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The Latest Independent - Eamonn Blaney & the New Vision

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Liz Kaye


    I have to agree with the above poster. Both groups should focus on getting their message out there. I see the www.fisnua.com website has a sound manifesto and definitely worth following. I will be giving my number one to Pat Kavanagh as she is well known around wicklow as having integrity and vision. I cant speak in the same way for this mr blaney, except for the sins of the fathers etc, but im sure he will do ok. Anyone who throws money at a problem generally thinks they can do well.
    I am generally an apolitical person, but I have to say that I'm really impressed by the www.fisnua.com politics. Working at a local level to create jobs and keep our heritage.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Dr Mary Attenborough


    CDfm wrote: »
    I looked up the rules on registering of Political Parties and in summary FIS NUA as a party wasn't registered until Feb 4th.

    I did a web search on Iris Oifigiúil. and could not find it there.

    I think you have a problem with the use of the fada.
    Please see
    http://www.irisoifigiuil.ie/currentissues/Ir140111.pdf
    and search for Fís Nua within the pdf document.

    We were in the process of registering for 2 months. Any enquiry to the Registrar of Political Parties as to pending registrations would have confirmed as such.

    Before we started the registration process we had to develop a constitution and a manifesto. We decided on a name and a draft manifesto in June 2010. We adopted the manifesto and constitution at an inaugural convention in September 2010. We then recruited the required 300 members and started the registration process before Christmas. We also had to prove that we had active groups and that we were organised to contest elections in the state.

    CDfm wrote: »
    My point being that all this stuff is fairly recent and FIS NUA's registration was delayed to the last possible minute for whatever reason.

    Perhaps it did not meet the criteia or perhaps it did not have the resourses to do so.

    There was nothing recent about our organising as a political party. It was going on actually before June of last year. However being an effective political party takes a lot of organisational effort and we had no big name backers or people who wanted to give us money. Everything has been done by people committed to the message of sustainability, ending the bank bailout and for an end to corruption. All the work has been done in our spare time.

    The only group that have done things at the last minute are the unregistered group refering to itself as 'New Vision'. Being several months too late to consider a political party Eamonn Blaney registered a business name claiming to be trading as 'NewVision'. This gives no right to the use of the name in relation to elections and it took only 4 days to register. No checks are undertaken in relation to business name registration by the Companies Registration Office.

    CDfm wrote: »
    I checked the Fis Nua website and New Vision does not appear on the header.Fis Nua brands itself as Fis Nua.


    Now - I have to ask the question - does anyone seriously believe that any reasonable person anywhere would be confused .I think not.

    It seems to be one of those unfortunate life coincidences.

    But for both focus should be on getting their respective messages out there and not

    We often refer to ourselves to non Irish speakers as Fís Nua - New Vision. We have also been appearing on the first page of google.ie for a search on 'New Vision' for several months (The Indymedia article
    http://www.indymedia.ie/article/97568 still appears on the first page - this is concerning our inaugural convention)

    There has been massive confusion over the name since this unregistered group of independents launched and I have received texts from friends asking for clarification, www.electionsireland.org initially listed all the independents claiming to be 'New Vision' as Fís Nua and Newstalk put our logo next to an article about that same group of independents.

    Our name is Fís Nua, however we are in a bilingual country and our name is 'New Vision' when translated into English. We have claim over that name (which is just one name expressed in two languages) in relation to elections within the state.

    The law in relation to political parties is there to stop the electorate from being confused. We are passed the discussion phase on this now. This other group needs to decide either to join us, and go through the democratic selection process as candidates, or to choose another name for their grouping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭NewVision


    FÍS NUA - New Vision, has been on the political tribune since last summer. Several online and newspaper articles have appeared since. I posted some examples earlier on.

    A little bit of a googling would have shown Mr. Blaney that a party exists under the name, "FÍS NUA - New Vision". He could easily have avoided the confusion in the public by registering a name that is not already in use by a political party. So this choice of a name was unprofessional at the least (also providing us with the wrong URL here in his signature). The question is more, was it done on purpose, or did he just not care, and is he willing to withdraw from that name for a political group now?

    Fact is that many people who originally wanted to know more about this 'NewVision' alliance are now getting on the FÍS NUA website. I'm getting phone calls from such people every day.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Hi Mary

    I am not affiliated to any political party or candidate and I can see that the election caught everybody by surprise.

    The administrative procedures are extremely onerous and the reason I listed them was to demonstrate to people how exacting they actually are and the sheer amount of work involved.

    I have posted on other threads how I feel that method of funding established political parties from our taxes and thru public funds is wrong and anti-democratic making it difficult for new groups and indpendents to put together the resourses to run a campaign. It is something I feel strongly about.

    Mostly, I do not keep up to date with politics, I am one of those people that has become cynical and switched off.

    Though my "politics" is different to yours - I admire what you are doing and what Eamonn Blaney is doing. We need more diversity , competition and energy in politics.

    I am fairly horrified at the vast sums in billions being wasted in public services and the waste.

    Fair dues to yourselves and Eamonn Blaney for getting up and running and taking the time to answer questions thru boards & maybe it can help to get your wider message out there. :)

    Best of luck with the campaign.


    CDfm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    NewVision wrote: »

    A little bit of a googling would have shown Mr. Blaney that a party exists under the name, "FÍS NUA - New Vision". He could easily have avoided the confusion in the public by registering a name that is not already in use by a political party. So this choice of a name was unprofessional at the least (also providing us with the wrong URL here in his signature). The question is more, was it done on purpose, or did he just not care, and is he willing to withdraw from that name for a political group now?

    I started this thread after accidentally bumping into him and asked him what he was up to.

    I vaguely know the man but am an avid boards user.

    So I checked if he was listed as a candidate on boards and he wasn't. So I posted on the error thread on him and other candidates not listed in that constituency.

    There are a lot of threads there on the issues and constuencies you guys are running in and it would be great to see more info on you getting posted.

    Anyway -thats me out of the name discussion.I dont have a side but can understand how it happened.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Dr Mary Attenborough


    CDfm wrote: »
    Hi Mary

    I am not affiliated to any political party or candidate and I can see that the election caught everybody by surprise.

    The administrative procedures are extremely onerous and the reason I listed them was to demonstrate to people how exacting they actually are and the sheer amount of work involved.

    I have posted on other threads how I feel that method of funding established political parties from our taxes and thru public funds is wrong and anti-democratic making it difficult for new groups and indpendents to put together the resourses to run a campaign. It is something I feel strongly about.

    Mostly, I do not keep up to date with politics, I am one of those people that has become cynical and switched off.

    Though my "politics" is different to yours - I admire what you are doing and what Eamonn Blaney is doing. We need more diversity , competition and energy in politics.

    I am fairly horrified at the vast sums in billions being wasted in public services and the waste.

    Fair dues to yourselves and Eamonn Blaney for getting up and running and taking the time to answer questions thru boards & maybe it can help to get your wider message out there. :)

    Best of luck with the campaign.


    CDfm

    Thanks for your good wishes CDfm. Sorry you are feeling cynical. Why not join us, you only need to sign up to our principles, which are concerning sustainability, democracy and rights to equal treatments for all see our membership form
    http://fisnua.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Fis-Nua-membership-form-Oct-2010.pdf

    Getting involved with other people in the political process can be revitalising. If you are in Dublin there is a cross party election meeting
    http://generalelection.ie/republic2011/
    on Tuesday 15th, 7pm in the Button Factory, Temple Bar : Dublin 2 which Liam Johnston, our candidate for Dublin Central is taking part in. It should be a great evening.

    I can't agree with you about the funding of political parties. I think that providing adequate state funding for political parties is much better than relying on corporate donations, which can bias a political party towards supporting vested interests.

    One of the reasons that we were devastated about missing the registration deadline (by 3 days - when the election was brought forward from March) for appearing on the ballot papers for this election is that we have little hope of getting funding now until after the next general election. However, we are of course, confident of getting at least one TD elected and our candidates have pledged to give a proportion of their salary to the party - so please vote Fís Nua!

    All the best
    Mary


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm



    One of the reasons that we were devastated about missing the registration deadline (by 3 days - when the election was brought forward from March) for appearing on the ballot papers for this election is that we have little hope of getting funding now until after the next general election. However, we are of course, confident of getting at least one TD elected and our candidates have pledged to give a proportion of their salary to the party - so please vote Fís Nua!

    All the best
    Mary

    Ouch. Thats gotta hurt.

    Everyone be nice to the independents and small parties cos they have no money. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Liz Kaye


    From small acorns do mighty oak's grow. I'll be voting for Cllr Pat Kavanagh in wicklow and for www.fisnua.com. Its no sin to be broke, the bigger sin is what the government have actually done with our money!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭NewVision


    Liz Kaye wrote: »
    From small acorns do mighty oak's grow. I'll be voting for Cllr Pat Kavanagh in wicklow and for www.fisnua.com. Its no sin to be broke, the bigger sin is what the government have actually done with our money!

    Thank you so much for your open support for FÍS NUA.
    ;)

    We have Candidates for

    Dublin Central, Liam Johnston

    Dublin South East, Peadar O'Ceallaigh

    Waterford, Dr. Ben Nutty

    Wicklow, Cllr. Pat Kavanagh and Gerry Kinsella

    => Fís Nua – New Vision, Candidates


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    I came across this a few days ago in the Irish Times and it is very fair how everyone has conducted themselves in the media on this issue.

    Major kudos.
    The Irish Times - Thursday, February 10, 2011New Vision tells of public anger




    PAUL CULLEN and MARIE O'HALLORAN
    INDEPENDENTS: A GROUP of Independents standing under the banner of New Vision says they could win seats if the anger expressed by people on doorsteps translates into votes.
    Eamon Blaney, spokesman for the group, said 19 Independent candidates had so far committed to the alliance, but more could come on board in the coming week.
    New Vision candidates have committed to vote en bloc on four issues: the separation of bank debt and sovereign debt; a viable strategy to create jobs; the overhaul of politics and the public service; and “a better deal” for the country’s natural resources.
    “We are of the collective opinion that without these four fundamental changes to how our country is run and governed, Ireland will become financially, economically and morally bankrupt in the very near future,” Mr Blaney said. Outside these issues supporters, if elected, would be free to pursue whatever policies they felt were in the interests of their constituents.
    Mr Blaney, a son of former Fianna Fáil minister Neil Blaney, is standing in Dublin North East and his brother Macdara is standing in Donegal North East.
    Also in the alliance is Luke “Ming” Flanagan, who is standing in Longford-Roscommon, who has campaigned for many years for the legalisation of cannabis.
    Mr Blaney said he had been in contact with economic commentator David McWilliams about setting up a new political movement and was disappointed Mr McWilliams had not gone ahead with his plans. “Ten days ago, we had no money and no candidates, but now we have 19 and we have an organisation.”
    One of the first challenges for the new organisation will be to distinguish itself from another new political grouping, Fís Nua (“new vision” in Irish). Fís Nua, which is fielding six candidates, registered last week as a political party but this was too late to have its name included on the ballot paper. New Vision’s name will not appear on the ballot paper either because it is a loose alliance rather than a party.
    Fís Nua, which has links to former Green Party members, said yesterday it had been in touch with New Vision and had asked that group to meet with a view to joining forces or changing its name to avoid confusion.
    However, Mr Blaney said last night he had registered the name New Vision and was previously unaware of the existence of the other group. Both groups acknowledge they have a lot in common but Fís Nua claims it has a wider agenda covering social justice, sustainability and an end to corruption.


    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0210/1224289432131.html


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Dr Mary Attenborough


    CDfm wrote: »
    I came across this a few days ago in the Irish Times and it is very fair how everyone has conducted themselves in the media on this issue.

    Major kudos.

    Thanks CDfm for this quote from the Irish Times of 10 Feb.

    However, unfortunately, I cannot agree that both sides have conducted themselves fairly.

    As soon as we heard of the group of independents seeking to refer to itself as 'New Vision', we phoned and emailed Anraí Blaney and Eamonn Blaney with a suggested meeting on 5 February. Anraí promised to inform all their members. No one turned up to the arranged meeting to represent their group. Our members have made repeated other requests for a meeting and comments posted by ourselves, also calling for a meeting, have not been published on their website. No contact with us has been initiated by this group until one of our members received a bully and aggressive phone call from Eamonn Blaney on 11 February. She is still shaken by this exchange.

    You should also look at my letter in the Irish Times on 11 Feb where I clarified that, because we are a registered political party with the name 'Fís Nua' (New Vision) the group of independents seeking to refer to itself as 'New Vision' are doing so illegally in relation to this election
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/letters/2011/0211/1224289522343.html

    I also explained in a previous post that Eamonn Blaney has attempted to mislead people in relation to some claim on the name for this group by using a Business Name Registration, which is registered in his own name as a sole trader, see
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70607866&postcount=29

    The 'New Vision' of Fís Nua involves doing politics differently. We held out the hand of friendship to this group, unfortunately to have it bitten off.

    I am afraid that just because someone has not been selected by one of the established parties is no indication that you can trust them to behave any differently from corrupt politicians of the past.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Hi Mary

    I imagine that the issue concerning a business name and political party name is unfortunate.

    It didn't seem that apparent to me when I looked up the registers.

    I imagine that the truth is probably a bit more like the election date was called in such a way as to lessen the preperation time for groups such as yourselves.

    It is hardly news that the likes of David McWilliams and others jumped ship and the group organised itself in a hurry. So I hardly think it is intentional.

    I posted the links to the register of political parties and it is fairly clear that whatever recognition there is does not apply unti after the general election.

    I came up with a Galway company that have used Nua Fis since 1998 and I havent seen comment on that. I imagine the owners of that business also are concerned about your choice of name.

    It is not a nice situation for either.of you, but I can understand it and how it happened.

    I have sympathy for all involved who are doing what the care passionately about with very limited resourses.

    CD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Dr Mary Attenborough


    CDfm wrote: »

    It is hardly news that the likes of David McWilliams and others jumped ship and the group organised itself in a hurry. So I hardly think it is intentional.
    CD
    David McWilliams is not a part of this group organised by Eamonn Blaney. He has merely offered to give economic advice to candidates standing as independents.
    CDfm wrote: »
    I posted the links to the register of political parties and it is fairly clear that whatever recognition there is does not apply unti after the general election.
    CD
    The recognition of us as a political party comes into force on 4 Feb 2011, that is the day we were entered on the register of political parties. However we do not get to appear on ballot papers for the purposes of this election nor were we able to nominate candidates directly. This is just an administrative issue as a cut-off date needs to be specified in the law for the Clerk of the Dáil to inform returning officers.
    CDfm wrote: »
    I came up with a Galway company that have used Nua Fis since 1998 and I havent seen comment on that. I imagine the owners of that business also are concerned about your choice of name.
    CD
    Intellectual property rights over names are generally protected only in a particular line of business or area. We are a political party. We are only claiming rights over the name in relation to groupings campaigning in elections within the State

    CDfm wrote: »
    It is not a nice situation for either.of you, but I can understand it and how it happened.

    I have sympathy for all involved who are doing what the care passionately about with very limited resourses.

    CD
    I know that you are trying to be even handed here. But the situation is that we have a legal claim to the name Fís Nua (New Vision) and this other grouping do not. They have not responded to our attempts to get together to compromise or collaborate, in fact they have responded with a bullying attitude and obfuscation. They need to desist from using the name immediately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    On the Official Oireachtas Website it seems far from clear, but it does look like if your application had been granted 3 days earlier you would been in the clear.

    View the Register of Political Parties
    [Please note this is the Register in force for the forthcoming General Election to be held on 25th February 2011]
    View the Register of Political Parties 8/2
    [Please note that this latest version of the Register is not the Register in force for the General Election to be held on 25th February 2011]

    http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/tdssenators/registerofpoliticalparties/

    TBH , I had never heard of your group myself until around 10 days ago and I thought it was a republican grouping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,283 ✭✭✭✭Scofflaw


    CDfm wrote: »
    On the Official Oireachtas Website it seems far from clear, but it does look like if your application had been granted 3 days earlier you would been in the clear.




    http://www.oireachtas.ie/parliament/tdssenators/registerofpoliticalparties/

    TBH , I had never heard of your group myself until around 10 days ago and I thought it was a republican grouping.

    They haven't really had any presence on Boards (unlike, say, Amhran Nua), but politics.ie has generally tracked their movements for at least the last year or so since their inaugural meeting at the Teacher's Club. Obviously if one is a Green, one is more likely to have noticed them, since elements of their founding membership would have been Greens upset with the actions of the party in coalition.

    I have to say I strongly regret that the rather sudden election has caught quite a few new political groupings and movements on the hop. I wish them all the best in the election, but rather more I wish them all the best in continuing after the election whatever their success in this rather too brief window of public attention.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    Perhaps Eamonn Blaney could rename his party Ré Nua (New Era).


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 318 ✭✭brendankelly


    He will loose a lot of votes if he does not distance himself from Mc Guirk.

    Naturally he would want to link himself to a new and energetic party Like Fis Nua. with a proper manifesto and real proposals on job creation etc etc. I had to laugh when the lady was telling about an area in Spain that had adopted Local Agenda 21 with very little unemployment etc, etc . Mc Guirk attacked her. Her mouth just opened and she was speechless.

    http://fisnua.com


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    He will loose a lot of votes if he does not distance himself from Mc Guirk.

    Naturally he would want to link himself to a new and energetic party Like Fis Nua. with a proper manifesto and real proposals on job creation etc etc. I had to laugh when the lady was telling about an area in Spain that had adopted Local Agenda 21 with very little unemployment etc, etc . Mc Guirk attacked her. Her mouth just opened and she was speechless.

    http://fisnua.com

    Well he didn't let her finish and then he went on talking about carbon tax? and the what innovations had come from that area of Spain. Any innovation from Ireland? I assume we are talking about Katheleen Lynch on VB Tonight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Well I heard Eamonn on Newstalk tonight and he held his own around some very simple economic policies.

    He did some maths.

    He made a very good point that Angela Merkel will be facing her own electorate a/k/a the bondholders.

    He also said that the unions do not represent the unemployed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭AvaKinder


    Mr. Blaney finally responded to one of my emails :
    Dear ,

    I am running for election because we are in the midst of a National Emergency. Your questions are related to matters of conscience.

    Where do you stand on the issue of priests not being charged with rape?

    I don't believe that any religion has a monopoly on God and the State shouldn't either.

    Eamonn

    Sent on the 'Hoof' :-).

    Ph +353 (0)872-106-400
    www.CringeFactor.com
    www.eamonnblaney.com
    Skype eamonnablaney


    On 18 Feb 2011, at 15:08,

    > From:
    > Subject:
    >
    > Message Body:
    > I have attempted to contact you twice already to recieve answer to my questions.
    >
    > My household has three members, all registered to vote. If we don't recieve an answer from you when you are attempting to be elected how can we expect adequete representation once you're in office?
    >
    > Please answer the following questions so we can make an informed decision at the polls.
    >
    > Can you please clarify your position on the introduction of civil marriage (not civil partnership) and adoption rights for gay couples and non biological same sex partners? Will you support the abolition of section 37?
    >
    > Also, will you make it a priority to push any Government for legislation regarding the X Case ruling?
    >
    > I would also be interested in hearing your position on the possible re-introduction of fees for 3rd level in Ireland, the provision of secular primary education for students and the new minimum wage.
    >






    Not particularly helpful IMO.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭NewVision


    Scofflaw wrote: »
    They haven't really had any presence on Boards (unlike, say, Amhran Nua), but politics.ie has generally tracked their movements for at least the last year or so since their inaugural meeting at the Teacher's Club. Obviously if one is a Green, one is more likely to have noticed them, since elements of their founding membership would have been Greens upset with the actions of the party in coalition.

    I have to say I strongly regret that the rather sudden election has caught quite a few new political groupings and movements on the hop. I wish them all the best in the election, but rather more I wish them all the best in continuing after the election whatever their success in this rather too brief window of public attention.

    cordially,
    Scofflaw


    You are getting it quite straight, Scofflaw. The reason why I stopped posting here and getting FÍS NUA more known to the people was getting banned two times for (IMO) minor issues.

    But don't you worry. E.g. Politics.ie have not accepted FÍS NUA as a legitimate party yet (but they have never banned me from their forum).

    I believe in evolution. So even if FÍS NUA hasn't come out with candidates in every single constituency (keep in mind that the official spark of getting a party was just in September 2010) we are now part of a change in Irish politics. Rome wasn't built in one day. And the need for as sustainable future does much too often vanish behind popular demands.

    After that disaster with the "Green" Party it was more than overdue to create an alternative, an alternative to the 'established' parties and an alternative to the "Greens".

    Just to give you back a little bit of a taste of my own political history and how I was feeling more than a year ago here is my open letter to John Gormley concerning the disassociation of the Donegal Greens of the "Green" Party Ireland.

    If you are familiar with the (so called) principles of the "Green" Party you will find now why every new member of FÍS NUA has to sign for our Principles when joining our party.

    We just haven't lost faith in the believe that a sustainable society is possible and of course this has to be "green" (if you will). We believe in a New Vision for a sustainable future


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    AvaKinder wrote: »
    Mr. Blaney finally responded to one of my emails :



    Not particularly helpful IMO.

    It is a cryptic political answer and your question are on a very specific issue.

    Somehow I dont think you were expecting an answer and he wasm't willing to get entrapped into giving you one.



    @newvision I have enjoyed reading your & Mary Attenboroughs posts and while I may not agree with you politically I have learned more about your policies here than elsewhere. I think you have articulated them well and you do come across as nice people too. After reading your letter to John Gormley I am a lot more informed and found myself thinking "yes he has a point here". You haven't converted me but you have made me more open minded to Fis Nua :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭AvaKinder


    CDfm wrote: »
    It is a cryptic political answer and your question are on a very specific issue.

    Somehow I dont think you were expecting an answer and he wasm't willing to get entrapped into giving you one.

    I'm not sure why you think I wasn't really expecting an answer.

    I sent the same list of questions to Jimmy Guerin, Raymond Sexton, and Brian Greene and got a fairly clear response from Greene and Guerin, while Sextons response was very wishy washy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    Political hot potato on the same sex marriage and adoption.

    I would love to see the responses you got.

    I am curious why you didn't email all the candidates as that would seem fairer ?

    Here they are

    http://www.thejournal.ie/election-candidates-2011/dublin-north-east/

    It would be very interesting to see what kind of responses you would get from those leading the polls :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭NewVision


    CDfm wrote: »
    @newvision I have enjoyed reading your & Mary Attenboroughs posts and while I may not agree with you politically I have learned more about your policies here than elsewhere. I think you have articulated them well and you do come across as nice people too. After reading your letter to John Gormley I am a lot more informed and found myself thinking "yes he has a point here". You haven't converted me but you have made me more open minded to Fis Nua :)

    Thank you for your open minded comment, CDfm.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 Eamonn Blaney


    NewVision wrote: »
    Fact is that those 'New Vision' people have stolen the name from FÍS NUA, a party that exists since last summer and is now registered for all Irish and European elections.

    Mr. Blaney submitted an application form dated 26th January 2011 to register the business name "NewVision" and stated on the application form that the nature of the business being carried on under that name was "Promotions". He did not include any reference in his application to "Political Party".

    Maybe they should have googled before claiming the name of an already existing party. Not a good "promotion".

    Ja'sus wept! What will it take for you to understand the following FACTS? ;

    1. New Vision & Newvision.ie are registered trademarks and names belonging to me.

    2. New Vision (as the name suggests) is a new way of doing politics in Ireland. We agree on a number of issues that are of critical strategic importance to our Country and also agree to vote accordingly.

    3. NewVision.ie is in the business of information collation, dissemination and distribution. We have never claimed to be a political party.

    4. When I thought of the name and checked if the URL was available, there was no mention of any other 'New Vision' either online or registered with the Companies Registration Office.

    Now, is that clear enough ?

    Eamonn Blaney

    Dublin North East, Me Bollix!

    http://www.EamonnBlaney.com


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9 Dr Mary Attenborough


    Ja'sus wept! What will it take for you to understand the following FACTS? ;

    1. New Vision & Newvision.ie are registered trademarks and names belonging to me.

    2. New Vision (as the name suggests) is a new way of doing politics in Ireland. We agree on a number of issues that are of critical strategic importance to our Country and also agree to vote accordingly.

    3. NewVision.ie is in the business of information collation, dissemination and distribution. We have never claimed to be a political party.

    4. When I thought of the name and checked if the URL was available, there was no mention of any other 'New Vision' either online or registered with the Companies Registration Office.

    Now, is that clear enough ?

    Eamonn Blaney

    I have already replied at length on this point.
    See http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=70607866&postcount=29

    You have only registered a business name. That allows you to trade as New Vision (e.g. you could open an opticians) not operate as a political grouping using the name. Business name registration does not authorise the use of the name if its use could be prohibited for other reasons.

    In this case use of the name 'New Vision' by any other grouping in the election is prohibited because we have officially registered our political party Fís Nua with the Registrar of Political Parties (who is also the Clerk of the Dáil). Fís Nua translates to New Vision in English. We registered in the Irish version of the name as Irish is the first language of the state.

    Basically you should have looked at the register of political parties, or any pending registrations, not in Company Registrations Office (CRO), to see if the name would be allowed. Fianna Fail, Fine Gael and the Labour Party are not registered as businesses either with the CRO. Exactly because it is the wrong place to register political groupings.

    You do not have a registered trade mark. I have also checked for the registered trademark listings. Perhaps you would like to tell us your trade mark registration number? Even if you had it would not be relevant as trade marks are used for commercial purposes. There is no trademark classification for political parties.

    We have asked you repeatedly to stop using the name 'New Vision' as you have not right to use the name for your unregistered group of independents.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭AvaKinder


    CDfm wrote: »
    Political hot potato on the same sex marriage and adoption.

    I would love to see the responses you got.

    I am curious why you didn't email all the candidates as that would seem fairer ?


    I didn't ask all the candidates as the main/large parties are all fairly clear on their stance on most of the issues I asked about. The candidates I emailed were the ones I know very little about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,649 ✭✭✭✭CDfm


    AvaKinder wrote: »
    I didn't ask all the candidates as the main/large parties are all fairly clear on their stance on most of the issues I asked about. The candidates I emailed were the ones I know very little about.

    That answers that question & I am no clearer where they stand or you stand from your answer.

    On the issue of Family Law, non of the political parties have tackled the unfair treatment of men even though it is supposedly the case at law, so, I doubt any of the major paties are in any way commited to policies on same sex marriage or adoption.

    I just can't see it being up on their list of priorities.

    I have to agree with Eamonn Brady here that some issues are matters of conscience and the adoption of party political adversorial politics on these issues is a bit beyond me.

    I heard him on radio - but how did he perform on the box



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 271 ✭✭AvaKinder


    I'm not sure what you mean by not being clear on my stance?

    Anywho, here are the responses I recieved :

    Raymond Sexton, Ind:
    Jacqueline,

    • Everyone should be able to live a life of liberty and the pursuit of happiness thus I am very positive towards resolving all issues affecting the LGBT while ensuring we do not infringe anyone elses rights. In terms of children: All children should be cherished equally thus there should be no barriers to their wellbeing. In truth I'd like a chance to discuss the details more with a group of interested people. I plan on touring all the Coffee shops in Dublin North East in the next two weeks so if we connect we should have a good debate and then I'm happy to update my Website with my consdered opinion. I'm not a career politician thus I do not have stock answers.
    • In the words of Pearse: Educate that we be free! Education should be free for those that can't afford it and there should be an incremental scale for the better off. I got the Local Authority Grant when I went to UCC and I apprecaited it! I think students need to have open access but they should have some 'skin in the game'. If others re paying for it, they should use the opportunity wisely and work hard and grasp the opportunity.
    • Everything is about choice so we need to provide education with or without an ethos depending on the wishes of the parents.
    • Let's focus on building Enterprise and Jobs and growing revenues and becoming more competitive. The minimum wage should always retain its buying power, I'd rather a reduction in Property Rents which would take the pressure off Employers. The minimum wage was an easy target and should be reversed. Employers should get the saving from the Banks/Landlords/Government etc.
    Regards

    Raymond

    Jimmy Guerin, Ind:
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Hi Jacqueline


    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]If I may because of time constraints I will deal with your queries on a point by point basis [/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]hope this is OK [/FONT]




    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]My name is Jacqueline Murphy and I'm a constituent in the area you are running in. I have a number of issues which I would like to find out your position on in order to make an informed decision on election day.

    As a member of the LGBT community, I am very interested to hear your opinion on the subject of the rights of LGBT people to marry, and to have their families protected under law. Can you please clarify your position on the introduction of civil marriage (not civil partnership) [/FONT]


    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I fully support the rights of all people to choose their partner and their having the right to a civil marriage. I feel it is irrelevant that they are gay are heterosexual . This should not interfere with what I believe is a basic right.[/FONT]




    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]and adoption rights for gay couples and non biological same sex partners? [/FONT]Will you support the abolition of section 37?


    I believe that one a child is being adopted by a loving couple who are suitable for adoption then they should be allowed adopt. I do not believe that the status of the couple is relevant but would feel that there are both gay and heterosexual couples who for one reason or another may not be suitable.
    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]
    [/FONT]





    Also, will you make it a priority to push any Government for legislation regarding the X Case ruling?


    I would push hard that the legislation regarding the x case which has been avoided be implemented. I personally was disturbed at the recent judgement where a critically ill woman had to travel overseas for a termination when it was important to her own health that she be allowed.





    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I would also be interested in hearing your position on the possible re-introduction of fees for 3rd level in Ireland, [/FONT]


    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] have two children attending collage and believe that funding for education is a duty of the state and it should be regarded as strategic investment. No fees should be introduced. [/FONT]






    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]the provision of secular primary education for students [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]I do not understand this question[/FONT]




    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]and the new minimum wage. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]See enclosed policy document where I want it reinstated to previous level [/FONT]




    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sincerely [/FONT]


    [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Jimmy Guerin [/FONT]

    [/FONT]
    And Brian Greene, Socialist Party :
    Hi Jacqueline see answers inline

    Many thanks for the ask, my brevity of answers is because the
    questions are very clear and our position is absolute, no need to flaf
    about with the answers.

    Some LGBT issues covered by the Socialist Party are here
    http://url.ie/96qm particularly this article from 2009
    http://url.ie/96qr

    Thanks for asking, Regards Brian Greene

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    ... --- .-.. .. -.. .- .-. .. - -.--
    Brian Greene
    085 711 6466

    On 18 February 2011 15:06, wrote:
    >
    > My name is Jacqueline Murphy and I'm a constituent in the area you are
    > running in. I have a number of issues which I would like to find out your
    > position on in order to make an informed decision on election day.
    >
    > As a member of the LGBT community, I am very interested to hear your opinion
    > on the subject of the rights of LGBT people to marry, and to have their
    > families protected under law. Can you please clarify your position on the
    > introduction of civil marriage (not civil partnership) and adoption rights
    > for gay couples and non biological same sex partners? Will you support the
    > abolition of section 37?

    Yes I support the right to marry for all people.I think you can get
    married in NI and have it recognised in Republic of Ireland. Irish
    solution to Irish problem. Down with that... full rights now. And with
    regard to employment I would like to see section 37 abolished.

    > Also, will you make it a priority to push any Government for legislation
    > regarding the X Case ruling?

    X case proves that the parties of establishment FG DL Lab & FF all had
    the power to enact legislation after X case but did not. It should be
    a priority after the 1/3 ruling from Europe recently.

    > I would also be interested in hearing your position on the possible
    > re-introduction of fees for 3rd level in Ireland, the provision of secular
    > primary education for students and the new minimum wage.

    These are black & white issues for me so no need to expand or dance
    around the answers.
    Separate church & state.
    Free education for all. paid for by progressive taxes at income source.
    Change minimum wage to reflect inflation. Upward only. Have a maximum
    wage too. Reverse all cuts in minimum wage.

    > Thank You,


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