Radical 12 week transformation

Diceicle

I was reading the most recent copy of Mens Fitness and have to say I was impressed with the 12 week transformation acheived by some dude called Glenn training with Nick Mitchell.

I didnt see anything about this on here so I thought I'd post it and get some reactions from you boardsies.

The core of the program seems to be training twice a day (though Nick states that this is not "the secret"), a quick weights session in the morning and then another post-work. Eating steak for breakfast and fish with steamed veg is a major part of the diet section.

Personally speaking I'm impressed, taking, what looks like a boozer and turning him into someone who wouldnt be out of place on the set of The 300 is no mean feat and however it was done certainly takes dedication, which I applaude.

Here's a link:
http://www.nickmitchellblog.com/radical-physique-transformation/#
(its the same dude in the "transform your body" advert to the right of the screen.)

or:
shots of weeks 1 / 7 / 15 about halfway down the page:
http://upfitness.co.uk/articles/supplementation/poliquin-supplements/

Any thoughts?

COH

4 reasons I know that article is awesome...

1 - It involves Mens Health
2 - It has a link to twice a day arms training
3 - It has before and after pics
4 - It has a link to Poliquin supplements

mailliw

Personally, I'm not terribly surprised. Clearly Nick Mitchell put Glenn on a high protein high fat diet, and an intense workout routine. I'm on a similar routine myself and I lost 35lb in 2 months. Obviously I had a lot more weight to lose than Glenn, and I didn't get nearly as ripped as he did, but the technique definitely works!

thehamo

I'd love to do this but the thoughts of eating steak every morning for breakfast I just couldnt hack

gaz wac

What would your typical days menu look like for a diet like this? i.e b/fast-lunch-dinner-snacks ?

cheers

p.s anyone got a link to one ?

Diceicle

COH wrote: »

4 reasons I know that article is awesome...

1 - It involves Mens Health
2 - It has a link to twice a day arms training
3 - It has before and after pics
4 - It has a link to Poliquin supplements

Obviously your tongue is firmly in your cheek here so if you could elaborate that would be great.

1 - It does?
2 - ?
3 - Thats bad?
4 - Is he a Tony Quinn type or something? I think he's the same guy giving advice in Mens Fitness but I'm not 100%

If you have any actual opinion on the article / program / the guys progress, (whether you think its all BS or whatever) I'd like to hear it.

thehamo

gaz wac wrote: »

What would your typical days menu look like for a diet like this? i.e b/fast-lunch-dinner-snacks ?

cheers

This reccomends steak for b/f, and then steamed fish and veg for other meals through the day. Not sure if you have to stick rigid to that though. Most thigns that are High protein/fat and no veg that contains sugar so the likes of brocoli, caulliflower kale/spinach etc. I'd consider eating omletes of eggs in some sort for breakfast over steak anyway.

paky

diets like this do work but there impossible to sustain in the long run

rocky

And now lots of people will follow this diet and training advice, and get maybe 1 tenth of the results. What are they missing? Steroids :eek:

COH

Diceicle wrote: »

Obviously your tongue is firmly in your cheek here so if you could elaborate that would be great.

1 - It does?
2 - ?
3 - Thats bad?
4 - Is he a Tony Quinn type or something? I think he's the same guy giving advice in Mens Fitness but I'm not 100%

If you have any actual opinion on the article / program / the guys progress, (whether you think its all BS or whatever) I'd like to hear it.

This is a big marketing tool. You get that right? Its not one mans triumph over obesity, the heartwarming story.

1 - My bad, Mens Fitness, not Mens Health. Different magazine, same crap.
2 - Theres a link to 'Twice a day arms training - How I did it' on the right. Along with 3000 reps in 3 days etc.
3 - The majority of before/after pics used to promote diets/products are a load of bollox.
4 - Yes, he is a smart businessman, and a lunatic commune leader

paky

rocky wrote: »

And now lots of people will follow this diet and training advice, and get maybe 1 tenth of the results. What are they missing? Steroids :eek:

it does work. i followed one similar to this a couple of years back eating six meals a day, egg whites, steak, fish, protein powder and carbs on top of that. have to say i transformed pretty quickly. the fat melted off me but it took so much work preparing the meals and if you travelled overnight anywhere it wasnt possible to stick to.

rocky

He lost 12kg of actual bodyweight and added 8kg of muscle - so the bodyfat drop was 20kg! BF% went from just over 23% to 6.8%...

Sure it's possible, that's why you see it all the time ...

almost 3kg of added muscle per month? while on a caloric deficit?

just... no.

amazingemmet

rocky wrote: »

He lost 12kg of actual bodyweight and added 8kg of muscle - so the bodyfat drop was 20kg! BF% went from just over 23% to 6.8%...

Sure it's possible, that's why you see it all the time ...

almost 3kg of added muscle per month? while on a caloric deficit?

just... no.

Well if you go from a diet that is pure sh1te to one that is super clean you will see a gain in muscle while losing fat

gymsoldier

At the end of the day, with a diet like that your actualy consuming less calories then you normaly would. => calorie reduction + increased calorie burn = loss of weight.

You dont need any fancy programmes to loose weight, the internet is full of hype.

Diceicle

COH wrote: »

This is a big marketing tool. You get that right? Its not one mans triumph over obesity, the heartwarming story.

1 - My bad, Mens Fitness, not Mens Health. Different magazine, same crap.
2 - Theres a link to 'Twice a day arms training - How I did it' on the right. Along with 3000 reps in 3 days etc.
3 - The majority of before/after pics used to promote diets/products are a load of bollox.
4 - Yes, he is a smart businessman, and a lunatic commune leader

1 - I get the odd copy of MF. Its too harsh to says its the same crap as MH. At the end of the day its a magazine for information, reviews, nutrition etc, they have to produce a full mag each month no matter what. Some of the info will be crap but I have to say I've picked up good advice and inspiration from MF.
2- I dont see how an advert is related to what Glenn achieved.
3 - The article in question is about a fat guy who got great results, I think before and afters are justified, otherwise its more a case of "I got great results take my word for it".
4 - I've no idea who this lad is, so ok.

I agree with the poster who said a diet like this is unsustainable, (for most people anyway) no way I'd be able to keep that up, but I dont think thats the point in it, surely something like this is to get you where you want to be in a relatively short amount of time and then you slip into a more "normal" routine to maintain it??

As regards steroids, that did cross my mind. I'm certainly no expert in these matters and have no background information on the guys involved. Cant say if they're known steroid "promoters". Either way, I'm impressed with what this dude has achieved in 3 months, hell, if i could get to where this guy was at week 7 I'd be happy, but I dont have the motivation / time / energy to invest into it.

While Gymsoldier is correct IMO in that reduction of calories + more time in the gym = results is true......look at the difference achieved in the time frame......very impressive IMO. (if what is in the article is true and Glenn wasnt roided up to his eyeballs)

Mr. Loverman

1. Find a guy who has a well defined, muscular body.
2. Get him to put on a lot of weight.
3. Take an unflattering photo of his fat covered (but still muscular) body.
4. Put him on an extreme, unhealthy diet so he loses the weight in 12 weeks.
5. Take a photo of his "new" body. (Will be similar to step 1).
6. Profit.

Hanley

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

1. Find a guy who has a well defined, muscular body.
2. Get him to put on a lot of weight.
3. Take an unflattering photo of his fat covered (but still muscular) body.
4. Put him on an extreme, unhealthy diet so he loses the weight in 12 weeks.
5. Take a photo of his "new" body. (Will be similar to step 1).
6. Profit.

DING DING DING DING!!!

The "after" photos should make it BLATANTLY obvious to anyone with experience weight training that this dude was carrying good quality muscle already and was just fat.

gavney1

yeah, his arms in photo 1 are actually quite muscular, and his shoulders are big too.

the major difference seems to be his stomach, which I presume is one part of the body that will change radically if you suddenly start eating properly and exercising - is that correct?

Hanley

gavney1 wrote: »

yeah, his arms in photo 1 are actually quite muscular, and his shoulders are big too.

the major difference seems to be his stomach, which I presume is one part of the body that will change radically if you suddenly start eating properly and exercising - is that correct?

Spot on.

kingshankly

read it myself but I'm sure if you got a fit man and told him to stay away from the gym live on fast food for a month then take a picture with him sticking his belly out as best he can, then convert back to healthy living for a couple of months and you would have a similar scenario

Hanley

kingshankly wrote: »

read it myself but I'm sure if you got a fit man and told him to stay away from the gym live on fast food for a month then take a picture with him sticking his belly out as best he can, then convert back to healthy living for a couple of months and you would have a similar scenario

Yup.

thehamo

I was just reading some articles written by this nick bloke. In one he actually claims that cardio makes you fat!!! He said look at any long distance runners and they will have a pot belly on them, or something along those lines...

To say you won't loose fat doin cardio, ok that's one thing, but to turn around and say it actually makes you fat????

Hanley

thehamo wrote: »

I was just reading some articles written by this nick bloke. In one he actually claims that cardio makes you fat!!!

You're thinking of Jay Farrant CPT**















**Inside forum joke, in case you don't get it!

Mellor

no body has stated the obvious, or maybe I missed it as I didn't read it fully.

But why are people believing that this happen over 12 weeks?
It would of taken any length of time

Mr. Loverman wrote: »

1. Find a guy who has a well defined, muscular body.
2. Get him to put on a lot of weight.
3. Take an unflattering photo of his fat covered (but still muscular) body.
4. Put him on an extreme, unhealthy diet so he loses the weight in 12 weeks.
5. Take a photo of his "new" body. (Will be similar to step 1).
6. Profit.

Just take the after photo before he puts on the weight = quicker profit

Mr. Loverman

Mellor wrote: »

Just take the after photo before he puts on the weight = quicker profit

Haha yeah.

gavney1

Mellor wrote: »

no body has stated the obvious, or maybe I missed it as I didn't read it fully.

But why are people believing that this happen over 12 weeks?
It would of taken any length of time



Just take the after photo before he puts on the weight = quicker profit

It says that there were lots of people witnessing the transformation, and celebrity soap star endorsing it. This is the "proof" that it's not cheating.

Assuming that's true (which of course it may well not be), the first suggestion above of how they cheated is more likely.

I'd like to read the article again and look into the links more to investigate, but I'm in work and I'd be embarrassed if anyone saw me looking at it!

TheZ

I assume if you work out with sufficient intensity and stick rigidly to the prescribed diet that results like that are achievable but it would be difficult "in the real world" with a job, family etc.

I think actors regularly undergo similar transformations before movies but they have full time personal trainers and chefs on hand.

I would imagine the diet is the hardest part of this as cooking steak and eggs for breakfast everyday is not going to be something everybody has the time to do and run their life


Somebody posted a link to a video before of a "regular joe" who achieved similar results over 9 months or so and competed in a body buidling competition and immediately before the photos he engaged in extreme enough dieting and a day or two after the photos when he went back to "normal" he had lost his six pack.

BlueIsland

regardless of ending up like that guy (which in fairness ya would want to be a right thick to believe ya cud do that to your body in 12 weeks) the actual wieghts programme is good I think. mornings ya do big four-
Monday- Bench
Tuesday- Squat
Friday-Deadlift
Saturday- Bent over rows
In the four afternoons ya do drop sets of 10/10/10 with presses, staight leg deadlifts, incline dunbell presses, cable flyies etc!!!
Forgetting all the ****e, all the buzz words, all the obvious lies about what this glen guy did the actual weights programme would defeintely help ya get stronger and leaner if ya were good bit over weight. add in cardio and a sustainable good diet (not the one he showed) and ya would get realsitic good results I reckon. Think anybody who is GENUINELY interested in transforming themselves physically and mentally will look through the bull****!!!!