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First time PC build advice please!
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09-02-2011 11:56pm#1Join Date:Posts: 10515
I've never built a pc before but want to give it a go. I've always been into computers but used to work for Dell so always had them. I've just started to learn Photoshop & Illustrator and my computer is starting to creak. My current pc is Ancient, P4 3.4 with Hyperthreading oooohhhhh!
but in fairness it has done me very well and is generally fine. But I'd like a refresh.
Deffo trying to keep it on the cheap, but would appreciate some advice. Normal motherboard and average processor - I'm sure anything now will beat the pants of what I have been using. Basic graphics card that will handle Photoshop for a beginner - and dual monitor preferably. Prob 4gb of ram. Decent Sound card. Not sure about Case and power supply, what should I b looking for? 1-2tb hard drive.
Also, would it be worth going for an SSD for the OS? Is it worth it f trying to keep costs down?
Sorry if this is vague put some pointers would be appreciated. What sites are good for building a pc, or do some have bundles and offers etc?
Thanks for your help!
Zascar0
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Thanks a mil, yeah if someone could help me pick out a few things I'd really really appreciate it
OK I just had a look through that site....
Processor: I'm sure 3 core would be fine. Am I going to notice the difference if I go for 4 core?
Motherboard: The cheapest half decent acceptable one
Ram: 4GB, any type as you say..
Graphics: I won't be doing any gaming - at all - only Photoshop & Illustrator. My last graphics card was integrated lol, so literally anything will do, but I would like Dual Monitor though.
Hard Drive: I already have a 750gb - Another 1TB would be fine. Are they all relatively comparable speed wise?
Power Supply & fan etc: I have no idea, I need a recommendation here:
Case: Hmmm not sure, I just know I definitely need a lot of usb ports. What else do I need to think about?
Wifi: I have a usb dongle, but should I get something better?
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you can definitely save money building it yourself you just have to put in a lot of research and shop around for the parts. if i had purchased something pre built with the same quality of components it would have cost me a good 200+ more than it did. its not only about saving money anyway but also about getting the best for your money.
Yeah I did put a lot of research into it but I think that was my downfall
The more I read up on the specs the better components I wanted.
In fairness though that example put together above is for 465 euro and doesn't include a monitor, keyboard, speakers etc. You can pick up a decent package for 400 euro off the shelf. I don't think its done to save money- more for the thrill of it.
On the other hand, if you do pick decent components and leave room for expansion, it'll probably save you money in the long term as you can upgrade when necessary. Also, if any part of the hardware fails you'll know how to diagnose and fix it.0 -
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IrishMetalhead wrote: »just specced out a simular specced pc but has a better cpu, larger hdd and with 4gb of ddr3 rather than 3gb of ddr2,
both are using in tergrade graphics and sound.
(BTW the PC linked to dabs is €474.40 not under €400)
Thats good work MetalHead, wish I had you to hand when I built mine
I know that PC isn't under 400. Here is a sub-400 from the Dabs site but as I said they're not good for much other than web browsing (before the litany of abuse commences)
http://www.dabs.ie/products/lenovo-thinkcentre-a70-pentium-dual-core-e5500-1gb-250gb-dvdrw-windows-7-home-premium-office-ready-74FR.html
Here is another desktop, no monitor and no OS for a very reasonable sub-300
http://www.dabs.ie/products/zoostorm-pentium-dual-core-e5500-2gb-500gb-no-operating-system-7B1V.html0 -
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jeepers101 wrote: »Thats good work MetalHead, wish I had you to hand when I built mine
I know that PC isn't under 400. Here is a sub-400 from the Dabs site but as I said they're not good for much other than web browsing (before the litany of abuse commences)
http://www.dabs.ie/products/lenovo-thinkcentre-a70-pentium-dual-core-e5500-1gb-250gb-dvdrw-windows-7-home-premium-office-ready-74FR.html
Here is another desktop, no monitor and no OS for a very reasonable sub-300
http://www.dabs.ie/products/zoostorm-pentium-dual-core-e5500-2gb-500gb-no-operating-system-7B1V.html
That second PC is 283 euros, without operating system?
I just built the exact same spec for 197 euros + build 20 euros + 30 delivery.. still cheaper.. actually much cheaper
For 283 you can get a much faster tricore, with double the ram and double the harddrive
Yes on some sites the low end pcs might be bargains, but its rare. The true bargains lay on ebay and outlet sites, they take time and a little expertise to find, then its possible to get quadcores with full windows and all bells and whistles for sub 300.0 -
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IrishMetalhead wrote: »nope not worth spenduling the extra cash at all all dvd-rw's are more than less the same speed and the reason thats the cheapest is because they have them in massiv bulk plus there oem which means it comes by itself without the retail box so your not getting any less quality than the other drives trust me
The only difference really between more expensive drives is the sound. I went for a cheap model and mine is pretty loud plus it makes a weird click sound every boot. I hope. Cause if its the hard drive...
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I had specced up as close as possible build on Ebuyer to IrishMetalHead, but then I remembered that they are probably even more awkward to pay and get something delivered to Ireland as HWVS are.
Since I did it I may as well post it anyway, comes to just under €350 delivered (£283 + £10) PP.
There aren't too many places where your 400 euro will stretch as far as HWVS, their full build prices are probably the best in Europe and very few other sites have anywhere near as good a selection
of quality low budget budget PSU and cases for example (Ebuyer are limited enough in this respect).
A few alternatives to HWVS and Ebuyer off the top of my head (For a lower budget Scan are probably the next best bet IMO).
Komplett.ie
Dabs.ie
Overclockers.co.uk
Scan.co.uk
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Does anyone know how long delivery takes from HardwareVersande? For €30 it would want to be pretty quick. Have to wait for the funds to get there first though and I bet that will take a good few days. Would love to have it all by the weekend to put it together then.
Just crazy how they don't accept credit cards, what possible reason can they have apart from being useless? Surely if their selection and prices are so fantastic, then if they cleaned up their website and started operating like normal online retailers, they could take a lot of business away from the other big players...
Simply put Germans don't do credit cards, and like many retailers I presume they are geared primarly to cater for their domestic market (For example to register an Irish address with US or UK retailers sans postcode can be difficult at times).
Unless you are in a touristy spot, it is nearly impossible to use one in Germany day to day (Harsh lesson learnt during Oktoberfest)
http://german-way.com/blog/2009/08/03/german-banking-and-credit-cards-for-beginners/
Delivery will take a little over a week, although going by the some of experiences of others posted here the bulk of that time it is often spent gathering dust in an An Post warehouse somewhere.0 -
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The only difference really between more expensive drives is the sound. I went for a cheap model and mine is pretty loud plus it makes a weird click sound every boot. I hope. Cause if its the hard drive...
What's the make? I have a samsung drive and it's a lot louder than previous drives I've had of similar speeds.0 -
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