Paugeot 508

Satanta · 01-02-2011 2:19pm #1

Anyone any idea when these will be available in Ireland? Looks like a nice car.

colm_mcm · 01-02-2011 2:56pm

The 200hp diesel hybrid looks promising alright.

Satanta · 01-02-2011 3:07pm

forgot to attach pic

crosstownk · 01-02-2011 4:28pm

My local Peugeot dealer told me it is expected in April. This was back in December so I'm it may have changed.

vectra · 01-02-2011 5:05pm

I like the looks of it as well..Was having a look and a chat about iy with my wife actually
Would like to see more info about them

mickdw · 01-02-2011 5:18pm

Looks very well. Interior looks reasonable too. Should sell pretty well

Tea 1000 · 01-02-2011 5:27pm

Decent looking car, and if the reviews are correct, then it's a welcome return to form for Peugeot. I hope it does well.

vectra · 01-02-2011 7:18pm

Tea 1000 wrote: »

Decent looking car, and if the reviews are correct, then it's a welcome return to form for Peugeot. I hope it does well.

Do you have a link to the reviews please?

pburns · 01-02-2011 7:38pm

Yeah but all the ones brought into Ireland will be boggo-spec 110bhp 1.6ds. The 200bhp diesel will be rare as hens teeth and salesproof. Probably...

coolbeans · 01-02-2011 8:46pm

Hopefully it'll be a return to form for the Lion. I was a big fan of Pugs until the arrival of the 307, 407, 207...basically all the ugly and temperamental ones. I still wanna know what drugs lead the designer to think that this looked good.

crosstownk · 01-02-2011 8:52pm

pburns wrote: »

Yeah but all the ones brought into Ireland will be boggo-spec 110bhp 1.6ds.

I'd imagine that GDL will bring in some 2.0HDI 160bhp as found in the RCZ and the Citroen C5 Exclusive.

Atlantic Dawn · 01-02-2011 8:54pm

Not sure when it's coming here or what spec will be available but the uk site has a build area where you can run through the specs available, seems to be only 1 diesel engine...
http://www.peugeot.co.uk/vehicles/peugeot-car-range/peugeot-508/build-price/

benj · 02-02-2011 7:04am

Satanta wrote: »

forgot to attach pic

Anyone thinks it looks like a Passat?

vectra · 02-02-2011 7:34am

benj wrote: »

Anyone thinks it looks like a Passat?

Cross between a C5 and Passat I thought.

CompleteCarGuy · 02-02-2011 10:26am

I'm driving it next week. Will let you know how it is. It's in dealers in March as a demo and April on sale. Paddy Comyn

Satanta · 02-02-2011 4:47pm

CompleteCarGuy wrote: »

I'm driving it next week.

How did you swing that?

Tea 1000 · 02-02-2011 5:43pm

vectra wrote: »

Do you have a link to the reviews please?

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Peugeot-508-2.2-HDi-204-GT/254927/

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Peugeot-508-1.6-e-HDi-112-Active/255139/

CompleteCarGuy · 02-02-2011 6:05pm

Satanta wrote: »

How did you swing that?

I am a motoring journalist - going to the European press event

ThisRegard · 02-02-2011 9:07pm

Satanta wrote: »

How did you swing that?

Did you not recognise his name ?

J77 · 02-02-2011 9:28pm

CompleteCarGuy wrote: »

I am a motoring journalist - going to the European press event

You're inviting a barrage of motoring questions upon yourself by revealing your identity Paddy!

I've been in the 3008 and I thought it was quite nice. Good to see the brand coming along.

Ricardo G · 02-02-2011 10:26pm

Front end looks very much like the new scirocco

Bodhan · 02-02-2011 10:47pm

Just spotted this thread, I'm going to that 508 press launch myself I'll bring you back something nice if your good while I'm away!

CompleteCarGuy · 03-02-2011 8:58am

J77 wrote: »

You're inviting a barrage of motoring questions upon yourself by revealing your identity Paddy!

I've been in the 3008 and I thought it was quite nice. Good to see the brand coming along.

Ha, that's no problem. That's why CompleteCar.ie is there. Anyone can write in and ask questions for free. The Peugeot brand has really improved massively of late. Their quality is really impressive now.

CompleteCarGuy · 03-02-2011 9:01am

Bodhan wrote: »

Just spotted this thread, I'm going to that 508 press launch myself I'll bring you back something nice if your good while I'm away!

Ah I know you now!

CompleteCarGuy · 08-02-2011 9:21am

http://www.completecar.ie/news/article/632/Peugeot-508-to-cost-from-24850

Peugeot's forthcoming 508 will cost from €24,850 when it goes on sale in Ireland in April. The car will be available as a saloon and SW from launch, with three trim levels offered: Access, Active and Allure. Standard equipment will include ESP, ASR, hill assist, driver, passenger and curtain airbags, air conditioning, front and rear electric windows, a full size spare wheel and front fog lamps.

The Active model gains rear parking aid, automatic wipers and headlights, Bluetooth, cruise control and speed limiter, leather steering wheel, electrochrome rear view mirror, electric child locks, electric lumbar adjustment, bi-zone climate control, electric folding door mirrors and 17" alloys with anti-theft wheel nuts.

The top of the range Allure model gains keyless entry, full leather upholstery, front parking sensors, electric parking brake, electric / heated front seats, front and rear carpet mats and 18" alloys.

There will be a choice of four diesel engines, starting with a 1.6 e-HDi with 112hp and Stop/Start technology, a standard 1.6 HDi with 112hp, a 2.0-litre HDi with 140hp and a 2.0-litre HDI with 163hp.

Level 1: ACCESS

508 1.6 HDi 112bhp ACCESS: €24,850

508 1.6 HDi 112bhp Bluetooth ACCESS: €25,150

508 1.6 eHDI 112bhp Eco ACCESS: €26,450

Level 2: ACTIVE

508 1.6 HDi 112bhp ACTIVE: €27,300

508 1.6 eHDi 112bhp Eco ACTIVE: €28,600

508 2.0 HDi 140bhp ACTIVE: €29,100

508 SW 1.6 HDi 112bhp ACTIVE: €28,800

508 SW 2.0 HDi 140bhp ACTIVE: €30,600

Level 3: ALLURE

508 2.0 HDi 140bhp ALLURE: €32,550

508 2.0 HDi 163bhp Automatic ALLURE: €35,150

Leonard Hofstadter · 08-02-2011 10:25am

Have you driven it yet Paddy?

Autocar were making big play of the fact that Peugeot chose to retain hydraulic power steering for the car and that it is a welcome return to the Peugeots of old, who used to make great drivers cars.

Certainly I've noticed how there is a lot of praise for how the 3008 and 5008 drive (and of course the RCZ) - they're meant to be much more like how a Pug should drive than most Pugs over the past 10 years.

CompleteCarGuy · 08-02-2011 11:03am

I'm at Dublin Airport. Driving it later today!

CompleteCarGuy · 09-02-2011 7:59am

My Times review -

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/motors/2011/0209/1224289333709.html

CompleteCar.ie review later

Paddy

CompleteCarGuy · 09-02-2011 6:03pm

CompleteCar.ie Review is up too

P

http://www.completecar.ie/testdrives/article/Peugeot/null/508/414/637

Raskolnikov · 09-02-2011 6:38pm

Is this model only available in diesel?

coolbeans · 09-02-2011 6:48pm

captainspeed wrote: »

Have you driven it yet Paddy?

Autocar were making big play of the fact that Peugeot chose to retain hydraulic power steering for the car and that it is a welcome return to the Peugeots of old, who used to make great drivers cars.

Certainly I've noticed how there is a lot of praise for how the 3008 and 5008 drive (and of course the RCZ) - they're meant to be much more like how a Pug should drive than most Pugs over the past 10 years.

The Pugs of the last ten years made me cry they were so awful. Their only redeeming features were the diesels but the grinning pudding styling and the poor driving characteristics shamed this previously great marque.

VolvoMan · 09-02-2011 7:27pm

Peugeot seem to be shamelesly copying VAG interiors these days:

The steering wheel and dashboard are also identical to the Superb's:

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CompleteCarGuy · 09-02-2011 7:32pm

There are petrol models in other markets but Ireland isn't taking them. 1.6 (150hp) turbo.

Bodhan · 09-02-2011 9:03pm

Great handling car, in 2.2 hdi its quick enough too. The 2.0hdi manual is nice, I loved the looks of the SW (estate) it's a really handsome car I made a video so I'll put that up tomorrow.
Paddy's review is bang on, there's too many buttons everywhere.

Tragedy · 10-02-2011 5:53am

VolvoMan wrote: »

Peugeot seem to be shamelesly copying VAG interiors these days:

The steering wheel and dashboard are also identical to the Superb's:

I can't see a single similiarity between the passat and the 508 pic, unless you mean the seats in which case there are tens of cars with similar designs.

All the 508 and the superb share is a chromed U. That's it.

Straws and reaching for?

VolvoMan · 10-02-2011 7:47pm

Tragedy wrote: »

I can't see a single similiarity between the passat and the 508 pic, unless you mean the seats in which case there are tens of cars with similar designs.

All the 508 and the superb share is a chromed U. That's it.

Straws and reaching for?

Just look at the design of the sill top of the door trim, it's bloody identical.

This isn't the first VAG interior Peugeot have copied:

2010+peugeot+3008.interior.jpg

You'd expect better from a brand with so much history (404, 504, 505 etc.) than this.

Tragedy · 11-02-2011 5:37am

VolvoMan wrote: »

Just look at the design of the sill top of the door trim, it's bloody identical.

This isn't the first VAG interior Peugeot have copied:

You'd expect better from a brand with so much history (404, 504, 505 etc.) than this.

It's completely different. I can find one similarity between the two. I tried circling every difference, but it ended up farcical as all you could see were circles on circles on circles.

Let's look at the doors:
Door handles in different positions, different windows, different mirrors in different positions, speaker in different positions, handle in different positions(does the VAG have one?), the pocket is different shape and size. The one vague similarity is that they're both two tone with a sweeping line leading down, but my 10 year old car has the same design - so it's not something only VAG do.

I could continue and write on essay on the differences, because they literally have almost nothing in common.

And don't get me started on the 'indentical' ones you linked above :pac:

Zubeneschamali · 11-02-2011 8:51am

They both have steering wheels!

... and, and gear levers!

Bodhan · 11-02-2011 9:08am

Here's a picture of the actual car I drove, it didn't make me think of Volvo.

more pics on the site

R.O.R · 11-02-2011 9:21am

Bodhan wrote: »

Here's a picture of the actual car I drove, it didn't make me think of Volvo.

more pics on the site

I'm getting Mazda / Opel mashup from the side profile estate shot.

What's the seating position like? Still too high, or have they sorted that out?

Bodhan · 11-02-2011 10:22am

R.O.R wrote: »

I'm getting Mazda / Opel mashup from the side profile estate shot.

What's the seating position like? Still too high, or have they sorted that out?

The seats in the press one were electric with loads of movement, fine for the steering wheel but a bit high for the manual box if you know what I mean. Much better than the 407 though

Leonard Hofstadter · 11-02-2011 10:30am

Which of the two chassis set ups is better, or did the press only get to drive the GT spec models with their more sophisticated suspension?

I wonder what the boggo versions are like, it seems clear that the high spec 'GT' chassis is a great drive, but what about the lesser versions, which have MacPherson struts at the front instead of double wishbones fitted to the top line models?

CabanasBoy · 11-02-2011 10:35am

vectra wrote: »

Cross between a C5 and Passat I thought.

Yeah, and throw in more than a hint of Insignia too, nice looking bus though.

Bodhan · 11-02-2011 10:39am

captainspeed wrote: »

Which of the two chassis set ups is better, or did the press only get to drive the GT spec models with their more sophisticated suspension?

I wonder what the boggo versions are like, it seems clear that the high spec 'GT' chassis is a great drive, but what about the lesser versions, which have MacPherson struts at the front instead of double wishbones fitted to the top line models?

We took the GT one for a spin in the hills, its very flat through the corners with no wallow, the steering is sharp but the gearbox was set up for fuel saving so it was a bit slow on the kick down.
Peugeot, who are into the suspension stuff say the MacPherson is just as good. It was a little more bouncy in the SW version and you'll tell the difference in the corners but not bad all the same. BTW I reckon a 2.2GT Auto here will be over the 40k mark so special order methinks

Stevie Dakota · 11-02-2011 10:53am

Nice interior in that spec alright, wonder how mid range cars will look though in velour, without that screen and all the buttons? Not sure about the styling either, but they had to try something new, look forward to seeing it in the flesh. Still, looks like a big step forward for Pug.

AlanD · 11-02-2011 11:28am

It's interesting that the 1.6 Allure Saloon is more expensive than the 1.6 Allure SW.

VolvoMan · 11-02-2011 4:41pm

Tragedy wrote: »

It's completely different. I can find one similarity between the two. I tried circling every difference, but it ended up farcical as all you could see were circles on circles on circles.

Let's look at the doors:
Door handles in different positions, different windows, different mirrors in different positions, speaker in different positions, handle in different positions(does the VAG have one?), the pocket is different shape and size. The one vague similarity is that they're both two tone with a sweeping line leading down, but my 10 year old car has the same design - so it's not something only VAG do.

I could continue and write on essay on the differences, because they literally have almost nothing in common.

And don't get me started on the 'indentical' ones you linked above :pac:

I'm surprised how you don't see what I see to be honest. I think the interior of the new 508 is a direct mash-up of the Passat and Superb.

Bodhan · 13-02-2011 12:16pm

Here's the video as promised, Still can't embed the video so here's a link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk_er2HR9p4

pburns · 13-02-2011 1:00pm

Peugeot are traditionally the most conservative of French manufacturers, I don't see anything wrong with them taking inspiration from VAG for interiors. It's the only thing they do well!

Great review Bodhan, really informative. I don't know if i agree that the 2.0 is the one we'll buy. Surely the Paddy-spec special will be the 1.6 and the 2.0d will be a bit of a rare beast (and a better bargain s/h than new)?

Good to see Peugeot back on form, I really liked the 405 growing up. It was class-leader in it's day - beat the pants off contemporary Sierra/Passat/Vectra...

Bodhan · 13-02-2011 1:40pm

pburns wrote: »

Peugeot are traditionally the most conservative of French manufacturers, I don't see anything wrong with them taking inspiration from VAG for interiors. It's the only thing they do well!

Great review Bodhan, really informative. I don't know if i agree that the 2.0 is the one we'll buy. Surely the Paddy-spec special will be the 1.6 and the 2.0d will be a bit of a rare beast (and a better bargain s/h than new)?

Good to see Peugeot back on form, I really liked the 405 growing up. It was class-leader in it's day - beat the pants off contemporary Sierra/Passat/Vectra...

Cheers pburns!
Peugeot has grown up lots, the interior is great. There's only 500 euro between the 1.6 112bhp Active and the 2.0 140bhp Active with a 6 speed box. It would make more sense to go for the 2.0

pburns · 13-02-2011 6:42pm

Bodhan wrote: »

Cheers pburns!
Peugeot has grown up lots, the interior is great. There's only 500 euro between the 1.6 112bhp Active and the 2.0 140bhp Active with a 6 speed box. It would make more sense to go for the 2.0

Wow! How does emissions/MPG differ between the two? you'd need to be a right Scrooge to go for the 1.6. But people will! They'll drop 30k on a new motor and obsess over a slightly higher tax band and marginally better fuel consumption.

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