Man who killed Garda by running him down found not guilty by jury WTF

bigpink

:eek::eek::eek:
http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0204/mccallionr.html

Hopfully he will kill himself with his joyriding or an overdose or out of guilt eating at him

mikom

bigpink wrote: »

Man who killed Garda by running him down found not guilty by jury WTF

Hope I get jury WTF the next time I am up.

Ps. You'll love this then ............

A man arrested after armed gardai fired two shots at a stolen car in Limerick last week has been granted bail at Limerick District Court.

32 year old Noel Price of Kileely Road, Limerick is charged with hijacking the car at the Old Cratloe Road last Thursday.

There were three children in the car when it was taken from outside Woodview Shopping Centre.

Live 95FM's Eric Clarke reports from Limerick District Court...

Garda Neil O'Gorman said Gardai were objecting to bail being granted to the 32 year old accused because of the serious nature of the charge and said there may be further charges in the future.

Solicitor Sarah Ryan said however there was only one charge before the court and Judge Tom O'Donnell said he could only deal with that charge which he described as very serious.

He granted bail on Noel Price's own bond of €200 and an Independent Surety of €2,500 to be approved by the court.

Gardai must also be satisfied that Price is residing at an alternative address outside the Kileely area.

Judge O'Donnell remanded the accused in custody with consent to bail to appear before the court again on February 9th via video link.

http://www.live95fm.ie/news/news-item/bail-granted-to-man-charged-with-hijacking-a-car-on-the-northside-of-the-city/41d372ca-cad9-4280-820e-fc22daad37d7

phasers

But he pleaded guilty

hondasam

This is hard for the family to hear but the jury have made their decision based on the evidence presented to them.

pwd

They decided he didn't mean to hit the guard with the car. Why do you assume he did mean to hit the guard with the car? That's nice that you hope he kills himself based on a vague article about something you know absolutely nothing about.

Kristopherus

Well he'd be no loss IMO:mad::mad::mad:

emanresu

phasers wrote: »

But he pleaded guilty

He pleaded guilty to burglaries.

Kasabian

The Jury aquitted him. They had the evidence to base an opinion.

Sure the AH way , hang him now.

Laisurg

wut? he robbed a car, ran over a guard, pleaded guilty also had previous offences and he was found not guilty? I think i speak for most people here when i say tell me where the jury gets their weed....

phasers

emanresu wrote: »

He pleaded guilty to burglaries.

McGrenaghan, 19, of Gortnathraw, Cashel, Kerrykeel had previously pleaded guilty of dangerous driving causing the death of Garda McCallion, 29 and also stealing a car

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Reminds me of this recent case

In this country, if you want to kill someone and get away with it, use a car.

pwd

phasers wrote: »

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He pleaded guillty to dangerous driving, which resulted in the death of the guard. He didn't plead guilty to hitting him intentionally, which is what he was on trial for.

Charlie.

pwd wrote: »

They decided he didn't mean to hit the guard with the car. Why do you assume he did mean to hit the guard with the car?

involuntary manslaughter: where the accused unintentionally kills the deceased

How can anyone deny that his actions lead to the death of an innocent young man only doing his job! Absolute joke!!

bigpink

pwd wrote: »

They decided he didn't mean to hit the guard with the car. Why do you assume he did mean to hit the guard with the car? That's nice that you hope he kills himself based on a vague article about something you know absolutely nothing about.

I know reading about this waste of space he will be no loss

emanresu

Oh, I missed that bit. So there must have been separate charges and pleas for the dangerous driving and manslaughter.

Edit: This was in reply to post no.10. Forgot to quote it.

steddyeddy

Regards to the young mans family must be a very hard time for them.

Is manslaughter usually attached to dangerous driving charges resulting in death?

he should have at least got some sort of sentence even community service.

edit: he robbed the car and is still on the streets???

even if he didnt mean to kill the man he robbed a car!

pwd

Charlie. wrote: »

involuntary manslaughter: where the accused unintentionally kills the deceased

How can anyone deny that his actions lead to the death of an innocent young man only doing his job! Absolute joke!!

Manslaughter is when a person purposefully harms someone, and accidentally kills them while doing so.

An accident is when a person accidentally harms someone, and they die.

Nobody is arguing that the young man's actions didn't cause the the death of the guard. He pleaded guilty to dangerous driving causing his death.

Funny how you people stayed quiet about the guard who drove down two pedestrians in Limerick recently. Two people were killed in that instance. Do you hope he kills himself too? Maybe you hope he kills himself and the person he cares about most, because two people were killed that time.

hondasam

pwd wrote: »

Manslaughter is when a person purposefully harms someone, and accidentally kills them while doing so.

An accident is when a person accidentally harms someone, and they die.

Nobody is arguing that the young man's actions didn't cause the the death of the guard. He pleaded guilty to dangerous driving causing his death.

Funny how you people stayed quiet about the guard who drove down two pedestrians in Limerick recently. Two people were killed in that instance. Do you hope he kills himself too? Maybe you hope he kills himself and the person he cares about most, because two people were killed that time.

There is no comparison in the two accidents.

bigpink

pwd wrote: »

Manslaughter is when a person purposefully harms someone, and accidentally kills them while doing so.

An accident is when a person accidentally harms someone, and they die.

Nobody is arguing that the young man's actions didn't cause the the death of the guard. He pleaded guilty to dangerous driving causing his death.

Funny how you people stayed quiet about the guard who drove down two pedestrians in Limerick recently. Two people were killed in that instance. Do you hope he kills himself too? Maybe you hope he kills himself and the person he cares about most, because two people were killed that time.

The 2 guys in that case were in the middle of a motorway fighting and the car they were in drove off..thats not normal behaviour

bigpink

pwd wrote: »

Manslaughter is when a person purposefully harms someone, and accidentally kills them while doing so.

An accident is when a person accidentally harms someone, and they die.

Nobody is arguing that the young man's actions didn't cause the the death of the guard. He pleaded guilty to dangerous driving causing his death.

Funny how you people stayed quiet about the guard who drove down two pedestrians in Limerick recently. Two people were killed in that instance. Do you hope he kills himself too? Maybe you hope he kills himself and the person he cares about most, because two people were killed that time.

Why because good people can spot a case of scum a mile away

brianthebard

So those ads were a guy who does drugs, hits a girl and goes to prison lied to us?????? WHAT IS REAL ANY MORE?!"!?!?!?!"£?$"$E!

steddyeddy

bigpink wrote: »

The 2 guys in that case were in the middle of a motorway fighting and the car they were in drove off..thats not normal behaviour

They were still killed

Craebear

Ah c'mon lads, clearly he is a victim of society and had no control over his actions.

hondasam

steddyeddy wrote: »

They were still killed

The were killed accidentally. It's not the same thing as what happened in Donegal, the driver here had a chance to stop and choose not to. He seen the guards on the road.

steddyeddy

hondasam wrote: »

The were killed accidentally. It's not the same thing as what happened in Donegal, the driver here had a chance to stop and choose not to. He seen the guards on the road.

I dont know wheter the people in either case saw the man, all i know was that three men are dead were they shouldnt be.

MagicSean

pwd wrote: »

They decided he didn't mean to hit the guard with the car. Why do you assume he did mean to hit the guard with the car? That's nice that you hope he kills himself based on a vague article about something you know absolutely nothing about.

No. Manslaughter also includes recklessness. So they also decided he wasn't reckless when he steered towards the Garda.

bigpink

steddyeddy wrote: »

I dont know wheter the people in either case saw the man, all i know was that three men are dead were they shouldnt be.

No 1 man doing his duty,the other 2 up too no good

steddyeddy

steddyeddy wrote: »

They were still killed

There is absolutley no comparison between the 2 cases and it is absolutley ridiculous to try to compare them.

That case involved 2 men grappling on the ground on the overtaking lane of a motorway at night being struck by 2 gards coming home from work and apparently driving in a completley legal manner.

This case involves a scummer, escaping after an all night crime spree, driving in a dangerous manner striking and killing a Guard.

No comparison.

steddyeddy

bigpink wrote: »

No 1 man doing his duty,the other 2 up too no good

Three men are dead im not lowering myself by breaking down their right to life based on their last actions

hondasam

steddyeddy wrote: »

I dont know wheter the people in either case saw the man, all i know was that three men are dead were they shouldnt be.

Limerick you had two men on the motorway fighting, driver did not see them on time.

Donegal you had driver in a car with three gardai wearing high vis jackets trying to stop him in a very visible patrol car.

There is no comparison.

bigpink

Poor fella make sure he gets legal aid,free house,benefits shur actually put him on disablity and give him a free travel pass...
Poor 19 year old hes an angel shur

Thats the problem people wont just call the scum out,we have to tip toe round it and give this fcukers chances at every turn

bigpink

steddyeddy wrote: »

Three men are dead im not lowering myself by breaking down their right to life based on their last actions

I do,2 guys fighying in the middle of a motorway and their driver takes off...Their own fault i think

steddyeddy

Deleted User wrote: »

There is absolutley no comparison between the 2 cases and it is absolutley ridiculous to try to compare them.

That case involved 2 men grappling on the ground on the overtaking lane of a motorway at night being struck by 2 gardsmen coming home from work and apparently driving in a completley legal manner.

This case involves a scummerman, escaping after an all night crime spree, driving in a dangerous manner striking and killing a Guardman.

No comparison.

Three men died, to paraphrase a famous epitaph "they were someones darling"

galwayrush

hondasam wrote: »

This is hard for the family to hear but the jury have made their decision based on the evidence presented to them.

Yeah, so from now on, if you kill someone, even a Garda doing his duty, it's ok to run them down by reason of a defence of panicing and trying to escape...:rolleyes:

steddyeddy

bigpink wrote: »

I do,2 guys fighying in the middle of a motorway and their driver takes off...Their own fault i think

yea help yourself mate im not stopping you

steddyeddy

steddyeddy wrote: »

Three men died, to paraphrase a famous epitaph "they were someones darling"

So on the basis that everyone is someone's darling nobody should ever be punished for the crimes they commit? Your argument has gone from being illogical to just downright bizarre.

hondasam

galwayrush wrote: »

Yeah, so from now on, if you kill someone, even a Garda doing his duty, it's ok to run them down by reason of a defence of panicing and trying to escape...:rolleyes:

I don't get the point you are making to me.

steddyeddy

Deleted User wrote: »

So on the basis that everyone is someone's darling nobody should ever be punished for the crimes they commit? Your argument has gone from being illogical to just downright bizarre.

Your retort seems to have joined me in bizaare land , did you not read my earlier post I said the man stole a car forgetting he killed a man. he should have got some sort of sentence.

bigpink

steddyeddy wrote: »

yea help yourself mate im not stopping you

They decide to fight in the middle of a motorway and the car they are travelling in leaves the scene of an accident,sounds like scum to me


So it was the drivers fault they were fighting in road,and nice of the driver to leave the scene

MagicSean

steddyeddy wrote: »

Your retort seems to have joined me in bizaare land , did you not read my earlier post I said the man stole a car forgetting he killed a man. he should have got some sort of sentence.

He'll get sentenced for burglary, stealing the car and dangerous driving causing death. This is most likely the reason the jury found him not guilty of the more serious charge. They most likely believed he would be punished enough. It's one of the flaws with the jury system.

steddyeddy

bigpink wrote: »

They decide to fight in the middle of a motorway and the car they are travelling in leaves the scene of an accident,sounds like scum to me


So it was the drivers fault they were fighting in road,and nice of the driver to leave the scene

I havent a clue who was at fault in either case I just maintain three are dead all of equal importance

steddyeddy

k_mac wrote: »

He'll get sentenced for burglary, stealing the car and dangerous driving causing death. This is most likely the reason the jury found him not guilty of the more serious charge. They most likely believed he would be punished enough. It's one of the flaws with the jury system.

does this happen often?

galwayrush

hondasam wrote: »

I don't get the point you are making to me.

Sorry, didn't mean to direct it to you, you made a valid point and i was just pointing out ( in general) that the jury's decision in this case sends out a very bizzare signal.

cursai

emanresu wrote: »

He pleaded guilty to burglaries.

He also pleaded guilty to dangerous driving causing death and not guilty to manslaughter!

MagicSean

steddyeddy wrote: »

does this happen often?

I've seen it happen a lot.

Conor Bourke

steddyeddy wrote: »

Three men died, to paraphrase a famous epitaph "they were someones darling"

http://www.irishexaminer.com/text/ireland/kfeycwkfqlau/

Mark Farrell- A real darling alright

steddyeddy

steddyeddy wrote: »

Your retort seems to have joined me in bizaare land , did you not read my earlier post I said the man stole a car forgetting he killed a man. he should have got some sort of sentence.

Stealing a car pales in to insignificance compared to killing someone.

He should be going to jail for a very long time for killing that Guard through his wreckless and sellfish actions. Instead he will get a slap on the wrist on some minor theft and dangerous driving charges.

Trying to compare the wreckless actions of this criminal to the accident involving the 2 guards driving home from work in Limerick is nonsensical.

hondasam

steddyeddy wrote: »

I havent a clue who was at fault in either case I just maintain three are dead all of equal importance

I would not disagree with that at all but the guard did get killed on duty.

steddyeddy

k_mac wrote: »

I've seen it happen a lot.

Correct me if im wrong but does this happen much in america, just I never heard of it happening there when i was living there?

steddyeddy

Deleted User wrote: »

Stealing a car pales in to insignificance compared to killing someone.

He should be going to jail for a very long time for killing that Guard through his wreckless and sellfish actions. Instead he will get a slap on the wrist on some minor theft and dangerous driving charges.

Trying to compare the wreckless actions of this criminal to the accident involving the 2 guards driving home from work in Limerick is nonsensical.

Jesus man I didnt originally compare anything it was another poster I was sorry that all men died and expressed outrage that the guy didnt even get a sentence in the original case.

steddyeddy

hondasam wrote: »

I would not disagree with that at all but the guard did get killed on duty.

true it is worse, and indeed sad as he was only doing his job and a young guy with his life ahead of him.