Willie Casey-Guillermo Rigondeaux, world title fight

Vintagekits

Hey guys, hows this one going down in Limerick?

finbarrk

Here you go.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056107068

Vintagekits

finbarrk wrote: »

Here you go.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056107068

Yeah, thats the boxing forum. Of course they are going to be excited about.

I am more interested in getting a Limerick perspective.

L.T.P.

Vintagekits wrote: »

Hey guys, hows this one going down in Limerick?

Haven't heard much talk about it at all, they'd want to get a bit of hype going!

finbarrk

It's still over six weeks away.

Vintagekits

finbarrk wrote: »

It's still over six weeks away.

You really are a helpful chap Finbarr! Thank you for all the information you provide.

IN case you missed it there was a press conference in Limerick the other day with the two boxers in attendance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AU221vXHKo8

Jigga

The fight is not being televised even though it is being offered for free to RTE by the fight promoters. Disgraceful!

L.T.P.

Jigga wrote: »

The fight is not being televised even though it is being offered for free to RTE by the fight promoters. Disgraceful!

What? Utter disgrace. A world title fight and they aren't televising? You can be sure if it was a Dublin boxer they'd be televising it.

irishproduce

Why wasn't the fight in America? Rigondeaux mentioned he wished it was there, is it because one must fight in the challengers country that it is in Dublin?

finbarrk

Hey Vintage, I'm on your side. Cool down.

davidmichael

Not televised.....total disgrace, an irishman in a world championship fight?! if it was Bernard Dunne getting knocked on his arse they would show it....although I do think Casey is up against it big time!

Azphyxi8

Jigga wrote: »

The fight is not being televised even though it is being offered for free to RTE by the fight promoters. Disgraceful!

Do you have a source for this?

osarusan

Azphyxi8 wrote: »

Do you have a source for this?

Mentioned in today's Limerick Post. Head of RTE sport Ryle Nugent said it would cost them too much to broadcast it (presumably setting up the studio and getting in analysts). I can't imagine that they'd make less from advertising than it would cost to broadcast though.

Jigga

Azphyxi8 wrote: »

Do you have a source for this?

http://www.irish-boxing.com/stories/january11/jan11_no_tv_for_casey.html

Dolphil and Nowere2Hyde promotions both claim RTE are letting the people of Ireland down by refusing to broadcast the biggest fight the country has seen since Bernard Dunne retired.

It was revealed at the press conference to officially announce Willie Casey's bid to dethrone WBA world interim champion Guillermo Rigondeaux yesterday that the mouth watering clash will not be shown on terrestrial TV.

Sky Sports and Eurosport are leading the race to win the rights for the March 19 world title fight, but both camps claimed they would prefer if the whole of Ireland could tune in to support ’Big Bang’ Casey.

Public service broadcaster RTE can’t afford to air the eagerly anticipated tactician versus brawler showdown despite being offered the card for free.

And Rigondeaux’s manager Gary Hyde claims if they show any other boxing over the next 12 people they National Broadcasters will have serious questions to answer.

“RTE have been offered the fight for free. We are not just here to make money both camps are involved in boxing at every level and we want to promote the game across the country. Willie Casey is a massive name in Ireland now and you cant a bigger fight the a world title bout. Rigondeaux is the biggest star since Sugar Ray Leonard to fight here. The people deserve to get the chance to see it,” Hyde said at yesterday’s press conference.

“This fight will be a war, believe me and one the people will love. If RTE don’t show this fight and show any other boxing over the next 12 months they will have a lot to answer for. This is the biggest fight in Ireland this year and it is free for them. I hope people get onto RTE and they are pressured into taking the fight.”

zuroph

Yet they can afford katherine lynch. shocking.

Azphyxi8

osarusan wrote: »

Mentioned in today's Limerick Post. Head of RTE sport Ryle Nugent said it would cost them too much to broadcast it (presumably setting up the studio and getting in analysts). I can't imagine that they'd make less from advertising than it would cost to broadcast though.

Thanks, it really is a joke that RTE won't show it.

dublinboy76

Jigga wrote: »

The fight is not being televised even though it is being offered for free to RTE by the fight promoters. Disgraceful!

the fight is not being televised by RTE is because willie casey is a traveller that is disgraceful if it was any other irish boxer it would be on

Kess73

Azphyxi8 wrote: »

Thanks, it really is a joke that RTE won't show it.

It is a joke especially when one considers that many of the Andy Lee and Bernard Dunne fights that RTE televised were joke fights in which Lee and Dunne took on very poor fighters.

The Casey-Rigondeaux is a world ranked fight, that is drawing attention abroad, and a fight that will leave the winner in a position to go on to much bigger fights quickly.

Joke of a decision by RTE.

I would lay money that if Bernard Dunne was able to have a comeback fight against some bum next week that RTE would show it and build it up to be some kind of major boxing event.

In some ways I would love to see Willie Casey win it, and then sign a deal with Sky or some other network and not let RTE show any of his future fights.


Just baffling that a talented young Irish fighter fighting in Ireland for the interim WBA World super bantamweight title is not going to be seen by the people of Ireland on the State broadcaster.


Limerick folk and other Irish boxing fans should email the person in Government who is the current spokesperson for Communications, a certain Willie O Dea, as well as emailing RTE to voice their displeasure.

krudler

dublinboy76 wrote: »

the fight is not being televised by RTE is because willie casey is a traveller that is disgraceful if it was any other irish boxer it would be on

They must not have noticed when they televised his last fight.

osarusan

Here's the email address for sports-related queries. As far as I know, they have to reply to every email.

sportonline@rte.ie

kilburn

Just sent RTE sport and Mr Nugent a nice little email regarding this fight. You know if everybody that read this thread sent an email to them who knows?

Ash.J.Williams

krudler wrote: »

They must not have noticed when they televised his last fight.

and a talk show twice in 3 weeks!

stevenforward

i'm hoping to go to big bang's wba fight, but i already have tickets for the rugby ireland v england that day at 5 pm in the aviva.

anyone got any info on the undercard for the fight? i.e. is there many fights before casey's? or wat time will the casey fight be on roughly? doors are advertised to open at 6pm in citywest, so i'm just trying to figure out if i can make the rugby and the fight?

Thanks

DarkJager

Fight will now be shown by RTE.

http://www.rte.ie/sport/boxing/2011/0311/caseyw_limerick.html

RTÉ to screen Willie Casey title fight
Friday, 11 March 2011 12:57
RTÉ Sport has confirmed that it will screen live coverage of Willie 'Big Bang' Casey's WBA World title fight against Guillermo Rigondeaux on Saturday, 19 March.

The bout will be broadcast across RTÉ Two Television, RTÉ Radio and worldwide on RTÉ.ie.

The fight will feature as part of a bumper day of sport broadcast on RTÉ for Irish sports fans with almost 11 hours of coverage across boxing, rugby and soccer.


Ryle Nugent, Group Head RTÉ Sport, said: 'We are delighted to now be in a position to bring the Irish public live coverage of Willie Casey's WBA World title fight.

'This has been made possible by Dolphil Promotions having secured independent finance to cover the associated television production costs.

'It builds on our strong support of Willie's boxing talent which includes our broadcast of his European Super Bantamweight title win last November.

'Added to the coverage of the RBS 6 Nations, including Ireland v England from the Aviva Stadium, and Premier League action on the day, it makes for a compelling free-to-air offering for Irish sports fans.'


Daniel Halpin, Marketing Executive of Dolphil Promotions, said:

'We are delighted that an agreement has been met and the Irish public will be able to watch this historic occasion in the comfort of their homes.

'One of the greatest amateur fighters of all time, Guillermo Rigondeaux, takes on our very own Cinderella man, Willie Casey, and we are very proud that a television deal with RTÉ has come to fruition.'


The action-packed day of top class sport begins with the final day of the RBS 6 Nations featuring a triple header of games including Ireland v England.

The live rugby is followed by live coverage of the Limerick boxer's challenge for World title glory and the day is rounded off on RTÉ Television with the latest top-flight Premier League action immediately afterwards in Premier Soccer Saturday.


On RTÉ Television presenter Darragh Maloney will be joined in studio by a panel for expert analysis of all the action on Pro Box Live at 10.00pm on RTÉ Two and RTÉ.ie.

Radio coverage will also begin at 10.00pm on RTÉ Radio 1 FM, LW, DAB and online.

lmao

stevenforward wrote: »

i'm hoping to go to big bang's wba fight, but i already have tickets for the rugby ireland v england that day at 5 pm in the aviva.

anyone got any info on the undercard for the fight? i.e. is there many fights before casey's? or wat time will the casey fight be on roughly? doors are advertised to open at 6pm in citywest, so i'm just trying to figure out if i can make the rugby and the fight?

Thanks

Looks like Casey vs Rigondeux is scheduled for 22:10 on Saturday night.

http://www.paddypower.com/bet/boxing

Hope this helps.

Ash.J.Williams

dublinboy76 wrote: »

the fight is not being televised by RTE is because willie casey is a traveller that is disgraceful if it was any other irish boxer it would be on

i doubt it, he's been on RTE more times outside the ring than Bernard Dunne!

Mr.Conners

All the best to Willie Casey tomorrow night. No doubt he will give his all and do the people of Limerick proud.

Bodhisopha

No disrespect to Willy, but he is going to get his arse handed to him tomorrow. This guy is serious business.

earnan mcnulty

hey there,
can anyone tel me what pub i could find the big bang fight in london. ere for wkend n gona flip if i dont c it. dont wanna watch it on the net. its jus not the same thing. im in the sout west.
please help me

slapbangwallop

sioda

Jesus that was a short one

Bodhisopha

Huge mismatch. He had no business sharing a ring with that dude.

He'll come again though, it wasn't a prolonged beating. Chin up and all that.

Denners

A problem with some members of Willies family shouldn't reflect on him if he wasn't involved.

Melion

What a joke of a thread this is. Irish begrudgery at its very best

phog

Boxing wouldnt be a sport that I'd follow but I really felt sorry for Willie last night, listening to the panel before the fight I got the impression that it was too soon for Willie to be stepping into a World Title fight and as it turned out that's the way it was but in fairness to Willie I thought he gave a good interview with RTE immediately after the fight.

Well done Wille, hopefully, you'l have another day.

eco2live

I have removed my comment as this thread was about an individual and not his supporters and on reflection it was not fair on Willie who I do wish all the best.

Kess73

Some of the comments directly about Willie on this thread are a disgrace.

I can understand it towards some of his relatives, the ones who commited the crimes mentioned, but the bile being directed towards Willie is wrong.


And as for the guy who passed the comment on the great fans. Well the majority of the crowd were not related to Willie, so all they showed up was the great band wagon type sports fan that Limerick and Ireland is full of.

If a person or team are winning, then the "fans" flock to show up, just as they have done for Munster in the past, the minute things don't go so well, the great Limerick and Irish support looks for a new thing to claim to be a great supporter of.

Thankfully Munster and and other teams/individuals in Ireland have a hard core of great support to rely on, and the big crowds of no nowts can go jump on another band wagon.

Melion

eco2live wrote: »

I don't think that people can be called begrudgers. Sometimes people get sick of travelers behavior. Now they will be called racists. A racist is a somebody who is prejudice against a race because of their skin color or background. In travelers cases people don't like them because of their behavior not their color. They are the aggressors in most situation. In the cinema in shops, chippers, restaurants, pubs they go around abusing people and getting in their face. Can people be blamed for not liking this? You cant say anything to them or you are in for trouble.

Not all are bad of course but even the best of them don't contribute anything to the state.

If people have been a victim of the casey family then why should they be aloud to put their case online. I for one would never support a rapist in any case and if anyone in my family was a rapist then they would not be welcome anywhere near me in the future.

Willie seems like an nice bloke from the interviews I have seen and heard but most of the comments have been about his supporters and are justified

What has any of that got to do with Willie?

Kess73

eco2live wrote: »

I don't think that people can be called begrudgers. Sometimes people get sick of travelers behavior. Now they will be called racists. A racist is a somebody who is prejudice against a race because of their skin color or background. In travelers cases people don't like them because of their behavior not their color. They are the aggressors in most situation. In the cinema in shops, chippers, restaurants, pubs they go around abusing people and getting in their face. Can people be blamed for not liking this? You cant say anything to them or you are in for trouble.

Not all are bad of course but even the best of them don't contribute anything to the state.
If people have been a victim of the casey family then why should they be aloud to put their case online. I for one would never support a rapist in any case and if anyone in my family was a rapist then they would not be welcome anywhere near me in the future.

Willie seems like an nice bloke from the interviews I have seen and heard but most of the comments have been about his supporters and are justified

Define contributing to the State?

Do you mean by having a job and paying taxes? Well Willie was doing that before turning pro as a boxer. He worked as a welder and has held other jobs when younger. He was not a dole scrounger. So he paid his taxes and did contribute.

As a pro boxer his earnings are also taxed and he pays what is meant to be paid on his earnings.


Maybe you mean in things like putting kids through school? Yep he is doing that as well.

Maybe you mean it as in having a house and paying bills and buying things in shops? yep he is doing that as well.

Maybe you mean by keeping his nose clean and not getting involved in criminal stuff? Yep he ticks that box as well.

So please enlighten me what he could do that would be contributing to the State and be sure to point out the things that you are doing to contribute that differs from him. Because if people are going to slag off an individual, they should have their facts spot on for the individual and not try to tar him with what others have done.

Because if all individuals are to be tarred by the actions of current or past relatives, or current or past friends, then pretty much everyone is going to have something pop up, maybe even stuff they were unaware of.

eco2live

Melion wrote: »

What has any of that got to do with Willie?

I take your point and I was supporting Willie myself. Maybe the supporter point is better made on another thread. It is not fair on Willie.

eco2live

I was not talking about Willie. He seems like a decent sort. I can't disagree with the content of your post except to say that I was not talking about an individual. I wish him well as an individual and this thread is not the best place to discuss that so I will leave it at that. It must be a pain in the arse for him to have this dragged up all the time.

I would appreciate it if the people who quoted me would delete my comments so as not to distract from the original thread.

And I do think that he took the fight too soon but he will be back again. It has raised his profile and I wish him well.

Kess73

eco2live wrote: »

I was not talking about Willie. He seems like a decent sort. I can't disagree with the content of your post except to say that I was not talking about an individual but the contribution of travelers and their impact on society. I wish him well as an individual and this thread is not the best place to discuss that so I will leave it at that.

Really you were not talking about Willie at all? In a thread that was about the fight he was in?


Then why make this comment?

eco2live wrote: »

Not all are bad of course but even the best of them don't contribute anything to the state.

Seems to me that with that comment you tarred Willie with the same brush as all the others you were commenting on. After all according to you none of "them" contribute to the state, not some of them contribute nothing.
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eco2live

Read my posts again. I have deleted my comments so as not to tarnish Willie and I agree with you. If you post quotes of my comments then you are dragging it up. I will leave it at that. Delete the quotes and forget about it.

osarusan

This thread is about the Casey vs Rigondeaux fight. Comments should be limited to that.

I've never heard about Willie Casey being convicted of rape, nor has he himself even been accused of it on this thread, as far as I can see.

There is no such thing as guilt by association, and in my opinion this thread isn't the place to bring up wrongs done by people other than Willie himself.

cruiser178

Could you find me a link online to where its alleged that Willie Casey raped someone

Where did i say willy casey raped anyone but his brothers did,i personally know 2 victims.Here have a read of this and tell me willy can sleep happily in his bed at night knowing his family are saints.

http://bocktherobber.com/2006/10/limerick-travellers-protest

Kess73

osarusan wrote: »

This thread is about the Casey vs Rigondeaux fight. Comments should be limited to that.

I've never heard about Willie Casey being convicted of rape, nor has he himself even been accused of it on this thread, as far as I can see.

There is no such thing as guilt by association, and in my opinion this thread isn't the place to bring up wrongs done by people other than Willie himself.

Spot on.


In my opinion those guilty of the crimes mentioned in this thread should never see the light of day again, but the stuff being said about Willie in this thread since he lost the fight last night is just wrong.

Willie has no choice in who he is related to, and to condemn him for being related to some of the scum that commited those acts is wrong.

I wonder what comments would have been on this thread if he had won last night?

No doubt this thread would have come to life in a big way with loads of "well done Willie" or "he did Limerick proud" from the bandwagon types that have been missing on the thread since he lost.


Those of you on here that have been directly affected by the animals who committed those unforgiveable acts are right to be angry, but you are not right to vent it at a person who did not commit those acts and who was not involved in them.

The man has distanced himself from certain elements of his family, and has no involvement in their criminal activities, but he can do nothing about being related to them.

He has spoken out many times about the importance of education and working for a living, but he cannot force his views onto those that persist on being career criminals and career scum.


The man lost last night to a superior boxer. The questions today should be about things like what is his level and where will he go from now, and not ignorant comments like those from the people that have called him scum and worse on this thread.

Melion

cruiser178 wrote: »

Could you find me a link online to where its alleged that Willie Casey raped someone

Where did i say willy casey raped anyone but his brothers did,i personally know 2 victims.Here have a read of this and tell me willy can sleep happily in his bed at night knowing his family are saints.

http://bocktherobber.com/2006/10/limerick-travellers-protest

He cant choose his family. Should he not be respected even more for getting away from things like that and living a better, crime-free life than some of his family members?

cruiser178

Kess73 wrote: »

So the fact that the man has distanced himself from a lot of his relatives, and has no contact al all with many means he is running with the pack.:rolleyes:

ffs keep rambling there why dont you.Bottom line,people who think willy did great for this city will agree with your posts but the victims of the caseys will agree with mine,lets hope you and your family are never their victims or YOU will have a different tune to sing.

bernardo mac

I certainly do not begrudge Willie's success and I do admire the way in which he responded to the defeat last night.He is a true sportsman and I wish him well. He is a great and brave boxer and I believe a committed family man but he did meet a superior and highly skilled and experienced opponent. A much needed role model in a benighted and beleaguered city

Kess73

cruiser178 wrote: »

ffs keep rambling there why dont you.Bottom line,people who think willy did great for this city will agree with your posts but the victims of the caseys will agree with mine,lets hope you and your family are never their victims or YOU will have a different tune to sing.

No, people with enough about them not to blame a man who had nothing to do with the crimes for what happened may agree with me.


Blame Willie all you want. That is your choice, but I think you are wrong to do so, but I do hope that those that committed acts against your family/friends meet a fate worse than they inflicted upons yours.


I have had experiences of the Caseys since I came back to Limerick, and as I posted on here a few years back, I ended up moving house after where I worked pressed charges on two Caseys as my house and car windows were smashed on a regular basis after that, and I lived nowhere near where any of them lived so they had to make an effort to come and do it.

The fact that I did not have a Limerick accent seemed to spur them on more than the fact I stood in court as a witness against them, but I would do the same again

It is nowhere near the level of abuse and fear that your family/friends had put upon them, but I am not oblivious to certain elements of that family, and I don't hold it against Willie for what they did to my property, but I certainly hold a serious level of resentment towards those that came at me.

Clareman

This thread has descended to levels of bigotry/false/unproven allegations/personal attacks and I am very tempted to to lock it, but I've deleted a lot of disgusting posts and will allow the thread to stay open.

Labeling someone due to their ethnic background or spouting wild allegations of a serious criminal nature will lead to a ban, I haven't banned anyone from this thread, but they will be coming soon.