Joan Burton on Vincent Brown

bcmf

Did she drink way too much red bull or was it that she just didnt want Joe Higgins to speak.

RoundyMooney

I noticed she said that anyone who invested in Anglo was reckless.

That's Mr. Bruton and Mr. Noonan off the christmas card list, then.

SB-08

After her SHAMBLES of a performance right now on Vincent Browne - I would urge all Labour supporters to contact Labour HQ, Quinn and Gilmore and DEMAND that this childish banshee is removed at once. She is doing huge damage and will put loads of people off voting for Lab is this is the sort of utter nonsense she will continue to inflict on us throughout the election.:eek:

Email that she needs to be replaced by either Quinn or Rabbitte. Otherwise she will be one of the main reasons Labour will lose a lot of votes.

GET MOAN OUT NOW:mad:

gandalf

To be honest she has gotten bad example for Vincent Browne himself as he is always interrupting people.

Byron85

I caught about ten minutes of it and then the stream died but good god did I see enough. She just would not shut up and came across as a lunatic. She's currently trending worldwide on twitter at the moment. Hooray for Ireland!

p1akuw47h5r3it

She is acting like a fool!

Headwrecking!

steelcityblues

Didn't see it. Did she mention FDR and Pearl Harbour?

mickdw

She really lost it. Untold damage done Im afraid.

martic

While a lot people don't like the Vincent Browne show it is really showing some of the politicians for the true people they are.Tonight Joan Burton came across as a loud mouth school yard bully that wouldn't give Joe Higgins a chance to speak and continued to jibe at him throughout the show and if anyone said anything at all negative to her she spat the dummy out big time.She proved how capable she is at lying and trying to blind sight the public in her attitude and replies to Eamonn Gilmore's remarks on the late late show.Is this the strong politician that is going to help get Ireland out of this mess? Today labour are not doing themselves any favours on the run up to the election.

LeixlipRed

She's a complete embarrassment.

selfobsessed

Vincent Browne's show is always a circus let alone Burton.

steelcityblues

Labour are blowing it on a daily basis now!

UnitedIrishman

That was cringeworthy stuff. I really do worry if people like Burton are left in charge of this country. This GE is like a campaign of who is least bad.

ADHOnA21

She was terrible, absolutely terrible. She talked about coming from a working background and education was the key. It would appear she needs to learn some basic manners. It is very hard to believe she could be taken seriously. Good luck with that one Eamon!!!

Maybe Cowan's comment in the dial was not so unfair after all.

RoundyMooney

Joan now trending on twitter.

It's gone global!

aDeener

bcmf wrote: »

Did she drink way too much red bull or was it that she just didnt want Joe Higgins to speak.

maybe now people will realise just what a clueless clown she is.

she acted like an 8 year old, cringeworthy

KylieWyley

Harangue - Verb: Lecture (someone) at length in an aggressive and critical manner.

Pretty much sums up Joan Burton's style of political discussion.

It was an amazing moment when Brown quoted the transcript of Gilmore on the Late Late Show and she started to argue that Brown was misrepresenting what she said about what Gilmore said. Laughable really.

SB-08

I would urge all Labour and floating voters to contact The Director Of Elections and the man who should be Labour Finance SP - Ruairi Quinn on this issue. Moan needs to be moved to Enterprise. The thought of her as FM is extremely off-putting to many people. She is a huge liability. Action should be taken in this regard. Link to email Quinn.

http://www.ruairiquinn.ie/?page_id=4

Joe1919

Joan was really crap. She even tried to play feminist card at one point.
Labour have falled apart already in Laois Offaly as many of their member have left to join Joe.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2011/0112/1224287329655.html

Carrollj

Well... i pretty much have no one left to vote for now

Wess

Joan Burton was typical of someone who has waited too long in the wings to enter Government, and now finally believes that the golden chalice is within her grasp.....she's letting off all that pent up stem! For God sake keep her and the labour party,and all partys out of government....we want a change from this crap! would you agree Boards people?

Wess Vote independents!

That whole show tonight was a farce,isn't it always like that.
Simon didn't play to VB's usual trolling style of debate and came off well I think.
Joan was just being human,she forgot herself and let herself go as if the camera's weren't there.
Betwixt and between,she made her points in the vb show inimitable way
Quite funny.
Style as well as substance and not the usual boring presentation,I like this irreverancy,I must say.

Relax folks,look at this in a bigger way.

Sir Oxman

She was brutal but Coveney was as bad - insipid and clueless.

The cosy Finance Bill pact both FG and Labour have pulled off this week is not going to do them any favours at all.
The country needs balls not subterfuge and electoral tactics.

Carrollj

Simon Coveney wasn't much better tonight. Those 2 ( Coveney and Burton ) are representing the parties that will lead us out of this mess. Really? Is that the best we have??

Sir Oxman

FG and Labour know they are the next govt and this is really boiling my píss as they clearly think they needn't try very hard at all.
I'm leaning to use my vote to elect a vociferous opposition - and that's SF and Independent (depending) at the moment.

evercloserunion

I didn't see it but I hear it was a pretty abysmal performance. Joan strikes me as someone who knows her stuff but doesn't really know how to communicate effectively. Gilmore might want to put a leash on her. Saying that "untold damage" has been done is a bit much though. Labour will not suffer too much from this so long as they learn from their mistakes.

c_man

LeixlipRed wrote: »

She's a complete embarrassment.

^^^This. very childish and immature carry on from her. Throwing out the chauvinist card at Joe Higgins was a low act. Joan, it's not cos you're a woman but because you're a loud mouth bully.

alang184

Joan was an absolute eejit tonight. I was struggling to consider voting Labour, but she has made my mind up for me.

Browne did not only expose her blatant lie, but exposed the truth that this is what they all do - they all come on shows like his, give all the usual bladder, whatever is in the party's interest above all, and lie if they can get away with it, and if it suits the party.

Can't believe I'm actually considering voting Sinn Fein. They sound like the only party that wants to stop the gravy train. Although I can't trust any of these stupid parties, to be honest.

In the end, I'll probably just vote independent.

Sir Oxman

evercloserunion wrote: »

I didn't see it but I hear it was a pretty abysmal performance. Joan strikes me as someone who knows her stuff but doesn't really know how to communicate effectively. Gilmore might want to put a leash on her. Saying that "untold damage" has been done is a bit much though. Labour will not suffer too much from this so long as they learn from their mistakes.

I agree she hit the target numerous trimes in the Dail versus Lenihan but the show of herself and her party she put on tonight will damage Labour over the next few days.
Saying that, it's a long campaign and I doubt it'll matter a lot on election day unless it's repeated.

Mezcita

Any links to this yet?

Dan_Solo

Joe Higgins a sexist?
No Joan, women are equally entitled to be complete arseholes as men, as you've proved tonight. How could anyone vote for that sort of lunatic?

The Volt

gandalf wrote: »

To be honest she has gotten bad example for Vincent Browne himself as he is always interrupting people.

Contrasting the zero times he interrupted Higgins.

martic

Mezcita wrote: »

Any links to this yet?

A small clip

Dan_Solo

Same story as earlier on the Front Line. Ask a politician scumbag any direct question and they "answer" this is about jobs or some other guff. Any specifics and they get slaughtered.

Sir Oxman

martic wrote: »

A small clip

And there was an hour and a half of that...:eek:

Carrollj

I have it Sky+'d, It's the 101 on how not to debate

BlaasForRafa

Voltwad wrote: »

Contrasting the zero times he interrupted Higgins.

Browne dosen't interrupt Higgins because he's idealogically closer to him than the other two on the show.

Moan was awful but then she's always awful, Apres Match portrayed her perfectly last summer.

Joe Higgins seems like a decent guy but his policies are off in la-la land regarding burning the bondholders completely, his are the politics of protest but he's got no real idea of realpolitik and pragmatism.

Fitzerb

gandalf wrote: »

To be honest she has gotten bad example for Vincent Browne himself as he is always interrupting people.

Stop making silly excuses for Moan of Arc. Brown is not putting himself forward for election

The Volt

Behind her horribly media-trained exterior, she is a very bright, knowledgeable politician but I agree that Labour would do well to hide her for a while.

Fitzerb

Deleted User wrote: »

That whole show tonight was a farce,isn't it always like that.
Simon didn't play to VB's usual trolling style of debate and came off well I think.
Joan was just being human,she forgot herself and let herself go as if the camera's weren't there.
Betwixt and between,she made her points in the vb show inimitable way
Quite funny.
Style as well as substance and not the usual boring presentation,I like this irreverancy,I must say.

Relax folks,look at this in a bigger way.

Your having a laugh... She was a joke. This mouth repersenting us in Europe... Are you serious about her making her points. The only point she made was I am a little spoiled child and I want my Merc now

Dan_Solo

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

Joe Higgins seems like a decent guy but his policies are off in la-la land regarding burning the bondholders completely, his are the politics of protest but he's got no real idea of realpolitik and pragmatism.

Neglecting the fact that there would've been no bank guarantee to get Ireland into this mess in the first place if someone like Joe Higgins was in charge.
Pragmatism seems to be the excuse to screw the country again after somebody ripped us off and got away with it.

Sir Oxman

We live in extraodrinary times so perhaps extraordinary measures are what we need.

BlaasForRafa

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Neglecting the fact that there would've been no bank guarantee to get Ireland into this mess in the first place if someone like Joe Higgins was in charge.
Pragmatism seems to be the excuse to screw the country again after somebody ripped us off and got away with it.

Look, I don't like the bank guarantee either, I don't appreciated being saddled with the reckless debt of others, the guarantee was a stupid move but it happened.

The next government will have to decide what to do in the circumstances that exist now. If the bondholders are completely burned where does the government find 20 billion or so to fund health, education, social welfare etc? I've not heard Joe give an actual straight answer to that when he's been asked.

Dan_Solo

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

If the bondholders are completely burned where does the government find 20 billion or so to fund health, education, social welfare etc?

Sell the NAMA assets?:D

Carrollj

What's the answer to all this?

wildswan

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

the guarantee was a stupid move but it happened.

They knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

I'm sick of this crap about a mistake. Rich people changing the rules when they lose the poker game. Who are the long list of bondholders really being baled out here?

BlaasForRafa

Dan_Solo wrote: »

Sell the NAMA assets?:D

I bid 10 euro!

BlaasForRafa

wildswan wrote: »

They knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

I'm sick of this crap about a mistake. Rich people changing the rules when they lose the poker game. Who are the long list of bondholders really being baled out here?

I said it was a stupid move, I didn't say that it wasn't a cynical one that was trying to save their buddies in the FF tent at the Galway races.

BlaasForRafa

Carrollj wrote: »

What's the answer to all this?

42

Carrollj

I kept coming up with 39, brilliant

evercloserunion

martic wrote: »

A small clip

Cringe