So for a laugh i tried to scan a twenty euro note with an epson scanner ...

LighterGuy

and a security warning came up said "we do not allow the scanning of bank notes" :pac:

wow. never knew they had such security features.

What else am I meant to burn now at parties to be seen as "a crazy fu*ker"

you let me down epson!

thoughts

Basq

Try a coin..

.. Put it in the microwave first to soften it up!

cml387

LighterGuy wrote: »

and a security warning came up said "we do not allow the scanning of bank notes" :pac:

wow. never knew they had such security features.

What else am I meant to burn now at parties to be seen as "a crazy fu*ker"

you let me down epson!

thoughts

I tried someting similar but it came up with a message

"We do not allow the scanning of body parts unless you are Katy Perry"

Sophisticated imaging software or what?

Kimono-Girl

search google image for one and print that!




*says she before going to try scan a €50 in her hp printer*




i tried it, it worked, you lied, i'm a criminal now! :eek:

TeddyTedson

LighterGuy wrote: »

and a security warning came up said "we do not allow the scanning of bank notes" :pac:

wow. never knew they had such security features.

What else am I meant to burn now at parties to be seen as "a crazy fu*ker"

you let me down epson!

thoughts

everything else!?

AnonoBoy

If you try and scan a music CD a message from IMRO comes up.

Kiera

You could try burning yourself. If i saw someone setting themself on fire i'd think they were one crazy mofo (in the St Ita's sense of the word).

KeithM89_old

Why not just try and scan your ass like a normal person??

funk-you

Smash you scanner up for giving you shit.

-Funk

W.Shakes-Beer

smash your face onto the scanner and press "scan"...have a PICASSO!

bonerm

AnonoBoy wrote: »

If you try and scan a music CD a message from IMRO comes up.

It says "why are you still using CD's?"

AnonoBoy

bonerm wrote: »

It says "why are you still using CD's?"

No it's from Sharon Corr.

It says, "Hey, music piracy ain't cool. I mean if you're robbing off a small-time band that I've never heard of it's ok but our record company will make eircom cut you off if you try to rob our music. Also - if you see my brother Jim around will you ask him to please, please start taking his medication again."

LighterGuy

Kimono-Girl wrote: »

.....i tried it, it worked, you lied, i'm a criminal now! :eek:

It worked on a hp printer?!
damn you epson!

Like I could copy it no problem :P (printing while scanning at the same time deal) but scanning it as a file to my pc .. wouldnt let me
damn you epson!

johndoe99

first i heard of that, i tried it on my "Brother DCP130C" and it gets half way through scanning, and then goes to the image, but only half the €20 note is there, it stops at the "20" in 2002 everytime. Must be something embedded in the paper for it to stop at that exact point each time.

alwaysadub

Go burn down Epson then. Obviously!

LighterGuy

johndoe99 wrote: »

first i heard of that, i tried it on my "Brother DCP130C" and it gets half way through scanning, and then goes to the image, but only half the €20 note is there, it stops at the "20" in 2002 everytime. Must be something embedded in the paper for it to stop at that exact point each time.

Its the printing software :P
It has security features built in. Since all bank notes look the same. it can easily detect another being scanned.


damn you epson! :P

Abelloid

Photoshop won't let you edit banknote images either.

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/EURion_constellation

Yes, I have tried..

LighterGuy

JustinOval wrote: »

Photoshop won't let you edit banknote images either.

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/EURion_constellation

Yes, I have tried..

Photoshop too!
Damn you adobe!
:P

RichieC

I tried to scan me b0llocks once and it said the same thing. I think it's the patterns.

Kimono-Girl

LighterGuy wrote: »

Photoshop too!
Damn you adobe!
:P

they are all out to get you,



hide now before its too late

LighterGuy

alwaysadub wrote: »

Go burn down Epson then. Obviously!

I can do one better.
Going to take a picture of me having forced sex with my epson printer and send it to them ... with the caption ... "she loved it"


too far?

messymess

There's probably a software/firmware hack you could get to sort that out. I'd want to do it on pure principal, even with no intention of printing it out and giving it to strippers.

Cantona's Collars

Use monopoly money.

minikin

Interesting but true: commercial laser printers embed a barely visible dot code in each print out - encodes the machines serial number, as well as the date and time of the print... no more anonymously printed anti-government flyers!

bonerm

If you scan zimbabwe notes with adobe there's a a feature that will draw an extra zero on the end to reflect the amount of inflation that has occurred between pressing scan and the image appearing on your screen.

Overature

I did that once a few years back, i got as far as printing it off, but it would only print half of it

Abelloid

minikin wrote: »

Interesting but true: commercial laser printers embed a barely visible dot code in each print out - encodes the machines serial number, as well as the date and time of the print... no more anonymously printed anti-government flyers!

Conspiracy theory, or can this be backed up with evidence?

Hmmm, just found this...

http://www.pcworld.com/article/118664/government_uses_color_laser_printer_technology_to_track_documents.html

LighterGuy

minikin wrote: »

Interesting but true: commercial laser printers embed a barely visible dot code in each print out - encodes the machines serial number, as well as the date and time of the print... no more anonymously printed anti-government flyers!

Wow.
I imagine ink printers must do the same?

StupidLikeAFox

JustinOval wrote: »

Photoshop won't let you edit banknote images either.

http://www.wordiq.com/definition/EURion_constellation

Yes, I have tried..

The urine constellation?

minikin

If you need to scan and print notes - scan them at an angle, add a bit of gaussian blur in photoshop (disrupts the security pattern) then rotate, crop and print.
(only prints if you leave it a bit blurred, rather than trying to resharpen the file)

Wow.
I imagine ink printers must do the same?

I've only ever seen it on our laser machines, never seen it on the inkjets!
They're more concerned with laser printers because of the output, an inkjet couldn't print the same quality two sided on stock which would be light enough to pass for currency.

Conspiracy theory, or can this be backed up with evidence?

No, it's for real... i work at it (printing, not counterfeiting) day in day out

Abelloid

If printers can be tracked in this manner I guess this is **** all use to me...

http://www.dafont.com/ransom-note.font

Gillington

minikin wrote: »

Interesting but true: commercial laser printers embed a barely visible dot code in each print out - encodes the machines serial number, as well as the date and time of the print... no more anonymously printed anti-government flyers!

Someones been watching wayyyyyyy too much CSI

I tried this a few years ago with Photoshop and got this error. Tried Paint Shop Pro 7 and it let me.

Abelloid

Gillington wrote: »

Someones been watching wayyyyyyy too much CSI

This would be laughed at if I saw it on CSI, but it appears to be true! :eek:

http://www.eff.org/wp/investigating-machine-identification-code-technology-color-laser-printers

LighterGuy

JustinOval wrote: »

If printers can be tracked in this manner I guess this is **** all use to me...

http://www.dafont.com/ransom-note.font

this would be my ranSom note:

stevejr

Kimono-Girl wrote: »

search google image for one and print that!




*says she before going to try scan a €50 in her hp printer*




i tried it, it worked, you lied, i'm a criminal now! :eek:

Giz a lend...

Abelloid

LighterGuy wrote: »

this would be my random note:

It's a ransom note you want, there's no money in random notes, you might get laid (doubt it), but won't get rich.

LighterGuy

I hate typos


lol.

minikin

Someones been watching wayyyyyyy too much CSI

Nope, it's fact. (see my last post)

ANother interesting fact about €50 notes that you should try - they have a built in document protection device that means they can't be shredded - go on try shredding one and see what happens!

Abelloid

minikin wrote: »

Nope, it's fact. (see my last post)

ANother interesting fact about €50 notes that you should try - they have a built in document protection device that means they can't be shredded - go on try shredding one and see what happens!

Oooh, must try that.

minikin

actually, you should try it a few times... sometimes there's a delay in sending the 'power off' command back to the satellite if you're indoors.

Gaudizeit

minikin wrote: »

Nope, it's fact. (see my last post)

ANother interesting fact about €50 notes that you should try - they have a built in document protection device that means they can't be shredded - go on try shredding one and see what happens!

this is not exactly true. 1 in 4 notes will shred. So if it happens the first time, you should try a different note and it probably won't happen a 2nd time.


Well you'll obviously be trying a different note. This is too much effort to wum.

damagegt

open the scanner and slowly move turn your face from left toright while moving the scanner across.Ull get some weird **** then.

citizen_p

buy a HP scanner so, I just scaned a 20 and nothing came up

AnonoBoy

Do they honestly think that forgers just scan in notes and print them out again using Epson Scan and Photoshop?

I'd like to think it's slightly more advanced than that.

LighterGuy

minikin wrote: »

I've only ever seen it on our laser machines, never seen it on the inkjets!
They're more concerned with laser printers because of the output, an inkjet couldn't print the same quality two sided on stock which would be light enough to pass for currency.

So basically anyone who wanted to copy a note, either for fun or forgery, is best off doing so with a laser printer?

Thats one thing I dont get tho about the hidden serial number they print on pages. That could only trace the printer back to what store it was shipped to because if you were anyway smart you wouldnt use a credit card to pay for it or buy a printer one day then circulate forged notes the next. Surely if one bought a printer and sat on it for a year there would be no trace back to who bought it as store cctv would be deleted. ...

but even within saying that such countermeasures wouldnt stand up to buying a stolen or second hand printer. Unless hooking it up to the net (recieving updates) could give an assoicated ip address with that printer.

really is csi stuff :P

ringadingding

It's not really for tracing, more as evidence when/if they catch you.
Prove the forgeries came from the machine in your possession.

LighterGuy

AnonoBoy wrote: »

Do they honestly think that forgers just scan in notes and print them out again using Epson Scan and Photoshop?

I'd like to think it's slightly more advanced than that.

You clearly do not use photoshop or have much sense.

If a bank note is to be scanned it would give perfect dimensions and also allow graphics to be touched up with photo editing software. Thats your template right there. To build upon.

You really think someone will hold a note with one hand and create a copy using a mouse with the other hand? :rolleyes:

Johro

Tried it for a laugh huh? :rolleyes:

LighterGuy

Johro wrote: »

Tried it for a laugh huh? :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

congo_90

even using such scanners and printers, i dont think many people have access to the correct paper
I handle alot of money daily and have spotted forged notes. a lotta 10's. if im im doubt i have a counterfeit checker.