Why aren't we allowed slag fat people?

leggo

I'm highly aware that this might hit a nerve...if it can find one. But why the **** aren't we allowed ridicule fat people?

I write this after hearing a funny clip on Loose Women where they were 'congratulating' some bird on getting a gastric bypass. Well done...you paid money to pretend you hadn't eaten. But whatever. The host turns around and says, "Well can I get a round of applause for never getting fat in the first place?"

I'm a smoker (and no bodybuilder myself either for the record...I'd be open to the odd slagging no doubt) and every day I hear "You're doing it to yourself", "You're going to die young" and so on.

But say that to a fat person and, woah betide, **** hits the fan.

If anything we should be jealous of them. I love Domino's. I wish I had eaten as much of it in my lifetime as they have.

Just a thought.

leggo

I was expecting wittier replies than that. C+

Sergeant

It's glandular they say as they waddle to the fridge for more sausage rolls and beer.

af_thefragile

Because teh have feelings too......

Riamfada

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUb_lxbcO7Q

Mind44

Cause they're all allergic to da fruit and veg.

Darlughda

Are you that desperate to find some group in society that you can despise or deride?

How insecure and fúcked up are you?

Just because it is a popular notion to despise overweight people, and somehow 'justify' this nastiness by saying its their own fault, the truth is its not as black and white as that.

The fact that you have a problem with this shows what a desperate character you must have scrabbling for a hate group, to feel better about your pathetic existence.

What is your daily diet like OP?

How much drink to you honestly have each week?

I am slim, by sheer luck, not through effort, discipline, good diet and excercise. I know many others who struggle with being overweight and they are very careful with their diet and excercise regularly.

I am sick and tired of seeing overweight people being abused by people, because somehow its considered acceptable.

How much excercise do you take?

Why haven't you given up cigarettes?

Jagle

i totally agree with the OP

leggo

Darlughda wrote: »

Are you that desperate to find some group in society that you can despise or deride?

How insecure and fúcked up are you?

Just because it is a popular notion to despise overweight people, and somehow 'justify' this nastiness by saying its their own fault, the truth is its not as black and white as that.

The fact that you have a problem with this shows what a desperate character you must have scrabbling for a hate group, to feel better about your pathetic existence.

What is your daily diet like OP?

How much drink to you honestly have each week?

I am slim, by sheer luck, not through effort, discipline, good diet and excercise. I know many others who struggle with being overweight and they are very careful with their diet and excercise regularly.

I am sick and tired of seeing overweight people being abused by people, because somehow its considered acceptable.

How much excercise do you take?

Why haven't you given up cigarettes?

Because cigarettes make me cool. Eh...duh?

TeddyTedson

leggo wrote: »

I'm highly aware that this might hit a nerve...if it can find one. But why the **** aren't we allowed ridicule fat people?

I write this after hearing a funny clip on Loose Women where they were 'congratulating' some bird on getting a gastric bypass. Well done...you paid money to pretend you hadn't eaten. But whatever. The host turns around and says, "Well can I get a round of applause for never getting fat in the first place?"

I'm a smoker (and no bodybuilder myself either for the record...I'd be open to the odd slagging no doubt) and every day I hear "You're doing it to yourself", "You're going to die young" and so on.

But say that to a fat person and, woah betide, **** hits the fan.

If anything we should be jealous of them. I love Domino's. I wish I had eaten as much of it in my lifetime as they have.

Just a thought.

It's a bit different than smoking though isn't it.
Everybody eats. People might be fat as babies and be that way their entire life. If you're brought up eating far too much and your fat your not going to see a problem. Sure you might realise you're fat but not care enough too change.
To be perfectly honest I don't think the majority of people really don't know what a healthy diet consists of.

_Whimsical_

Because it's recognised that poor body image is associated with the development of all sorts of problems including eating disorders which can be fatal.

Also it's not all that funny or clever for the most part. It's a pretty obvious and dull place to go when slagging someone off.

ALSO more people are fat than ever before so when you're slagging off someones weight chances are you're inadvertantly also slagging off the body shape of the person you're slagging them off too... or that of their family, bf/gf whoever. Someone close enough that you might cause offence anyway.

If you're hard enough up for material that you need to go with making jokes about someones weight you want to watch out... because stupid people are still fair game for slagging.

Ghandee

I'm lucky enough not to be over weight also.
I don't ever find the need to slag over weight people though.

As stated above, it can be a sickness, would you slag someone with say Downs Syndrome, or some one in a wheel chair?

Cool_CM

leggo wrote: »

But why the **** aren't we allowed ridicule fat people?

We're not? When did this happen?

Johro

leggo wrote: »

Because cigarettes make me cool. Eh...duh?

It's not working.

fonecrusher1

leggo wrote: »

I'm highly aware that this might hit a nerve...if it can find one. But why the **** aren't we allowed ridicule fat people?

I write this after hearing a funny clip on Loose Women where they were 'congratulating' some bird on getting a gastric bypass. Well done...you paid money to pretend you hadn't eaten. But whatever. The host turns around and says, "Well can I get a round of applause for never getting fat in the first place?"

I'm a smoker (and no bodybuilder myself either for the record...I'd be open to the odd slagging no doubt) and every day I hear "You're doing it to yourself", "You're going to die young" and so on.

But say that to a fat person and, woah betide, **** hits the fan.

If anything we should be jealous of them. I love Domino's. I wish I had eaten as much of it in my lifetime as they have.

Just a thought.

Let the hate go. Its not your fault. hey hey..its not your fault. Its not your fault...its not your fault /cyber hug, bubble of snot emerges from OP's snout due to hysterical crying - pushes op away on hearing mucous discharge...



Thats enough. Stop your blubbering.

we'llallhavetea_old

No one is stopping you op, knock yourself out

TeddyTedson

leggo wrote: »

Because cigarettes make me cool. Eh...duh?

No no no no no, CIGARS make people cool :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tpo6_1ULL4

Up-n-atom!

Because if they hear you doing so they'll sit on you and crush you to death, then bbq your skinny little smoked carcass!

leggo

TeddyTedson wrote: »

No no no no no, CIGARS make people cool :cool:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Tpo6_1ULL4

I'm cool but I'm not THAT cool.

Maybe that's why all of this hate is bubbling inside of me actually. And I want to take it out on the fat guys who get all the chicks...:(

Sergeant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d4eLzUD-0I

macquarie

Darlughda wrote: »

Are you that desperate to find some group in society that you can despise or deride?

How insecure and fúcked up are you?

Just because it is a popular notion to despise overweight people, and somehow 'justify' this nastiness by saying its their own fault, the truth is its not as black and white as that.

The fact that you have a problem with this shows what a desperate character you must have scrabbling for a hate group, to feel better about your pathetic existence.

What is your daily diet like OP?

How much drink to you honestly have each week?

I am slim, by sheer luck, not through effort, discipline, good diet and excercise. I know many others who struggle with being overweight and they are very careful with their diet and excercise regularly.

I am sick and tired of seeing overweight people being abused by people, because somehow its considered acceptable.

How much excercise do you take?

Why haven't you given up cigarettes?

If ever a post deserved thanks, for truly exposing and ascertaining the real intentions behind the OP's statements - this is it.

Sharpshooter

leggo wrote: »

I'm highly aware that this might hit a nerve...if it can find one. But why the **** aren't we allowed ridicule fat people?

Because it's hurtful and insensitive?

leggo wrote: »

I write this after hearing a funny clip on Loose Women where they were 'congratulating' some bird on getting a gastric bypass. Well done...you paid money to pretend you hadn't eaten. But whatever. The host turns around and says, "Well can I get a round of applause for never getting fat in the first place?"

That was insensitive too.

leggo wrote: »

I'm a smoker (and no bodybuilder myself either for the record...I'd be open to the odd slagging no doubt) and every day I hear "You're doing it to yourself", "You're going to die young" and so on.

But say that to a fat person and, woah betide, **** hits the fan.

Smokers are addicted to nicotine, not all overweight people are addicted to food.

Some hormone problems may cause overweight and obesity, such as underactive thyroid (hypothyroidism).

Underactive thyroid is a condition in which the thyroid gland doesn't make enough thyroid hormone. Lack of thyroid hormone will slow down your metabolism and cause weight gain. You'll also feel tired and weak.

How can you tell the overeater apart from the person suffering from an underactive thyroid glan?

You can't, which is why you shouldn't cast aspersions on them.

leggo wrote: »

If anything we should be jealous of them. I love Domino's. I wish I had eaten as much of it in my lifetime as they have.

Just a thought.

Shame on you OP!

I don't buy this glandular thing for one second. If the obesity stats are sky rocketing, that's because of overeating, not because of some genetic defect that has crept into our population.
And why is it only rich countries that have this glandular thing anyway? Been in asia four months now and have only seen a handful of fat people.. Are they just lucky to not have this glandular defect in their race or is it because they don't eat bad food?

macquarie

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't buy this glandular thing for one second. If the obesity stats are sky rocketing, that's because of overeating, not because of some genetic defect that has crept into our population.
And why is it only rich countries that have this glandular thing anyway? Been in asia four months now and have only seen a handful of fat people.. Are they just lucky to not have this glandular defect in their race or is it because they don't eat bad food?

Even if it's not glandular, (which I agree with you on) what difference does it make to you if some random person walking down the street eats more food than you, or is unhealthy? How are they negatively impacting on your life in any way? The only people bothered by fat people are those with not much going on in their own lives by the sound of it. The only person's health I care about is myself and perhaps some close family , as far as I'm concerned the rest of the world can spend money on and eat whatever they choose. Means nothing to me.

admiralofthefleet

everyone turns into a pieabetic eventually

Blatter

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't buy this glandular thing for one second. If the obesity stats are sky rocketing, that's because of overeating, not because of some genetic defect that has crept into our population.
And why is it only rich countries that have this glandular thing anyway? Been in asia four months now and have only seen a handful of fat people.. Are they just lucky to not have this glandular defect in their race or is it because they don't eat bad food?

Yes you are right.

It's not entirely people's fault their fat, it's more society's fault.
Far too much food like processed meals/buscuits/cakes/take aways/fizzy drinks are too readily available in the Western world. This stuff is fat more addictive and sweeter than real, natural food. Little to no preperation time is needed for this stuff too, which is also key. It's this ****e food which causes the glandular thing in the first place, combined with the increasing levels of stress throughout the Western world.

Until society changes and there will always be fat people.
Sad really.

Sergeant

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

It's not entirely people's fault their fat, it's more society's fault.

Rubbish. Society is blamed for everything these days. There is such a thing as personal responsibility.

Cavehill Red

Society is now becoming terminally hypersensitive due to political correctness. This has obvious negative impacts on both our ability not to delude ourselves and on our ability to tell the truth.
Personally,I think the only people who ought to be exempt from criticism are those incapable of making changes to their situations. Children, for example, or those with incurable illnesses or who are mentally deficient.
Everyone else should just man the fcuk up.
Morbidly obese? You're fat, not 'big-boned'. Stop eating so much and go exercise more. Quit telling you and me lies that 'it's glandular' or 'it's genetic'.

Blatter

Sergeant wrote: »

Rubbish. Society is blamed for everything these days. There is such a thing as personal responsibility.

Explain why far more people are fat now compared to 50 years ago then.

Sergeant

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

Explain why far more people are fat now compared to 50 years ago then.

Yes, there is more fatty and processed food than there used to be. But no one is under any obligation to eat it. Just because biscuits, soft drinks, fast food are readily available doesn't mean anyone is being forced to indulge in it.

Yakult

It comes down to laziness to eat healthy, exercise and more available fatty foods than ever.

Its personal imo. If it were societies fault we would all be fat.

Self-fucking-control.

PeakOutput

whats stopping you? slag whoever the **** you want

i personally dont need to make fun of anyone BUT i do think being overwieght is far to socially acceptable and fat people have far too many excuses for how they are

dont need to make fun of them over it though

Blatter

Sergeant wrote: »

Yes, there is more fatty and processed food than there used to be. But no one is under any obligation to eat it. Just because biscuits, soft drinks, fast food are readily available doesn't mean anyone is being forced to indulge in it.

I never said people are forced to indulge in it.

The fact is, alot people are going to indulge in it and there's isn't a whole lot you or I can do about it.

The only solution is to cut down the production of it.

Look, it's like anything. Just say there is more cocaine readily available in the world now compared to 50 years ago. You can bet your life that there is going to be a higher consumption rate by a higher number of people. There is nothing much any of us can do about it. The only real solution to the problem would be to make sure there is less cocaine readily available.

Blatter

R_H_C_P wrote: »

It comes down to laziness to eat healthy, exercise and more available fatty foods than ever.

Its personal imo. If it were societies fault we would all be fat.

Self-fucking-control.

Problem is here, not everyones self control is equal. Some people get fuller than other, quicker and that is a fact. Straight away these people are at a huge disadvantage.

Sergeant

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

The fact is, alot people are going to indulge in it and there's isn't a whole lot you or I can do about it.

The only solution is to cut down the production of it.

I don't want to do anything about it. If people choose to eat food that is bad for them, then let them off. What I certainly don't want is more regulation into what I can or cannot eat. If I want to eat a burger once a month, then I should be allowed. If someone chooses to eat a burger every day, then they should be allowed too. As long as they take personal responsibility for the damage it is doing to their body.

Oxenhandler

Blatter

Sergeant wrote: »

I don't want to do anything about it. If people choose to eat food that is bad for them, then let them off. What I certainly don't want is more regulation into what I can or cannot eat. If I want to eat a burger once a month, then I should be allowed. If someone chooses to eat a burger every day, then they should be allowed too. As long as they take personal responsibility for the damage it is doing to their body.

That's fair enough, that's your opinion.

I'm just pointing out that people will always be fat unless society changes.
And by change, I mean

1)Decrease production of ****e food.
2)Educate people better to make good food choices.

TeddyTedson

Thread is getting a bit state so lets change it a bit,
NEW Thread
Why aren't we allowed shag fat people?

Twee.

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

Explain why far more people are fat now compared to 50 years ago then.

It's about choice. "Society" brought microwave dinners, but didn't shove them in your mouth.

I have a mate who is very skinny naturally. She doesn't put on weight, and would like a few extra pounds on her hips. Girls in club toilets say "Omigawd you're SOOO skinny!", even though we don't know them, strangers. Imagine if she turned around to someone and said "Omigawd you're SOOO FAT!", and just walked out. Somehow I feel it wouldn't be taken up the same...

Also agreeing with the glandular bull****. YES it does affect some people, and I genuinely feel for them. It's a medical condition. It shouldn't be used as a cop out. The same with people self-diagnosing their kids with ADHD or Tourette's. No, you're child is just a badly behaved brat, sorry. If they had either of these conditions boy would you know about it.

The only solution is to cut down the production of it.

Eh, no. If I want to treat myself with a few biccies or a ready meal if I'm in a rush, I want them available. I can choose to have them in moderation. If someone else can't make this choice, we should take them off the shelves?

high horse

Big boned? I've never seen a fat skeleton...

Joe10000

Weakness should be tolerated regardless of how it manifests itself but I see nothing wrong with sneering under your breath. I'm sure we have all been sneered at for some reason or other.

Sharpshooter

leggo wrote: »

I'm highly aware that this might hit a nerve...if it can find one. But why the **** aren't we allowed ridicule fat people?

Just a thought.

What exactly do you consider fat?

Size 10, or 12 maybe? No?

What about size 14-16 or 18?

Have you ever considered the fact that you might be slagging off someone who to you looks fat, but they might have dropped 2 or three stone before you laid eyes on them.

And they most likely did that through hard work exercising and diet ect.

And then you come along, with your opinions.

ON THE INTERNET.

Twee.

Sharpshooter wrote: »

ON THE INTERNET!

But that's where all the best opinions are!!!

Blatter

Twee. wrote: »

It's about choice. "Society" brought microwave dinners, but didn't shove them in your mouth.


Eh, no. If I want to treat myself with a few biccies or a ready meal if I'm in a rush, I want them available. I can choose to have them in moderation. If someone else can't make this choice, we should take them off the shelves?

Read post #34 with regards to your first point.

With regards to your second point, I never suggested eliminating the ****e food, I suggested making it less readily available ie. decrease production. That way the people who do succumb to temptation too often, have less opportunities to do so. I'm not saying we should have to do this, I'm saying if we a society with less fat people in it, it has to be done. Unless you have any other ideas?

Sharpshooter

Twee. wrote: »

But that's where all the best opinions are!!!

Opinions, yes.:pac:

The best........not necessarily

benjamin d

I don't agree with the slagging off bit, but I fully agree that people tiptoe around the feelings of fat people far too much. Before anyone defends it with genetics or society or anything else, the simple fact is that most fat people have only themselves to blame.

Smokers are openly vilified and ridiculed by society and have no defence against it. I would argue that being very overweight is exactly comparable to smoking. Its the result of a poor lifestyle choice, and I think it would involve arguably the same amount of time and effort to quit smoking and get fit that it would take to quit overeating and get fit.

Its perfectly ok, and rightly so, to ridicule someone who is unfit because they smoke. Why is it not ok to ridicule someone who is unfit because they are a fat tub who doesn't watch what they eat?

Before anyone comes back at me, I know there are quite a number of people who genuinely have difficulty controlling their weight, but the majority of people just need to learn to have self-control.

Twee.

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

With regards to your second point, I never suggested eliminating the ****e food, I suggested making it less readily available ie. decrease production. That way the people who do succumb to temptation, have less opportunities to do so. I'm not saying we should have to do this, I'm saying if we a society with less fat people in it, it has to be done. Unless you have any other ideas?

But that's business - supply and demand. If consumers stop buying the product, the company won't make the product, or will change it to suit the buyer's needs. Change on the supermarket shelves must be a consumer-led operation. Consumers vote with their money. If you were a business person whose company made a best selling convenience food, would you sell less to shops because you felt bad for your buyer? No. Business is business and it reacts to its market. If, on the other hand, your best selling meal saw a decrease in sales, you would make the move to get people buying again. Less added salt or sugar, 10% more veg in every meal etc etc.

Blatter

benjamin d wrote: »

Before anyone comes back at me, I know there are quite a number of people who genuinely have difficulty controlling their weight, but the majority of people just need to learn to have self-control.

You see this is the common mistake.

Firstly, Fat people need to fundamentally change what they are eating whole wheat instead of flour, more vegetables, more fruit, more fish, more lean meats etc.

And then it becomes much easier to work on the self control bit.

benjamin d

SOCCER4LIFE wrote: »

You see this is the common mistake.

Firstly, Fat people need to fundamentally change what they are eating whole wheat instead of flour, more vegetables, more fruit, more fish, more lean meats etc.

And then it becomes much easier to work on the self control bit.

Ok fair enough, but its essentially the same point. What i meant by self control was eating healthier food not crap just because its easier, but I see how you picked it up.

Cook my sock

I slag fatties all the time.

Blatter

Twee. wrote: »

But that's business - supply and demand. If consumers stop buying the product, the company won't make the product, or will change it to suit the buyer's needs. Change on the supermarket shelves must be a consumer-led operation. Consumers vote with their money. If you were a business person whose company made a best selling convenience food, would you sell less to shops because you felt bad for your buyer? No. Business is business and it reacts to its market. If, on the other hand, your best selling meal saw a decrease in sales, you would make the move to get people buying again. Less added salt or sugar, 10% more veg in every meal etc etc.

Yes I understand it's a difficult situation but personally I'm in no doubt at all that these fast food giants/soft drink companies/sugar snack, ready meal companies are almost entirely to blame for the obesity epidemic the western world finds itself in today.

Something has to change, things can't keep escalating the way they are. It might take 10, 20 or 50 years but I do think Governments will take a stand on it someday.