Next Firmware Update

PaddyBomb

Is there anything you would like to see in the next update?

Just had to do another update there which added security features. That must be the fourth or fifth update that's been released that added pretty much nothing. It got me thinking what would I want to see in the next one.

I would love to see Skype added in. It's on the PSP already and the mic and PSeye would be perfect for video/voice calls.

Welshman666

yeah I agree Skype would be nice, especially when I currently have my PS3 linked up to my Acer 3D projector at about 100" ha

...would make video calling a new experience :P

Minstrel27

I agree with Skype too. I would also like to see a decent browser. Wasn't there news of Firefox being on the PS3? What happened to that.

PaddyBomb

Minstrel27 wrote: »

I agree with Skype too. I would also like to see a decent browser. Wasn't there news of Firefox being on the PS3? What happened to that.

I heard Safari because the new Bravia internet tellys were coming with it. I would also like to see a new browser on PS3.

Stuxnet

sony dont add features, only take them away

stephendevlin

iPwnage wrote: »

sony dont add features, only take them away

I agree.. All it will be is security add ons...

:(:(:(

Skype has been a topic for years . Cant see it happening. Bit like O2 and a ready to go data add on.

Sephiroth_dude

Whats with all the security features?it took about 30 mins to download that update and install :O

stephendevlin

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Whats with all the security features?it took about 30 mins to download that update and install :O

So you cant do homebrews or play cracked games on it buggers

Varik

PaddyBomb wrote: »

I heard Safari because the new Bravia internet tellys were coming with it. I would also like to see a new browser on PS3.

I think your thinking of chrome, sony are working with google for their high end tvs.

stephendevlin wrote: »

So you cant do homebrews or play cracked games on it buggers

They have it on the PSP but i don't think Sony see much of a demand for it.

stephendevlin

Varik wrote: »

They have it on the PSP but i don't think Sony see much of a demand for it.

EH??? People have been crying about it for years.

I personally would live to see it on PS3. Video chat from my 40" would be a great setup.

Sephiroth_dude

stephendevlin wrote: »

EH??? People have been crying about it for years.

I personally would live to see it on PS3. Video chat from my 40" would be a great setup.

It would be indeed

stephendevlin

http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=97762&st=160&

:D People whinging since 2007/2008

Varik

stephendevlin wrote: »

EH??? People have been crying about it for years.

I personally would live to see it on PS3. Video chat from my 40" would be a great setup.

Cross game chat has be requested for much longer than skype and to a much higher degree, skype was ranked 14th in feature users requested.

PerrinV2

Can I download this update off the sony website and put it onto a usb key or do I have to downlad it via my ps3?

Varik

PerrinV2 wrote: »

Can I download this update off the sony website and put it onto a usb key or do I have to downlad it via my ps3?

both will work.

Mperrozzi

Will these new security features prevent 10 year olds hacking games such as mw2 ?

Josey Wales

I would just be happy if they would update the PSN to sort out download speeds. If I tried to download this security update on the PS3 it would take about 8 or 9 hours. It only took about 9 minutes on my Macbook.

Varik

Josey Wales wrote: »

I would just be happy if they would update the PSN to sort out download speeds. If I tried to download this security update on the PS3 it would take about 8 or 9 hours. It only took about 9 minutes on my Macbook.

I took less than a minute for me on my PS3 the install took longer.

eddhorse

PSX SCENE :

As expected, the new firmware kills all homebrew. The update includes a new .self file with a new, previously unknown, key inside. This means all homebrew tools will have to be updated in order to restore functionality.

Varik

eddhorse wrote: »

PSX SCENE :

Also some reports of it leading to bricks if you update from cfw 3.55 before going back to an ofw.

Josey Wales

Varik wrote: »

I took less than a minute for me on my PS3 the install took longer.

Wish I knew why my speeds for the PSN are so slow. Downloading anything from the store takes an age.

Playing online is fine though.

F1ngers

Varik wrote: »

I took less than a minute for me on my PS3 the install took longer.

Same for me, few mins to d/l and install.

Josey Wales wrote: »

Wish I knew why my speeds for the PSN are so slow. Downloading anything from the store takes an age.

Playing online is fine though.

Many factors, wired or wireless. Wireless = slower.
ISP speeds. I'm with UPC and have their 30Mb/3Mb package, am wireless but PS3 is right beside router.
Do a connection test on your PS3 and see what speeds it indicates.

Although I'm on the 30Mb package my d/l speed on the PS3 is 12.5Mbps and u/l is 2.8Mbps. (Wireless).

lemeister

A better media player would be nice. Navigation is such a pain when you have a lot of music stored

irish_stevo815

lemeister wrote: »

A better media player would be nice. Navigation is such a pain when you have a lot of music stored

This. And also make the XMB a bit faster and a bit more responsive. I get tired of looking at the spinning loading icon thing when waiting for the XMB to load up. Also would it it possible to do 2 things at once - i.e change settings or browse web without having ot quit your current game/dvd/blu-ray??

Myrddin

eddhorse wrote: »

PSX SCENE :

It's already been decrypted, but thankfully the dev who did it (Kakaroto) stated on twitter he's no intention of looking further into it. He's focusing on 3.55 for now, because he believes users should have to make a choice. PSN or Homebrew, not both. I think it's a perfect tradeoff, because folks who use PSN (free service) to play free (pirated) games are just taking the p1ss altogether.

Unfortunately, there are devs out there with the same level of competence, but lacking the ethical view on it. It's really a waste of time for Sony to continue releasing firmware updates, the consoles root key has been calculated and it's only an inconvenience to the normal joe soaps having to upgrade to something that's inherently insecure & will be hacked again & again. Sony need to focus their efforts on stringent PSN rules & console bannings. That being said, COD hackers have had permanent bans form the COD servers issued recently. That's the only way Sony can hope to resolve anything from this whole situation.

gstar

my requests would include:

• cross-game voice chat
• new browser (one that actually works with YouTube; especially as thats a specific feature they advertise on the PS3 packaging!)
• voice messages
• something to make the XMB quicker at processing requests. playing batman arkham asylum/heavy rain and trying to text someone in between used to break my heart cos it was sooooo sloooooowww
• being able to alter settings without having to quit applications all the time god damn it

we dont ask for much in fairness

Sephiroth_dude

Well in fairness they did add the rte player :pac:

johnmcdnl

well i just wish it didn't brick consoles because the user had the cheek to try to upgrade the hdd...

:(:(:(:(

stephendevlin

johnmcdnl wrote: »

well i just wish it didn't brick consoles because the user had the cheek to try to upgrade the hdd...

:(:(:(:(

Eh?? Plenty have upgraded no issues. You sure its not a user fault?

Varik

stephendevlin wrote: »

Eh?? Plenty have upgraded no issues. You sure its not a user fault?

mine has a new HDD and worked fine.

WolfForager

BOOM!

3.56 introduced a root kit to the PS3 code, basically allowing Sony to check your PS3 security and make sure that your not running Homebrew.

This is awesome for two reasons, the Homebrewers get to use there PS3 for whatever reason they like and the average joe soap gamer like myself can play online without hackers ruining my experience! Win-Win!

Varik

Sony informed developers of a new feature for the PlayStation 3: the ability to save games in the "cloud", but only be made available to PlayStation Plus subscribers and not to the dregs of PSN.

Actually, there's another catche, because saving games to the cloud "will allow save data with the copy prohibited attribute to be copied into the online storage", developers are able to opt out and bar their games from using it should there be a concern.

Sony will call the process "Online Saving", and it'll be made available as part of the PS3's upcoming 3.60 firmware update.

thebman

gstar wrote: »

my requests would include:

• cross-game voice chat
• new browser (one that actually works with YouTube; especially as thats a specific feature they advertise on the PS3 packaging!)
• voice messages
• something to make the XMB quicker at processing requests. playing batman arkham asylum/heavy rain and trying to text someone in between used to break my heart cos it was sooooo sloooooowww
• being able to alter settings without having to quit applications all the time god damn it

we dont ask for much in fairness

The no youtube/flash support thing is mostly an adobe problem and one of the things the new HTML5 video tag is designed to remove. Youtube has some limited support for this so if Sony upgrade the browser to support HTML5 standards then it will start working with Youtube again I believe.

They should do this and as the PS3 browser most likely uses webkit as its rendering engine, it shouldn't be too hard to upgrade.

NUTZZ

Looks like its been hacked already....that was quick! :eek:

Hackers say they unlocked the latest firmware for the PlayStation 3 game console, less than 24 hours after Sony released it in a desperate attempt to stuff the jailbreaking genie back in the bottle.

Sony announced the release of Version 3.56 on Wednesday. That same day, game console hacker Youness Alaoui, aka KaKaRoToKS, tweeted that he had released the tools to unpack the files, allowing him to uncover the new version's signing keys.

The hack is the latest volley in Sony's never-ending campaign to lock down the PS3 so only authorized (read: sponsored) games and software run on the console. In the crosshairs are some of the PS3's most enthusiastic users, who want to dissolve the artificial shackles so they can run homebrewed software and other customized software on the hardware they legally own.

The hack underscores the futility of Sony's legal maneuvers. It came 24 hours before a federal judge ordered the seizure of computers belonging to George Hotz, one of the hackers who unlocked Version 3.55 and published the key used to sign authorized games. In other words, before the draconian temporary restraining order even went into effect, the PS3 baton had already been passed to another hacker, who was under no such restrictions.

One can imagine this pattern playing out indefinitely.

So far, Alaoui has released only the signing keys for 3.56, which have since been removed from Github.com following copyright take-down demands. Determined gamers can still find the data in underground sites, including on Gitorious.org. It's now a matter of someone using the key to create a customized version of the firmware and releasing it. That hasn't happened yet, although there are reports of several hoaxes offering fakes.

According to unconfirmed reports, Version 3.56 contains hidden functionality that allows Sony to scan PS3 consoles for custom firmware and other unauthorized software and report the results back to the company. Sony reportedly can modify the scanner anytime it wants to, without having to update the firmware. Microsoft is said to have put similar features in its Xbox 360 so it can ban modded consoles from its gaming network.

Version 3.56 also introduces a significantly re-engineered private encryption key that makes it next to impossible to roll back the update. PS3 users with older firmware are required to update if they want to continue using the PlayStation Network. ®

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Headshot

there goes playing cod games online without hacked lobbies

****ing ***** have ruined multi player games

aN.Droid

This whole rootkit business is taking the p1ss .I cannot believe sony would go so far as to install what is basically a trojan onto our systems. While sony might say they will only use it for scanning for modified code and pirated games what is to stop them from doing other things such as recording our actions in the xmb or key logging our passwords from the web? not saying they will but it is entirely possible

They keep digging there hole deeper. no doubt the dev's who said they would stick with 3.55 will now be moving onto 3.56 to get rid of this security "enhancement"

ANY external code can be executed by sony. This could be the start of a "kill switch" Can't wait for the devs to find a way to remove this.

WolfForager

I say the homebrewers just f off and leave it alone. Sony aren't gonna quit and in the mean time it's ruining gaming for you average John Doe who likes nothing more than to go home and play a bit of BFBC2 and Blops.

Trevor451

Call of duty MW2 was hacked long before all of the exploits started to come out :rolleyes: I would suggest getting better FPS games IMO

WolfForager

Or i'd suggest that the Homebrewers just use their almost assuredly faster PCs for emulation and what not, rather than a system that should be closed.

Really? Why would someone want to hack a PS3 other than for piracy when your PC can do everything else?

G-Money

Better codec support would be something I'd like to see. Been quite a few times when I go to play a song or film and the PS3 basically complains saying and won't play the format, even though it works fine on Windows Media Player.

GEasy

Trevor451 wrote: »

Call of duty MW2 was hacked long before all of the exploits started to come out :rolleyes: I would suggest getting better FPS games IMO

Nah, I was never dumped into a hacked lobby before the private keys were released.

Sure there were 10th prestige lobbies scattered here and there, but they were private matches for the most part.

Now it's every other game.

Myrddin

Guys this news isn't posted on any of the 'scene' sites. I've a feeling this is a case of "techie reporter gets the story wrong". I may be wrong, but if this was true you wouldn't read about it on Toms Hardware first.

The firmware was decrytped a day after its release. We (collectively) can, & always will be able to decrypt firmware packages. We cannot, however, resign them with the keys 3.56 introduced (as of yet). With the new keys implemented, Sony introduced a thing called a whitelist. This list is a reference, that the console uses for older programs/games that don't have the new keys (it's why stuff on .56 keys still works, anything with .56 keys will be on the whitelist, if it's not it won't be allowed to run).

The random value bug has been corrected, new keys have been implemented, & all coupled with a whitelist. The new keys are still retrieveable with the right tools, which are in the possession of fail0verflow & GeoHot...I wouldn't bank on them being released any time soon.

We can however decrypt them, patch out the security calls, & resign them with 3.55 keys for installation on that firmware (well any firmware up to & including 3.55). This is why the rootkit thing was brought into play. Sony now have the ability to run code on your console for PSN authentication. This check, will likely detect a patched out 3.56 & refuse PSN access. So in all likelyhood, there won't ever be another CFW that you can use for PSN (and rightly so). It's clear cut now, choose PSN or CFW. If you want both, buy a 2nd PS3. That may change in the future, we've already started to see dev's being listed as anonymous for fear of legal troubles, but for the moment there is no 3.56CFW, and due to the rootkit check, I can't see there ever will be. The rootkit routines are not yet active according to Mathieulh, which is why DNS/proxies are still working.

So again, to the best of my knowledge, the articles have got the wrong end of the stick.

Varik

3.56 got released again, Sony like using the same file version after fixing the HDD problem.

Myrddin

Varik wrote: »

3.56 got released again, Sony like using the same file version after fixing the HDD problem.

Well there's nothing new in it (which isn't entirely news really) aside from a bugfix. There's no reason to call it anything else, maybe 3.56v2 or something, but PSN users will get prompted to update again I presume?

GEasy

EnterNow wrote: »

Guys this news isn't posted on any of the 'scene' sites. I've a feeling this is a case of "techie reporter gets the story wrong". I may be wrong, but if this was true you wouldn't read about it on Toms Hardware first.

The firmware was decrytped a day after its release. We (collectively) can, & always will be able to decrypt firmware packages. We cannot, however, resign them with the keys 3.56 introduced (as of yet). With the new keys implemented, Sony introduced a thing called a whitelist. This list is a reference, that the console uses for older programs/games that don't have the new keys (it's why stuff on .56 keys still works, anything with .56 keys will be on the whitelist, if it's not it won't be allowed to run).

The random value bug has been corrected, new keys have been implemented, & all coupled with a whitelist. The new keys are still retrieveable with the right tools, which are in the possession of fail0verflow & GeoHot...I wouldn't bank on them being released any time soon.

We can however decrypt them, patch out the security calls, & resign them with 3.55 keys for installation on that firmware (well any firmware up to & including 3.55). This is why the rootkit thing was brought into play. Sony now have the ability to run code on your console for PSN authentication. This check, will likely detect a patched out 3.56 & refuse PSN access. So in all likelyhood, there won't ever be another CFW that you can use for PSN (and rightly so). It's clear cut now, choose PSN or CFW. If you want both, buy a 2nd PS3. That may change in the future, we've already started to see dev's being listed as anonymous for fear of legal troubles, but for the moment there is no 3.56CFW, and due to the rootkit check, I can't see there ever will be. The rootkit routines are not yet active according to Mathieulh, which is why DNS/proxies are still working.

So again, to the best of my knowledge, the articles have got the wrong end of the stick.

I hope you're right. ****ing hacking *****.

Myrddin

LakesKeane wrote: »

I hope you're right. ****ing hacking *****.

If your assuming everyone with CFW cheats at games, or are even remotely interested in games, your wrong. Firmware & Games are two very different things, & not always related.

GEasy

EnterNow wrote: »

If your assuming everyone with CFW cheats at games, or are even remotely interested in games, your wrong. Firmware & Games are two very different things, & not always related.

I know there are many that do it for all the cool homebrew stuff. I have no problem with that. People should be allowed do what they want with their systems.

It's the people who go online with wall-hacks etc that I hate.

I hope that there's a solution that suits both the online gamers and the homebrew scene.

Myrddin

LakesKeane wrote: »

I know there are many that do it for all the cool homebrew stuff. I have no problem with that. People should be allowed do what they want with their systems.

It's the people who go online with wall-hacks etc that I hate.

I hope that there's a solution that suits both the online gamers and the homebrew scene.

I agree wholeheartidly

I've modded just about every mainstream console there is at this point, but I've no PSN account nor do I have an XBL account. It just gets under my skin when people just assume because your console is modded in some form, your a pirating cheating thieving amoral gamer There is a distinction, and what I'd call the 'Joe Duffy' types never seem to make it - or even want to hear it.

GEasy

EnterNow wrote: »

I agree wholeheartidly

I've modded just about every mainstream console there is at this point, but I've no PSN account nor do I have an XBL account. It just gets under my skin when people just assume because your console is modded in some form, your a pirating cheating thieving amoral gamer There is a distinction, and what I'd call the 'Joe Duffy' types never seem to make it - or even want to hear it.

Yes, I like to call them "backward". Akin to something like this



A horse with blinders, unwilliing to look at something from another perspective.

Gets on my tits

Myrddin

WolfForager wrote: »

Really? Why would someone want to hack a PS3 other than for piracy when your PC can do everything else?

Well let me give you a couple of theoretical examples

1) Maybe I don't want to submit to forced firmware updates, to play a game I bought on the console I bought.

2) Maybe I'm afraid what the next firmware 'update' will remove (unlicensed controllers that I've bought won't work for example, I'm willing to risk my joypad exploding)

3) Maybe I'm interested in media applications, such as the forthcoming Media Center with native mkv & NTFS support. Sony certainly don't offer me that feature, so perhaps I should look at cfw for my needs? Link

4) Maybe my 8 year old laptop isn't as powerful as my PS3, & all the new emulators are very appealing to me.

5) Maybe I've an interest in programming, & want to try my hand at programming for the PS3's architecture. I own the hardware after all. So now that graf is bringing back OtherOS but with full hardware privileges, I can install Linux & experiment with programming etc? Link

Need I go on? But do you know what the incredible thing is, I didn't mention PSN or backups once If you really want to make your voice heard, I suggest calling LiveLine etc.

WolfForager

Good examples. I admit i spoke out of anger/frustration earlier as i often do tbh, i should probably try that whole "don't respond until an hour has passed" thing.

However i see that you are using the homebrew for legitimately good solid reasons, but what proportion of the people using CFWs are people like yourself and what proportion are pirates, i think in the future as this gets more widespread alot of 3rd party publishers will see the two groups as one and the same.

The way i see it is that if pirating becomes as rampant on the PS3 as the PSP for example, then 3rd party studios are going to start withdrawing their support for the platform as the cost for rights to Sony(which are meant to insure copyright protection) will outweigh the profit on the game.

I'll stop typing now before i start to babble