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Anyone shouting "burn the bond holders" should read this.....

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    #182
    professore
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭professore


    Firefox11 wrote: »
    Say goodbye to your pension then and maybe your savings too.

    WAKE UP !!!! This is going to happen anyway. So should it happen before we put billions of our own money into the banks or after ????


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    #183
    Happy W
    Registered Users Posts: 6 ✭Happy W


    SamSamSammy wrote: »
    I'm sure you then have enough money to pay taxes comfortably. Like Sinn Fein says, those you can pay should pay....isn't that the idea :pac:
    Why are you sure?


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    #184
    SamSamSammy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 171 ✭✭SamSamSammy


    Happy W wrote: »
    Why are you sure?

    Because, "I didn't borrow or overspend/ live beyond my means during the Celtic Overdraft period"

    Therefore, with the way wages were, and the savings you would make not living beyond your means, you should have loads of money in the bank.

    Unless, of course, you spent it on stupid things you didn't need ;)


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    #185
    whoopdedoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 503 ✭✭✭whoopdedoo


    I love it, buried in the middle of the piece is ; (The data he drew on does not distinguish between senior and subordinated debt and he has no information on whether Irish banks hold each other’s bonds.)

    burn the ****ers and let them be glad it's not on stakes we're doing it!!


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    #186
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    sollar wrote: »
    How are you getting on guys with all that debt..... its great here in Marbella

    seanie-fitzpatrick.jpg

    Now now. Those are his wifes golf clubs.


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    #187
    swarm.of.bees
    Registered Users Posts: 56 ✭✭swarm.of.bees


    Nodin wrote: »
    Now now. Those are his wifes golf clubs.

    I'm sure they would still fit up his fúckin arse


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    #188
    Kasabian
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,689 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    investment wrote: »
    I've worked with goodbody and davy stockbrokers.I can tell you now, that if you burn the bond- holders you will destroy this country.

    Ah! another financial guru!!


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    #189
    stimpson
    Registered Users Posts: 7,815 ✭✭✭stimpson


    Yeah. He's a financial genius

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=69577236#post69577236


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    #190
    FreudianSlippers
    Registered Users Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Firefox11 wrote: »
    At the end of day all i want know is what will happen to my pension and my savings. Are people willing to "burn" these too!!:mad: They can feck right off!!
    Essentially, yes. Anyone saying burn at the moment has no clear idea (as nobody does) if their personal deposits are invested in these bonds -
    they probably are


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    #191
    investment
    Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭investment


    stimpson wrote: »
    Yeah. He's a financial genius

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=69577236#post69577236


    We all have to start somewhere, and I'm working my way to the top


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    #192
    stimpson
    Registered Users Posts: 7,815 ✭✭✭stimpson


    investment wrote: »
    We all have to start somewhere, and I'm working my way to the top

    So you've worked in the top Irish stockbrokers yet have to ask how to buy bonds on boards.ie?

    Excuse me if I don't heed your well thought out economic analysis.


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    #193
    investment
    Registered Users Posts: 573 ✭✭✭investment


    I'm not a stock broker, I quoted I've worked with these guys.
    I know guys who failed there leaving certs,and they were some of the best investors this country has ever seen.

    One of them made a 100,000 euro's in 1 day of trading.


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    #194
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Good thread on the issue here:

    The Danes lead by example - boards.ie

    Other banks will suffer, probably leading to a banking collapse here and the taxpayer left with an even bigger bill that we are all moaning about now.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #195
    Pdfile
    Registered Users Posts: 2,115 ✭✭✭Pdfile


    Rawhead wrote: »

    They gambled, they lost, they fu*king pay.


    thats how banks work, or all gambling works... but when your cleared out you need to start again...

    better that, you start a country with no banks... so how long it'll last...
    :rolleyes:


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    #196
    tails_naf
    Registered Users Posts: 861 ✭✭✭tails_naf


    Rawhead wrote: »
    I don't care if we burn Dermot Desmond or Roman Abromavich, they are both obscenely, disgustingly, astronomically wealthy individuals.

    I'm no socialist but let these swines burn and burn badly.


    Yep - These guys are are die hard capitalists when it comes to their profits - but they want to socialize their debts!


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    #197
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Pdfile wrote: »
    thats how banks work, or all gambling works... but when your cleared out you need to start again...

    better that, you start a country with no banks... so how long it'll last...
    :rolleyes:

    Thats just more ridiculous scaremongering straight from the FF/FG election pamphlet. The sovereign debts of our nation have to be separated and prioritized over those private debts we should not be liable for. Every economist has said so.

    If you want to put your faith in the same corrupt politicians who caused this mess and bailed their mates in Anglo during a recession, that's for you. You pay the debts, not me.


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    #198
    squod
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,704 ✭✭✭squod


    Mr Mc Williams said economics is far too important "to be left to the establishment who have destroyed the place; it affects everyone, it is our economy, not theirs. It is our money; not theirs and it is our future not just theirs"

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/elections/latest-news/mcwilliams-site-offers-economics-for-masses-2546322.html

    More common sense from the people of newvision.ie


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    #199
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    squod wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/elections/latest-news/mcwilliams-site-offers-economics-for-masses-2546322.html

    More common sense from the people of newvision.ie

    Just out of curiosity, have these guys got any policies other than sweeping general statements about fixing the economy?

    Anything about governmental reform, civil partnership, energy/infrastructure and the myriad other issues we're facing? I'm genuinely curious because their website doesn't seem to have any kind of manifesto :confused:


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    #200
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    mickydoomsux wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity, have these guys got any policies other than sweeping general statements about fixing the economy?

    Anything about governmental reform, civil partnership, energy/infrastructure and the myriad other issues we're facing? I'm genuinely curious because their website doesn't seem to have any kind of manifesto :confused:

    They basically are a group of Independents with 4 basic policies. The rest are up to the individual AFAIK.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #201
    etcetc
    Registered Users Posts: 392 ✭✭etcetc


    http://www.politicalworld.org/archive/index.php/t-1263.html

    government disinformation


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