Voting in the Dun Laoghaire constituency

me-skywalker

Please do not vote for Mary Hanafin/Andrews.

Lets locally not let these people who have been responsible for the disintegration of the local and national economy.

Slideshowbob

So who is running in the constituency?

Barry Andrews
Mary Hanifan
Sean Barrett
Eamon Gilmore
Richard Boyd Barrett

Who else?

Fratton Fred

Don't forget Ivana Bacik.

Tabnabs

me-skywalker wrote: »

Please do not vote for Mary Hanafin/Andrews.

Lets locally not let these people who have been responsible for the disintegration of the local and national economy.

If that's your thinking (and it's not a bad outlook IMHO), please add Boyd-Barrett to your list for boycotting. His policies are equally unsustainable.

Cookie_Monster

Slideshowbob wrote: »

Barry Andrews
Mary Hanifan
Sean Barrett
Eamon Gilmore
Richard Boyd Barrett

Mitchel-O'Connor
Bacik
Cuffe

Ron DMC

I welcome a thread discussing the election, but don't just post up "Don't for X/Y". Give reasons for/against. It'll provide a much more interesting discussion that way. And no direct camaigning (that said, candidates are more than welcome to pop in and respond to posts and answer questions).

TheVoodoo

All the random independents have disappeared. Can't say i'm particularly fond of any of the candidates that are running though..


The only one who i'v seen actively doing anything in the area ( Up for correction ) is Boyd-Barrett trying to get the 46a back through the Farm. All the rest, imo, only emerge around election time.

Ron DMC

As part of today's Fianna Fáil front bench reshuffle, it was rumoured that either Hanafin or Andrews would move to Dublin South as part of being offered the position of Deputy Leader, but following her appointment as Deputy Leader this afternoon, Hanafin has confirmed that both are still running in Dún Laoghaire.

Risky move by Fianna Fáil if you ask me.

bullpost

Arriving by parachute anytime now!

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Don't forget Ivana Bacik.

Cookie_Monster

Ron DMC wrote: »

As part of today's Fianna Fáil front bench reshuffle, it was rumoured that either Hanafin or Andrews would move to Dublin South as part of being offered the position of Deputy Leader, but following her appointment as Deputy Leader this afternoon, Hanafin has confirmed that both are still running in Dún Laoghaire.

Risky move by Fianna Fáil if you ask me.

Denied by Hanafin on "The Right Hook"

I'm starting to think Andrews has a better chance than Hanafin. She utterly failed in education IMO, making no real progress despite the huge budget increase, class sizes are bigger than ever, schools are still unbuilt and un-refurbished, education costs have risen hugely, most of the eduction budget is now swallowed by wages.

She then got booted into the "dept of fun" and has really done nothing since except defend the party at every chance.

I sincerely hope that RBB does not get in, he is a really dangerous character at times, disregarding the law to promote ridiculous and dubious causes.

Cuffe has little chance due to the backlash against the greens, I'm still a supporter of the green agenda but the way it was implemented by the green party, through tax and little else, was the wrong way to go about it. I don't understand some of their supposedly green policies, for example how a green party can possibly be against an incinerator in Dublin.

Labour, Gilmore is pretty much guaranteed IMO, though if people took proper notice maybe not. he's done little but cause agro and take cheap shots recently, there doesn't seem to be much proper solid policy and ideas from him. The RedC poll reseults on Sunday reflect this I think, people aren't so sure of labour anymore.

Dunno much about either of the FG's, Barret send a good bit of propoganda around, never noticed of heard anything about MMo'C

1 Labour, 1 FF, 1 FG and a close run between Bacik, RBB and FG for 4th seat.
No 5th seat anymore remember.

Fratton Fred

I know some life long FF supporters that have recently realised how much Mary Hanafin gets from her TD/minister/teachers salaries and pensions, yet has actually done zero of any note.

I think her days may be numbered.

ted1

with the lack of credible candidates i think i may actually run.

RBB is a tool and is anti everthing, one of these guys that opposes everthing but when questioned can not give a alternative suggestions.

So would you vote for me?

Cookie_Monster

ted1 wrote: »

So would you vote for me?

list yer policies

uch

ted1 wrote: »

with the lack of credible candidates i think i may actually run.

RBB is a tool and is anti everthing, one of these guys that opposes everthing but when questioned can not give a alternative suggestions.

So would you vote for me?

You already have my no. 1

Londonite

For the first time in my voting life, I have absolutely no idea how I am going to vote in Dun Laoghaire/Rathdown. Having always (probably a bit petulantly) voted for everyone except FF and SF, I find neither the FG nor Lab candidates impressive in any way. I have no faith that FG, led by Enda Kenny, will be any different from FF. I expect them to get busy appointing their buddies to various quangos once in office and to continue to spend all of their time telling us none of this is of their making and blaming FF. I admire Boyd Barrett's ceaseless work on the DL Baths but do not think that is any reason to vote for a candidate to be part of a national government to run our country. Can there any benefit in voting for independents at a time like this when we need a cohesive government? FG and Lab seem to be to be quite at odds on various issues. Am leaning towards hoping for a minority FG government supported by independents but only because it seems like the best of an extremely bad lot. On bad days, I think that if an EU/IMF candidate stood, I would vote for them. How sad is that? Rant over.

outandabout

That's what it says on his election posters.

How can you trust a name?

I presuming he's referring to the fact that he is a son of David Andrews who represented Dún Laoghaire from 1965 to 2002 and his uncle, Niall represented Dublin in the European Parliament from 1984 to 2004, having been a TD for 10 years.

His cousin Chris, the FF TD in Dublin South East is a son of Niall Andrews.

So basically Barry Andrews is saying we're part of this great dynasty and that's why you should elect me.

I'm not voting in this constituency but that sounds like a fairly poor pitch to me.

Ron DMC

Moved from Dublin County South.

Happy to take the thread back whenever.

vallo

But Mary Hanafin is always there when she is needed to dish out the medals at the local schools sports day!
That's why my brother in law is voting for her anyway!
And it's why she will be in last place on my ballot.

hobochris

vallo wrote: »

But Mary Hanafin is always there when she is needed to dish out the medals at the local schools sports day!
That's why my brother in law is voting for her anyway!
And it's why she will be in last place on my ballot.

She is not even a consideration as far as I'm concerned.

vallo

hobochris wrote: »

She is not even a consideration as far as I'm concerned.

I just get immense satisfaction from putting her last!

Tragedy

Like or hate her(and most people hate her, and I don't blame them especially after the last month of her equivocating and being basically two faced), she has the best work ethic of any Minister I've ever seen. Fairly good debater when she isn't sitting on the fence too.

I hope RBB, Bacik and the FG Councillor who just screams "WONT SOMEBODY THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN??" don't get in. Other than that, I'm entirely apathetic.

Morlar

For me it definitely wont be Fianna Fail, it can't be Bacik so no labour either, nor boyd barrett either. Also never voting for this green party for as long as I live. Other than that it's all to play for.

Whiskey Devil

If I were a betting man I'd put a lot of money on RBB taking the last seat..

1. Gilmore
2. Barrett
3. Hanafin
4. Boyd Barrett

I'm still undecided, but it certainly won't be anyone FF,FG,LAB..

Independents are Victor Boyhan and Carl Haughton. Any others?

Are Sinn Féin not running a candidate in DL?

HavingCrack

I'm considering voting Boyhan because he's the only candidate running to ever call to my house. Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have sent canvassers but have never actually put the candidate in person out.

Fianna Fail aren't even worthy of consideration while I'm in two minds about Sean Barrett while the last thing we need is yet another teacher in the Dail-Marie whatsherface.

Labour seem to abandon my area of the constituency completely when out canvassing which pisses me off no end as I'd consider giving Gilmore my number 1 otherwise. I won't be voting for Bacik anyway due to her insistance on gender quotas in the Dail.

Whiskey Devil wrote: »

Are Sinn Féin not running a candidate in DL?

Rumours going around are that Sinn Fein made an agreement with Boyd Barrett not to run a candidate in Dun Laoghaire in order to avoid splitting the far left vote.

To be honest I don't think SF would have had the slightest chance of being elected in Dun Laoghaire. There are some working class areas around Sallynoggin, Ballybrack and Monkstown but on the whole its pretty middle class who wouldn't be SF voters.

James Jones

Klingon Hamlet wrote: »

Nicholas Crawford is running as an independent candidate in Dun Laoghaire and is associated with other independents in Newvision.ie.

He says: "Rights of Married or Unmarried Parents: I believe in equal rights for all parents whether married or not. Guardianship decisions should be made jointly and both parents should be named on the birth certificate. Exceptions only in cases where a court decides otherwise is in the best interests of the child or other parent or both".

Are there any other candidates out there making similar calls? I can't vote for him cause I live in Meath.

me-skywalker

Gilmore 1
Boyd-Barrett 2
Independant
Independant

me-skywalker

After another appaling Debate by Gilmore im actually worreid on his capability to be aggressive and be defensive, in the face of the EU/IMF in the European HQ , in Euro leaders private offices i cant see Gilmore being able to stnad-up and fight for us as well as Kenny or even Martin. Pity there is no viable option for Labour to have a proper enigmatic leader.

Agent Smith

James Jones wrote: »

Nicholas Crawford is running as an independent candidate in Dun Laoghaire and is associated with other independents in Newvision.ie.

He says: "Rights of Married or Unmarried Parents: I believe in equal rights for all parents whether married or not. Guardianship decisions should be made jointly and both parents should be named on the birth certificate. Exceptions only in cases where a court decides otherwise is in the best interests of the child or other parent or both".

He'll be getting a transfer from me anyway

Exclamation Marc

Still undecided on who to vote for.

Ivana Bacik will certainly not be getting a vote nor will the militant Boyd-Barrett, neither of who I'd ever like to see in the Dáil, both would be an absolute nightmare but Bacik will probably get in via the Cyprian Brady model.

Victor Boyhan looks like a good shot.

Irish Times polled 500 houses and the four that would get their seat based on the results were;

Gilmore
Barrett
Hanafin
Bacik or Boyd Barrett

From the Irish Times;

Hanafin on track to retain seat.

STEPHEN COLLINS, Political Editor

FIANNA Fáil deputy leader Mary Hanafin is on course to hold her Dáil seat in Dún Laoghaire despite a serious decline in her party’s vote, according to an Irish Times /Ipsos MRBI constituency poll.

The poll, conducted using a sample ballot paper, indicates that her fellow Fianna Fáil TD, Minister of State Barry Andrews, will lose his seat in the constituency which has been reduced from five seats to four since the last election.

The strong showing of Fine Gael across the State is reflected in the fact that the party’s foreign affairs spokesman, Seán Barrett, is set to top the poll narrowly ahead of Labour leader Eamon Gilmore.

The good news for Labour, however, is that the party is well positioned to win two seats in the constituency, with Senator Ivana Bacik on course to make it into the Dáil.

The last seat is shaping up to be a battle between Ms Bacik and left-wing activist Richard Boyd Barrett, and although the Labour Senator is behind on the first count she appears to be getting enough transfers to win the last seat.

Green TD Ciarán Cuffe looks to have very little chance of holding his seat in the constituency and is likely to be eliminated early in the count.

The second Fine Gael candidate, Mary Mitchell O’Connor, is narrowly behind Ms Bacik and Mr Boyd Barrett on the first count and would need to make significant gains over the next week to be in contention.

The percentage share of the first-preference vote won by the candidates is as follows: Seán Barrett 24 per cent; Eamon Gilmore 23 per cent; Mary Hanafin 10 per cent; Richard Boyd Barrett 10 per cent; Ivana Bacik 9 per cent; Barry Andrews 8 per cent; Mary Mitchell O’Connor 8 per cent; Ciarán Cuffe 4 per cent. Six Independents have 1 per cent or less.

Compared with the last general election, the Fianna Fáil vote is down by 17 per cent, the Labour vote is up 16 per cent, the Fine Gael vote up 9 per cent, the Green Party vote down almost 4 per cent and Mr Boyd Barrett’s vote unchanged.

Although Ms Hanafin is only two points ahead of her running mate Barry Andrews, she is more transfer-friendly than him. She will benefit from a strong transfer on his elimination and should take the third seat.

Although Fine Gael has marginally more votes than Labour, the wide gap between Seán Barrett and Ms Mitchell O’Connor makes a second seat difficult to win even though there are strong transfers between them.

The survey was conducted on Tuesday and Wednesday of this week through 500 in-home interviews at 50 sampling points across the constituency. Voters were given sample ballot papers and the margin of error is plus or minus 4.5 per cent. Almost 80 per cent of those polled marked the ballot paper.

There are 14 candidates in Dún Laoghaire, an increase of three compared with the last election.

Littleblondehen

This is only my second time to vote in a general election, and the first time i didn't really have a clue!

I am at a total loss on who to vote for. It seems they are all to busy going on the radio to interrupt and shout at each other like bold children all the while making no sense (to me at least!), am I to vote for the person who can shout the loudest?

They sh*te on and on about how they are going to do this, that and the other, but that means nothing to me! Not one of them has called to our door to even try lie to my face!

It definatly will not be FF or Greens. FG I'm doubtful, they keep waffling on about this 5 point plan and I have no clue what it is.

So I have a choice of Labour or Independents?

I would have voted SF but they don't seem to have anyone running.
Richard Boyd Barrett can sing for my vote, I picked him the last time and he's done SFA, seems unless you are a headline grabber he won't help you out.

I think I'll just vote for Eamon Gilmore because he looks like a teddy bear.........:D:p Just joking!

schemingbohemia

HavingCrack wrote: »

I'm considering voting Boyhan because he's the only candidate running to ever call to my house. Fine Gael and Fianna Fail have sent canvassers but have never actually put the candidate in person out.

Fianna Fail aren't even worthy of consideration while I'm in two minds about Sean Barrett while the last thing we need is yet another teacher in the Dail-Marie whatsherface.

Labour seem to abandon my area of the constituency completely when out canvassing which pisses me off no end as I'd consider giving Gilmore my number 1 otherwise. I won't be voting for Bacik anyway due to her insistance on gender quotas in the Dail.




Rumours going around are that Sinn Fein made an agreement with Boyd Barrett not to run a candidate in Dun Laoghaire in order to avoid splitting the far left vote.

To be honest I don't think SF would have had the slightest chance of being elected in Dun Laoghaire. There are some working class areas around Sallynoggin, Ballybrack and Monkstown but on the whole its pretty middle class who wouldn't be SF voters.

Has Boyhan any policies at all? His leaflet just listed his name, absolutely pointless voting for someone that can't even bother putting their policies on a leaflet. This is the most serious election in most of our lives and to waste a vote on someone who can't even put together a few ideas on a flyer beggars belief. Same with Haughton is it? No info/policies on his flyer.

Bacik may have that view on gender quotas but it's not Labour Party policy so I wouldn't hold that against her.

Boyd-Barrett wants to actively feck up the 46a for the vast majority of passengers so that people in the Farm won't have to walk a few hundred metres - pointless and typical of the anti-everything policies he and his fellow travellers espouse.

For me the FG plan isn't a plan it's a list, there's a huge hole in their finances which is predicated on getting 30,000 public sector voluntary redundancies which just won't happen.

Hanafin is obnoxious, someone who allows their 80-odd year old mother file a claim for €65k against the State for an injured ankle when she's on the money she's on and who also brings her ma on state visits at the taxpayers expense is beyond contempt.

Barry Andrews is now relying on his Da's name to grab votes, can't sink much lower than that.

HavingCrack

schemingbohemia wrote: »

Has Boyhan any policies at all? His leaflet just listed his name, absolutely pointless voting for someone that can't even bother putting their policies on a leaflet. This is the most serious election in most of our lives and to waste a vote on someone who can't even put together a few ideas on a flyer beggars belief. Same with Haughton is it? No info/policies on his flyer.

Bacik may have that view on gender quotas but it's not Labour Party policy so I wouldn't hold that against her.

Boyd-Barrett wants to actively feck up the 46a for the vast majority of passengers so that people in the Farm won't have to walk a few hundred metres - pointless and typical of the anti-everything policies he and his fellow travellers espouse.

For me the FG plan isn't a plan it's a list, there's a huge hole in their finances which is predicated on getting 30,000 public sector voluntary redundancies which just won't happen.

Hanafin is obnoxious, someone who allows their 80-odd year old mother file a claim for €65k against the State for an injured ankle when she's on the money she's on and who also brings her ma on state visits at the taxpayers expense is beyond contempt.

Barry Andrews is now relying on his Da's name to grab votes, can't sink much lower than that.

The flyer I got from Boyhan had all his policies on it? Clearly you got a different one.
http://www.victorboyhan.com/policy_overview I got a flyer listing all the policies on his website so I couldn't say why you didn't. I don't agree with all of them (in fact some are quite stupid) and some are a bit wishy washy but certainly no more so than any other candidate. I haven't heard or recieved anything from Haughton so can't argue with you there.

No it is official Labour Party Policy to impose gender quotas on the Dail and state boards, not just Bacik shooting her mouth off. She's a vile sexist regardless who believes in lesser prison sentences for women so she won't be getting my vote.
Everything else I'd agree with you.

Fratton Fred

I met Richard BB yesterday. I asked him about the deal he supposedly has with Sinn Fein, according to him this is a FG biased journalist putting out untrue rumours.

I will probably give him a vote. He certainly seems like the sort of guy who will keep the main parties under pressure, which is no bad thing.

me-skywalker

FireballPitcher wrote: »

Irish Times polled 500 houses and the four that would get their seat based on the results were;

Gilmore
Barrett
Hanafin
Bacik or Boyd Barrett

From the Irish Times;

As per the Boards results which is near 500, Hanafin has her seat lost.

Littleblondehen wrote: »

This is only my second time to vote in a general election, and the first time i didn't really have a clue!

I am at a total loss on who to vote for. It seems they are all to busy going on the radio to interrupt and shout at each other like bold children all the while making no sense (to me at least!), am I to vote for the person who can shout the loudest?

They sh*te on and on about how they are going to do this, that and the other, but that means nothing to me! Not one of them has called to our door to even try lie to my face!

It definatly will not be FF or Greens. FG I'm doubtful, they keep waffling on about this 5 point plan and I have no clue what it is.

So I have a choice of Labour or Independents?

I would have voted SF but they don't seem to have anyone running.
Richard Boyd Barrett can sing for my vote, I picked him the last time and he's done SFA, seems unless you are a headline grabber he won't help you out.

I think I'll just vote for Eamon Gilmore because he looks like a teddy bear.........:D:p Just joking!

I had Eamon in the house about 3years ago for a personal issue the mother had, was very nice, kind, open and understanding and in the end did fck all about it! So while he is nice man and I geniuinely think he is a 'good guy' I just honestly dont think he has the verve or umph to be the Taoiseach.

Fratton Fred wrote: »

I met Richard BB yesterday. I asked him about the deal he supposedly has with Sinn Fein, according to him this is a FG biased journalist putting out untrue rumours.

I will probably give him a vote. He certainly seems like the sort of guy who will keep the main parties under pressure, which is no bad thing.

For this reason alone all my votes will be IND

Exclamation Marc

Boyd Barrett just comes off as the Jackie Healy Rae of Dun Laoghaire.

He'd fluff money on rebuilding the baths which I don't think anybody really has any interest any using again.

He's campaigning to have the 46a run through Monkstown farm again despite the fact that the route has moved only a few hundred metres away and prior to its removal the buses regularly mounted curbs to pass each other out because the road is not built for that sort of traffic.

schemingbohemia

me-skywalker wrote: »

As per the Boards results which is near 500, Hanafin has her seat lost.



I had Eamon in the house about 3years ago for a personal issue the mother had, was very nice, kind, open and understanding and in the end did fck all about it! So while he is nice man and I geniuinely think he is a 'good guy' I just honestly dont think he has the verve or umph to be the Taoiseach.




For this reason alone all my votes will be IND

As an opposition TD what do you think he was going to be able to do? Anyway, that's what county councillors are for not national politicians or Ministers.

schemingbohemia

HavingCrack wrote: »

The flyer I got from Boyhan had all his policies on it? Clearly you got a different one.
http://www.victorboyhan.com/policy_overview I got a flyer listing all the policies on his website so I couldn't say why you didn't. I don't agree with all of them (in fact some are quite stupid) and some are a bit wishy washy but certainly no more so than any other candidate. I haven't heard or recieved anything from Haughton so can't argue with you there.

No it is official Labour Party Policy to impose gender quotas on the Dail and state boards, not just Bacik shooting her mouth off. She's a vile sexist regardless who believes in lesser prison sentences for women so she won't be getting my vote.
Everything else I'd agree with you.

The 40% gender quota is for State Boards, a woolier commitment is given towards State funding of political parties being dependent on a certain amount of female representatives - NOT TDs - so this would include County Councils, Urban District Councils and Town Councils. Either way, I think it's important that more women get into representative politics.

Bacik isn't a sexist, she's into equality, if you actually think through what she talked about regarding prison sentences for females it was for the benefit of society that she had her concerns - what happens to the children of women who get sent to prison for often very very minor offences - their children are much more likely to get taken into care (which doesn't happen when men go to prison) which leads to family breakdown and the next generation of children are much more likely to repeat the mistakes of the parents and the cycle just continues.

I looked at Boyhan's policies, not sure how they can be afforded, no property tax yet reform of local government funding, funding for everything yet no tax increases on anything? Doesn't add up.

Tragedy

schemingbohemia wrote: »

The 40% gender quota is for State Boards, a woolier commitment is given towards State funding of political parties being dependent on a certain amount of female representatives - NOT TDs - so this would include County Councils, Urban District Councils and Town Councils. Either way, I think it's important that more women get into representative politics.

Then maybe more women should run for them.

Bacik isn't a sexist, she's into equality, if you actually think through what she talked about regarding prison sentences for females it was for the benefit of society that she had her concerns - what happens to the children of women who get sent to prison for often very very minor offences - their children are much more likely to get taken into care (which doesn't happen when men go to prison) which leads to family breakdown and the next generation of children are much more likely to repeat the mistakes of the parents and the cycle just continues.

She is a sexist, she is in no way interested in equality, and is only interested in feminist issues.

Equality means equal, how can she be into equality when she only ever pushes for womens issues? The article about women getting lower sentences is an example of sexist discrimination. As is gender quotas.

You can argue that they're a good thing if you wish, it doesn't negate the fact that they are forms of sexist discrimination

me-skywalker

schemingbohemia wrote: »

As an opposition TD what do you think he was going to be able to do? Anyway, that's what county councillors are for not national politicians or Ministers.

I expect him to have a bit of backbone and resovle if he wants to pretend to care about local issues to help his national image then he surely could have been more productive and helped with a resolution but as far as he was concerned turning up and having a cup of tea was a good as offering the mother the winning lotto ticket.

Tragedy

I went to Gilmore with a local(but national issue) with regards the Affordable Homes scheme(ran by the CoCo, DLR has 8 Labour Councillors) after having no luck with the CoCo. He sent me a nice mail saying it was an important issue that needed to be addressed on a national basis and... never heard back. Cuffe was more helpful in that he couldn't help, but offered decent advice

James Jones

Tragedy wrote: »

She is a sexist, she is in no way interested in equality, and is only interested in feminist issues.

Equality means equal, how can she be into equality when she only ever pushes for womens issues?

Not true. She has called for paternity leave for fathers HERE.

Calling for a change in the law, Senator Bacik said: “The State must give fathers recognition in the workplace by legislating for the right to take even a few weeks’ paid paternity leave. It is most unfair on men, women and children that the parenting responsibilities of fathers specifically are not given any legal acknowledgement in their employment

Unfortunately, LABOUR are watering down her proposals by seeking maternity leave to be shared so, instead of fathers having leave as a right, Labour will allow fathers to have leave IF MOTHERS ALLOW!!!

Labour favours moving to a paternity leave model, where parents can share paid leave when a new baby is born, as resources allow".

Exclamation Marc

Bacik is in Dun Laoghaire because she failed in Dublin Central in 2009 and is now in Dun Laoghaire to become elected via Eamonn Gilmores trade off votes

Says a lot really.

Tragedy

James Jones wrote: »

Not true. She has called for paternity leave for fathers HERE.



Unfortunately, LABOUR are watering down her proposals by seeking maternity leave to be shared so, instead of fathers having leave as a right, Labour will allow fathers to have leave IF MOTHERS ALLOW!!!

Ah, I stand corrected.
Only,
She wouldn't be calling for increased paternity leave as this would make it easier for women to keep up a career while still having children?
As in, she's calling for a right for men because it benefits women(Note: I don't disagree with it, I only disagree that her motives are for the betterment of all rather than just women).

She's still a complete misadrist who keeps parachuting into any constituency she can in a desperate attempt to get elected.
Somewhere.
Anywhere?



Fireball, she tried run in DSE and sought nominations last year. She wasn't selected, so off to Dun Laoghaire she went.

Exclamation Marc

Tragedy wrote: »

Fireball, she tried run in DSE and sought nominations last year. She wasn't selected, so off to Dun Laoghaire she went.

I didn't even know that, I only knew about the failed by-election!

So she's gone from a failed by-election in Dublin Central to a failed selection in Dublin South East and now she's in Dun Laoghaire (I assume to take Gilmores overflow)

SerialComplaint

HavingCrack wrote: »

No it is official Labour Party Policy to impose gender quotas on the Dail and state boards, not just Bacik shooting her mouth off.

For the record, that is current FF Govt policy to gender balance State Boards.

HavingCrack

SerialComplaint wrote: »

For the record, that is current FF Govt policy to gender balance State Boards.

I am actually aware but I oppose awarding positions to people because of their sex, age, nationality, links to politicians etc. Positions should be awarded specifically on merit.

me-skywalker

HavingCrack wrote: »

I am actually aware but I oppose awarding positions to people because of their sex, age, nationality, links to politicians etc. Positions should be awarded specifically on merit.

Of course the history of politics is riddled with cronyism and don't be under any illusion that the future will be any different.

The whole issue of equal rights in the work place/dail should be decided equally by the people of a democaracy and not a bill thats actually counter progressive by highlighting the idea that the government can force their hand by removing qualified and even excellent people based on gender.

Pauleta

http://richardhumphreys.blogspot.com/2010/10/humphreys-shocked-at-boyd-barrett.html
HUMPHREYS SHOCKED AT BOYD-BARRETT SUPPORT FOR EXTREMIST ORGANISATIONS
STATEMENT BY CLLR RICHARD HUMPHREYS
Labour Party Councillor for Stillorgan
Tuesday, 12 October 2010

HUMPHREYS SHOCKED AT BOYD-BARRETT SUPPORT FOR EXTREMIST ORGANISATIONS

Speaking during the meeting of Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown County Council on 11 October 2010, Cllr Richard Humphreys, the Labour Party Councillor for the Stillorgan Ward, has expressed shock at the support shown by Cllr Richard Boyd-Barrett and his Party for Extremist Islamic Organisations that are involved in terrorism, anti-Semitism and Holocaust-denial.

“Cllr Boyd Barrett is a prominent figure in the Socialist Workers Party, which has openly stated in its newspaper, the “Socialist Worker”, in August 2006 that it supports Hamas and Hezbollah.” Humphreys said. “Hamas is acknowledged by the EU to be a terrorist organisation. Its charter is openly anti-Semitic and it has engaged in Holocaust denial. Likewise Hezbollah has been categorised by many governments internationally as terrorist and is committed to the destruction of the State of Israel.”

“According to a report by Mary Fitzgerald in the Irish Times on 13 April 2009, Cllr Boyd Barrett himself spoke at an Al-Aqsa Conference in April 2009 at which Hamas paramilitary material was openly on display, and he shared a platform with speakers who openly voiced support for the jihad, the Taleban and the Iraqi and Afghan insurgents. In his own speech at that conference and again at the Council meeting last night Cllr Boyd-Barrett openly questioned Israel’s right to exist.” Humphreys said.

“Last night I challenged Cllr Boyd Barrett to condemn Hamas and Hezbollah, the Taleban and the jihadis in the Iraqi and Afghan theatres. Cllr Boyd-Barrett failed that challenge and he failed to condemn any of those organisations by name. He also failed to acknowledge Israel’s right to exist, but merely objected to anti-Semitism in general. However he cannot pose as anti-war and as against discrimination while he and his Party lend succour to organisations that are anti-Semitic and extremist, and while he himself does not accept Israel’s right to exist.” Humphreys said. “The voters of Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown are entitled to know about the extreme groupings that Cllr Boyd Barrett and the Socialist Workers Party/People before Profit have associated with and supported.” Humphreys said.

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Boyd-Barrett is not the type of person i want representing my constituency. Its a shame people dont see through his man of the people charade. He is an extremist.

me-skywalker

Pauleta wrote: »

Boyd-Barrett is not the type of person i want representing my constituency. Its a shame people dont see through his man of the people charade. He is an extremist.

Well if Mr Humphreys is so sure about it were are the actual quotes from Barret supporting these organisations even video footage at these conferences, sound files?


I dont think he would have lasted so long if he openly supported these organisations.

Ron DMC

Don't want this to sound like a plug, but I've blogged my thoughts on the constituency over here.

Basically, I think it'll go Gilmore, Barrett, and Bacik, and the fourth seat will be a close enough one. Personally I don't want to see RBB get it, I'd like to see Cuffe or one of the Independents get in instead.

Cookie_Monster

Ron DMC wrote: »

Personally I don't want to see RBB get it, I'd like to see Cuffe or one of the Independents get in instead.

or even Trevor Patton, slime that he is :pac::pac::pac:
Still better than RBB