The Roisin increases prices after midnight

kraggy

Did you know this?

I think it's scandalous in this economic climate. And it's only barely metioned on their price list at the door. No sign at the bar. Who looks at prices on the way in somewhere anyway?

I think price increases after midnight in any bar should be banned as by that stage, people are well on it and less likely to notice.

How is it justified? They're cleaning up as it is, being the only late bar on a Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, as far I know.

What ye think?

witnessrenegade

The increase is for paying for the late licence which is around 240 to 300 a night, and if the Roisin were raking it in why have they had to shut the bottom part on nights during the week when it's quiet, it's the same in many pub's across the country

ronnie3585

Don't most pubs do this?

Hardly scandalous.

kraggy

witnessrenegade wrote: »

The increase is for paying for the late licence which is around 240 to 300 a night, and if the Roisin were raking it in why have they had to shut the bottom part on nights during the week when it's quiet, it's the same in many pub's across the country

Other bars don't increase the price of a drink after midnight when they stay open late.

I haven't seen the bottom part closed any time lately. I was there on Wednesday night this week and a Tuesday last week or the week before. No area was closed off.

Also, my main issue is the fact that customers are not made aware of it. Even if they had a sign up nforming people, that would be something. But the fact that it's so covert is off-putting.

happyoutscan

Agree completely even though i don't go near the place anymore.

barryd09

Dont go.

Or

Bring your own drink.

Raging_Ninja

Its unlawful (or so I've been led to believe) for them to increase prices without a notice. The way pubs do things (or so I've been told) is to have the cheaper prices up outside to attract the crowd, then have the more expensive prices printed inside the door.

Its not only pubs that do this either - taxis and some fast food restaurants (Eddie Rockets) do it (or at least did it) as well.

snubbleste

OP stated the price is advertised before entering the establishment:
And it's only barely metioned on their price list at the door

I don't see what the issue is, people have a choice in where to go. Publicans can charge wahtever they like, nobody is forced to go to any pub.

emptybladder

kraggy wrote: »

Other bars don't increase the price of a drink after midnight when they stay open late.

You're wrong there. Nearly all the late bars jack up the prices to cover the licence. IIRC, the dail doesnt. Do a search and there's a thread from about 18 months ago. Its nothing new and i'm not sure what you want 'banned'. If you have a problem, go to another pub.

skelliser

i noticed last weekend that masimos do this as well.

cheesemaker

The place has always been a rip off since they did it up.
Mad money for booze in there

kraggy

snubbleste wrote: »

OP stated the price is advertised before entering the establishment:
And it's only barely metioned on their price list at the door

I don't see what the issue is, people have a choice in where to go. Publicans can charge wahtever they like, nobody is forced to go to any pub.

The issue is not alerting people to the fact that an increase in price on something they been buying all evening is going up after midnight.

I understand the increase in price, but not telling people that there's a price increase is sneaky.

Like I said, if they had a sign up saying, "look guys, we have to pay extra so that you guys can drink later, therefore, prices need to go up after midnight to allow for this. We appreciate your understanding."

lmtduffy

cheesemaker wrote: »

The place has always been a rip off since they did it up.
Mad money for booze in there

It really isn't, it's about 50c cheaper per drink than almost any other place open as long or as often as they are.

Fionn MacCool

It's slimey as f*** but what do you expect from businesses in this country?

It's also a legal requirement that they display a price list (usually that tiny framed poster at the end of the bar) - I assume the Roisin goes around and changes these displayed prices come midnight?

Mrs OBumble

kraggy wrote: »

... by that stage, people are well on it and less likely to notice.

If people are "well on it", it's actually illegal to serve 'em.

Somehow I don't think that pricing is the problem here.

cheesemaker

lmtduffy wrote: »

It really isn't, it's about 50c cheaper per drink than almost any other place open as long or as often as they are.

If thats true.
Being 50c cheaper then the rest of the pubs in Galway hardly constitutes not being a rip off does it?

kraggy

JustMary wrote: »

If people are "well on it", it's actually illegal to serve 'em.

Somehow I don't think that pricing is the problem here.

I mean having a good time, ignoring non-important things cause they're on a night out.

Not intoxicated into oblivion.

You know exactly what I mean.

If you claim not to, are you telling me that you are constantly on the look out for facts and figures and pricing after, say, 4 drinks?

Going out is done, by most folk, at the weekend when people are unwinding after a hard week's work. They shouldn't have to be on constant watch to make sure they're not getting into an arrangement whereby they're not fully informed of the conditions.

This is not a stab at the Roisin in particular. The Roisin is an example that I've become aware of this week. Any other establishment that practices the same minimum-information-delivery behaviour is just as bad.

I simply think that the law should state that relative information should be more obviously displayed i.e. at the bar where people are making their purchases, not on a notice below hip level, on the left, before you go in the main door (have a look next time you're going into the Roisin).

lmtduffy

cheesemaker wrote: »

If thats true.
Being 50c cheaper then the rest of the pubs in Galway hardly constitutes not being a rip off does it?

So what other pubs do you compare a Galway pub to, to decide if it is a rip-off in Galway?

dinneenp

It's illegal to serve anyone who is drunk so I presume they refuse anyone who is "well on". That is an actual law but could you imagine any establishment doing that/not breaking the law.

Used to be a regular until they changed it but can't stand the place now.

Anima

lmtduffy wrote: »

It really isn't, it's about 50c cheaper per drink than almost any other place open as long or as often as they are.

It's not, most decent beers like Hoegaarden or Erdinger are cheaper elsewhere. Even the bavaria is like 3.20-3.40 where its 3e in most other places.

philbo

kraggy wrote: »

I mean having a good time, ignoring non-important things cause they're on a night out....
If you claim not to, are you telling me that you are constantly on the look out for facts and figures and pricing after, say, 4 drinks?

You mean like a sign that would say

"look guys, we have to pay extra so that you guys can drink later, therefore, prices need to go up after midnight to allow for this. We appreciate your understanding."

snubbleste

philbo wrote: »

"look guys, we have to pay extra so that you guys can drink later, therefore, prices need to go up after midnight to allow for this. We appreciate your understanding."

In a 6 metre high, 4 metre wide flashing blue/red neon sign

Jagle

dinneenp wrote: »

It's illegal to serve anyone who is drunk

in the barmans opinion

Raging_Ninja

Jagle wrote: »

in the barmans opinion

And when that happens usually all sorts of hilarity ensues.

Jagle

Raging_Ninja wrote: »

And when that happens usually all sorts of hilarity ensues.

maybe its a non galway thing but all the barmen i know are pretty good for this, i mean none wants to be cleaning up your puke and what not

kraggy

snubbleste wrote: »

OP stated the price is advertised before entering the establishment:
And it's only barely metioned on their price list at the door

I don't see what the issue is, people have a choice in where to go. Publicans can charge wahtever they like, nobody is forced to go to any pub.

That's absolutley true.

However, customers have a right to be clear about what price they're paying, and in particular, that the price for the same price has increased between 11.59pm and 00.00a.m.

What happened my post above by the way, it seems to have been edited. Can you pm me Biko?

biko

No editing done.

Fighting Irish

kraggy wrote: »

Did you know this?

I think it's scandalous in this economic climate. And it's only barely metioned on their price list at the door. No sign at the bar. Who looks at prices on the way in somewhere anyway?

I think price increases after midnight in any bar should be banned as by that stage, people are well on it and less likely to notice.

How is it justified? They're cleaning up as it is, being the only late bar on a Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, as far I know.

What ye think?

I think fair fooks to them for making money

cheesemaker

lmtduffy wrote: »

So what other pubs do you compare a Galway pub to, to decide if it is a rip-off in Galway?

99% of pubs in town are a rip off.
If the Roisin is 50c cheaper. Its still a rip off because the prices are so inflated in the first place.

lmtduffy

cheesemaker wrote: »

99% of pubs in town are a rip off.
If the Roisin is 50c cheaper. Its still a rip off because the prices are so inflated in the first place.

Compared to where?

kraggy

snubbleste wrote: »

OP stated the price is advertised before entering the establishment:
And it's only barely metioned on their price list at the door

I don't see what the issue is, people have a choice in where to go. Publicans can charge wahtever they like, nobody is forced to go to any pub.

Yes indeed. And it's my choice to go there. So I go, under the illusion that when I start buying a product at 11pm that I'll be paying the same price for that product 1 hour later.

Like I've said numerous times, it's the fact that the customers are not openly informed.

lmtduffy

Anima wrote: »

It's not, most decent beers like Hoegaarden or Erdinger are cheaper elsewhere. Even the bavaria is like 3.20-3.40 where its 3e in most other places.

And in a lot of other places you wont get Hoegaarden or Erdinger, it is still by and large cheaper or at least on par with anywhere else open as late and as often as they are.

Fionn MacCool

lmtduffy wrote: »

And in a lot of other places you wont get Hoegaarden or Erdinger, it is still by and large cheaper or at least on par with anywhere else open as late and as often as they are.

Ah the chosen beer of The Ponce.

lmtduffy

Fionn MacCool wrote: »

Ah the chosen beer of The Ponce.

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OldAtHeart

To be fair, if you were having a good time with your mates and the Roisin suddenly said at 2am that they'd serve you for another hour, except the price of the pint would go u by another 50cent, you'd still pay the extra money. When 12am hits, there isnt a hell of alot of choice to go anymore with pub closures, etc. So if you are having a good time in there, why not stay and have the craic instead of going somewhere else that may be slightly cheaper. The majority of the eople that go to the Roisin have been for years and the increase in price at midnight has been in place for years and they all know this.

Just my two cents (or is that 50cents?)

cheesemaker

lmtduffy wrote: »

Compared to where?

??

Compared to no where.
Its a rip off

lmtduffy

cheesemaker wrote: »

??

Compared to no where.
Its a rip off

Sorry to put you so aghast by asking you to substantiate your claim, but where else in Galway provides a similar service and offers drinks at a cheaper price?

cheesemaker

Go read the thread again.

lmtduffy

cheesemaker wrote: »

Go read the thread again.

You concede, I accept.

Mrs OBumble

Jagle wrote: »

maybe its a non galway thing but all the barmen i know are pretty good for this, i mean none wants to be cleaning up your puke and what not

+1

They have a good sense of who's going to be trouble, and who they can get away with keeping on serving even though they're wobbling.

I got a lot of entertainment watching people (non-regulars to the establishment concerned) being refused on New Year's Eve.

kraggy

OldAtHeart wrote: »

To be fair, if you were having a good time with your mates and the Roisin suddenly said at 2am that they'd serve you for another hour, except the price of the pint would go u by another 50cent, you'd still pay the extra money. When 12am hits, there isnt a hell of alot of choice to go anymore with pub closures, etc. So if you are having a good time in there, why not stay and have the craic instead of going somewhere else that may be slightly cheaper. The majority of the eople that go to the Roisin have been for years and the increase in price at midnight has been in place for years and they all know this.

Just my two cents (or is that 50cents?)

See the part in bold? That's exactly the problem I have with this. THEY DON'T TELL YOU THERE'S A PRICE INCREASE. As I said already, if they had informed people openly, I'd have no problem with it. I have no personal grudge towards besides this issue.

I've been going to the Roisin since 1995. That's 16 years. I only found out about the price increase recently.

philbo

Personally, I've found the security staff in the Roisin to be really on the ball when it comes to folks who are too drunk, or are about to start trouble. Never really seen any fights any of the times I've been in there. It's not just down to the barman to judge whether the person has had too much!

kraggy

kraggy wrote: »

See the part in bold? That's exactly the problem I have with this. THEY DON'T TELL YOU THERE'S A PRICE INCREASE. As I said already, if they had informed people openly, I'd have no problem with it. I have no personal grudge towards besides this issue.

I've been going to the Roisin since 1995. That's 16 years. I only found out about the price increase recently.

You said there's a pricelist at the door so they do tell you, it's just your own fault for not checking.

kraggy

Deleted User wrote: »

You said there's a pricelist at the door so they do tell you, it's just your own fault for not checking.

And did you notice from that same post where the price list is located? Outside the door into the pub, lower than hip level on faded paper.

Do you buy your pints in the porch? No, you buy them at the bar. That's where the price list should be.

philbo

OK. We get it. You've now repeated the same point around 6 or 7 times. What are you suggesting? Why don't you email the Roisin with your concerns and see what their response is? You seem to feel strongly enough about it to moan on here, but what are you actually willing to do about it?

Or is it just a bit of a whiney rant inspired by the embarrassment of not noticing a price increase in your 16 years of attending the same venue?

Fionn MacCool

The Roisin should just put their own spin on it and say they offer a discount on drinks until 12

philbo wrote: »

Personally, I've found the security staff in the Roisin to be really on the ball when it comes to folks who are too drunk, or are about to start trouble. Never really seen any fights any of the times I've been in there. It's not just down to the barman to judge whether the person has had too much!

Never had any trouble with them myself but they've been absolute cocks to people I know. Refused to accept my friend's drivers license before, told him it was fake (it was real and he'd had it for 2 years), then said "well if it's real it would have this hologram on it", shone it under a light, hologram popped up, so he changed his story to my friend being too drunk (I met him about 20 mins after this and he seemed sober, never mind too drunk).

kraggy

philbo wrote: »

OK. We get it. You've now repeated the same point around 6 or 7 times. What are you suggesting? Why don't you email the Roisin with your concerns and see what their response is? You seem to feel strongly enough about it to moan on here, but what are you actually willing to do about it?

Or is it just a bit of a whiney rant inspired by the embarrassment of not noticing a price increase in your 16 years of attending the same venue?

Only 43 posts. Not too much experience on internet forums?

It's a discussion forum. I'm not whining. Merely making a point and making people aware of it.

And checked with Kelly's this evening. They don't increase the price of drinks after midnight when they stay open late.

And like I said, it's not a problem with Roisin's in particular. I have an issue with any bar that increases charges after midnight WITHOUT MAKING IT CLEAR TO CUSTOMERS.

And I have done something about it, but I'm not disclosing it here.

Seems this subject has reached its end on this forum.

Fionn MacCool

Criticising the Roisin will never go down well on here. Somewhat unsurprisingly, it is the pub of choice for message board users*

*well aware I'm one of them, and I quite like the Roisin but don't go there much

thesandeman

kraggy wrote: »

And did you notice from that same post where the price list is located? Outside the door into the pub, lower than hip level on faded paper.

Do you buy your pints in the porch? No, you buy them at the bar. That's where the price list should be.

KD would start a thread complaining if the pricelist was where you want it to be.

kraggy

thesandeman wrote: »

KD would start a thread complaining if the pricelist was where you want it to be.

KD?

Edit, Knacker Dwarf.