Mike Cubbard

einshteen

Was shocked to see Mike Cubbard getting far more first preferences on the boards.ie/vote. The guy misspells independent on his own website for gods sake! (which is a masterpiece in itself).

Meanwhile other independents like Eamon Walsh (someone very active in health reform even outside of politics) got just over half of Cubbard's first prefs.

WTF boardsies?

baldshin

WTF for criticising spelling with regards to an election candidate! He might not even be the one who did the website, or the wrongly spelled word.

Also, I'd much prefer a politician who does a good job and spells an odd word wrong than one who screws the people over while getting 100% in his/her spelling test.

Don't think I voted or will vote for him though :P

einshteen

baldshin wrote: »

WTF for criticising spelling with regards to an election candidate! He might not even be the one who did the website, or the wrongly spelled word.

Also, I'd much prefer a politician who does a good job and spells an odd word wrong than one who screws the people over while getting 100% in his/her spelling test.

Don't think I voted or will vote for him though :P

Maybe it's pedantic, but have a read through the website and you'll come to the same conclusions as me! His credentials seem to be that he watches Prime Time and Frontline.

brianthebard

Bit harsh, he's trying his best, running as an independent candidate is hard. Considering the amount of independents running in this election he could be in an important coalition deciding position afterwards. I do think he needs more information on his policies section or more detailed information, but still you could do worse, one of the candidates in sligo/north leitrim is a convicted fraudster who ripped off the dept of agriculture.

Elohim

brianthebard wrote: »

Bit harsh, he's trying his best, running as an independent candidate is hard. Considering the amount of independents running in this election he could be in an important coalition deciding position afterwards. I do think he needs more information on his policies section or more detailed information, but still you could do worse, one of the candidates in sligo/north leitrim is a convicted fraudster who ripped off the dept of agriculture.

Fair play to him for running alright but the OP has legitimate points.

Spelling is very important, it's why you can't have any mistakes in a CV for example, it just comes across that you don't really care that much. There are a bunch of mistakes on that website and it doesn't come across well.

I certainly haven't much idea of what it takes to be a politician and what experience is necessary but it seems like he'll be jumping in the deep end. I'd say it'll be tough for him.

biko

In fairness that's one of the most common misspellings in English.
Also you may have seen Mike posting in this forum? He can answer you about the site (which could need some work, it's a bit tacky but not a bad go for someone untrained).


And no, I'm not voting for him but that's because I prefer another person/party.

dolphin city

einshteen wrote: »

Was shocked to see Mike Cubbard getting far more first preferences on the boards.ie/vote. The guy misspells independent on his own website for gods sake! (which is a masterpiece in itself).

Meanwhile other independents like Eamon Walsh (someone very active in health reform even outside of politics) got just over half of Cubbard's first prefs.

WTF boardsies?

Id much prefer someone to be elected that is not great at spelling, rather than a gobsheen that does not know how to add, which got us into this mess in the first place.

so what if there is a word mis-spelt.

seriouslysweet

I liked him until he starting spouting rubbist facts about Irish and translation figures. I'm still undecided on my first vote but that changed my mind.

TristanPeter

einshteen wrote: »

Was shocked to see Mike Cubbard getting far more first preferences on the boards.ie/vote. The guy misspells independent on his own website for gods sake! (which is a masterpiece in itself).

I think you forgot the apostrophe in gods OP

One of Cubbard's campaign assistants called to my house the other night. He said that Cubbard only missed being elected by a few votes the last time round. He's still trying so at least he's not a flash in the pan. I'll take a good look at his policies now seeing as the spotlight has been put on him here.

Columc

dolphin city wrote: »

Id much prefer someone to be elected that is not great at spelling, rather than a gobsheen that does not know how to add, which got us into this mess in the first place.

so what if there is a word mis-spelt.

Its down to care, If he is lazy during his campaigning then what gives me the proof that he isnt lazy when he gets elected? He is going up for politics, he has the public eye on him, he should know this and show he cares by making sure everything he gives to the public is correct.

From looking at his 6 issues, which are just the normal touching point on any person going up for election, he dosent give any details on how is he going to combat it, 4 of them are to do with money, and budgets. Everyone knows the issues at hand, we dont want to be reminded that they are there, what we want is a plan that gets us out of it. I cant see this from mike.

For a new young Independent, their website next to actualy geting out there canvasing is their main point of media for the public. This should look like a professional job and not getting one of his mates from the pub whip it together.

Robbo

TristanPeter wrote: »

I think you forgot the apostrophe in gods OP

One of Cubbard's campaign assistants called to my house the other night. He said that Cubbard only missed being elected by a few votes the last time round. He's still trying so at least he's not a flash in the pan. I'll take a good look at his policies now seeing as the spotlight has been put on him here.

More like a couple of hundred rather than a few but not a bad performance at all for an Independent.

death1234567

God that website is an assualt on the eyes. He could have paid some I.T. student €50 to make him one 100 times better.

Storm 10

I wonder what County is he from :D:D

Deffo a terrible website you cant whats on it with the red background and black lettering.

Aiel

Fair play to Mike.He's just like the rest of us,fed up and angry with the way the country has gone.The difference between him and us is that he's trying to do something about it.There's way too many apathetic people in Ireland who are just happy to complain yet not actually do something about it.I remember him saying that he was running in the local election's last time out due to sheer frustration with the local city council.The City Council are pathetic with their petty squabble's and self interest agenda's.I've thought of going for it myself but didnt,but Mike has gone several steps further then me and many other's too,fair play to him.

celty

TristanPeter wrote: »

I think you forgot the apostrophe in gods OP

One of Cubbard's campaign assistants called to my house the other night. He said that Cubbard only missed being elected by a few votes the last time round. He's still trying so at least he's not a flash in the pan. I'll take a good look at his policies now seeing as the spotlight has been put on him here.

What that guy meant is that he was only a few votes off being elected for the CITY COUNCIL. He would need far more to get elected to the DAIL and really hasn't a hope. Eamon Walsh and Catherine Connolly are two Independents with far higher profiles, Eamon is well-known as a health campaigner for years and Catherine should have been on the Labour ticket but fell out with them a few years ago.

As for Grealish, he has offered to fix a road. Been in the Dail for three and a half years now and spoke a total of three times. Just the kind of TD we really, really need, an ex PD who specialises in local 'clinics' and looking after his own back yard.

Noel Grealish was first elected in 2002

kraggy

celty wrote: »

What that guy meant is that he was only a few votes off being elected for the CITY COUNCIL. He would need far more to get elected to the DAIL and really hasn't a hope. Eamon Walsh and Catherine Connolly are two Independents with far higher profiles, Eamon is well-known as a health campaigner for years and Catherine should have been on the Labour ticket but fell out with them a few years ago.

As for Grealish, he has offered to fix a road. Been in the Dail for three and a half years now and spoke a total of three times. Just the kind of TD we really, really need, an ex PD who specialises in local 'clinics' and looking after his own back yard.

Yes, the amount of times he has spoken in the Dail is a disgrace. Don't know of a single constructive thing he has done for the country.

mikom

My biggest fear about Mike Cubbard is that he will get elected, then Bertie tries to live inside him.
I could do without Bertie getting in again.

kraggy

Also found this online http://thestory.ie/2010/06/02/td-expenses-2005-to-2008/


Noel Grealish cost the taxpayer 617,909.58 between 2005 and 2008. I've never heard of him doing anything to justify this sort of money.

dolphin city

Columc wrote: »

Its down to care, If he is lazy during his campaigning then what gives me the proof that he isnt lazy when he gets elected? He is going up for politics, he has the public eye on him, he should know this and show he cares by making sure everything he gives to the public is correct.

From looking at his 6 issues, which are just the normal touching point on any person going up for election, he dosent give any details on how is he going to combat it, 4 of them are to do with money, and budgets. Everyone knows the issues at hand, we dont want to be reminded that they are there, what we want is a plan that gets us out of it. I cant see this from mike.

For a new young Independent, their website next to actualy geting out there canvasing is their main point of media for the public. This should look like a professional job and not getting one of his mates from the pub whip it together.

so going by your own philosophy there in paragraph one, you must be as lazy as sin yourself.

jimmybeige

Mike Cubbard's website definitely wouldn't fill you with confidence. I'm sure he's a decent bloke, but surely you want more than that for your politicians. It's not just typos. You'd expect a potential politician to have an excellent command of the language both written and spoken as that should be a minimum requirement for any competent politician. And if he didn't write the content you'd expect a candidate to have enough attention to detail to have someone proof read his online presence as it's an important information tool for anyone voting.

Best of luck to him, but I wouldn't want him representing me!

Amhran Nua

jimmybeige wrote: »

I'm sure he's a decent bloke

Why? A lot of people seem to be looking at the patchwork of poorly thought out policies and personal information, and filling in the blanks with sympathy by themselves.

As far as I can see he wants the power but has no clear idea what to do if he gets it. From where I'm standing that looks like another half-million hanger on. No offence intended to Mr Cubbard, but he hasn't supplied any evidence to the contrary - it may be a harsh analysis, but these are harsh times.

jimmybeige

Amhran Nua wrote: »

Why? A lot of people seem to be looking at the patchwork of poorly thought out policies and personal information, and filling in the blanks with sympathy by themselves.

As far as I can see he wants the power but has no clear idea what to do if he gets it. From where I'm standing that looks like another half-million hanger on. No offence intended to Mr Cubbard, but he hasn't supplied any evidence to the contrary - it may be a harsh analysis, but these are harsh times.

You're right, I don't know he is a decent bloke. I just didn't want to be too cruel about it. In all honesty it's an awful website. The language is bad but the quality of the content is worse. His policies sound more like the headlines in a tabloid. How is any independent really going to stop bailouts and he has not listed any solution to the problem. Or his job creation policies? Or how is he going to reform the health system. Just more jobs are needed etc etc the whole things sounds like pub talk. Heard it all before, everyone is complaining about it, but we need more than people stating facts. Could do with some decent suggestions and solutions and Mike has definitely fallen well short here in many ways. Oh well, I doubt he'll be getting in.

brianthebard

jimmybeige wrote: »

Mike Cubbard's website definitely wouldn't fill you with confidence. I'm sure he's a decent bloke, but surely you want more than that for your politicians. It's not just typos. You'd expect a potential politician to have an excellent command of the language both written and spoken as that should be a minimum requirement for any competent politician. And if he didn't write the content you'd expect a candidate to have enough attention to detail to have someone proof read his online presence as it's an important information tool for anyone voting.

Best of luck to him, but I wouldn't want him representing me!

Where do people get this idea from? I can't think of any politician off hand who matches up to this description, but I see people demanding it as a minimum qualification all the time. Who does it refer to? Is it just an idealised politician or do people actually think its realistic?

Ficheall

If a politician's only faults were poor spelling and inability to design an aesthetically pleasing website, I'd be more than happy with them.

jimmybeige

I expect that a potential TD wouldn't write things like "re-negotiated" and spell "our" as "or". That is primary school stuff. And at the very least I expect someone to proof-read their content if it's their personal web profile. It's just lazy and unprofessional otherwise. But more importantly as I pointed out he has absolutely no solutions or policies mentioned. That is his main problem.

jwcurtin

kraggy wrote: »

Also found this online http://thestory.ie/2010/06/02/td-expenses-2005-to-2008/


Noel Grealish cost the taxpayer 617,909.58 between 2005 and 2008. I've never heard of him doing anything to justify this sort of money.

Getting Colaiste Na Coiribe on track?

dolphin city

jimmybeige wrote: »

Mike Cubbard's website definitely wouldn't fill you with confidence. I'm sure he's a decent bloke, but surely you want more than that for your politicians. It's not just typos. You'd expect a potential politician to have an excellent command of the language both written and spoken as that should be a minimum requirement for any competent politician. And if he didn't write the content you'd expect a candidate to have enough attention to detail to have someone proof read his online presence as it's an important information tool for anyone voting.

Best of luck to him, but I wouldn't want him representing me!

what I want from a policitan is a bit of guts and a bit of fight - I couldn't care less if he won spelling bee's at school. As far as excellent command of the english language - have you forgotten about big head ahearn? who about brian clowen - the biggest mumbler in history, everything said under his breath. So please, get a grip. Spellings is not an issue.

by the way I am not a mike cubbard supporter - although I have nothing against him.

Ficheall

Solutions and policies? Come on - I'm fairly sure there's a "solutions and policies" generator somewhere online that all politicians copy and paste from for their pre-election promise package. It's all BS anyway. What useful "solutions" or "policies" has anyone implemented recently?

jwcurtin wrote: »

Getting Colaiste Na Coiribe on track?

Oh are they still talking that nonsense? They were moving to a new place back when I studied there - about 10 years ago now, I think...

edit: actually - when I started going there. About 13 years ago.

WesternNight

Ficheall wrote: »

Oh are they still talking that nonsense? They were moving to a new place back when I studied there - about 10 years ago now, I think...

edit: actually - when I started going there. About 13 years ago.

You went there too? I started around the same time..

By the time I left it was getting quite crowded, I can only imagine how bad it is now.

jwcurtin

Ficheall wrote: »

Solutions and policies? Come on - I'm fairly sure there's a "solutions and policies" generator somewhere online that all politicians copy and paste from for their pre-election promise package. It's all BS anyway. What useful "solutions" or "policies" has anyone implemented recently?



Oh are they still talking that nonsense? They were moving to a new place back when I studied there - about 10 years ago now, I think...

edit: actually - when I started going there. About 13 years ago.

I know it's a joke, but plan is now up there on the left of Sally's Office! Progress eh?

brianthebard

jimmybeige wrote: »

I expect that a potential TD wouldn't write things like "re-negotiated" and spell "our" as "or". That is primary school stuff. And [incorrect beginning to a sentence] at the very least I expect someone to proof-read [proofread] their content if it's their personal web profile. It's just lazy and unprofessional otherwise. But more importantly as I pointed out he has absolutely no solutions or policies mentioned. That is his main problem.

fyp

Like it or not, for a lot of people a person's website represents who they are and what they represent themselves. So I wouldn't have much faith in someone who doesn't ensure that 1) this website looks good and 2) it's all spelled correctly.

einshteen

Right, my apologies for focusing on his spelling mistakes. Should have began with his complete lack of ideas and policies.

PomBear

This is why he's doing well on the polls

Krieg

* patiently awaits Mike Cubbards contribution to the thread*

Ficheall

Whereas Walsh is sending "friend requests" to all the Galwegians he can find on Facebook...

jimmybeige

brianthebard wrote: »

fyp

Hardly a comparison between me posting on a internet forum and the permanent content on the website of a political candidate. I am not standing in an election. If I were, I would spellcheck my content as it reflects poorly on my work ethic and attention to detail. Proof-read can have both spellings if you're going to make corrections!

Either way, it's the content and lack of ideas on the site that reflects worst on him. Probably as good as many of the others, but I probably wouldn't vote for them either.

PomBear

Ficheall wrote: »

Whereas Walsh is sending "friend requests" to all the Galwegians he can find on Facebook...

Guessing you mean Brian Walsh?

Himself and Derek Nolan added me

Lapin

Aiel wrote: »

Fair play to Mike. He's just like the rest of us, fed up and angry with the way the country has gone. The difference between him and us is that he's trying to do something about it.

Well put.

Amhran Nua

Lapin wrote: »

Well put.

If he was trying to do something about it he'd have some sort of plan other than "get elected and sure we'll take it from there".

I don't know about anyone else here, but I don't feel like having my tax euros going to support yet another have-a-go man taking a punt.

PomBear

To be fair, i'd prefer Mike Cubbard anyday before anyone out of Fianna Fail, Fine Gael, Noel Grelish, Thomas Welby or Niall Broccoli.

Amhran Nua

PomBear wrote: »

To be fair, i'd prefer Mike Cubbard anyday before anyone out of Fianna Fail, Fine Gael, Noel Grelish, Thomas Welby or Niall Broccoli.

Yeah, its fair to give the nod to a chancer who as far as I can see is looking more at a TD salary than at anything else. Seriously, this thread is full of sentiments like "at least he's doing something". He isn't.

Mike Cubbard, come on down, I think you're only in it for the money.

brianthebard

Weren't Amhran Nua supposed to run in this election? What happened to that?

Amhran Nua

brianthebard wrote: »

Weren't Amhran Nua supposed to run in this election? What happened to that?

I don't recall having claimed we were going to run candidates in this election. We have plenty of internet support, not enough feet on the ground. Or rather, an insufficient concentration in any one area.

Might I ask why this is relevant?

I await, once again, a reply from Mike Cubbard, explaining his policies and how he intends to see them through as an independent.

brianthebard

Its relevant cause there's a whiff of sour grapes off your posts.

Amhran Nua

brianthebard wrote: »

Its relevant cause there's a whiff of sour grapes off your posts.

No, just a whiff of exhaustion from waiting for answers from Cubbards the length and breadth of the country.

If Mike Cubbard wants the boards.ie vote, he'd do well to answer legitimate questions from boards.ie. You aren't supporting the underdog; I'd urge you to take a close look at what exactly it is that you are supporting.

brianthebard

I don't have a vote in this constituency so I don't have to worry about supporting anything here, but I think its pretty funny that you demand answers of MC, why not pm him and make him aware of this thread if you want answers so badly? He's a new user who's going to be fairly busy this next few weeks, probably doesn't have much time to answer questions from internet political parties.

Amhran Nua

brianthebard wrote: »

but I think its pretty funny that you demand answers of MC

Really, so you think it's funny that I demand answers (for the second time) from someone who claims to want to represent me? Funny sense of humour you have there.

brianthebard

You can't just shout questions into the wilderness and expect answers, then complain that he hasn't replied. Make him aware of your questions or put up with it.

Amhran Nua

brianthebard wrote: »

You can't just shout questions into the wilderness and expect answers, then complain that he hasn't replied. Make him aware of your questions or put up with it.

Democracy, meet brianthebard, brianthebard, this is democracy. MC has made a point of putting himself out there on boards, I'm quite happy to wait a couple of days for him to pick up on the thread with his name on it, and at no point did I state otherwise.

I'm not happy to jump on the bandwagon and give him the everyman vote at a time of national crisis, and then sit here in five years time shaking my head and wondering how it all went wrong.

Again.