mary coughlan to lose her seat.

christy m

mary coughlan in trouble. thomas pringle ( independent) ready to take her seat in dsw.

Mr.Micro

christy m wrote: »

mary coughlan in trouble. thomas pringle ( independent) ready to take her seat in dsw.

That is great DSW may vote for a person this time instead of a dozy thick sheep.

GSF

Is Thomas Pringle related to TV deflector man Pringle?

raymon

She will be no loss , very poor politician

Monty Burnz

Useless individual who basically went from college into government. No wonder we are screwed - she never worked a day in business in her life and they make her minister for enterprise??

Deepwell

Maybe there is a God....

telekon

This would be the greatest single thing to come out of this election. Sweary Mary was a complete disaster and made a mockery of the office of tainiste. I would love to know how many jobs she personally lost through her dealings with Dell and Ryanair...

RonMexico

This could only be topped by Willie O'Dea getting the boot.

telekon

RonMexico wrote: »

This could only be topped by Willie O'Dea getting the boot.

I disagree. Throwing Sweary out on her ear is the biggest prize in this election. At least Willie has got some redeeming traits about him...

RonMexico

telekon wrote: »

I disagree. Throwing Sweary out on her ear is the biggest prize in this election. At least Willie has got some redeeming traits about him...

I can't think of one. Please enlighten me.

telekon

RonMexico wrote: »

I can't think of one. Please enlighten me.

Erm...hard worker. Was less of a lickarse to Biffo. Thats it.

ghostdancer

based on what?

telekon

ghostdancer wrote: »

based on what?

Hard worker in regards to the parish pump stuff he does in Limerick.

Coughlan was at Biffo's side through thick and thin to the bitter end 2 weeks ago.

Willie has done his own thing for years, hence the lack of promotions...and he is far more capable than thicko Sweary, no matter how hard that is to believe.

NewHillel

Deepwell wrote: »

Maybe there is a God....

I'm (almost) tempted to pray to Lord Shiva to wreak death and destruction on the remaining remnants of a discredited FF Party. :eek:

Quackles

RonMexico wrote: »

I can't think of one. Please enlighten me.

FANTASTIC moustache. Oh sorry, you meant Willie...

NewHillel

telekon wrote: »

Willie has done his own thing for years,

Indeed he has.

telekon wrote: »

...and he is far more capable than thicko Sweary, no matter how hard that is to believe.

Not hard to believe, at all. So capable is he of looking after number one that his prowess is recognised well beyond our shores.

(Anyway, can't hang around Brian L is on TV.)

telekon

NewHillel wrote: »

Indeed he has.


Not hard to believe, at all. So capable is he of looking after number one that his prowess is recognised well beyond our shores.

(Anyway, can't hang around Brian L is on TV.)

WTF am I defending Willie O'Dea?!?

They're all useless.

QED.

NewHillel

telekon wrote: »

WTF am I defending Willie O'Dea?!?

Ah, fair play to you, a friend in need is a friend indeed.

ghostdancer

telekon wrote: »

Hard worker in regards to the parish pump stuff he does in Limerick.

Coughlan was at Biffo's side through thick and thin to the bitter end 2 weeks ago.

Willie has done his own thing for years, hence the lack of promotions...and he is far more capable than thicko Sweary, no matter how hard that is to believe.

i was asking what is the OP based on.

what is there to suggest Coughlan is in trouble/Pringle has a chance?

the groutch

christy m wrote: »

mary coughlan in trouble. thomas pringle ( independent) ready to take her seat in dsw.

clutching at straws, and more than coincidence that your only other post was trying to defame Pearse Doherty.

christy m

the groutch wrote: »

clutching at straws, and more than coincidence that your only other post was trying to defame Pearse Doherty.

only going by what i read in the local newspaper today. never proposed to be a sinn fein supporter.... quite the opposite. your name suits ya!

hairyprincess

ghostdancer wrote: »

i was asking what is the OP based on.

what is there to suggest Coughlan is in trouble/Pringle has a chance?

You voted in the boards poll, have you not looked at the results for DSW?
Just in case you aren't aware of how things stand presently,
http://www.boards.ie/vote/pr-calc.php?c_id=10

Aside from that, she is an absolute joke, an embarrassment to her constituents and the people who have voted her in. I have spoken to people who would have been FF'ers all their lives and are now turning because of her. Good riddance to her. She has done nothing for her people.

Ray Burkes Pension

hairyprincess wrote: »

You voted in the boards poll, have you not looked at the results for DSW?
Just in case you aren't aware of how things stand presently,
http://www.boards.ie/vote/pr-calc.php?c_id=10

Aside from that, she is an absolute joke, an embarrassment to her constituents and the people who have voted her in. I have spoken to people who would have been FF'ers all their lives and are now turning because of her. Good riddance to her. She has done nothing for her people.

The boards poll is an experiment and has a huge bias against FF.

If you look instead at PaddyPower Coughlan is 1/10on to be elected. Pringle is way out in 5th place at 7/2.

ghostdancer

hairyprincess wrote: »

You voted in the boards poll, have you not looked at the results for DSW?
Just in case you aren't aware of how things stand presently,
http://www.boards.ie/vote/pr-calc.php?c_id=10

Aside from that, she is an absolute joke, an embarrassment to her constituents and the people who have voted her in. I have spoken to people who would have been FF'ers all their lives and are now turning because of her. Good riddance to her. She has done nothing for her people.

no i hadn't looked at the results for DSW, as they were of little relevance to me as i'm not in that constituency.

that's nice that they stand like that. Dylan Haskins is by far the front-runner in Dublin South-East, but he has no chance whatsoever of coming 1st in the actual GE.
ie. the boards poll results are a load of nonsense with regards to the actual election, and don't reflect reality. to base any predictions on it is laughable.

as for the rest of your post, you don't seem to base the OP's prediction on anything whatsoever besides anecdotal evidence that some people you know don't like her.
no mention of Pringle whatsoever.

so essentially, there's little reason or proof that Coughlan is likely to lose her seat, let alone that Pringle will be the one to take it.

Slick50

ghostdancer wrote: »

ie. the boards poll results are a load of nonsense with regards to the actual election, and don't reflect reality. to base any predictions on it is laughable...

...so essentially, there's little reason or proof that Coughlan is likely to lose her seat, let alone that Pringle will be the one to take it.

This evenings 6:1 news covered the weekends sunday times poll in CNC, which concurs with the boards GE poll.
This evenings election coverage on radio1 was from maynooth/kildare north which also seems to be swaying to the boards poll predictions.
Paddypowers had fianna fail at 4/1 to get twenty or less seats up to sunday last, now 6/4.
I know it is somewhat biased, but how can you just dismiss a poll that samples fourteen thousand people. Most fianna fail candidates are shown to be well outside the running, even their big hitters. The poll would have to be wildly out for fianna fail to make any kind of decent showing in this election.

NewHillel

Slick50 wrote: »

This evenings 6:1 news covered the weekends sunday times poll in CNC, which concurs with the boards GE poll.
This evenings election coverage on radio1 was from maynooth/kildare north which also seems to be swaying to the boards poll predictions.
Paddypowers had fianna fail at 4/1 to get twenty or less seats up to sunday last, now 6/4.
I know it is somewhat biased, but how can you just dismiss a poll that samples fourteen thousand people. Most fianna fail candidates are shown to be well outside the running, even their big hitters. The poll would have to be wildly out for fianna fail to make any kind of decent showing in this election.

On that happy note I'm off to bed.

ggrr1970

Remember, the right-wing may have a reduced base but they are very adept at getting that base out to vote. We may all be complaining but if we don't vote then FF may do surprisingly well e.g. 20+
On another note, do we seriously want the abomination that is Sinn Fein/IRA to be a significant party?

Chucky the tree

Slick50 wrote: »

This evenings 6:1 news covered the weekends sunday times poll in CNC, which concurs with the boards GE poll.
This evenings election coverage on radio1 was from maynooth/kildare north which also seems to be swaying to the boards poll predictions.
Paddypowers had fianna fail at 4/1 to get twenty or less seats up to sunday last, now 6/4.
I know it is somewhat biased, but how can you just dismiss a poll that samples fourteen thousand people. Most fianna fail candidates are shown to be well outside the running, even their big hitters. The poll would have to be wildly out for fianna fail to make any kind of decent showing in this election.

Still the only evidence is the boards poll? Anyone who doesn't think the boards poll is miles off in some areas would want to put the crack pipe away for awhile.

Ray Burkes Pension

Slick50 wrote: »

This evenings 6:1 news covered the weekends sunday times poll in CNC, which concurs with the boards GE poll.
This evenings election coverage on radio1 was from maynooth/kildare north which also seems to be swaying to the boards poll predictions.
Paddypowers had fianna fail at 4/1 to get twenty or less seats up to sunday last, now 6/4.
I know it is somewhat biased, but how can you just dismiss a poll that samples fourteen thousand people. Most fianna fail candidates are shown to be well outside the running, even their big hitters. The poll would have to be wildly out for fianna fail to make any kind of decent showing in this election.

I think the boards poll will mirror urban constituencies like CNC but will be widely out in rural constituencies.

K-9

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Still the only evidence is the boards poll? Anyone who doesn't think the boards poll is miles off in some areas would want to put the crack pipe away for awhile.

Highland Radio » Local papers suggest FF is facing uphill battles in both Donegal constituencies

I think FF are in serious bother in Donegal NE, SF, FG and Labour all have decent candidates. 1 FF candidate might have worked if Blayney or Letterkenny based candidate had ran.

Meanwhile, today’s Donegal Democrat says internal polls by both Fianna Fail and Fine Gael suggest Fianna Fail may also be in trouble in Donegal South West, with Tanaiste Mary Coughlan in danger of losing her seat.
According to the paper, the internal polls suggest Deputies Pearse Doherty (SF) and Diny Mc Ginley (FG) will return to the Dail, with Ms Coughlan and her party colleague Senator Brian O’Domhnaill fighting for the third seat along with Independent Cllr Thomas Pringle, with Cllr Pringle potentially the best placed to benefit from transfers.

It really comes down to how well Pringle polls and what transfers he gets. Doherty should transfer to him if he tops the poll. O'Domhnaill did reasonably well in the bye election, will be interesting to see how much Coughlan takes of that.


O'Domhnaills transfers are more likely to go to Coughlan than Pringle because of party ties, though Doherty could do well too.


I'd say running 2 candidates should get FF 1 seat but it's an amazing turn around from 5/6 to 1/6 FF.

Side Show Bob

This Man Is happy, spoke to him yesterday,

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/minister-in-poll-storm-over-fword-465300.html

ednwireland

considering the donegal democrat is a known FF paper, my guess is the headline about mary in trouble is down to FF spin to get whats left of the party faithful out.

although this article
http://www.donegaldaily.com/2011/02/13/election-2011-coughlan-will-lose-seat-to-pringle-says-sunday-independent/

based on the sundy indo election guide seems to think she's no shoein (and i know no-one whos prepared to admit they will vote for her, the last time i talked to anyone it was for a charity cycle raising funds for a community centre she'd promised money

and whats with all the low post count people this election (dont remember it as bad last election, the party machines found boards have they )

Sponge Bob

In her 3 years as Deputy Prime Minister she could not even get the dangerous and grossly substandard National Road fixed between Mountcharles and the Frosses turn off. That scheme has been 10 years in planning and in various FF election manifestos.

If she could not get that much done at a time when the National road budget was over €1bn a year then what does anybody think she is likely to do when her fat arse merely warms a back bench and she has the whole day to fill out expenses forms.

She had her chance to represent Donegal and Ireland and there is nothing whatsoever to show for it.

ednwireland

Sponge Bob wrote: »

In her 3 years as Deputy Prime Minister she could not even get the dangerous and grossly substandard National Road fixed between Mountcharles and the Frosses turn off. That scheme has been 10 years in planning and in various FF election manifestos.

If she could not get that much done at a time when the National road budget was over €1bn a year then what does anybody think she is likely to do when her fat arse merely warms a back bench and she has the whole day to fill out expenses forms.

She had her chance to represent Donegal and Ireland and there is nothing whatsoever to show for it.

couldnt agree more.

Sponge Bob

It is slightly under two miles long but what a scary 2 miles, especially after coming off the good road east of there. Easily one of the worst road stretches in Ireland and located at the top of Mary Coughlans own boreen.

Let the next inevitable death on that stretch be her political epitaph

Burnt

Rumours abound locally that McCahill's fairly late entry into the race as an independent is to spoil/split the independent votes inparticular in relation to pringle and spare Mary her blushes. Rumour and speculation of course.

hairyprincess

ghostdancer wrote: »

no i hadn't looked at the results for DSW, as they were of little relevance to me as i'm not in that constituency.

that's nice that they stand like that. Dylan Haskins is by far the front-runner in Dublin South-East, but he has no chance whatsoever of coming 1st in the actual GE.
ie. the boards poll results are a load of nonsense with regards to the actual election, and don't reflect reality. to base any predictions on it is laughable.

as for the rest of your post, you don't seem to base the OP's prediction on anything whatsoever besides anecdotal evidence that some people you know don't like her.
no mention of Pringle whatsoever.

so essentially, there's little reason or proof that Coughlan is likely to lose her seat, let alone that Pringle will be the one to take it.

You aren't in this constituency so perhaps you aren't as familiar with her lack of work for this constituency as the people who live her are, only too well aware of.

There is every reason to presume she will lose her seat, in recent times we have lost Abbotts, Gallaghers Bakery, the fishing industry in Killybegs has practically been obliterated, the state of the Mountcharles road (which is on her own doorstep), the Lost at Sea scheme; she has done nothing to but blockages up in front of the family who are looking for justice.

To summerise, she is a disaster.

I like Pringle, and I would love to see him being given a chance, but FF's trick of planting an 'Independent' at the last minute will only serve to split the vote in the Killybegs/Ardara area, imo.

hairyprincess

Burnt wrote: »

Rumours abound locally that McCahill's fairly late entry into the race as an independent is to spoil/split the independent votes inparticular in relation to pringle and spare Mary her blushes. Rumour and speculation of course.

Couldn't agree more. McCahill is an FF'er to the backbone. Unfortunately, chances are Pringle will suffer

Slick50

Chucky the tree wrote: »

Still the only evidence is the boards poll? Anyone who doesn't think the boards poll is miles off in some areas would want to put the crack pipe away for awhile.

Yes, provided you ignore the two other examples cited in my post, which concur with the boards poll. Much less paddypowers rapidly changing odds.

Also recent polls indicate a complete wipe out of FF candidates in the dublin region, again agreeing with the boards poll.?

ednwireland

interesting bbc newsline article on mary coughlan here

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-12494617

K-9

People are expecting McCahill to poll well then? I hadn't really heard of him before, does he have any political background?

These conspiracies popped up at the bye election too.

sgb

Senator David Norris used to have a show on Newstalk on Sunday morning and he described Mary as "a fine lump of a women" enough said

Leslie91

Would be delira to see the back of her. Complete moron. Totally unqualified for the jobs she was handed. The poster girl for the incompetence that was Fianna Fail for the last 15 yrs. Good riddance.

bamboozle

Leslie91 wrote: »

Would be delira to see the back of her. Complete moron. Totally unqualified for the jobs she was handed. The poster girl for the incompetence that was Fianna Fail for the last 15 yrs. Good riddance.

if she lost her seat i'd nearly be as happy as i was to hear Ivor Callely had lost his seat last time out.

Incompetence personified is calamity coughlan.

jimmycrackcorm

sgb wrote: »

Senator David Norris used to have a show on Newstalk on Sunday morning and he described Mary as "a fine lump of a women" enough said

David Norris is hardly an expert on women though
Had he compared her to a Joycean character it might make sense but only to him and the members of the Trinity English Department.

wicorthered

If she was to lose her seat it would make my election. Possibly the dumbest politician out there, completely out of touch with any national issues.

ednwireland

wicorthered wrote: »

If she was to lose her seat it would make my election. Possibly the dumbest politician out there, completely out of touch with any national issues.

or local ones (how does she get elected ?)

Cronyism is rampant

ednwireland wrote: »

or local ones (how does she get elected ?)

I think having the FF badge and the Coughlan name was enough once upon a time.

Not anymore!

Permabear

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Chucky the tree

Slick50 wrote: »

Yes, provided you ignore the two other examples cited in my post, which concur with the boards poll. Much less paddypowers rapidly changing odds.

Also recent polls indicate a complete wipe out of FF candidates in the dublin region, again agreeing with the boards poll.?

You mean paddypowers 1/10 on Mary Coughlan being re-elected? That's some strong evidence that she'll lose her seat alright.

Mezcita

Chucky the tree wrote: »

You mean paddypowers 1/10 on Mary Coughlan being re-elected? That's some strong evidence that she'll lose her seat alright.

Exactly.

I think people need to take the boards.ie poll with a huge pinch of salt. Essentially it gives an indication of how younger voters will vote, as opposed to the rest of the population.

Brace yourselves for the substantial FF vote folks.....