What will RTE do when Fianna Fail are out ?

lucozader

Over the last 10 years they have basically acted as a partisan wing of Fianna Fail.

All of the key people at RTE are fervent Fianna Fail supporters.

Will we finally see a free and impartial RTE after the Fall of Fianna Fail or will RTE continue to be useless.

ninty9er

Give FG and Labour a hard ride for a change.

road_high

Hopefully just be privatised

Poly

The home made shows are crap, the presenters are overpaid tools, their news can be trusted. Newstalk does a better job. Close it down.

Fitzerb

Poly wrote: »

The home made shows are crap, the presenters are overpaid tools, their news can be trusted. Newstalk does a better job. Close it down.

Hwne you say the home made shows are crap which station are you comparing it to

PeterIanStaker

Lads, FF aren't out yet, much as we'd all like them to be.

RTE (and Independent Newspapers) will do their masters' bidding until they are, and possibly after.

Wait til you see the Late Late during the election campaign, you may as well just vomit now in anticipation.

Their biggest advantage is SF (who I also think are a waste of oxygen) because they're always a convenient bogeyman.

Nate--IRL--

Fitzerb wrote: »

Hwne you say the home made shows are crap which station are you comparing it to

No need to compare RTE to anything. It is ****, and not worth the Licence fee.

Nate

Atlantic Dawn

They might show programmes people want to see instead of home grown shows featuring friends of Fianna Fail.

Poly

Fitzerb wrote: »

Hwne you say the home made shows are crap which station are you comparing it to

Lets see, "Fair city", "RAW" "Mattie" "Winning streak" "MRs browns boys", need I go on?
and before you say these are independent productions, RTE still pays for the sh1te with our money

Atlantic Dawn

Poly wrote: »

RTE still pays for the sh1te with our money

And also pays our good money for great shows like Entourage, 24 and Mad Men but shows them around midnight when nobody watches them just so TV3 can't show them.

ThisRegard

Does nobody listen to the News at 1 here, Sean O'Rourke can't be called partisan, he even got hassle on The week in politics from a FF member for being biased against them. And there was also mention of a FF boycott of The Frontline for the same reason.

Poly

ThisRegard wrote: »

Does nobody listen to the News at 1 here, Sean O'Rourke can't be called partisan, he even got hassle on The week in politics from a FF member for being biased against them. And there was also mention of a FF boycott of The Frontline for the same reason.

What about the FF luv-ins on Turbidy, Frontline, and dropping the feed on Vinny Browne? Not to mention all the FF plants in RTE.

Andrew H

ThisRegard wrote: »

Does nobody listen to the News at 1 here, Sean O'Rourke can't be called partisan, he even got hassle on The week in politics from a FF member for being biased against them. And there was also mention of a FF boycott of The Frontline for the same reason.

IMO the only reason FF supporters spout this crap is to try and take the limelight off of themselves. Everyone knows that RTE is firmly in the Goverments pocket just look at the way they cut the questions Vincent Browne asked after the announcement of the IMF bailout during the news.

They constantly produce absolute crap... I can't think of even one show I like to watch on their stations and when I do happen to flick their stations on they are happily interviewing people off of the shows they produce. A typical example is the Late Late Show.

They are overpaid wasters and the sooner the better the Licence Fee is got rid of the better!

Byron85

They'll do what Fox News have been doing since Obama got into power in the U.S, i.e., saying that there are communists in government. We get that from some posters on here as it is when they are referring to Labour and Fine Gael; "the bearded ones" etc.

ThisRegard

Andrew H wrote: »

IMO the only reason FF supporters spout this crap is to try and take the limelight off of themselves.

Are you calling me a FF supporter, if so I've never been more insulted.

However this thread is getting to the stage where it should be moved to the Conspiracy Theories forum.

vintac34

mfitzy wrote: »

Hopefully just be privatised

Very much agree with above but they should also be denied subsidies in any shape or form..
Just let them sink, swim,float or whatever.We really don`t need them as there
is lots of unbiased news out there...
Plus were taxed in the form of licence fee whether we watch them or not!

Andrew H

ThisRegard wrote: »

Are you calling me a FF supporter, if so I've never been more insulted.

Apologies so. But I still stand by my belief that FF supporters spout this RTE is biased towards us slogan to make RTE look like they give a balanced view of politics in Ireland. As has been said by another poster RTE is a kin to Fox in this respect.

RTE quickly fell into line a few years ago when FF threatened that they were going to cut the Licence Fee and thus their wages.

The Licence Fee should go and RTE should be Privatised.

Fitzerb

Andrew H wrote: »

IMO the only reason FF supporters spout this crap is to try and take the limelight off of themselves. Everyone knows that RTE is firmly in the Goverments pocket just look at the way they cut the questions Vincent Browne asked after the announcement of the IMF bailout during the news.

They constantly produce absolute crap... I can't think of even one show I like to watch on their stations and when I do happen to flick their stations on they are happily interviewing people off of the shows they produce. A typical example is the Late Late Show.

They are overpaid wasters and the sooner the better the Licence Fee is got rid of the better!

A little history..... not really relevant to today but of interest

Check out a group called the Ned Stapleton Cumann.
They were a from the workers party and were based in RTE.
The stations director general referred to the as the left wing free masons....
Now for the funny bit and proof that people change. There leader was Eoghan Harris, who became a big supporter of Berti. (360 degree turn)

As I said usless history but perhaps interest to anyone with left wing
views. I doubt there are many left in RTE from that time but I find that the media in general is a race to the bottom and RTE have joined the race.

There is a story today in the Indo about Cowans running mate and some court case. The headline tries to link it to Cowan and when you read the story he has nothing to do with it. But make no mistake the next government will get the same rag media treatment which reduces the quality of people looking to go into politics which in turn is not good for us.

steelcityblues

ninty9er wrote: »

Give FG and Labour a hard ride for a change.

You really choose to ignore reality, don't you?

lucozader

The lyrics board is the last great production that rte made

Jayob10

Poly wrote: »

What about the FF luv-ins on Turbidy, Frontline, and dropping the feed on Vinny Browne? Not to mention all the FF plants in RTE.

Come on I hate FF as much as the next punter, but this talk about RTE being pro FF is a load of old tosh.

Fair enough, Tubridy has family links to the party, i'd agree with some bias there.

But the frontline? I think its actually a balanced show. Members of the public have their own forum to air their views about how the government have f*cked the country up.

RTE news also have given grillings to members of government over a period of time, as have Prime Time.

Vincent Brownes feed at that press conference was cut, not because he slate FF, it was cut because he has a high profile show on TV3. Its not a case of RTE showing bias to FF there, rather an unwillingness to broadcast a rival on their own station. And i'm not saying they are right about that by the way.

Andrew H

Andrew H wrote: »

The Licence Fee should go and RTE should be Privatised.

You want business and adds to pay for everything and public service television to end? which it would as it rarely makes money.

The amount of uninformed babble I come across in posts.

As for RTE being biased,Pat Kenny and Sean o' Rourke certainly aren't and those are their flagship politics presenters.
News items are broadly done factually.

Thirdly,there is a law in this country governing partisanship on tv news and current affairs programmes.
Consult the broadcasting act if you have any evidence of bias and take a case.
Theres a reason FG don't and I'll put it to you that it's because they don't subscribe to the bias idea.

The Waltzing Consumer

Byron85 wrote: »

They'll do what Fox News have been doing since Obama got into power in the U.S, i.e., saying that there are communists in government. We get that from some posters on here as it is when they are referring to Labour and Fine Gael; "the bearded ones" etc.

To be fair, this comment is as hysterical as anything Fox would air. To compare RTE and Fox news and imply they use the same tactics is ridiculous. It may be poor quality, it may have moments of apparent bias (which every single news organisation gets, no matter who or what) but there are leaps and bounds between private news corporations like Fox and RTE. To imply otherwise is a joke and detracts from the conversation.

meditraitor

RTE need to be privatised and forgot about,

no need for that station in this day and age.....,

If there is a need for a state television channel to broadcast community based programming then set a new one up, 10% of the cost

T runner

lucozader wrote: »

Over the last 10 years they have basically acted as a partisan wing of Fianna Fail.

All of the key people at RTE are fervent Fianna Fail supporters.

Will we finally see a free and impartial RTE after the Fall of Fianna Fail or will RTE continue to be useless.

Maybe they will be partail to FG an option you appear to have forgot to add. Are you being entirely partial?

Laois_Man

Jayob10 wrote: »

Come on I hate FF as much as the next punter, but this talk about RTE being pro FF is a load of old tosh.

Fair enough, Tubridy has family links to the party, i'd agree with some bias there.

But the frontline? I think its actually a balanced show. Members of the public have their own forum to air their views about how the government have f*cked the country up.

RTE news also have given grillings to members of government over a period of time, as have Prime Time.

Vincent Brownes feed at that press conference was cut, not because he slate FF, it was cut because he has a high profile show on TV3. Its not a case of RTE showing bias to FF there, rather an unwillingness to broadcast a rival on their own station. And i'm not saying they are right about that by the way.

That's pretty much exactly everything I was going to say!

ThisRegard

Jayob10 wrote: »

Come on I hate FF as much as the next punter, but this talk about RTE being pro FF is a load of old tosh.

Fair enough, Tubridy has family links to the party, i'd agree with some bias there.

But the frontline? I think its actually a balanced show. Members of the public have their own forum to air their views about how the government have f*cked the country up.

RTE news also have given grillings to members of government over a period of time, as have Prime Time.

Vincent Brownes feed at that press conference was cut, not because he slate FF, it was cut because he has a high profile show on TV3. Its not a case of RTE showing bias to FF there, rather an unwillingness to broadcast a rival on their own station. And i'm not saying they are right about that by the way.

Deleted User wrote: »

You want business and adds to pay for everything and public service television to end? which it would as it rarely makes money.

The amount of uninformed babble I come across in posts.

As for RTE being biased,Pat Kenny and Sean o' Rourke certainly aren't and those are their flagship politics presenters.
News items are broadly done factually.

Thirdly,there is a law in this country governing partisanship on tv news and current affairs programmes.
Consult the broadcasting act if you have any evidence of bias and take a case.
Theres a reason FG don't and I'll put it to you that it's because they don't subscribe to the bias idea.

The Waltzing Consumer wrote: »

To be fair, this comment is as hysterical as anything Fox would air. To compare RTE and Fox news and imply they use the same tactics is ridiculous. It may be poor quality, it may have moments of apparent bias (which every single news organisation gets, no matter who or what) but there are leaps and bounds between private news corporations like Fox and RTE. To imply otherwise is a joke and detracts from the conversation.

Laois_Man wrote: »

That's pretty much exactly everything I was going to say!

Careful lads, you may be painted as a FF supporter making these things up as I was !

Jayob10

ThisRegard wrote: »

Careful lads, you may be painted as a FF supporter making these things up as I was !

They won't be getting my vote thats for sure.

The whole idea of being a "supporter" of a political party is foreign to me. I know lots of people who are followers of a party and I always think what the f*ck like????

Personally, i'd break it down and examine the policies being put forward at the particular time and then vote on whats best in my own eyes.

This craic of voting for the party you are a "follower" of is a joke.

Cue picture of Biffo being flanked by 10-15 FF supporters at the ploughing championships or lovely girls contest or whatever, whilst those mentioed joe soap supporters get their mug on the news and revel in being important for their moment with the FF head honcho.

Happyman42

Jayob10 wrote: »

Come on I hate FF as much as the next punter, but this talk about RTE being pro FF is a load of old tosh.

Fair enough, Tubridy has family links to the party, i'd agree with some bias there.

But the frontline? I think its actually a balanced show. Members of the public have their own forum to air their views about how the government have f*cked the country up.

RTE news also have given grillings to members of government over a period of time, as have Prime Time.

Vincent Brownes feed at that press conference was cut, not because he slate FF, it was cut because he has a high profile show on TV3. Its not a case of RTE showing bias to FF there, rather an unwillingness to broadcast a rival on their own station. And i'm not saying they are right about that by the way.

^^^^Well said!

It's threads like these that make you realise how the Jackie Healy Rae's of this country get elected.

extra-ordinary_

Bertie's pal - Joe Duffy

johngalway

Privatize it.

They can get by on real peoples money, not footballers. Soon find out the BBC et al don't want them or their bloated wage bill.

They're not reliable, neutral nor objective, so they'll fit in with the private outfits out there.

It won't cost Joe Taxpayer a cent.

Happyman42

They are paid based on listener-ship and advertising revenue they bring in.
Something like 800,000 people tuned into Brendan O'Carroll That's what talks...listener and viewer ship figures. Advertising is sold on the the basis of that. Fairly common model throughout the world. I could get jealous about that but life is too short.
For instance do you think a newsreader would command the same wages as Pat Kenny?
Do you think huge amounts of listeners will tune in to listen to a particular newscaster?
Do you th....ah here!...I'm losing the will to live!

Fitzerb

Poly wrote: »

Lets see, "Fair city", "RAW" "Mattie" "Winning streak" "MRs browns boys", need I go on?
and before you say these are independent productions, RTE still pays for the sh1te with our money

Its really an easy question with no need to attack me. Just asking what are you comparing them too (station) when you make that judgement

cancercowboy

I am getting pretty fed up with the Fianna Fail bias on RTÉ myself.

RTÉ are doing their best to make Enda Kenny out to be an invisible man but as far as I can tell, that's mostly RTÉ's doing.

The number of times they've played clips from the Dáil with only Cowen and Gilmore for example.

This continues with wall-to-wall Fianna Fáil coverage over the last month and mostly Labour as token opposition. This when Fine Gael are the number 1 party in the country in elected seats and popularity.

On last nights news, Fine Gael's announcement on it's new 5 point policy for job creation was it's last news item.

The "leaderboard" on their new politics show the 11th Hour was rife with Fianna Fail bias and put Micheál Martin on the top... really subtle.

RTÉ should just be honest and start calling themselves "FF TV".

I, for one, am turning off RTÉ and gonna stick to Newstalk radio, newspapers and TV 3 for news without spin and bias.

I sincearly hope that the next government will sell off RTÉ.

the groutch

the TV Licence system as it is definitely needs to be abolished, or at least radically overhauled.
it might have been relevant in the 60's when people only had RTE channels, but now alot of people don't even watch RTE, i'm sure if people were given the choice to have it removed from their Sky/UPC channel package they would.
And if someone has a tv just for gaming/movies they still have to pay it.
Why should someone have to pay €160 for the right to own a TV, and use it to fund the rediculous salaries of RTE staff (some of which are more than the Taoiseach, or the US President).

paky

oh no, rte aint one bit biased. just take a look at the week in politics the other night. hanafin, varadakar and labour. what fianna fail wants rte produces. goebbels couldnt of done it better.

outandabout

Can't see anyone else doing it better with top class pundits/presenters like Bryan Dobson and Sean O'Rourke.

petroltimer

why can't we finally get our say on a lot of the issues in these boards in a referendum,

TV licence fee yes/no
compulsory Irish yes/no
etc

The new government will be the same as the last, afraid of democracy

Son Of A Vidic

outandabout wrote: »

Can't see anyone else doing it better with top class pundits/presenters like Bryan Dobson and Sean O'Rourke.

Your having a laugh surely?

RandomName2

PeterIanStaker wrote: »

Lads, FF aren't out yet, much as we'd all like them to be.

RTE (and Independent Newspapers) will do their masters' bidding until they are, and possibly after.

Wait til you see the Late Late during the election campaign, you may as well just vomit now in anticipation.

Their biggest advantage is SF (who I also think are a waste of oxygen) because they're always a convenient bogeyman.

OHHHHhhhhh I wouldn't be so sure about that!

The wind from Vichy seems to have changed, and RTE have started making anti-FF noises to chime in with the popular front. Of course, they are supposed to be impartial. :rolleyes:

Also, RTE does seems to be leaning in support of SF, at the moment.

petroltimer

i never took much notice of weather RTE were pro FF\anti FG before reading this thread.
But took more notice last night when watching 11pm news on RTE2,
so they showed brian cowen doing his farewell speech and then they said the opposition talked and cue the labour leader and then an SF speech and finally we saw the greens wandering off with one of their election posters, not one shot or speech from FG and enda kenny,

No wonder we never hear from enda kenny,, RTE really do despise FG for some reason, are FG going to cut the licence fee? I HOPE SO!

Happyman42

petroltimer wrote: »

i never took much notice of weather RTE were pro FF\anti FG before reading this thread.
But took more notice last night when watching 11pm news on RTE2,
so they showed brian cowen doing his farewell speech and then they said the opposition talked and cue the labour leader and then an SF speech and finally we saw the greens wandering off with one of their election posters, not one shot or speech from FG and enda kenny,

No wonder we never hear from enda kenny,, RTE really do despise FG for some reason, are FG going to cut the licence fee? I HOPE SO!

Cripes even the Weather is pro FF!!!:eek:

'Why does it always rain on me'........Enda Kenny

Owen

RTE is a perfect example of broken Ireland. Presenters on half a million Euro +, poor programme production, the same presenters being recycled over and over again due to cronyism, and a corrupt moral system at the helm. It needs a reboot and it needs to be severed from public finances.

ISAW

ThisRegard wrote: »

Careful lads, you may be painted as a FF supporter making these things up as I was !

AHA! So you WERE making them up!

FF had RTE practically paid off by allowing them to pay themselves massive amounts of money, if you cant see this then god help you. Miriam O Callaghans brother no less is of of Michael Martins front men now. No wonder she was so aggressive the other night toward the opposition.

The license fee has to go, i`ll be mentioning it to politicians at the door. I dont want to fund the extravagant lifestyles of FF puppets.

cancercowboy

Everytime I turn on RTÉ news why it's Micheál Martin, Micheál Martin, Micheál Martin!

Honestly, RTÉ has become the Fox News of Ireland

cancercowboy

petroltimer wrote: »

i never took much notice of weather RTE were pro FF\anti FG before reading this thread.
But took more notice last night when watching 11pm news on RTE2,
so they showed brian cowen doing his farewell speech and then they said the opposition talked and cue the labour leader and then an SF speech and finally we saw the greens wandering off with one of their election posters, not one shot or speech from FG and enda kenny,

No wonder we never hear from enda kenny,, RTE really do despise FG for some reason, are FG going to cut the licence fee? I HOPE SO!

I think RTÉ is an excellent candidate for privatisation. Sell it off.

petroltimer

Deleted User wrote: »

FF had RTE practically paid off by allowing them to pay themselves massive amounts of money, if you cant see this then god help you. Miriam O Callaghans brother no less is of of Michael Martins front men now. No wonder she was so aggressive the other night toward the opposition.

The license fee has to go, i`ll be mentioning it to politicians at the door. I dont want to fund the extravagant lifestyles of FF puppets.

maybe that explains her terrible interview of Cowen a few weeks ago, although i don't rate her at all as a political interviewer, she is only so well thought of because she has knocked out more sprogs than the old woman in the shoe.

TeddyTedson

Poly wrote: »

The home made shows are crap, the presenters are overpaid tools, their news can be trusted. Newstalk does a better job. Close it down.

You mean their news can't be trusted? Am I right?

MrVestek

What are they going to do now?

Hopefully take 'The Savage Eye' off the air....

IngazZagni

For me I would like to see the license fee abolished but of course we would need a vote on it. No doubt if it did happen, say goodbye to much of the free to air sports events as these will go to pay tv channels. Some may not mind that but what about the people that just can't afford satellite/Cable TV?

As for RTE bias, I don't really see it. The reason that FF have been getting the most coverage is because they are the majority party in (used to be) Government. They have also been making the most noise in news worthy coverage.