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Which dog breed for a jogger?

  • 29-01-2011 11:19pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭


    Howdy folks. Having thoughts about getting a dog. Have 3 kids (youngest 5) and a (very nervous) cat to consider. My wife particularly loves Golden Retrievers, while I've a fondness for Spaniels.

    Thing is that both myself and my wife do a wee bit of running - one or other of us will go running almost every day - and I was thinking it'd be nice if we could get a dog who could run with us. Distances would be up to 12k, for about an hour.

    Are there any breeds which would be able for this? There is a perception that greyhounds and whippets would be ideal but I understand they are not great for any distance - correct? We could accomodate a retriever but not really any larger and we would have to get a small pup, as we think our cat would need to get to know him/her when its small and get used to them as they grow.

    I've probably not listed some other things but I don't think I've omitted anything key to this particular aspect of the decision. Any thoughts?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 295 ✭✭john t


    Young dogs/puppies cant run over distance so a dog would need too b approx 1.5yrs old. Huskie dog is ideal too run for distance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    Any kind of setter/spaniel type dog would be great. I'd get a mutt though, they tend to be healthier. Retrievers/Labs/etc can be so overbred that they can develop joint problems and are prone to arthritis. Any chance you'd consider adopting a mongrel?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    I think a lab would be good, they would be good for the running and also the kids, maybe get a female as they are smaller. Or a nice mut as suggested earlier.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭fifib


    seen a guy out running the other night with a greyhound...guess who was in the lead?!! and theres so many of them in the dog shelters these days.dunno how they are with kids tho


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Would be very open to getting a mutt - I'd far prefer to rescue a dog than pay a breeder - but young pups don't seem to appear on the rescue pages too much. I'd need to know that its parent breeds would be likely to allow it to run a bit as described. Fair point on the lab / retriever joint problems also.

    I know it'd have to grow into the distances but my young son also runs - not long distances of course (2-3k at a slow enough pace) - so a younger dog would be able to run with him I'd guess.

    Thanks for your thoughts - any more?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 651 ✭✭✭falabo


    greyhounds and whippets are "sprinters" and would not be capable of running such a distance. they can run very fast but for very short periods of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,731 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Dilbert75 wrote: »
    Would be very open to getting a mutt - I'd far prefer to rescue a dog than pay a breeder - but young pups don't seem to appear on the rescue pages too much. I'd need to know that its parent breeds would be likely to allow it to run a bit as described. Fair point on the lab / retriever joint problems also.

    I know it'd have to grow into the distances but my young son also runs - not long distances of course (2-3k at a slow enough pace) - so a younger dog would be able to run with him I'd guess.

    Thanks for your thoughts - any more?
    you could get a half a lab if you know what I mean, not a breeder one, mostly lab. There are a lot of rescue ones for some reason. I suppose they are cute when small and are a lot of minding when they get big. I just love them and they are good with kids so I am biased. They can be prone to joint problems but they dont all have them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,874 ✭✭✭EGAR


    Pointers :D.. And by pure chance I've got a lovely German Wirehaired Pointer in rescue who is absolutely fine with cats and adores kids :D.

    Relatively rare solid liver with white bib:

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    Not that I am plugging my own dogs *whistle* :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,524 ✭✭✭Zapperzy


    Spaniels have bags of energy so I would say they'd be ideal, pointers, dalmations and huskys would also have bags and bags of energy and would have the endurance for a long run. Huskys however I don't think have a very good reputation with cats.

    Generally the rule for exercise is 5 minutes for month of age, larger breeds would be much slower developing their bones and joints so may not be fully mature and capable of long runs on hard surfaces until about 2 years of age, before that and you risk damaging their joints.
    So if your looking for a jogging companian now maybe it's best to look for an older dog that has lived with cats before. Some rescue centres foster their dogs in homes before they are adopted out so would have an idea as to which ones are good with cats.

    I would be careful with greyhounds and a nervous cat, don't get me wrong greyhounds are lovely dogs and there are loads who are good with cats and small dogs but I don't know if I'd trust one with a nervous and likely to run cat, a dog savvy cat yes but not one that is very likely to run. Don't completely rule them out this is just my opinion, if your cat is anything like mine she would resemble a small blurry furry object sprinting away in the distance when she's around something she's nervous of!

    Jack russells exercise wise would also be ideal, they are a powerhouse of energy cramed into a small body, again you would need to be careful to get one which is used to cats as they would have a high prey drive.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    EGAR wrote: »
    Pointers :D.. And by pure chance I've got a lovely German Wirehaired Pointer in rescue who is absolutely fine with cats and adores kids :D.

    Relatively rare solid liver with white bib:

    76157_471971805888_169411475888_5689846_2921394_n.jpg

    Not that I am plugging my own dogs *whistle* :P

    That's a gorgeous-looking dog EGAR. Problem is our neurotic cat. I really do think we'd need to start with a small puppy or she'd have a conniption/nervous breakdown, even if the dog paid her no heed whatsoever. I did take in a rescue dog before and the cat went into shock. As it happened the dog happened to be a cat-chasing escape artist so we had to have her re-rehomed to an even more secure garden (>5' walls) with no cats.

    Lab crosses would be fine with me also. The point on the greyhounds/whippets is in line with what I'd heard.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    Border collie, they run for hours and hours.
    Go for a 30 minute jog and sure they are only warming up.

    They'll herd you along and snap at your heels if you're slacking, like a good sheepdog :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    As you have a cat and low walls, then a husky is definitely not for you, but then I think most of the high energy breeds might also be out, unless you are prepared to make your garden more secure. I had a pointer here that could scale 7 foot fences no problem, her new home looks like Fort Knox at this point.

    The advice about how far a pup can be exercised is spot on, 5 minutes for every month of the dog's life, so it would be at least one and a half to two years old before you could run with it the way you want.

    Its all about how you introduce the dog and cat to each other that is the key. A puppy will actually probably chase the cat more than an older, cat friendly rescue dog. The cat may not be scared of it, but it will get chased:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,295 ✭✭✭Joe10000


    Border collie, they run for hours and hours.
    Go for a 30 minute jog and sure they are only warming up.

    They'll herd you along and snap at your heels if you're slacking, like a good sheepdog :p

    Definitely agree, I would say get a border collie cross, the one we have is crossed with a german shepard and the dog never runs out of energy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,634 ✭✭✭TooManyDogs


    I agree with the other posters about mutts, my experience is that they've always been healthier than purebred dogs. The JRT types could be ideal for you, working dog packed into a small body. Mine do 5km without even blinking.
    I was given a baby seat for my bike at christmas so I'll be putting baba on the back and cycling the younger dogs, 2 of them are JRTs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭Cole


    I'd have to agree with the border collie cross option, based on experience. My old fella used to love going for a run with me, bundles of energy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,318 ✭✭✭Vel


    I know a lady who jogs with her greyhound and a guy around here jogs with a whippet and a lurcher. I think a lurcher could be good for something like this as depending on what the x is they would have more stamina than a greyhound. That said, greyhounds are conditioned to run short distances but I know of a greyhound who was adopted as a pup and never trained to race and by golly she has some stamina and can cover long distances.

    MJ at Orchard Greyhound Sanctuary is the person who adopted out a greyhound to the lady that jogs so you might want to contact her for more information. She is very knowledgeable on all things greyhound www.orchardgreyhoundsanctuary.com

    I'd echo what others have said about a spaniel. Bundles of energy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 384 ✭✭suziwalsh


    I run with my rescue lab x setter mix he loves it and happy to run beside me - or ahead of me off lead.

    There is ALWAYS pups in rescue I have no idea why so many people think they are not available....I see them every day.

    www.dogstrust.ie always have pups but you need to call directly to the centre.

    Most pounds have pups and you can look at www.irishanimals.ie for more available pups and dogs.

    So many breeds will be happy to run from small to large dogs just make sure the dog you get is not a heavy set dog or one with too much of a thick coat as dogs will over heat quickly.

    Best of luck in your search! If anyone is looking for a rescue pup and doesn't think they can find a pup fitting their needs in rescue you are more than welcome to contact me :) as I never have an issue with finding them....unfortunately too many unwanted dogs out there


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    German Shepard's,spaniel's,collie's,Lab's.And most cross bred labs collies german shepards,i saw huskie lurcher cross in the link above,pretty sure that would be a jogger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 nikobyrne


    husky for the win, so loves jogging and is also great with kids too :D


  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 11,139 Mod ✭✭✭✭Mr. Manager


    +1 on the border collie.

    I had one for 14 years before he had to be put down due to Leukemia. We'd run down to Dollymount beach and along the seaside then back home. Total run was only ever about 6-7k but he had more in him than I did.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    We have a border collie, a collie cross and a setter cross at the moment. I love them all, but one thing about the border collie is that it is next to impossible to keep him contained. He can climb trees, jump 5ft walls, squeeze through the narrowest gaps imaginable. It's not an issue for us, he very rarely leaves the property and we live in the middle of nowhere anyway, but if you had one with any degree of wanderlust at all and had a less than Fort Knox back yard, your nerves will be frayed.

    The collie cross has the same abilities but doesn't use them. The setter cross was a stray and was impossible for the first 2 months, but now that she's settled you could draw a line on the ground and she wouldn't cross it. Anything with gundog blood (setter, spaniel, pointer, labs etc) generally have the gentlest and most affectionate natures, are fairly easy to train and have heaps of energy. Our setter cross lives for love. She loves me & himself, loves my very young son (18months) intensely, loves the other dogs, loves the cat. We've even found her curled up with the ducks. She'd have been a lovely mammy and treats us all as her pups.

    The collies, while loyal unto death, are a bit more narky and don't always tolerate cuddles and view anything that isn't the boss as fair game for a bit of herding, bullying and even the odd corrective nip (not in a bad way, more in a supernanny way). I love my collies, but if you have younger kids or other pets, gundogs are the way to go (imo).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭JJJJNR


    I've a miniature Jack Russell and he comes along the 6km jog with me, he loves it. I think most working dogs would be able to run 10k.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 304 ✭✭mickmcl09


    Hard to see how there'd be animal equilibrium in the house between a cat and alot of the breeds mentioned - they'd have to be introduced to the cat as a pup. While I have a Samoyed and he gets on famously with the cat, they're not to be trusted with cats by all accounts and even more so for the Husky.

    My Samoyed is only 4.5 months and he's doing 2k in just over 10 minutes, he also walks 30k/week. He wouldn't have a hope of lasting for 10K plus until he's 12 to 18 months.

    A spaniel or spaniel cross I'd imagine would be the best, but again you'd have to get him as a pup and wait for 12/18 months before he'd get up to those distances.

    Samoyed is not ideal because he gets easily distracted - he's liable to run across you, I'd trust a springer spaniel far more in this regard, plus he's less likely to pull off the lead comparing to alot of the other breeds.

    Other plus for a spaniel breed is they have a soft (hunting dog) mouth. He's alot less likely to hurt the kids or the cat (unknown to himself) than some of the other breeds as well (when he's playing).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36 bunny&spoon


    +1 on the gun dogs

    We have a setter here and he loves running everywhere. even happier if somebody runs with him! Is great with kids, is great with everyone actually! very affectionate and loyal to his family, our's isnt really bother by cats as he was brought up around them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭User Friendly


    the Rodesian Ridgeback is the dog for you...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭RubyGirl




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,275 ✭✭✭RubyGirl


    Ya, I fell in love with her aswell. I WANT...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    fair game for a bit of herding, bullying and even the odd corrective nip (not in a bad way, more in a supernanny way).

    Even more reason to take the border collie running.

    Take too many breaks and you'll get a swift nip on your ankles :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭sotisme


    A bit far away but theres a beautiful setter and lots of other active dogs looking for homes at the DSPCA:)Not sure if this one is good with cats or not though....
    http://www.dspca.ie/cat_animals_need_homes_detail.jsp?itemID=1393&n=0&p=0


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    This one's a beauty too, good size to have in the house too... The cat "thing" is the biggest problem though - and mickmcl09 has expressed the same concerns that I've been having. Will the arrival of an adult dog traumatise the cat - she's nearly 8 and we've had her most of her life, so we do owe her the decency of strongly considering her happiness.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,941 ✭✭✭caseyann


    http://upload.irishanimals.ie/Uploads/77_P100310_11_34.jpg

    I love this one she is beauty http://www.irishanimals.ie/dublin_homes.html

    With the Cat maybe look up how to introduce them?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 196 ✭✭Meteoric


    As with everything talk to the person who knows the dog, be it a rescue or a pure-bred.
    My background is labradors, but there were ones that were fine with cats and ones that were not.
    If your rescue dog has been fostered with cats and is fine with them, or has come from a pedigree breeder who had cats, dog will probably just ignore cat, who will get into a huff for a day or so and then make friends. I don't recommend testing it out on your own cat but if you have some sort of history of dog being fine with cats it should be fine.
    One thing I have noticed is that there is a lot of generalisation on these threads about breeds of dogs/mongrels Like all are the same, they are not. My first two labs put up with a cat on top of them kneading them for comfort, my current one does not like cats, 'cause he did not grow up with them.
    In all cases we were told if the dog would get on with cats without work (yes, yes, no) and it proved to be right


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    Dilbert75 wrote: »
    This one's a beauty too, good size to have in the house too... The cat "thing" is the biggest problem though - and mickmcl09 has expressed the same concerns that I've been having. Will the arrival of an adult dog traumatise the cat - she's nearly 8 and we've had her most of her life, so we do owe her the decency of strongly considering her happiness.

    Very pleased to see you're considering your cat!

    The upshot is your cat will be upset. How upset depends on how you manage your cat.

    First, if your cat is an indoor/outdoor cat, you will have to keep her indoors when you bring the dog into the house, or you run the risk that she'll be so frightened and upset that she simply absconds and goes to live with a neighbour - or gets killed on the road roaming about to find somewhere she feels 'safer'.

    When introducing any dog or cat into an established home structure, it's vital to basically ignore the new animal. In most situations in the animal kingdom, the newcomer is bottom of the heap (unless they're the super alpha king of the heap, in which case they come in, kill the challengers, eat the young and screw the females, and honestly you really don't want an animal like that in your house.) Essentially most people make their first mistake by presenting a cute puppy or kitten to their established household animals, expecting the animal to be as enamoured of the newcomer as they are, and then when the existing cat or dog snaps, hisses or scratches at the newcomer, the owners give out, scold the existing pet and pick up the cute new addition and cuddle it.

    That behaviour, to your existing animals, feels like an emotional punch in the guts would feel to you. Imagine how you'd feel if someone brought a stranger into your home without telling you or asking you, and then told you off if you weren't nice to that stranger, didn't immediately feel like sharing your space, your food, your bed or your family with that stranger, and then started to give out to you for not simply being nice. You'd feel bloody awful - same goes for your animals.

    It's not anthropomorphising the situation to say your animals often feel extremely upset by a new addition. There is a simple pack structure in every household, even with cats. When you introduce a new addition and artifically promote that addition through the ranks and place it above your established pets, it upsets the applecart completely.

    Basically, if you bring a new dog (that you've already established with the foster or shelter is cat friendly or cat-oblivious) into your house, you need to spend all of your time spoiling your cat, praising your cat for ignoring the dog, and not admonishing your cat if she goes to smack or hiss at the dog. (Obviously intervene if she's trying to kill it.) The existing animal is always king of the house.

    I've written stuff on here before about introducing a new dog to an established cat - it's up to you to keep the dog under control and on a leash at all times, and to make a real fuss of the cat. Put the cat up somewhere high for first introductions so they feel safe and can watch from a height, and step in smoothly if things escalate.

    It's hard work, but it can be done - but you really need to take it seriously from the outset or it'll all end in tears. ANY dog can kill a cat - and it doesn't take much for horseplay to escalate.

    I have a nine month bull arab x puppy who weighs in now at 27kgs or thereabouts, and he's perfectly capable of killing any one of my cats. However, virtually every single interaction he has with them is supervised. He is never allowed outdoors offlead into the garden at the same time as the cats are. (The garden is cat proofed, so escape proof for the cats.) Inside the house he was initially kept on a lead for every single interaction. I made good use of babygates in open plan areas to keep him from being able to pursue the cats.

    The cats were spoiled and treated like kings and reassured when he was introduced first. They were not given out to for smacking him or hissing at him. He was given out to for barking at them or bouncing at them.

    Six months on, he's still interested in the cats, and will try and get them to interact with him, but they're unfussed. One of them quite likes him and will rub herself off him, but still defend herself by smacking him in the face if he tries anything (he has a tendancy to 'butt' or nudge the cats with the end of his muzzle, mouth closed, to see if he can get a reaction. It works. The reaction is usually a hiss and a smack.)

    My cats have their own room where the dog is not allowed and cannot physically get in (by means of a baby gate) so they have sanctuary where they know he can't bother them. That sanctuary has helped a lot.

    However I have a large dog - a mutt, basically, a stunning mongrel of dubious origin - who has proven to have a prey drive as he's grown up. It's up to me to put a hell of a lot of work into the first 18 months of his life to ensure he reaches his young adulthood with a very clear idea that my cats are above him, they're not to be snapped at, not to be chased, and not to be harassed, and any instance of bouncing, snapping, chasing or harassing will be chastised.

    It's difficult, however, because there's a HUGE and exciting reward to be had for the dog by chasing and bouncing at the cats. The excitement of the negative reaction is his reward, so I have to step in before they even react to him - because that's what he loves. He bounces around huffing and squatting and then darting away while the cat becomes more and more agitated, and it's a great game altogether. It's up to me to stop that game happening so he never gets the reward.

    If you pick a mutt from a shelter, do not underestimate the potential for him to have a prey drive regardless of what breeds you think are in there. Shelter dogs are in an unnatural environment and often behave differently - there are so many animals around them and it's such a scary environment that their natural dog aggressive or prey drive can be very muted and their confidence can be low. Get them into your house for two weeks, feed them up, give them love, and then watch them suddenly barrel after your cat in joyous exultation one day because their confidence has grown and their natural tendancies are coming out.

    I've had my bull arab x since he was 12 weeks old, and there's not a resource guarding bone in his body, but all but one of the cats were adults before I introduced him to the house, and they have their own minds in terms of how they feel about him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭cocker5


    Dilbert75 wrote: »
    Howdy folks. Having thoughts about getting a dog. Have 3 kids (youngest 5) and a (very nervous) cat to consider. My wife particularly loves Golden Retrievers, while I've a fondness for Spaniels.

    Thing is that both myself and my wife do a wee bit of running - one or other of us will go running almost every day - and I was thinking it'd be nice if we could get a dog who could run with us. Distances would be up to 12k, for about an hour.

    Are there any breeds which would be able for this? There is a perception that greyhounds and whippets would be ideal but I understand they are not great for any distance - correct? We could accomodate a retriever but not really any larger and we would have to get a small pup, as we think our cat would need to get to know him/her when its small and get used to them as they grow.

    I've probably not listed some other things but I don't think I've omitted anything key to this particular aspect of the decision. Any thoughts?

    def not a puppy... this would mean serious over excerising... they cannot run this amount until well into adulthood... around two years...i have a cocker spaniel he is 6 years of age now...(hence the name), i run 6 k four times a week with him and he loves it :D he would keep on going and going.. but im trying to built myself up to more than 6 k.... when we get home he flakes out by the fire all evening.. spaniels are excellent dogs... great personalities too :p i would def say adopt a spaniel.. lots of them are cat friendly.. plus you dont have all the halle of the puppy stage... while they are extermely cute... the stress and work last two / three years until they mature... my cocker was the devil puppy until around 18 months, from crying, to chewing, wrecking everything he came in contact with etc... to digging the entire garden.... i love him loads really... ;)

    the love to run and run... so from experience i would def recommened a spaniel... ... i would also say if your gonna to run your dog make sure you give him / her some extra help with their joints... ie i give my guy a tine of sardines one per week in oil.. this is great for his coat and joints...

    best of luck... and well done for looking into getting a dog that can be involved in all areas of your life ie your exercise... :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 560 ✭✭✭madon


    I have a husky cross and run with him, both of us started canicross at the same time so both built our fitness up together. We go up to 10k at the minute but hope to go longer distance and try for a half marathon later in the year (but don't qoute me on that:D)
    Any breed can run as long as the dog isn't under a year.
    You have to build up their fitness though especially if you are already running long distances (we started doing the C25K!!)
    Please don't run the dog using a neck collar- there is harness you can get as well as belts for yourself and bungee leads for taking the impact! I don't know if i can give a link to where I got my stuff? but I can remove it if mods request-
    www.countryhounds.ie
    Also be careful in warm weather dogs overheat quicker and in lower temperatures than humans do so read up on how to spot signs of heat exhaustion.
    There is a club where you can get advice on canicross www.tailsandtrails.ie
    you can talk with other canicrossers there- it is a very popular past time and its amazing how many people actually do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭Tranceypoo


    Just another thing to add on to the cat situation, I would think that having a puppy would be more stressful for the cat than an older dog that ignores her, a puppy by definition will be inquisitive and wanting to play and you'll have a hard time getting pup to leave the cat alone, especially if she just 'goes into shock' as you said rather than giving him a swift punch round the chops to put pup in it's place, also, you will be giving a lot of attention to the pup for training, housebreaking etc etc, if you think that any dog will cause her grief/stress then surely it would be better to get an older dog so you would then find it easier to give the cat extra attention etc as Sweeper mentions in the above post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 67 ✭✭timshel.


    Dogs in Distress have lots of pups lookin to be rehomed. this little guy currently lives with a cat (see pics) and by all accounts a pointer / collie cross could be good for running...

    http://www.dogsindistressforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=7280&sid=fbaee5f7f66c7f2b01e434864f494e81


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Thank you all for your very excellent advice. Aside from the recommendations of specific breeds, there has been some very good information posted here and I appreciate that.:D

    Cat would certainly be traumatised. She currently sleeps in a basket at the top of the stairs so I had considered resuscitating a baby gate from the attic to let her have that safe area - interesting that from successful experience its been recommended above. Her food and toilet areas, however, are under the stairs (I can put a door on them, so inside she'd be safe but she'd still have to have access and egress), so I'm concerned that she'd starve herself until the dog was out.

    Cat has never successfully interacted with a dog. The perspectives about small pup vs. mature dog are interesting also. I think it'd be easier for her physically if she was bigger than the pup initially and got used to it as it grew. But then the pup will want to play / investigate, as described. And there's the "fun" of maturing the pup.:rolleyes:

    The exercise notes are certainly irrefutable - no way I could run a small pup for any distance for quite a while - that's what brings me down on the side of the more mature "couldn't be ar$ed about cats" dog.

    As in so many things, there's no one right answer. What we need to do now is make our decision in the light of all this good advice with the good of our cat, our family and the prospective dog in mind. Sounds so easy....:confused:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 486 ✭✭faw1tytowers


    Ideal dog would be a dalmation. They are carraige dogs, breed to run along side horse and carraige. Lovely breed and at the moment there is one in Madra rescue and ive seen a liver spotted pup in a rescue but cant remember which
    one. They are a head strong breed so make sure you do you research.

    Dog Breeds that Make Great Running Companions

    Labrador Retriever
    Australian Shepherd
    Border Collie
    Vizsla
    German Shepherd
    Doberman Pinscher
    Rhodesian Ridgeback
    Dalmation
    Huskies
    Boxers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 903 ✭✭✭bernardo mac


    labrador/beagle cross.Runs for fun


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16 Artistic_Love


    Labradoodles (a cross between a labrador and a poodle) are a "breed" that I couldn't recommend highly enough. They have vast amounts of energy, so they're ideal exercise/running dogs (and as such, need some amount of space nearby to exert the energy!) and they're perfect family pets. They're incredibly loyal and gentle, so with children (and other animals) they're fantastic. They're also very smart and easy to train, which makes things a lot easier. They grow to being about the size of a springer spaniel.

    My experience would also suggest that they best dogs are the rescue-dogs. You should check our Sharpeshill Animal Sanctuary. They always have alot of beautiful dogs waiting to be re-homed. http://www.wicklowspca.org/

    **EDIT** Just checked the site (dunno why because it makes me sad that I can't currently adopt more!), and there's several that could be perfect for what you say you're looking for...Hope you'll consider it :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Huskies on the whole aren't great with cats, so particularly if you're getting a rescue, I would not go for a Husky because of that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭toadfly


    If you get a rescue that has been in foster with cats it would make more sense IMO than getting a puppy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    TillyGirl wrote: »
    But if you get a rescue that has been in foster with cats it would make more sense IMO than getting a puppy.

    Yes, but not a husky, I would never rehome an adult husky to somebody with a cat, especially not a nervous cat like this one, unless they had huskies before, and knew exactly what was needed for the two animals to live in the same house. Someone had an 18 year old cat and two 9 year old huskies that had grown up with the cat. Came home one day to find the cat had been killed by the dogs. An experienced husky owner, but never, ever leave a husky and a cat alone together, it doesn't matter how much you trust that dog.

    We have a locked door (not a shut one, a locked one) at all times - even when we are in the house - between our huskies and cats, and when my cats die, no matter how much I love cats, I will not get another one while I have a husky.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭toadfly


    ISDW wrote: »
    Yes, but not a husky.

    Oh ya I know, just meant in general.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    But it was in reply to me about Huskies specifically ;)

    Even if the rescue was used to cats, I would not risk it, particularly with a nervous cat. Huskies and cats pretty much just do not mix. The cat is nervous and will bolt, and the Husky will run after it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,412 ✭✭✭toadfly


    koneko wrote: »
    But it was in reply to me about Huskies specifically ;)

    Sorry I didnt really mean in response to you ;) have edited my post.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭ISDW


    TillyGirl wrote: »
    Sorry I didnt really mean in response to you ;) have edited my post.

    But now my post will look silly, cos I replied to yours:P I quoted you, so its still out there;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,724 ✭✭✭Dilbert75


    Can I wrap up this section of the discussion by pointing out that I will not be getting a Husky or any relative of a Husky because I suspect it would probably eat the cat?:rolleyes:


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