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Breast is best - just not in public.....

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭Quality


    Marisa Mackle.... writer of the chiclit books MR RIGHT FOR THE NIGHT and SO LONG, MR WRONG.

    Maybe she should stick to what she knows best and keep her breastfeeding opinions to herself.

    It is not against the law. Ladies should feel free to get their boobs out and do what nature intended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 230 ✭✭SanFran07




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 156 ✭✭merryhappy


    One of my friends sent me this week during the week: http://www.tv3.ie/xpose.php?video=31421&locID=1.65.68

    Listen carefully at the end.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    This type of tripe coming from a woman who has actually breastfed gives licence to others to go on similar rants.

    She would never breastfeed in public? Then, she obviously didn't do it for very long or never left the house. I wonder would she be happier if her 'friend' had to go and feed her baby in a toilet.

    This kind of negative press really puts women off choosing breastfeeding and makes it really difficult for those who do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭up for anything


    I'm speechless. :mad::mad:


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  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 17,231 Mod ✭✭✭✭Das Kitty


    Can we refrain from name-calling and talk of violence please?

    I breastfed in public, with a shawl usually or if I was out with my ladies-with-babies group I didn't bother. It can be difficult at times to get the latch correct if you can't see what you're doing.

    IMO anything that works toward normalising breastfeeding can only be a good thing. People were only uncomfortable in her story there because it's not seen too often. Her article is stupid and detrimental to it becoming an everyday sight IMO. She's going to come in for a lot of flac about it I'm sure.

    One funny thing about it is that she says about uploading breastfeeding pictures to facebook, facebook routinely remove photos of breastfeeding citing them as nudity, however many other photos of breasts unsuckled are left there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭lynski


    Seriously, this is an easy one, but is there a better way for a 'chick lit' 'author' to drum up some 'profile' then attacking breastfeeding? Every media outlet knows it is a hot button topic and they will cover this to make money - 30c per text and 1530 numbers to call in. Win-win; they get listeners and money and airtime filled cheaply, she gets publicity and the losers - babies because mothers already faltering will take to their 'discreet' homes or give up.
    She has a book coming out, on Tuesday! a Childrens book too. just boycott her book, this is an opening salvo in a media campaign to get her on the airwaves/newspaper pages/etc for the next few weeks.
    Do not give her the oxygen. She is a cynical exploiter of women, and I hope her friend is thrilled to see her lunch discussed in this way, if this actually happened at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    But as far as I'm concerned, women should not breastfeed in public because it makes others feel ill at ease.

    I know people who feel ill at ease when they see an affectionate homosexual couple.
    I know people who feel ill at ease when they meet someone with special needs.
    I know people who feel ill at ease when they are around people not of their race.
    I know people who feel ill at ease when they have to watch other people eat.
    Hell, I know people who feel ill at ease around other people.

    D'ye know what? We should ban people.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Squiggler


    Her attitude and article are so irritating, particularly in view of her own publicised nudity.

    But she, and others like her, do not have a leg to stand on.

    From here http://www.breastfeeding.ie/breastfeeding_out_and_about
    What are your rights?

    If you are happy to breastfeed in a public area the owner, manager or staff of these premises (on their own behalf or on behalf of another customer) are not allowed to ask you to use separate facilities, or ask you to leave.

    If you inform management and staff that you are being harassed by other customers for breastfeeding in public, they have a duty to protect you from this.

    There are two pieces of legislation that protect breastfeeding mothers from discrimination* or harassment** while breastfeeding, The Equal Status Act (2000) and The Intoxicating Liquor Act (2003)

    The Equal Status Act (2000) protects people from discrimination and harassment (including sexual harassment) in the use of and access to a wide range of services including shops and restaurants. Protection for mums breastfeeding in public is provided under two of the nine discriminatory grounds covered by the Act, Gender and Family Status. This Act helps mums to breastfeed comfortably in public places by protecting them from being discriminated against or harassed because they are breastfeeding.

    The Intoxicating Liquor Act (2003) - Section 19 Protects against discrimination occurring in a public house and provides access to the District Court for redress.

    *Discrimination is less favourable treatment, for example, asking someone to leave a premises because they are breastfeeding.

    **Harassment is unwanted conduct (of a sexual nature in the case of sexual harassment) related to any of the discriminatory grounds covered by the Equal Status Act which has the purpose or effect of violating a person's dignity and creating an intimidating, hostile, degrading, humiliating or offensive environment for the person, in this case a breastfeeding mother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    SanFran07 wrote: »

    That image DEFINITELY makes me feel ill at ease.

    Have to say I had never heard of this woman before today. Hopefully I never will again.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Would have thought she'd be a big fan of tits in the public eye seeing as she's one herself.

    Bizarre to imagine how breastfeedling could offend anybody, especially a woman.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 503 ✭✭✭aniascor


    It's likely she feels uncomfortable because she's not used to seeing it. But it's her problem - not the problem of the women who just want to feed their babies. When Playboy and its ilk hit the shelves in Ireland I remember hearing people on the radio saying they couldn't walk into their local shop, they were so embarrassed by what they were faced with on the magazine covers. Never hear that anymore.

    If more women were encouraged to breastfeed in public, the sight would become so commonplace that you wouldn't think twice about it, and the sense of awkwardness that people feel when faced unexpectedly with public breastfeeding would fade.

    I was horrified at the idea of breastfeeding in public when I started feeding my son first. It took months for me to become at ease with the idea, but that was mostly because I felt I would be doing something strange if I fed my son in a public place, because I never really saw it being done by anyone else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,174 ✭✭✭bulmersgal


    only time i've ever noticed a baby been breastfeed in public was once by a woman on the quays who sat down at side of road and fed baby in front of every1, other time was woman across from me in plane. I'm sure i've prob been in the presence of babies been breastfed but never noticed because the mothers where discreet. I think most woman are quite discreet when feeding babies, so what is people problems. Sure they'd give out more if they had to listen to hungry baby crying.

    P.s i think every mother is afraid of feeding out doors, I bottled fed but i was terrified my baby would puke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭wolfpawnat


    To the writer of that article I have to say tough tít!!!!!

    Just because an adult feels uncomfortable a child should go without food, that's what I get from this article. And if one of your friends is a new mother, there are very few people can look after the child. And even harder again with a breastfeeding child.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 554 ✭✭✭Wantobe


    I thought the photo of Miranda Kerr ( that she refers to in her article) was beautiful and tasteful.

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/breaking-news/miranda-kerr-and-orlando-bloom-share-first-shot-of-son-flynn-bloom/story-e6frf7jx-1225991041598


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,508 ✭✭✭Ayla


    Honestly, for the love of it, I just can't figure out why this feeding issue keeps arising. Some folks do it, some don't, some have "problems" with it, some don't.

    Why can't everyone just get over it? It's a boob, folks. A flabby bit of flesh, really, if we're being honest. Page 3 is plastered with them everyday. Why is it suddenly "uncomfortable," "disrespectful" or "gross" to actually use them for what they're designed for? Why should anyone feel it necessary to segregate nursing mothers, and why should women feel the pressure to hide themselves. It's a BOOB!

    On the other hand, though, this sudden spurt of celebrity feeding seems almost like a publicity stunt - like it's a fashionable thing now to be using one's breasts to feed their baby. Maybe that somehow helps the "common" woman to feel like it's ok, but I just keep thinking - why is everyone making such a big deal over it? Babe's hungry, feed him/her. Done. You won't be seeing any celebrities posting snapshots of nappy changes or spitting up, so why does feeding pose any greater interest to the general public?

    I breastfed my 2 girls for 7-9 months, anywhere we were. Restaurants, library, internet cafe. Always done quietly and discreetly and I never once saw a single glance from anyone in the area. No blankets to hide myself under, just lifted the shirt, did the deed & burped. Done. Most of the time even people I'd be talking with wouldn't even know what was happening.

    I wish everyone would just get over it already!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    stovelid wrote: »
    Would have thought she'd be a big fan of tits in the public eye seeing as she's one herself.

    HAHAHAHA. I lol'd. :D

    I genuinely believe that these people say ridiculous things to get a rise / get a discussion like this one going. Others have said it better than I could. I just don't get the hang up with breasts. Don't get me wrong...I think breasts are brilliant. I just couldn't give a fiddlers if someone is using them for feeding. What do people think happened before formula was invented?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭Davidth88


    I by and large don't have an issue with this at all.

    However , Ill tell you a small story.

    I was having coffee with my wife, her friend and our little one who at the time was about 2 in a coffee shop in England. Now I was ' fielding ' little one , who at that age of course is running about the place as they do. I had to follow her to make sure she didn't get up to anything.

    Anyway , in the corner is a group of about 6-7 mums with babes in arms , obviously some sort of group. All of them ( it seemed ) breast feeding.

    of course my little one KEPT running into that area , Ill be honest , I did feel somewhat awkward. I am sure the Mums didn't care , but I felt I was intruding and didn't want them thinking I was perving .

    My wife and her friend thought it was hilarious of course.


    Now getting back to the OP, that is pure self serving nonsense .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭irishgrover


    it's quite sad that she has such an irrational hang up - reflects purely on herself, as opposed to her friends or society...

    It's quite pathetic that that this irrational stupidity is worthy of a newspaper column.

    Basically it's a poorly written article, with no substance or thought. It might have been slightly more interesting if she examined why she has such a stupid hangup etc, however she just went for the lazy option. To be honest it is so poorly and lazily through out, written and communicated that it barely deserves any discussion...(IMHO)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 381 ✭✭Kildrought


    Playboy and its ilk ..... embarrassed by what they were faced with on the magazine covers.
    I find them embarrassing/ annoying / demeaning when I see them on shelves.

    What's hilarious about this whole debate is that anyone who objects to pornography (and the social damage it causes) being sold alongside the milk and bread is 'old-fashioned' or a 'fuddy-duddy' but write an article about babies being fed and its all over the news as the most important issue of the day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,327 ✭✭✭Nasty_Girl


    Ayla wrote: »

    Why can't everyone just get over it? It's a boob, folks. A flabby bit of flesh, really, if we're being honest. Page 3 is plastered with them everyday. Why is it suddenly "uncomfortable," "disrespectful" or "gross" to actually use them for what they're designed for? Why should anyone feel it necessary to segregate nursing mothers, and why should women feel the pressure to hide themselves. It's a BOOB!

    And as soon as there's even a glimmer of sunlight we end up with a bunch of lads showing off their gross boobs in public without a bother.

    I am sick though, of mothers criticizing other mothers constantly, for working, not working, breastfeeding or not breastfeeding. Everyone is different, just because something works for one parent it doesn't for another.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 181 ✭✭hamlet1


    Am with Marisa Mackle on this one!She is right,its revolting watching breastfeeding in public.It's so overrated anyway.Babies do just as well on formula and you get a break from all that feeding!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    hamlet1 wrote: »
    Am with Marisa Mackle on this one!She is right,its revolting watching breastfeeding in public.
    Then don't watch. Do you find it revolting to watch other people eat too, or just babies? You might want some therapy for that.
    hamlet1 wrote: »
    It's so overrated anyway.Babies do just as well on formula
    Heaps of scientific research showing your 'opinion' is wrong.
    hamlet1 wrote: »
    and you get a break from all that feeding!
    Most breastfeeding mums get more sleep and rest that formula feeding ones. Personally I couldn't be bothered with all that bottle washing and sterilising and waiting for kettles to boil. I'd have him fed by the time all that was done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭lynski


    hamlet1 wrote: »
    Am with Marisa Mackle on this one!She is right,its revolting watching breastfeeding in public.It's so overrated anyway.Babies do just as well on formula and you get a break from all that feeding!

    Are you twelve? because only a child would put forward such a view.
    Breastfeeding looks like cuddling in public most of the time, the very rare occasion is doesn't i seriously doubt most people would even notice.
    There is NO, NONE, NOT EVEN a single study anywhere in the known scientific world that says babies who are formula fed are as well fed as breastfed babies, if there is find it and make sure the writers are not formula company employees too.
    Formula feeding is overrated, at every stage, on every point.
    Breast feeding is so much easier and if you wanted a break from all the pesky infant feeding dont bother having an infant, problem solved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12 MaryFMOR


    Why oh why do we find it so awkward to breast feed our babies in public?

    My baby is 7 months old and am still breast feeding and I can count on one hand the amount of times in the 7 months I fed him in public.

    Even with my baby bubu breast feeding shawl I still felt awkward.

    This really needs to change :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭up for anything


    MaryFMOR wrote: »
    Why oh why do we find it so awkward to breast feed our babies in public?

    My baby is 7 months old and am still breast feeding and I can count on one hand the amount of times in the 7 months I fed him in public.

    Even with my baby bubu breast feeding shawl I still felt awkward.

    This really needs to change :mad:

    You are the only person that can change this. Just decide to stop feeling awkward. I see far more women breastfeeding in public than when I used to and they don't seem to worry about discretion and breastfeeding tops/shawls etc. If someone's sensibilities are offended by you feeding your baby - tough!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    You are the only person that can change this. Just decide to stop feeling awkward. I see far more women breastfeeding in public than when I used to and they don't seem to worry about discretion and breastfeeding tops/shawls etc. If someone's sensibilities are offended by you feeding your baby - tough!

    It is easier said than done though. I know some of the few times I did it I was so hung up that I couldn't actually feed my baby, couldn't get let-down to happen. If you have never breastfed a baby, this feels a bit like getting 'stage fright' when you have to pee and can't because someone is in the next cubicle. Similar thing, the milk is there but it won't come out.

    People can help though. Organisations like Friends of Breastfeeding are trying to get public places to sign up as a 'friend' and display a membership sticker so that breastfeeding parents know that the staff are aware of the difficulties and will act accordingly should anyone make a negative comment, and so that other non-breastfeeding people start to see that it is a perfectly normal thing to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Elle Collins


    Basically it's a poorly written article, with no substance or thought.... To be honest it is so poorly and lazily through out, written and communicated that it barely deserves any discussion...(IMHO)

    That's the case with her writing generally.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MintyDoris


    Ayla wrote: »
    Honestly, for the love of it, I just can't figure out why this feeding issue keeps arising. Some folks do it, some don't, some have "problems" with it, some don't.

    Why can't everyone just get over it? It's a boob, folks. A flabby bit of flesh, really, if we're being honest. Page 3 is plastered with them everyday. Why is it suddenly "uncomfortable," "disrespectful" or "gross" to actually use them for what they're designed for? Why should anyone feel it necessary to segregate nursing mothers, and why should women feel the pressure to hide themselves. It's a BOOB!

    On the other hand, though, this sudden spurt of celebrity feeding seems almost like a publicity stunt - like it's a fashionable thing now to be using one's breasts to feed their baby. Maybe that somehow helps the "common" woman to feel like it's ok, but I just keep thinking - why is everyone making such a big deal over it? Babe's hungry, feed him/her. Done. You won't be seeing any celebrities posting snapshots of nappy changes or spitting up, so why does feeding pose any greater interest to the general public?

    I wish everyone would just get over it already!

    I logged on just to thank this post!

    My partner and I had a huge, week long discussion over this article, which I will admit got fairly heated. I am not yet a mother myself but was absolutely disgusted by the article and its 'author'.

    I am still so annoyed that I can't find the words to make my feelings clear


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭up for anything


    It is easier said than done though. I know some of the few times I did it I was so hung up that I couldn't actually feed my baby, couldn't get let-down to happen.

    Nothing worthwhile is ever easy and it really is up to you to change how you feel.

    I spent a straight seven years breastfeeding (if I had it to do again I'd probably give myself a bit of a break :D) three kids, at one stage two of them in tandem, and never gave a thought to other peoples' reactions and never once had an adverse comment from a stranger or the 'general public' and by the time a couple of years had passed I had completely ditched discretion. If a baby needs feeding, it needs feeding. I did try to draw the line at the toddler feeding at the same time as the baby in public but sometimes I had to allow it.

    It would be pretty rude of me if every time a mother took out a bottle to feed her baby that I tut tutted and made comments which would make her feel uncomfortable or asked her to take that abomination out of my sight.

    People make too much of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭How Strange


    I fed my baby in public for the first time today. I was as discreet as possible and it went fine. I was in a hotel lounge having coffee; there was a big group of French people and I got alot of smiles and nods from the women. I have to admit it was very reassuring.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    I fed my baby in public for the first time today. I was as discreet as possible and it went fine. I was in a hotel lounge having coffee; there was a big group of French people and I got alot of smiles and nods from the women. I have to admit it was very reassuring.

    Well done you!!!! I remember the first time I did it, I was so proud of myself, I wanted a pat on the back but no-one really got it.....:(

    It'll be so much easier from now on, you won't know what all the fuss was about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    I fed my baby in public for the first time today. I was as discreet as possible and it went fine. I was in a hotel lounge having coffee; there was a big group of French people and I got alot of smiles and nods from the women. I have to admit it was very reassuring.

    I know I'm late but good work. :) I'm sure it's nerve-racking. Go on the Frenchies! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,128 ✭✭✭cynder


    http://uk.lifestyle.yahoo.com/food-drink/london-restaurant%20selling%20breast%20milk%20ice%20cream-blog-24-yahoo-lifestyles.html


    New mothers looking for a bit of extra cash need to look no further than their own assets, as a London restaurant is now offering money for breast milk – to make ice-cream.

    Covent Garden company, Icecreamists, has started serving 'Baby Gaga' to customers using milk donated from 15 women who responded to an online advertisement.

    Pasteurised and churned together with Madagascan vanilla pods and lemon zest, the unorthodox dessert is served by a costumed Baby Gaga waitress and comes in a martini glass at £14 a dish.

    Now the company is looking for more women to provide breast milk – and are giving £15 for every ten ounces that are extracted using breast pumps on site.

    New mother Victoria Hiley, 35, provided the first 30 ounces of milk, and said the concept was a great "recession beater".

    "What's the harm in using my assets for a bit of extra cash?" Mrs Hiley said.

    "I teach women how to get started on breastfeeding their babies. There's very little support for women and every little helps."

    Mrs Hiley said the ice-cream “melts in your mouth”, and added that if adults realised how tasty breast milk was it would encourage more mothers to breastfeed.

    Matt O'Connor, 44, who runs Icecreamists, said he thought there had been a very positive response to the dish so far.

    "No one's done anything interesting with ice cream in the last hundred years," he said.

    "Some people will hear about it and go, 'yuck,' but actually it's pure, organic, free-range and totally natural."

    To uphold health standards, lactating women undergo health checks the same as those run by hospitals to screen blood donors.

    Another 13 women have reportedly volunteered to donate their breast milk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    grindelwald, I'm unsure what breast feeding in public and breast milk ice cream have in common??


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭jingler


    http://www.thebreastway.com/index.php/breastfeeding-bits-and-boobs/milk-donation-and-milk-bank

    If selling your extra milk to produce icecream doesn't appeal you could always look at donating it to sick babies. This is a breast milk bank- I didn't know about it before but will donate when my new arrival makes an appearance. Great idea and great cause.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    jingler wrote: »
    If selling your extra milk to produce icecream doesn't appeal you could always look at donating it to sick babies. This is a breast milk bank- I didn't know about it before but will donate when my new arrival makes an appearance. Great idea and great cause.

    That was the first thing I thought of when I heard about this. Surely those women should donate to the milk-bank. You wouldn't sell blood, would you?


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,986 Mod ✭✭✭✭Moonbeam


    They pay you to donate blood in some other countries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    Moonbeam wrote: »
    They pay you to donate blood in some other countries.

    Fair enough, but that's to encourage people to do it, not to make a profit.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,485 ✭✭✭✭Khannie


    deemark wrote: »
    Fair enough, but that's to encourage people to do it, not to make a profit.

    It's to make a profit alright.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,937 ✭✭✭implausible


    Khannie wrote: »
    It's to make a profit alright.

    Ok, so profit isn't the right word - blood saves lives, donated breastmilk helps premature babies; ice-cream just tastes nice:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    Nothing worthwhile is ever easy and it really is up to you to change how you feel.

    I spent a straight seven years breastfeeding (if I had it to do again I'd probably give myself a bit of a break :D) three kids, at one stage two of them in tandem, and never gave a thought to other peoples' reactions and never once had an adverse comment from a stranger or the 'general public'...People make too much of it.

    Perhaps I do need to get over it or whatever, but it is quite difficult to do that when people tut-tut at you or when staff in restaurants interrupt you to ask if you would be more comfortable in the toilet etc. You are very lucky not to have ever had a negative response; I have not been so fortunate and that is possibly why I feel hung up about it and you do not. If past experience has taught you to be on the defensive every time you feed your baby in public, it becomes a much more difficult thing to do.

    People DO make too much of it, but those people are generally not the breastfeeders.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 945 ✭✭✭Squiggler


    Perhaps I do need to get over it or whatever, but it is quite difficult to do that when people tut-tut at you or when staff in restaurants interrupt you to ask if you would be more comfortable in the toilet etc. You are very lucky not to have ever had a negative response; I have not been so fortunate and that is possibly why I feel hung up about it and you do not. If past experience has taught you to be on the defensive every time you feed your baby in public, it becomes a much more difficult thing to do.

    People DO make too much of it, but those people are generally not the breastfeeders.

    People tut-tutting and staff asking you to move are guilty of harrassment under The Equal Status Act (2000). The staff and management have an obligation under that act to protect the breastfeeding mother, not the interests of anyone protesting.

    I'm a very modest person, but I also believe that it is important to breastfeed if at all possible. The thought of feeding in public is daunting to me, so I've been making sure I am as fully informed as possible about my rights, for the sake of my baby.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,943 ✭✭✭abouttobebanned


    What kind of woman writes that kind of tripe about one of her "friends"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    Squiggler wrote: »
    People tut-tutting and staff asking you to move are guilty of harrassment under The Equal Status Act (2000). The staff and management have an obligation under that act to protect the breastfeeding mother, not the interests of anyone protesting.

    I know, but it's kinda hard to make an effective protest when your baby is hungry and you're a bit stressed! This is why I'm getting involved in the feeding in public project I mentioned in an earlier post - the HSE/govt seems to have no interest in increasing awareness or ensuring that rights are protected, so it's up to those of us who've been there and done that and who have a bit of time to clear the path for those to come. This is in my own interests too, I want to have more babies and will want to feed them wherever we happen to be. It would be reassuring to see a logo that tells you the staff are aware and welcoming and know what to do if a public member complains.

    I'm determined that next time round I'll be more relaxed about this - I think I'll have to be if I have a baby and a toddling lunatic in tow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 435 ✭✭MintyDoris


    This is why I'm getting involved in the feeding in public project I mentioned in an earlier post - the HSE/govt seems to have no interest in increasing awareness or ensuring that rights are protected, so it's up to those of us who've been there and done that and who have a bit of time to clear the path for those to come.

    Cat,

    Just wondering how you are getting on with the feeding in public project as mentioned?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,682 ✭✭✭deisemum


    I know, but it's kinda hard to make an effective protest when your baby is hungry and you're a bit stressed! This is why I'm getting involved in the feeding in public project I mentioned in an earlier post - the HSE/govt seems to have no interest in increasing awareness or ensuring that rights are protected, so it's up to those of us who've been there and done that and who have a bit of time to clear the path for those to come. This is in my own interests too, I want to have more babies and will want to feed them wherever we happen to be. It would be reassuring to see a logo that tells you the staff are aware and welcoming and know what to do if a public member complains.

    I'm determined that next time round I'll be more relaxed about this - I think I'll have to be if I have a baby and a toddling lunatic in tow.

    My lads are teenagers now but I breastfed them in public when they were small and didn't get any negative comments and didn't notice any staring but I was able to feed discretely. The negative comments came from family even if I was feeding at home and it was mostly men that encouraged or made positive comments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    MintyDoris wrote: »
    Cat,

    Just wondering how you are getting on with the feeding in public project as mentioned?

    It's on-going! I'm trying to get a bunch of businesses on board in the Tipp area (3 so far) and then get the local paper to do a piece on them. It's taking longer than I thought it would (work, baby on the way and trying to move house) but so far people have been very encouraging.

    Anyone else who wants to get involved should go to the Friends of Breastfeeding website, they're delighted to get new members & volunteers, and they list all the businesses that have signed up so far (I still have to post my local ones up).

    deisemum wrote: »
    My lads are teenagers now but I breastfed them in public when they were small and didn't get any negative comments and didn't notice any staring but I was able to feed discretely. The negative comments came from family even if I was feeding at home and it was mostly men that encouraged or made positive comments.
    I think family making negative comments must be the most undermining of all. At least when it's a stranger, you can shrug it off as ignorance or rudeness, but when it's one of your own it's tough.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,682 ✭✭✭deisemum


    It's on-going! I'm trying to get a bunch of businesses on board in the Tipp area (3 so far) and then get the local paper to do a piece on them. It's taking longer than I thought it would (work, baby on the way and trying to move house) but so far people have been very encouraging.

    Anyone else who wants to get involved should go to the Friends of Breastfeeding website, they're delighted to get new members & volunteers, and they list all the businesses that have signed up so far (I still have to post my local ones up).


    I think family making negative comments must be the most undermining of all. At least when it's a stranger, you can shrug it off as ignorance or rudeness, but when it's one of your own it's tough.

    The negative comments were mostly from my inlaws as my husband's sister had a baby a week after I had my first lad and she had another 3 days before I had my second and she bottlefed so they did try and put me off breastfeeding. My own mother came out with a few crackers too and sorta humoured me breastfeeding until my lads reached 4 months then tried to put me off continuing.

    Fortunately my lads are very healthy teenagers and haven't seen their gp since they were toddlers.


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