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UPC blocking random sites?

  • 10-02-2011 1:28pm
    #1
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    Can anyone on UPC see if they can access this site:

    www.soulrevolver.com

    It's a UK company that sells leather jackets. I've been trying to access it for several days without any luck. The weird thing is I can access it perfectly from my phone (using the phone network) and from my college wifi network. I've tried using OpenDNS with no success as well.

    Any thoughts on why this site isn't working on UPC? Has anyone found other sites like this? Could this just be a routing issue?


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Working fine for me and I have UPC. I'm using google dns servers and my own router so maybe that has something to do with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭game4it70


    For what its worth it works fine for me on UPC in south Dublin.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Cheers, guys.

    That's really strange. So why might it not be working for me?


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,763 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Cheers, guys.

    That's really strange. So why might it not be working for me?

    Screwed up local DNS cache maybe? Try ipconfig /flushdns to clear it and then try in a fresh browser session.

    /also works for me on UPC.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    That was one of the first things I did. Nada. It's the same with every device in the house.

    My only other thought is that my current IP address is being blocked/blacklisted somewhere along the way. I'm going to try leaving the router off for as long as possible and see if I can get a new IP.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Maybe try doing a tracert and see where it is getting stopped.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,763 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    That was one of the first things I did. Nada. It's the same with every device in the house.

    My only other thought is that my current IP address is being blocked/blacklisted somewhere along the way. I'm going to try leaving the router off for as long as possible and see if I can get a new IP.

    Could always check your DNS response. I'm getting 109.104.70.250 from Google's public DNS.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,243 ✭✭✭✭Jesus Wept


    Not working for me, Dublin North, upc.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I tried leaving the router off for 20 minutes but the IP is still the same.
    Spear wrote: »
    Could always check your DNS response. I'm getting 109.104.70.250 from Google's public DNS.
    I'm getting the same using UPC's DNS server.
    The-Rigger wrote: »
    Not working for me, Dublin North, upc.
    Interesting. At least I'm not the only one. I'm Dublin West btw.
    Maybe try doing a tracert and see where it is getting stopped.
    It's getting no further than:

    50g-portchannel-ldc4.core.webfusion.com (109.104.95.74)


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    I tried leaving the router off for 20 minutes but the IP is still the same.


    I'm getting the same using UPC's DNS server.


    Interesting. At least I'm not the only one. I'm Dublin West btw.


    It's getting no further than:

    50g-portchannel-ldc4.core.webfusion.com (109.104.95.74)

    That's weird. The exact same thing happens to me yet I can still access the website.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,659 ✭✭✭Chaotic_Forces


    I'm in Dublin City Centre and it worked for me just now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,174 ✭✭✭✭Captain Chaos


    Nope, just times out for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    in Navan and its working okay for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,116 ✭✭✭starviewadams


    West Dublin on UPC and the connection just times out,using Google DNS too.


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,763 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    That's weird. The exact same thing happens to me yet I can still access the website.

    Not weird at all, no-one's obliged to respond to ICMP requests like that, and many won't for security reasons.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,125 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    Spear wrote: »
    Not weird at all, no-one's obliged to respond to ICMP requests like that, and many won't for security reasons.

    Never knew that. Thanks for the info.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    This must be a UPC problem, so. Strange that it's only affecting some users.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,435 ✭✭✭TiGeR KiNgS


    UPC and cant connect, using opendns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    its likely to either be a routing issue somewhere or a blocklisted range of IP's.

    best thing to do is to contact UPC for support and see what they can do to fix it. :)


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    North Dublin & working fine for me.
    Re turning off modem for 20 mins. My UPC Ip has never changed.:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭omg a kitty


    Im in North Dublin(Finglas) and its working fine for me


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭Burgo


    Hey sorry to resurrect this thread, trying to get on http://www.g2play.net/store/ for a while with no success, have tried in my mates who is also with UPC and lives in the same area as me and has the same problem. I got it to work via proxy or phone network, but no joy with UPC.

    Can anyone on UPC access the site?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    It's okay for me. I still can't access Soul Revolver though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,815 ✭✭✭Burgo


    It's okay for me. I still can't access Soul Revolver though.

    I can get on soul revolver no problem. Wanna swap :pac:


  • Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 9,075 Mod ✭✭✭✭Aquos76


    both are fine for me, I am also on UPC


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,007 ✭✭✭Moriarty


    As it happens, I can't reach soulrevolver.com here either.

    The best method you have to check where the problem is is to open a command prompt and traceroute to the site you're trying to reach.

    This goes for any sites you ever have problems accessing.
    traceroute www.soulrevolver.com
    traceroute to soulrevolver.com (109.104.70.250), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
     1  * * *
     2  109.255.253.190 (109.255.253.190)  12.310 ms  16.737 ms  30.204 ms
     3  84.116.239.2 (84.116.239.2)  26.136 ms  64.243 ms  71.426 ms
     4  84.116.238.42 (84.116.238.42)  46.082 ms  48.027 ms  120.282 ms
     5  84-116-130-241.aorta.net (84.116.130.241)  47.664 ms
        84.116.134.130 (84.116.134.130)  52.643 ms
        84-116-130-241.aorta.net (84.116.130.241)  25.185 ms
     6  84.116.132.66 (84.116.132.66)  29.602 ms  22.834 ms
        84.116.132.70 (84.116.132.70)  65.266 ms
     7  te2-2-1.ar6.lon3.gblx.net (64.212.107.13)  23.062 ms  41.027 ms  22.507 ms
     8  ae3-20G.scr3.LON3.gblx.net (67.17.73.94)  67.944 ms  56.055 ms  24.244 ms
     9  lag1.ar9.LON3.gblx.net (67.17.72.21)  57.551 ms  39.196 ms  40.982 ms
    10  WEBFUSION-LTD.TenGigabitEthernet14-1.ar9.LON3.gblx.net (208.178.246.254)  75.797 ms  24.306 ms  25.744 ms
    11  tn5-ldc5.core.webfusion.com (109.104.95.114)  33.738 ms  40.779 ms  37.659 ms
    12  ldc5-ldc4.core.webfusion.com (109.104.95.85)  27.551 ms  30.210 ms  34.445 ms
    13  * * *
    14  * * *
    15  * * *
    

    In windows the command is tracert instead of traceroute. The principle is the same though.

    In the traceroute above, it leaves the UPC network between hop 6 and hop 7, where it crosses from aorta.net (aka UPC's core european network) to gblx.net (aka Global Crossing, a transit provider) and then on to webfusion which is presumably SoulRevolver.com's hosting company. So we can see that the reason you can't reach soulrevolver.com is almost certainly caused by either soulrevolver.com or webfusion's network. Whether this is due to a fault or a conscious decision is another matter. If the traceroute started to time out before hop 6, then it would more than likely be a problem inside UPC's network and for them to sort out.

    If it's a problem for you, fire off an email to UPC support and they may be inclined to contact webfusion and sort out where the problem lies... or they may just politely tell you that it's outside their network and hence outside their control - which is perfectly true.

    You could also try contacting soulrevolver or webfusion, but since you're not a customer of theirs they may be less likely to pay you much attention.

    Either way, if you're going to contact someone, you're going to get a lot further if you can provide all the information that you can reasonably get and be polite.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,144 ✭✭✭mollser


    Has anyone resolved this problem?

    I can't access the soul revolver site, but more importantly I can't access the MS Outlook web server for my work emails. i.e. the website is mail.COMPANYNAME.ie.

    It worked no problem up to a couple of months ago, but nothing now :( Seems to be the same problem, it times out on step 7 above...


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 25,763 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Do you mean the step 7 in Moriarty's trace? If so that's an issue at Global Crossing. You could try raise a ticket with them, or badger UPC to do so.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,084 ✭✭✭oppenheimer1


    maybe its the fashion police?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    mollser wrote: »
    Has anyone resolved this problem?

    I can't access the soul revolver site
    it's working fine for me this morning. http://www.soulrevolver.com/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    vibe666 wrote: »
    it's working fine for me this morning. http://www.soulrevolver.com/

    seems fine today
    \
    Traceroute has started…

    traceroute to soulrevolver.com (109.104.70.250), 64 hops max, 72 byte packets
    1 10.0.1.1 (10.0.1.1) 5.045 ms 2.412 ms 3.807 ms
    2 46.7.14.1 (46.7.14.1) 9.249 ms 8.158 ms 10.053 ms
    3 188.141.127.81 (188.141.127.81) 8.035 ms 10.417 ms 9.858 ms
    4 089-101-174110.ntlworld.ie (89.101.174.110) 48.544 ms 16.001 ms 14.182 ms
    5 84.116.134.126 (84.116.134.126) 30.582 ms 43.913 ms 32.306 ms
    6 84-116-130-241.aorta.net (84.116.130.241) 31.639 ms 29.851 ms 31.240 ms
    7 84.116.132.58 (84.116.132.58) 30.194 ms 32.385 ms 29.756 ms
    8 te2-2-1.ar6.lon3.gblx.net (64.212.107.13) 30.297 ms 32.775 ms 31.848 ms
    9 ae3-20g.scr3.lon3.gblx.net (67.17.73.94) 31.469 ms 32.537 ms 30.638 ms
    10 lag1.ar9.lon3.gblx.net (67.17.72.21) 37.919 ms 50.136 ms 41.379 ms
    11 webfusion-ltd.tengigabitethernet14-1.ar9.lon3.gblx.net (208.178.246.254) 32.071 ms 32.228 ms 31.462 ms
    12 tn5-ldc5.core.webfusion.com (109.104.95.114) 38.677 ms 36.713 ms 38.326 ms
    13 ldc5-ldc4.core.webfusion.com (109.104.95.85) 39.207 ms 39.964 ms 42.540 ms
    14 * * *
    15 * * *
    16 *


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Still not working for me.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,658 ✭✭✭donutheadhomer


    hm can you ping of the addresses on the trace route?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭collier


    It's working grand for me on the 50mb package in Dublin 15. I am using Google DNS servers also.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    It's not working for me. UPC 50Mbit package in Dublin. Thomson modem. Default settings.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭mark17j


    Site works for me, UPC 25mb Dublin west Cisco modem


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭Wickerman1


    Not working South Dublin!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,597 ✭✭✭WIZE


    it works for me and if you think by turning off your modem to get a new ip address it doesnt work

    Ive had the same ip address for 3 year with UPC


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Works fine here (Dublin 3 with EPC2203) but do get the timeouts on the traceroute.
    Tracing route to soulrevolver.com [109.104.70.250]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:
    
      1     1 ms     1 ms     1 ms  fritz.box [192.168.178.1]
      2    12 ms    10 ms    10 ms  089-101-040001.ntlworld.ie [89.101.40.1]
      3    21 ms    13 ms    11 ms  109.255.253.190
      4    28 ms    29 ms    28 ms  84.116.239.2
      5    42 ms    49 ms    27 ms  84.116.238.42
      6    27 ms    27 ms    42 ms  84.116.134.130
      7    31 ms    27 ms    33 ms  84.116.132.58
      8    48 ms   161 ms   207 ms  te2-2-1.ar6.lon3.gblx.net [64.212.107.13]
      9    26 ms    26 ms    29 ms  ae3-20G.scr3.LON3.gblx.net [67.17.73.94]
     10    27 ms    66 ms    26 ms  lag1.ar9.LON3.gblx.net [67.17.72.21]
     11    32 ms    27 ms    27 ms  WEBFUSION-LTD.TenGigabitEthernet14-1.ar9.LON3.gblx.net [208.178.246.254]
     12    36 ms    46 ms    35 ms  tn5-ldc5.core.webfusion.com [109.104.95.114]
     13    35 ms    36 ms    37 ms  ldc5-ldc4.core.webfusion.com [109.104.95.85]
     14     *        *        *     Request timed out.
     15     *        *        *     Request timed out.
    

    About the IP addresses, at one stage I had the same IP for about a year but have had it change several times since then. I've often gone away for about a week and get a new IP when powering back on. Initially I kept the same IP even when the modem was off for days on end.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,230 ✭✭✭Solair


    Works fine for me too!

    Have you any kind of firewall software installed?

    Try resetting your browser or using an alternative browser.

    Failing that, check that you're not using some weird DNS settings.

    UPC's DNS isn't doing it.

    You could try using Google's public DNS servers:

    Details here: http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    Okay, the good news: I can now access www.soulrevolver.com

    Bad news: I can no longer access www.superherohype.com

    :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,080 ✭✭✭✭Random


    Okay, the good news: I can now access www.soulrevolver.com

    Bad news: I can no longer access www.superherohype.com

    :(
    both websites work for me on upc.
    i have default dns servers etc.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 24,789 Mod ✭✭✭✭KoolKid


    Fine here also using UPCs default DNS


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭mark17j


    Works for me also on UPC default dns


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 470 ✭✭stoksyXL


    http://www.superherohype.com/
    http://www.wrestlezone.com/
    http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/


    All not working for me, i'm on upc 30meg in the south Dublin city area. But these sites load fine on the iPhone with o2's 3g connection.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭Brianderunner


    I always suspected UPC were blocking "isohunt" and "the box" on my internet conenction as we were heavy downloaders. Every other site worked perfectly. This was going on for a few weeks before i rang them and asked them straight out were they slowing the sites down to curb our downloading, which they denied. I said we would switch if they werent fixed. The next day the 2 sites were back working normally. Coincidence?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 507 ✭✭✭mark17j


    stoksyXL wrote: »
    http://www.superherohype.com/
    http://www.wrestlezone.com/
    http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/


    All not working for me, i'm on upc 30meg in the south Dublin city area. But these sites load fine on the iPhone with o2's 3g connection.

    All those sites work for me on UPC 25mb using default DNS
    Dublin west


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