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Why do stars twinkle?

  • 18-01-2011 9:58pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭


    Why?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,323 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Because the angels sprinkle them with fairy dust!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,825 ✭✭✭Fart


    They're winking at you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    Its the light from the star refracting in the atmosphere


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Look up stellar scintillation.

    It's to do with the turbulence of the winds in the atmosphere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    For the same reason that kittens have whiskers, the wind whispers and Santa has gonorrhea


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Svetti Arss


    tommyhaas wrote: »
    Its the light from the star refracting in the atmosphere

    If that's the case then why doesn't the Moon twinkle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    They don't twinkle if you view them out in space...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,349 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    They are like diamonds that shine and sparkle. Its just light reflecting them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    If that's the case then why doesn't the Moon twinkle?

    Its too bloody big to twinkle!

    Here's a wiki answer:

    Why do stars twinkle but not planets?

    Both objects in the sky are bright, circular discs. The light from a star enters the pupil of our eye and comes to a focus as a point at the back of the eye. If that light is followed backwards to the star, it forms a cylindrical bundle the size of the pupil but gradually widening as it nears the star. But so gradual is this widening that even at the edge of the atmosphere, 100 km up, the bundle is still about the same as the pupil say half a cm across. This is so narrow that wind currents of different temperature and refractive index can disturb the light and cause the star to twinkle. A planet is so much nearer that at the edge of the atmosphere the bundle is a disc metres across. The light from the planet that forms our image of it comes from hundreds of different pathways in this bundle and it is unlikely that many will be disrupted at the same time. The amount of disturbance is therefore much less and the planet appears as a steady point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Because we have nominated the word "twinkle" for the apparent change in light intensity caused by atmospheric changes to stars.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    because you touch yourself at night


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    tommyhaas wrote: »
    Its the light from the star refracting in the atmosphere

    What ^^ said.

    Want a semi interesting fact? Stars are so far away, the light you're looking at set out years ago and a star that you see in the sky may already have gone bang but the light of the explosion just hasn't reached us yet.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,563 ✭✭✭karlog


    There are no stars. It's a government conspiracy, what you see at night is one big hologram covering up whats really out there, which is the truth..............out there..........the truth............THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,515 ✭✭✭✭admiralofthefleet


    why does my bollox stick to the inside of my leg on a warm day?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,811 ✭✭✭xoxyx


    Hey - stars have to blink too y'know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    What ^^ said.

    Want a semi interesting fact? Stars are so far away, the light you're looking at set out years ago and a star that you see in the sky may already have gone bang but the light of the explosion just hasn't reached us yet.

    That's from the watchmen!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    Because they are actually burning and hence give off different and varying degrees of light....like the sun.
    Planets and satellites (like the moon) are not burning. They are just chunks of rock that don't twinkle because all they are doing is reflecting light shone upon them by a sun/star.

    A candle twinkles but a football illuminated by a flashlight doesn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    What ^^ said.

    Want a semi interesting fact? Stars are so far away, the light you're looking at set out years ago and a star that you see in the sky may already have gone bang but the light of the explosion just hasn't reached us yet.
    That's not semi-interesting, it's fascinating. The fact that you can actually pop outside today and look through a telescope at what a distant galaxy looked like a billion years ago....:eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,758 ✭✭✭✭TeddyTedson


    Because they are actually burning and hence give off different and varying degrees of light....like the sun.
    Planets and satellites (like the moon) are not burning. They are just chunks of rock that don't twinkle because all they are doing is reflecting light shone upon them by a sun/star.

    A candle twinkles but a football illuminated by a flashlight doesn't.
    But the SUN doesn't twinkle, or does it. Maybe it's just so bright it doesn't appear to.
    Is it as simple as this?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    That's from the watchmen!!

    Bill Bryson A short History of Everything actually. :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Because they are actually burning and hence give off different and varying degrees of light....like the sun.
    Planets and satellites (like the moon) are not burning. They are just chunks of rock that don't twinkle because all they are doing is reflecting light shone upon them by a sun/star.

    A candle twinkles but a football illuminated by a flashlight doesn't.
    Um...how can I put this politely...the correct answer is earlier in the thread :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    That's not semi-interesting, it's fascinating. The fact that you can actually pop outside today and look through a telescope at what a distant galaxy looked like a billion years ago....:eek:

    It's mind blowing really just didn't know if people feel the same kinda of awe I feel when I'm lucky enough to be out in the country on a clear moonless night and just look up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    If that's the case then why doesn't the Moon twinkle?

    Its down to the size, same reason planets dont twinkle. If a planet is close enough to the horizon it can twinkle as your line of sight cuts the atmosphere at quiet a small angle, hence more refraction. Its for this reason that stars/planets close to the horizon cant be relied upon for celestial navigation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,089 ✭✭✭ascanbe


    why does my bollox stick to the inside of my leg on a warm day?

    Because the angels sprinkle them with fairy dust.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,537 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    It's mind blowing really just didn't know if people feel the same kinda of awe I feel when I'm lucky enough to be out in the country on a clear moonless night and just look up.

    It'd be mind blowing if you could see stars as they are now, not x thousand + years ago ;)

    Someone go and invent warp drive already


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    But the SUN doesn't twinkle, or does it. Maybe it's just so bright it doesn't appear to.
    Is it as simple as this?

    I dont know,
    I will have a look in the morning.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,007 ✭✭✭knird evol


    This optical illusion is caused by the chemical reaction of oxygen and californium
    in the atmosphere of the Star as these molecules combine thus giving off super strings causing the Twinkle.
    The degree of twinkle is measured in 'edels' on a scale of 1 to 14


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 383 ✭✭Svetti Arss


    Bill Bryson A short History of Everything actually. :P

    A short history of nearly everything actually..

    Brilliant book highly recommended.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    knird evol wrote: »
    This optical illusion is caused by the chemical reaction of oxygen and californium
    in the atmosphere of the Star as these molecules combine thus giving off super strings causing the Twinkle.
    The degree of twinkle is measured in 'edels' on a scale of 1 to 14

    Dr Edel was the first person to discover this and has done extensive research on Twinkle Theory.


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  • Posts: 3,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Bill Bryson A short History of Everything actually. :P

    He stole it off Watchmen! :p:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    Um...how can I put this politely...the correct answer is earlier in the thread :)

    Venus doesn't twinkle at sunset. Why would the distance that the light travels have a bearing upon how the atmosphere interferes with that light?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    That's not semi-interesting, it's fascinating. The fact that you can actually pop outside today and look through a telescope at what a distant galaxy looked like a billion years ago....:eek:
    A photograph of the universe looking back approx 13 billion years into our universe's past.
    http://walkaboutblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/hubble_ultra_deep_field1.jpg

    Every spec of light you see is an entire galaxy containing more than a billion stars.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Venus doesn't twinkle at sunset. Why would the distance that the light travels have a bearing upon how the atmosphere interferes with that light?
    It's not just distance, it's light source.

    A star is a single light source, whereas light from a planet is already a reflection there are multiple sources of light from the same "dot"


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    A photograph of the universe looking back approx 13 billion years into our universe's past.
    http://walkaboutblog.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/hubble_ultra_deep_field1.jpg

    Every spec of light you see is an entire galaxy containing more than a billion stars.
    If you could get every fundamenalist religious person, and every power-hungry materialist to look at that picture and understand its implications, you'd have world peace at a stroke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    If that's the case then why doesn't the Moon twinkle?

    Somethign to do with it reflecting the suns light.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    fontanalis wrote: »
    Somethign to do with it reflecting the suns light.
    It actually does 'twinkle' - if you look at it through a powerful telescope, you will see the surface details shimmer and wiggle around now and then due to the same atmospheric effects that cause stars to twinkle. It's just a lot easier to see in stars because they are a point light source.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis


    It actually does 'twinkle' - if you look at it through a powerful telescope, you will see the surface details shimmer and wiggle around now and then due to the same atmospheric effects that cause stars to twinkle. It's just a lot easier to see in stars because they are a point light source.

    It's twinkle, twinkle littler star, not twinle, twinkle little moon. Are you disagreeing with a classic nursery rhyme?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,100 ✭✭✭tommyhaas


    It actually does 'twinkle' - if you look at it through a powerful telescope,

    Is that an iphone app?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭lil_lisa


    You're all wrong. You see, stars are born and in order for them to be acknowledged as grown up stars, they must learn the ability to twinkle. They spend all their hours and days as baby stars doing good deeds and being happy so that one day they will learn and be able to twinkle. They twinkle because it is their destiny. There are actually a few competitions I believe for the most twinkliest star!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    If you could get every fundamenalist religious person, and every power-hungry materialist to look at that picture and understand its implications, you'd have world peace at a stroke.

    Surprisingly that imagine only increases my awe towards the creator who set it all in motion in the first place. It is almost spiritually enlightening! All of our collective worth and understanding not even an atoms worth compared to the scale and design of the universe. We must be utter and absolute fools when we say we know the secrets of the universe!!

    For the materialists, it should give them a perspective of how fragile our planet is when looked along with the constant chaos present everywhere.
    http://multimedia4everyone.com/faith_science_commentary/media/photo_earth-from-space.jpg
    http://www.creationoutreach.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/earth-from-space-western.jpg

    The fuzzy haze that outlines the planet is all we have of our atmosphere. Its that fuzzy haze which sustains all life on the blue marble floating along the empty darkness of space...

    I particularly like the first pic. It looks so calm and serene from afar... Yet the close you get to the surface, the serenity crumbles down into a static discord of chaos, violence and destruction...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,986 ✭✭✭Red Hand


    lil_lisa wrote: »
    You're all wrong. You see, stars are born and in order for them to be acknowledged as grown up stars, they must learn the ability to twinkle. They spend all their hours and days as baby stars doing good deeds and being happy so that one day they will learn and be able to twinkle. They twinkle because it is their destiny. There are actually a few competitions I believe for the most twinkliest star!

    Here is an annual winner!

    http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSbKhNRGNAkvFRaigY1Nm5LAphKDS0A381AJSGR9Bk40_TYfqaJ


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭fontanalis




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    OisinT wrote: »
    It's not just distance, it's light source.

    A star is a single light source, whereas light from a planet is already a reflection there are multiple sources of light from the same "dot"

    That's what I said. Stars provide an undullating light source whereas planet are just relectors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,231 ✭✭✭✭ejmaztec


    lil_lisa wrote: »
    You're all wrong. You see, stars are born and in order for them to be acknowledged as grown up stars, they must learn the ability to twinkle. They spend all their hours and days as baby stars doing good deeds and being happy so that one day they will learn and be able to twinkle. They twinkle because it is their destiny. There are actually a few competitions I believe for the most twinkliest star!

    I think that could be a very long-winded way of you telling us that, on the subject of twinkling stars, you were off sick on the day the subject came up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    That's what I said. Stars provide an undullating light source whereas planet are just relectors.
    Um..they don't. You're wrong on this one. Some stars do fluctuate in their light output, but over the course of decades or centuries or longer, not seconds.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Surprisingly that imagine only increases my awe towards the creator who set it all in motion in the first place. It is almost spiritually enlightening!

    Which creator are you referring to?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 911 ✭✭✭whatsamsn


    That's not semi-interesting, it's fascinating. The fact that you can actually pop outside today and look through a telescope at what a distant galaxy looked like a billion years ago....:eek:

    I dont know much about the subject of stars but surely looking at a star with the naked eye .... then with a telescope would give me the same aged view of the star? (Since it would take the same amount of lightyears to reach either right?)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,171 ✭✭✭af_thefragile


    Um..they don't. You're wrong on this one. Some stars do fluctuate in their light output, but over the course of decades or centuries or longer, not seconds.

    Variable Star's do fluctuate very regularly and some very fast...

    Regularly... that's such a funny word to say out loud...!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,919 ✭✭✭✭Gummy Panda


    Only Beth Gaga Shaggy knows the truth



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