Are you going to vote?

Conor_M1990

To be honest i dunno if I will or not its not a great selection FG are too similer to FF and I dont want Kenny in charge. Looking at the debate on tv3 FF are going to contine on the road there on Gilmore seems to be well able to talk but thats about it. I personally feel Gerry Adams should stay out of our politics hes an old man and a relic of the troblues and the only reason hes running is for personal gain.

just incase anybody asks I am a registered voter and yes I have voted before

orourkeda

Conor_M1990 wrote: »

To be honest i dunno if I will or not its not a great selection FG are too similer to FF and I dont want Kenny in charge. Looking at the debate on tv3 FF are going to contine on the road there on Gilmore seems to be well able to talk but thats about it. I personally feel Gerry Adams should stay out of our politics hes an old man and a relic of the troblues and the only reason hes running is for personal gain.

Do you reckon he's alone here?

Snakeblood

I just did!

Retail Hell

unfortunately I'mnot currently residingin ireland or europe,and can't get back to get on the register intime for the election

seanybiker

Nope. Never do.

Chris P. Bacon

No i wont be voting,politics and politicians mean nothing to me,they are all the same.I hope to emigrate at some stage this year anyway,so i couldn't care less who is in charge of the country.

UDAWINNER

Conor_M1990 wrote: »

To be honest i dunno if I will or not its not a great selection FG are too similer to FF and I dont want Kenny in charge. Looking at the debate on tv3 FF are going to contine on the road there on Gilmore seems to be well able to talk but thats about it. I personally feel Gerry Adams should stay out of our politics hes an old man and a relic of the troblues and the only reason hes running is for personal gain.

Of all the politicians that could have named, Adams is arguably the one politician who has never done anything for personal gain, never wanted to be deputy first minister or even a minister, et c. Why not mention Callely, Bertie, Biffo, etc instead of the SF bashing.
To answer the question, I will be voting

Conor_M1990

orourkeda wrote: »

Do you reckon he's alone here?

Tu shea !!!

orourkeda

Conor_M1990 wrote: »

Tu shea !!!

Oh god

Conor_M1990

UDAWINNER wrote: »

Of all the politicians that could have named, Adams is arguably the one politician who has never done anything for personal gain, never wanted to be deputy first minister or even a minister, et c. Why not mention Callely, Bertie, Biffo, etc instead of the SF bashing.
To answer the question, I will be voting

Im not SF bashing I actually like SF but I feel like he is sticking his nose in where it isnt wanted and his I do believe he is running for personal gain (same with the rest of them if Im honest) do you believe he would be running if the country wasnt as ****ed up as it is

TeddyTedson

Of course I'll be voting

orourkeda

Conor_M1990 wrote: »

Im not SF bashing I actually like SF but I feel like he is sticking his nose in where it isnt wanted and his I do believe he is running for personal gain (same with the rest of them if Im honest) do you believe he would be running if the country wasnt as ****ed up as it is

But it's down to the constituents involved to decide this. If they want him they'll elect him.

msg11

Yes. I will . Unfortunately they are all the same. The country is ****ed at leased Sinn Fein will supply some guns to fight the bastards off when the time comes.

(as boards would have you belive this place is going to turn into a place only ross kemp would visit )

UDAWINNER

Conor_M1990 wrote: »

Im not SF bashing I actually like SF but I feel like he is sticking his nose in where it isnt wanted and his I do believe he is running for personal gain (same with the rest of them if Im honest) do you believe he would be running if the country wasnt as ****ed up as it is

He probably thinks he can contribute and besides he's better than some of the politicians we have. Sorry about accusing u of SF bashing.

Guy:Incognito

Hey, is this some sort of trick?

Whatever we click, we have voted.

Crafty crafty OP.

Senna

Conor_M1990 wrote: »

To be honest i dunno if I will

seanybiker wrote: »

Nope. Never do.

Richie Cranium wrote: »

No i wont be voting

FFS :rolleyes:

silverspoon

I can't understand anyone not voting really. I know it's pretty much like the South Park Turd or Douche choice, but I'm voting for the douches who didn't financially ruin the economy, in order to make sure the turds who did are gone.

Guy:Incognito

silverspoon wrote: »

I can't understand anyone not voting really. I know it's pretty much like the South Park Turd or Douche choice, but I'm voting for the douches who didn't financially ruin the economy, in order to make sure the turds who did are gone.

The douches didnt say anything while the turds were ruinign stuff.

silverspoon

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

The douches didnt say anything while the turds were ruinign stuff.

Yeah, well, neither did we, and now's our chance.

Conor_M1990

silverspoon wrote: »

Yeah, well, neither did we, and now's our chance.

yeah but replacing a turd with a dounche ? its really a catch 22

Tar.Aldarion

Won't be home for it no

silverspoon

Conor_M1990 wrote: »

yeah but replacing a turd with a dounche ? its really a catch 22

Look, all politicians are really the same monster, no matter which party they come from. That is why I mentioned the stupid South Park reference - no matter what party you go for, the nature of the game means they will tend to share similar characteristics - pomp, ego, copious use of rhetoric to get the voters onside etc etc.
None of the people who are possibilities for leader of the country are a breath of fresh air by any means, but they are the options that we have. If you don't see the point in voting in this election, after everything that has happened since 2007, then I'm certainly not going to convince you. Were this a run-of-the-mill election I would still be voting, but this is an important election, and I want to ensure the people who I think will do the best job will get it. Yeah politicians in general all seem similar, and policy-wise the differences between the main parties are subtle, but they are different.

Badgermonkey

I will vote, though I fear problems in how we go about our politics are cross party, systemic, cultural and not easily remedied.

The change will be welcome but in many ways is merely a cosmetic shift.

poppyvalley

I am an abff voter, but I'm inclined towards Labour. I expect FG will win. Can you imagine Brian Hayes being compassionate.

creative100

Conor_M1990 wrote: »

To be honest i dunno if I will or not its not a great selection FG are too similer to FF and I dont want Kenny in charge. Looking at the debate on tv3 FF are going to contine on the road there on Gilmore seems to be well able to talk but thats about it. I personally feel Gerry Adams should stay out of our politics hes an old man and a relic of the troblues and the only reason hes running is for personal gain.

just incase anybody asks I am a registered voter and yes I have voted before

Adams really has nothing to gain from this personally. He gave up both his West Belfast and Westminster seat, and is taking an enormous risk which if went wrong, would see his political life hit very hard. To suggest that he is running for personal gain is really a mis-perception of both Adams and Sinn Fein. What personal gain is available to Adams from his decision to run in the south? Who said he isn't wanted in "our politics"? Why would you want to see him excluded? He is a hugely charismatic leader, his opponents admit this, he is the only leader in the current mix who has a vision, ideology and passion. The other gombeen men are useless and I for one think Adams will rock the boat in Leinster House.

Also, the "old man" comment is a bit silly. He is full of ability and energy at his age, which again is recognised by his enemies and opponents. He is the man who brought about the peace process to end what you call "the troubles", and hopefully bring about an end to this stupid "they're all the same therefore lets roll over and not bother voting" attitude which exists - pure defeatist attitude.

It could also be noted that Sinn Féin are the only party whose representatives are actually paid by the party, the average industrial wage. Is this for personal gain?

Presumably, you don't have a vote in Louth/East Meath constituency, so I think it would be wrong to direct that Adams has no place in "our politics". Adams is, whether you like it or not a key player in Irish politics and will be noted as such in history. What would stop you giving a vote to your local SF candidate?


Who do you want negotiating with the IMF and EU? (And it WILL happen, be it Sinn Féin, Labour... etc)

Fianna Fail?
Labour?
Fine Gael (Led by Enda!)
Or Sinn Féin, who I think we'll agree have a good track record of negotiating and have a sense of self worth when it comes to negotiating with big international players such as the IMF or EU. ..

Aoifey!

Just registered a few months ago (when I turned 18) and I don't think I'll bother voting. From what I've heard every party will just end up doing the same thing so really, what's the point?! At this stage noone can really change things so it's all the same.

stovelid

Of course.

Rabies

No.

But even if I did live in Ireland I prob wouldn't. Don't have much of an interest in politics.

Sticky_Fingers

Aoifey! wrote: »

Just registered a few months ago (when I turned 18) and I don't think I'll bother voting. From what I've heard every party will just end up doing the same thing so really, what's the point?! At this stage noone can really change things so it's all the same.

If you don't vote than you can't really complain about the state of the country and what a crappy job the government is doing. Everyone who is eligible should cast a vote, spoil it if necessary to show your dissatisfaction with the candidates put forward but vote nonetheless.

stovelid

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Agreed.

While I kind of understand spoiled votes as a concept, people who didn't vote, say, in the last election can hardly complain on here about any policies or actions taken by the present government. I accept that the differences between parties can often seem infinitesimal, but surely tactical votes against FF/the then PDs were still warranted.

Kev_ps3

Dont vote - no right to complain
Vote for one of the establishment parties - no right to complain

hondasam

Yes I always vote. It's the people who do not vote that complain the most. If you do not vote then you should not criticise the way the country is been run.

If you want to make a difference get out and vote.

Riddle101

Yes I will be voting. I can't understand why people won't. The future of the country rests on this election, and I just think we owe it to ourselves to vote. It may be an annoying thing to do, expecially considering the politicians who are running, but it's the first bit of democracy we've gotten in a long time.

podgemonster

Booked a holiday that weekend, leaving on Thursday so won't be able to. Was hoping the election would be in March.

krudler

Vote for Sinn Fein, when the zombies arrive we'll need all the molotov cocktails and guns we can get.

squeakyduck

Got my address changed to my current residence so I'm just waiting on my polling card. I think my polling station should be across the road!

Grasshoppa

Don't vote. Never did.

krudler

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Dont vote - no right to complain
Vote for one of the establishment parties - no right to complain

But then if you do vote for a new government and they screw up just as bad (which this probably will) then by the next election everyone will be decrying those who voted in the new crowd, its a lose lose for people.

BizzyC

To be honest, I'm not sure at this point...

I wont vote for anyone who wont lay out the policies they plan to implement, which rules out both FG and Labour. I can't vote for them simply cause they weren't in power when things fell apart, cause they've done nothing to show they have a solid idea as of what to do to fix it.

The only party who are attempting doing that is FF, and I'm ****ed if I'm voting for them.

If there was a decent independat in my area I'd vote for him, but at the moment I dont see anyone standing out as a person I would want to lead to this country.
If Enda or Eamon can do a better job to demonstrate they have a real plan for leading the next government they'll get my vote. Insinuating that they do wont cut it.

enda1

I won't be voting cause I don't live in Ireland. However, those who post they wont vote cause they have no interest in politics!???

Fair enough don't run for office, or don't study political science but at least bleedin' vote! Its irrelevant whether or not you have an interest in politics. Surely you have an interest in your well-being, in taxation levels, in buses being on time, in hospitals having beds when/if you're sick etc. etc.

Aoiferz

Someone told me the other day they weren't voting because they didn't know enough about the parties, when I suggested finding out they said it'd be too much effort! This coming from a person who complained over cuts and went on the student march not so long ago :rolleyes:

Yes, I will be voting.

LordSutch

creative100 wrote: »

Adams really has nothing to gain from this personally. He gave up both his West Belfast and Westminster seat, and is taking an enormous risk which if went wrong, would see his political life hit very hard. To suggest that he is running for personal gain is really a mis-perception of both Adams and Sinn Fein. What personal gain is available to Adams from his decision to run in the south? Who said he isn't wanted in "our politics"? Why would you want to see him excluded? He is a hugely charismatic leader, his opponents admit this, he is the only leader in the current mix who has a vision, ideology and passion. The other gombeen men are useless and I for one think Adams will rock the boat in Leinster House.

Looking forward to the five way debate, where I fully expect Adams to be shot down in flames he really is a lightweight when it comes to southern economics, and his image is not only tainted with the general electorate, but I get the impression that even some of his own (sf/ira supporters) think that Adams is a liability to their own cause in the south, re gaining more seats. Even last week Adams was caught out when asked did he know what the VAT rate was in the Republic, and he didn't f** f sake! Adams brain & his heart are in the North, and the only reason he has crossed the border is to spend the autumn of his political life in the Dail, where he will get cut to ribbons on a daily basis.

The man has no grasp of the southern economy.

Riddle101

LordSutch wrote: »

Looking forward to the five way debate, where I fully expect Adams to be shot down in flames he really is a lightweight when it comes to southern economics, and his image is not only tainted with the general electorate, but I get the impression that even some of his own (sf/ira supporters) think that Adams is a liability to their own cause in the south, re gaining more seats. Even last week Adams was caught out when asked did he know what the VAT rate was in the Republic, and he didn't f** f sake! Adams brain & his heart are in the North, and the only reason he has crossed the border is to spend the autumn of his political life in the Dail, where he will get cut to ribbons on a daily basis.

The man has no grasp of the southern economy.

If he's smart he'll proberly brush up on his southern economics before the debate. But yeah, it'll be interest to see.

Asphyxia

Yes.

hondasam

krudler wrote: »

But then if you do vote for a new government and they screw up just as bad (which this probably will) then by the next election everyone will be decrying those who voted in the new crowd, its a lose lose for people.

you can vote them out the next time. We have to give some one a chance to change the country. people have done some much giving out about FF it will be interesting to see how many will actually change their vote to another party.

hondasam

Richie Cranium wrote: »

No i wont be voting,politics and politicians mean nothing to me,they are all the same.I hope to emigrate at some stage this year anyway,so i couldn't care less who is in charge of the country.

what If you want to return at some point, are you not concerned about your family if the are living here.

Aoifey!

Sticky_Fingers wrote: »

If you don't vote than you can't really complain about the state of the country and what a crappy job the government is doing. Everyone who is eligible should cast a vote, spoil it if necessary to show your dissatisfaction with the candidates put forward but vote nonetheless.

Did I complain?

sagat2

Out of state out of mind.

sdanseo

If you are eligible to vote, you should do so. There is no excuse for not bothering. The only valid reasons, to my mind, are incapacity, ineligibility and being abroad/away from polling station at the time.

People who say they feel they shoudln't or think it's ok not to vote, because "ah they're all as bead as the rest" are DELUDED. If you don't vote in the lesser of all the evils at the very least, nothing will change - and it stands to reason someone not prepared to vote wants some form of political change or they wouldn't feel that way. A man on the late late back in 2002 even made the point that some people deliberately spoil their vote in this instance to make a statement, rather than not vote. This is preferable, as spoilt vote are counted.

Not voting becuase you feel it's your civic right not to vote, because you simply don't feel like it or aren't arsed it mind bogglingly stupid and shouldn't be accepted, even if it can't possible (and shouldn't) be outlawed. It's lazy, arrogant and silly.

/minirant

twinytwo

seanybiker wrote: »

Nope. Never do.

ANd you would prob be the very first to start moaning about the government. A lot of people died to give people like you the chance to vote. You should at least vote to unfortunately elect the best of a bad lot. the sooner the better they make it like aus and you either vote or get fined.

Naikon

No, the cynic in me believes the next crowd will still fall for corruptive practices. I won't be here for much longer anyway, so I really don't care either way. People who say voting will change things for the better, are the deluded imo. Politics does not work that way. We're slaves to debt. We need a proper revolution, not another election imo. More of the same ****e on the way I reckon.