The Late late Show Friday 11th February 2011AD

SEPT 23 1989

JP Liz V1

Can they do it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2Ww67c6m8o

Poly

Oh Jaysis, the horror continues. Just when you thought the LLS couldn't get any worse, fcuking Jedward.

What sort of stranglehold does that septic midget Louis Walsh have over RTE???

Sorry folks, even with the support of the thread, I don't think I can submit myself for Tubuse tonight.

Dennis the Stone

Skid

Latest Paddy Power odds:

Jedward 8/13 Favourites
Nikki Kavanagh 11/4
Bling 5/1
Don Mescall 6/1
Vard Sisters 8/1

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/music/eurovision-song-contest?ev_oc_grp_ids=303417


I think Jedward will lose.

The public vote is only worth 1/3, the jury vote is worth 2/3

More often than not, the Irish jurys all vote for the same song - if this happens Jedwards likely public vote win wouldn't be enough.

Jedward will only win if the other songs effectively cancel each other out.

I'd say Nikki Kavanagh is good value at 11/4, but a lot depends on tonight's performances.

seamus

I've gotta say it, like them or hate them, Jedward and their song are pure euro-pop. Watching the Eurovision, you can see that Europeans love their outrageous, energetic bands with happy-pop songs. Here in Ireland, UK and US we have a tendency to favour passionate songs sung by sexy singers.

The Europeans like that too but they have a special place in their hearts for silly stuff.

Maybe it's a generational thing. We all grew up with blue peter and zig and zag - silly but in a humourous and playful way. Teenagers of today grew up with out-and-out silliness like the tellytubbies and Hi-5.

Looking and listening to the other line-ups, it's the same old ballady crap that we've been sending over and losing with for the last 15 years. I think if we send Jedward, we stand a good chance of winning overall. Any of the rest and we might as well not bother. The Brits will like whatever we put through, but that's about it.

lempsipmax

Poly wrote: »

What sort of stranglehold does that septic midget Louis Walsh have over RTE???

He probably knows the secretly gay people in RTE.

JonathanAnon

I was thinking the same Skid.. seems like the voting has been orchestrated to make sure that JEdward wont get through.. for the sheer drama of it (i.e. missed notes, their own brand of madness and unpredictability), I would like to see JEdward do it though..

BUT I think they certainly WILL miss notes tonight on the live performance.. (There seems to be a tricky little falsetto bit at the end of each line of the verse, which I can certainly envisage them messing up)... And I think there WILL be a certain element of snobbery against them with the judges. so I would think it will be difficult for them to get through. I think the judges will go with somebody of a better "pedigree"..

And Poly, dont let it get you down, just get more beer to ease the pain..

Skid

JonathanAnon wrote: »

I was thinking the same Skid.. seems like the voting has been orchestrated to make sure that JEdward wont get through.. for the sheer drama of it (i.e. missed notes, their own brand of madness and unpredictability), I would like to see JEdward do it though..

I agree, just for the divilment It would be funny to see the Jeds get through.

God knows, you take the laughter where you can get it now.

PS I look forward to your 'as a musician' comments on the arrangements and missed notes tonight.

Diddler1977

seamus wrote: »

I've gotta say it, like them or hate them, Jedward and their song are pure euro-pop. Watching the Eurovision, you can see that Europeans love their outrageous, energetic bands with happy-pop songs. Here in Ireland, UK and US we have a tendency to favour passionate songs sung by sexy singers.

The Europeans like that too but they have a special place in their hearts for silly stuff.

Maybe it's a generational thing. We all grew up with blue peter and zig and zag - silly but in a humourous and playful way. Teenagers of today grew up with out-and-out silliness like the tellytubbies and Hi-5.

Looking and listening to the other line-ups, it's the same old ballady crap that we've been sending over and losing with for the last 15 years. I think if we send Jedward, we stand a good chance of winning overall. Any of the rest and we might as well not bother. The Brits will like whatever we put through, but that's about it.

I thought we as Irish people are Europeans?

baldbear

After listening to the songs yesterday i backed Nikki Kavanagh at 3/1. I know Mairead Farrell is on the judging panel, anyone know who else is??

I'd say all the teenys will use alot of credit voting for the twins.

seamus

Diddler1977 wrote: »

I thought we as Irish people are Europeans?

Mainland Europeans. Common parlance in Ireland and the UK is to refer to anyone on the main landmass as "European". Irish and Brits are just that. It's a psychological thing. Because we're not part of mainland Europe we have a tendency to forget that we're one of them.

Skid

baldbear wrote: »

I know Mairead Farrell is on the judging panel, anyone know who else is??

6 regional juries have a vote ...

http://escdaily.com/articles/10743

the regional juries will have a 67% vote and the public a 33% vote. The regional juries will remain the same as last years which are in alphabetical order Cork, Dublin, Dundalk, Galway, Limerick and Sligo.

telekon

baldbear wrote: »

After listening to the songs yesterday i backed Nikki Kavanagh at 3/1. I know Mairead Farrell is on the judging panel, anyone know who else is??

I'd say all the teenys will use alot of credit voting for the twins.

Ah ffs....

You might as well throw in some other knowledgable heavyweights like Amanda Brunker, Shirley Templebar, Richie Kavanagh etc. :rolleyes:

JonathanAnon

SkidMark wrote: »

PS I look forward to your 'as a musician' comments on the arrangements and missed notes tonight.

haha.. ye I'll tell you when JEward change key

I know Mairead Farrell is on the judging panel

ah you cant be serious.. ? I think the All Ireland Talent Show is insulting having that Brunker yoke being a judge/mentor, but I thought that they would get Logan, Dana and the usual Euro heads to judge the song for us..

The Eurovision is more of a joke than ever now to be honest.. Mooney couldnt even pronounce the names of the writers of Nikki's song, and they are representing Ireland?? Donna McCall is singing for Malta this year.. All these songwriters enter multiple songs for different countries every year.. It should be Irish writer, Irish band, Irish singer.. otherwise what's the bloody point?

telekon

telekon wrote: »

Ah ffs....

You might as well throw in some other knowledgable heavyweights like Amanda Brunker, Shirley Templebar, Richie Kavanagh etc. :rolleyes:

JonathanAnon wrote: »

ah you cant be serious.. ? I think the All Ireland Talent Show is insulting having that Brunker yoke being a judge/mentor, but I thought that they would get Logan, Dana and the usual Euro heads to judge the song for us..

There's a term for a post like that...'thievery'!

Skid

baldbear wrote: »

I know Mairead Farrell is on the judging panel, anyone know who else is??

Is she definitely on a judging panel? The people who call out the results of each jury are not actually on the panel.

If the judges are not musicians or songwriters of some kind it's a joke.

JonathanAnon

telekon wrote: »

There's a term for a post like that...'thievery'!

where's me drill

Jesus Wept

SkidMark wrote: »

Latest Paddy Power odds:

Jedward 8/13 Favourites
Nikki Kavanagh 11/4
Bling 5/1
Don Mescall 6/1
Vard Sisters 8/1

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/music/eurovision-song-contest?ev_oc_grp_ids=303417


I think Jedward will lose.

The public vote is only worth 1/3, the jury vote is worth 2/3

More often than not, the Irish jurys all vote for the same song - if this happens Jedwards likely public vote win wouldn't be enough.

Jedward will only win if the other songs effectively cancel each other out.

I'd say Nikki Kavanagh is good value at 11/4, but a lot depends on tonight's performances.

Regardless of whether you like or loathe Jedward, I think it is beyond pathetic that RTE changed the weighting of the Jury vote from 33% to 66%, utterly pathetic.

They claim to have changed it because Jedward's song was mistakenly temporarily released early. They obviously just want to give the arseholes on the panel the choice of who represents Ireland in the Eurovision rather than the public, which is ridiculous.
Who is on the panel anyhow?
Will it be the usual bunch of cock-knockery insiders who like desperate songs from cheesy tools?
Is Dana on it?

Skid

While you are waiting for tonight, here's a look at how RTE used to do these things

Warning: contains brief appearances from Twink and Shay Healy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH1YW0ayIlg

Colmo52

Bucks Fizz will be on the show.

@RTELateLateShow Just so you know its actullay the ORIGINAL Bucks Fizz appearing on the #latelate tomorrow night.... so keep your skirts on!! #eurosong

casio4

will he be on ?

Colmo52

casio4 wrote: »

will he be on ?

I doubt it. he had a row with the late late people last year.

mikom

Dennis the Stone wrote: »

^
^
^

*Licks lips*

*Slides shotgun muzzle between them*

*Places big toe on to trigger*

*Drives foot towards floor*

*A bright flash, then sweet release*

JonathanAnon

Colmo52 wrote: »

Bucks Fizz will be on the show.

I'm not sure what having Bucks Fizz on will do for the pace of the show.. It might speed it up and then it might slow it down..

I'll get me coat..

casio4

then maybe you could start making your mind up

1966

The-Rigger wrote: »

Who is on the panel anyhow?
Will it be the usual bunch of cock-knockery insiders who like desperate songs from cheesy tools?
Is Dana on it?

Possibly - heard they held the usual water cooler meeting in RTE today and have decided to enlist judges who actually have a musical/entertainment background and are using the musical brains / talented judges from the All Ireland Talent Show ??

baldbear

SkidMark wrote: »

Is she definitely on a judging panel? The people who call out the results of each jury are not actually on the panel.

If the judges are not musicians or songwriters of some kind it's a joke.

I could be wrong maybe she just talks about the song and isn't judging but she's involved somehow. I hope she wears a tight top, shes got great hangers!:p

calex71

Get out the pair of ye, thats just awful

andrew cross

mikom wrote: »

^
^
^

*Licks lips*

*Slides shotgun muzzle between them*

*Places big toe on to trigger*

*Drives foot towards floor*

*A bright flash, then sweet release*

no no turns shotgun around gets the three of them with both barrells

Lapin

SkidMark wrote: »

While you are waiting for tonight, here's a look at how RTE used to do these things

Warning: contains brief appearances from Twink and Shay Healy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UH1YW0ayIlg

Thanks for that.

I'm allergic to Twink so I avoided the clip.

jimmynokia

tubward show tonight LOL

Pretty_Pistol

I hope Dana isn't on tonight. Last year she was useless and wouldn't give her opinion on the acts because she thought it may "sway the voting".

ohthebaby

Who remembers this time last year when we were all getting ready to jet off to Oslo bright and early in the morning with Johnny Logan? Remember we all headed to the airport to meet him? He was heading off to Oslo the morning after the contest. And he reminded us. Repeatedly.

casio4

ohthebaby wrote: »

Who remembers this time last year when we were all getting ready to jet off to Oslo bright and early in the morning with Johnny Logan? Remember we all headed to the airport to meet him? He was heading off to Oslo the morning after the contest. And he reminded us. Repeatedly.

ah i remember it well

Toto Wolfcastle

Looking forward to seeing Jedward's performance. I hope they go through. It's all just a bit of fun really, isn't it? (Unless your name is Dana or Johnny Logan. Then it's a life or death situation. Or so it seems.)

Morag

I can actually enjoy that pic



I just imagine it's a land mine going off which has them flung into the air and soon they will all be a pile of bleeding body parts.....

Koloman

casio4 wrote: »

then maybe you could start making your mind up

I always knew Tubs was in the Land Of Make Believe.

Diddler1977

ohthebaby wrote: »

Who remembers this time last year when we were all getting ready to jet off to Oslo bright and early in the morning with Johnny Logan? Remember we all headed to the airport to meet him? He was heading off to Oslo the morning after the contest. And he reminded us. Repeatedly.

That was a great trip to Oslo. Who was it who made the gorgeous sangwiches?

ArtSmart

Ok, i want a clean fight tonight - remember these are essentially children.

unfortunately there em, something (anything) else on, so i'll prob miss the first hour or two, or three.

course, i'll be there for the voting results...

fred funk }{

ArtSmart wrote: »

Ok, i want a clean fight tonight - remember these are essentially children.

unfortunately there em, something (anything) else on, so i'll prob miss the first hour or two, or three.

course, i'll be there for the voting results...

Sorry, gloves are off tonight. I'm in the mood for some piss rippin'.

Poly

Is there anything else on the show tonight or is it all Eurosh1te?

"Braveheart" starting on C4, might watch Mel Gibson baitin the fcuk out of the sananach and ladyboys getting thrown out of Trim castle

Morag

Kids my arse the are 19 and will be 20 this year.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jedward

Toto Wolfcastle

Sharrow wrote: »

Kids my arse the are 19 and will be 20 this year.

Ah but with their blonde hair and their chubby little cheeks they're practically babies.

casio4

Diddler1977 wrote: »

That was a great trip to Oslo. Who was it who made the gorgeous sangwiches?

I made some egg and onion sangwiches and they went down a treat:D
pity we are not going again I could make some tayto crisp sambos

Skid

I'm conflicted on the Jedward issue.

Edward has a lovely voice, he would be a revelation if we went solo.

John is rubbish though, no talent whatsoever.

Greentopia

ohthebaby wrote: »

Who remembers this time last year when we were all getting ready to jet off to Oslo bright and early in the morning with Johnny Logan? Remember we all headed to the airport to meet him? He was heading off to Oslo the morning after the contest. And he reminded us. Repeatedly.

Ah sweet memories....'memreeees, misty water coloured memreees, from the corner of my eye wipe...'
wipes tear from eye

Greentopia

SkidMark wrote: »

I'm conflicted on the Jedward issue.

I have no such conflict I'm happy to say. I dislike them both equally.

Mr.Crinklewood

Anyone got Paul Stokes's phone number and Jedwards's schedule?

ohthebaby

Diddler1977 wrote: »

That was a great trip to Oslo. Who was it who made the gorgeous sangwiches?

I made them. Good times. Oslo's a beautiful city and Johnny's a beautiful man.

I'm so looking forward to this tonight.

casio4

Greentopia wrote: »

I have no such conflict I'm happy to say. I dislike them both equally.

I don't know which one is which and i'm proud to say that
but I secretly like them