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A stone in a week?!

  • 27-01-2011 1:21pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 23


    [FONT=Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial]Hi guys,

    Ive done a search here on cardio and fat loss and I think I have all the info in my head now, I just need to be sure as I have come up against a slight issue...maybe someone here could help me?

    My aim is to lose 2 stone of fat...

    3 months ago I started HIIT bodyweight exercises about 3-4 days per week. I upped my lean protein intake and followed Bodyrock.tv with my little Gymboss Timer, which I found great. I noticed increased muscle mass but no change on the scales or on my overall physique. I wasnt very strict with my diet, portion sizes or my water intake and was not including cardio so I cleaned that up as of last week when I noticed a 2lb loss – happy days.

    As of Monday I switched to doing 20 mins HIIT sprint/walk every day and planned to do weight training sat & sun. My diet this week has been as follows:

    9am – natural yoghurt + 1 banana + handful granola + black coffee
    11am – handful nuts or piece of fruit
    1pm – plain chicken salad or salmon salad or omelet & salad
    4pm – handful nuts or piece of fruit or handful sugar snap peas
    6pm – run
    6.30pm – Minute steak or fish & fresh mixed veg
    + 1.5 litres of water per day

    I went on the scales this morning just to check my progress... I'm a whole stone heavier! I checked the scales twice in shock.

    Im obviously doing something fundamentally wrong but Im not 100% on what it is. I would have thought that going from doing no cardio to doing some cardio would have been somewhat beneficial to my fat loss plans!

    Pardon me if it's really obvious, any input is much appreciated!
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 279 ✭✭Eoinite


    Hi

    You won't see change in physique for a long time. I'm sure all the bodyweight exercises you're currently doing is converting the fat into muscle and as muscle weighs a lot more than fat that's probably the reason for your increase in weight.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Atchoo


    Right, I would have thought so too only I havent done any weights at all this week yet.

    Ill take it the scales are wrong and keep going then. I just wanted to be sure I wasnt killing my progress !


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Atchoo


    thanks by the way mate!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,117 ✭✭✭SanoVitae


    Eoinite wrote: »
    I'm sure all the bodyweight exercises you're currently doing is converting the fat into muscle

    Muscle cannot be converted to fat. Nor is the reverse true.
    Eoinite wrote: »
    as muscle weighs a lot more than fat that's probably the reason for your increase in weight.

    1 pound of muscle weighs the same as 1 pound of fat. Yes, it weighs more per square ounce but people tend to exaggerate this fact when it comes to losing weight.

    OP - If you create a calorie deficit, you will lose weight. If you take in more calories than you use, you will gain weight. It's that simple.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Atchoo


    ok. got it. cheers.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭Burkatron


    Atchoo wrote: »
    [FONT=Calibri, Verdana, Helvetica, Arial]
    I went on the scales this morning just to check my progress... I'm a whole stone heavier! I checked the scales twice in shock.

    Im obviously doing something fundamentally wrong but Im not 100% on what it is. I would have thought that going from doing no cardio to doing some cardio would have been somewhat beneficial to my fat loss plans!

    Pardon me if it's really obvious, any input is much appreciated!
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    Op, sorry if I've missed something, you're saying you weighed yourself last Thursay at the same time, under the same conditions you've gained a whole stone?

    When I say the same conditions for example: you weighed yourself both times straight away when you got up, after you went to the toilet, before breakfast, in the same state of dress or undress,on the same calibrated scales on the same surface?

    These can all be factors if you go by scale weight. Tape measure or calipers (not as easy) are a far better way of tracking progress rather then a weighing scales. Can you notice extra weight anywhere since last week? If not I wouldn't worry about it too much! Weigh yourself tonight before bed & then when you get up! I've often seen half a stone difference between the 2 when preparing for a bjj competition with just sensible eating & no water after 10pm till weigh in time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,420 ✭✭✭Magic Eight Ball


    Eoinite wrote: »
    Hi

    You won't see change in physique for a long time. I'm sure all the bodyweight exercises you're currently doing is converting the fat into muscle and as muscle weighs a lot more than fat that's probably the reason for your increase in weight.

    Take a bow sir!!
    65888d3a.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Atchoo


    Burkatron wrote: »
    after you went to the toilet

    lol - I didnt realise I had to take note of those finer details but it makes sense!

    I actually feel great, much better than I did last week and clothes are not tighter, about the same.

    Ill get the tape measure going and put the scales to one side so!

    Thanks.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 67 ✭✭barnaclebill


    I think it's better if you try to lose wait over a longer time, the faster you lose it the harder it is to keep off. So if you lose 1 stone over 5 months, it will be more likely to stay off


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Atchoo


    I think it's better if you try to lose wait over a longer time, the faster you lose it the harder it is to keep off. So if you lose 1 stone over 5 months, it will be more likely to stay off

    Thanks but I think Ill stick to the measuring tape from now on!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,903 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Water, waste, clothes etc all play a part, but a stone would be a lot.

    I duggest changing the batteries in the scales, or get a new one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,684 ✭✭✭marathonic


    Agreed with Mellor. There's probably something wrong with the scales. You're best to weigh yourself in the mornings, before eating or drinking and wearing similar clothes.

    Just to give you an idea, a pound of fat is 3,500 calories so a stone is 49000 calories. To put on a stone of fat in a week, you'd have to be eating a surplus of 7000 calories per day. That should give you an idea of how impossible it would be that the scales are correct.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 960 ✭✭✭oppiuy


    Ive no hi-tech advice for you only my little story. Weighed myself after Christmas for the first time in a long long time, i knew i was gaining weight and looking like a fat plum but once i saw the scale hit 16 stone 6 and looked in the mirror i was disgusted with myself and it really hit home that i was only going one way. I came on to boards and read loads of threads, found lots of excellent advice but i knew that some routines i just wouldn't stick with. Made a plan for something that would be easy to keep up.
    I started walking in and out of work every day, its about 4.3km each way and eating good foods, smaller potions and cutting out sugar. First week i dropped 6 pounds which was prob water weight from all the bread id stuff my face with. i was delighted and kept the routine up. Every week since then ive dropped 2-3lbs a week and currently at 15-6lb. I look some much better even thou im still a big chap. Im planning to continue the walking and healthy eating until the wight loss levels outs then im gonna add the couch25k plus after a few more weeks HIT.

    I think you really have to change to way you look and your lifestyle for good and not just for a target wight loss. Be as active as you can and enjoy discovering new healthy foods.
    I feel so much better, have so much more energy and looking forward to the benefits of continued work


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,472 ✭✭✭Kev M


    Take a bow sir!!
    65888d3a.jpg


    haha that's my old boss administering the facepalm.. small world!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Atchoo


    [FONT=Optima, Times New Roman]*UPDATE*

    Since my last post I cut out all red meat, dairy and grains (weekend being cheat days), kept focused on portion control as well as increasing resistance training. To date my weight loss has been 1lb on the scales and 0 on the measuring tape....to say I was frustrated and disheartened was putting it lightly!

    I have been allergic to some foods since childhood but recently went for a comprehensive test and the results surprised me. It showed that I had food allergies and intolerances ranging from chicken and cucumber, to tomatoes, coffee and even garlic among others. What I thought were good foods I was putting into my body on a daily basis were actually giving my body allergic reactions such as weight gain, bloating and water retention among other things.

    I am now on an elimination diet along with supplementation and will continue with the workouts... fingers crossed I finally get results this time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Atchoo wrote: »
    [FONT=Optima, Times New Roman]*UPDATE*

    Since my last post I cut out all red meat, dairy and grains (weekend being cheat days), kept focused on portion control as well as increasing resistance training. To date my weight loss has been 1lb on the scales and 0 on the measuring tape....to say I was frustrated and disheartened was putting it lightly!

    I have been allergic to some foods since childhood but recently went for a comprehensive test and the results surprised me. It showed that I had food allergies and intolerances ranging from chicken and cucumber, to tomatoes, coffee and even garlic among others. What I thought were good foods I was putting into my body on a daily basis were actually giving my body allergic reactions such as weight gain, bloating and water retention among other things.

    I am now on an elimination diet along with supplementation and will continue with the workouts... fingers crossed I finally get results this time.


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    Who told you that you were allergic to cucumbers and tomatoes?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Atchoo


    An allergy testing practitioner.

    Plus I break out in rashes and hives everytime I eat them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Atchoo wrote: »
    An allergy testing practitioner.

    Plus I break out in rashes and hives everytime I eat them.

    Do you believe these food allergies are resulting in your poor weight loss and that there are no other reasons?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Atchoo


    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    Atchoo wrote: »
    No

    Fair play.

    What is a normal day like food wise?
    Are you counting calories?
    Have you got the math side of this game down?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Atchoo


    If I did I wouldnt bother working out lol!

    I aim to get in around 1200 kcals.

    I use the My Net Diary app for counting but not entirely sure re the accuracy of it, although I do try to get measurements & portions as exact as possible.

    B/F: 1 tbsp raspberries + 1 banana + 1 tbsp ground flaxseeds
    Snack: mixed nuts & raisins or 1 piece of fruit
    Lunch: Mixed leaf salad, olives, roast peppers + turkey or tuna
    Snack: mixed nuts & raisins or 1 piece of fruit

    Dinner: Mixed veg + portion of fish


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭ldxo15wus6fpgm


    Atchoo wrote: »
    If I did I wouldnt bother working out lol!

    I aim to get in around 1200 kcals.

    I use the My Net Diary app for counting but not entirely sure re the accuracy of it, although I do try to get measurements & portions as exact as possible.

    B/F: 1 tbsp raspberries + 1 banana + 1 tbsp ground flaxseeds
    Snack: mixed nuts & raisins or 1 piece of fruit
    Lunch: Mixed leaf salad, olives, roast peppers + turkey or tuna
    Snack: mixed nuts & raisins or 1 piece of fruit

    Dinner: Mixed veg + portion of fish

    I'm no expert and I'm completely open to correction but imo that is an extremely low amount of calories for your body to work with for a full day, I'd go as far as to say unhealthy. Maybe have some oats in the morning? You could put the fruit in with it for flavouring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,903 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    I'm no expert and I'm completely open to correction but imo that is an extremely low amount of calories for your body to work with for a full day, I'd go as far as to say unhealthy. Maybe have some oats in the morning? You could put the fruit in with it for flavouring.
    Can't really say without knowing the OPs weight activity level.
    Plus aiming for 1200 doesn't mean eating 1200


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23 Atchoo


    Jeepers I dont know about unhealthy...but am also open to correction.

    I use the aforementioned app to calculate calories so Im not 100% sure if it's by the calorie accurate but it's a clean and portion controlled diet.

    Anyway, the above diet is on rest days. Work out days I do eat porridge with oat milk or poached eggs on toast.

    W/O 3x p/w:
    Mon + Fri: HIT resistance using interval timer
    I switch up routine each week using workouts from Bodryrock.tv
    Wed: cardio (4km)

    11st | 5'2" | F

    If I'm doing something wrong here I'm open to making changes


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