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Cheated

  • 17-01-2011 11:41am
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    I did a really stupid thing on Sat night, I ended up with a girl from a party and back in a Hotel, we didnt have full on Sex but lots of messing if you know what I mean. I'm so ashamed. I can't believe I did this, I'm married for 8 years and have 2 beautiful kids, I have been so depressed the last 2 days about this. I have never done anything like this before or even been tempted. I know its hard to believe but I really do love my wife, I cant tell her as she'd be devestated.

    I don't know what to do, I feel suicidal for the first time in my life. I wish I could go back 2 days and stop it from happening. I'm not making excuses for drinking but generally I only drink beer but I have been drinking Vodka to try and lose some weight and I know it didnt agree with me.

    I told one of my closest friends yesterday and he said to just say nothing and let it pass.

    I'm such an idiot.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    What advice are you looking for exactly? To receive forgiveness in a forum from anonymous posters? You cheated. You've essentially ruined your own life and if your family find out, their lives will be ruined too. You can't blame drink. You remember going there with this woman. You were capable of 'doing stuff' but you failed to stop yourself at any time, on the walk back to the hotel, the walk up the hall to the room... You can't love your wife. I love my wife and could never, ever do this no matter how much drink I had.

    Drink doesn't "make you" do stuff. It just gives you courage to do what you already wanted to do deep down inside.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 506 ✭✭✭common sense brigade


    Give up the vodka and the Beer. If you cant behave like a decent man with drink on you, quit drinking. Really change yourself and treat your wife with love and respect. If you so suicidal and sick over what you did, then give up the drink completely. You shouldnt be going out drinking if your incapable of acting with restraint in tempting situations. When people are really sorry about something they have done wrong, they make real changes to ensure they do not do it again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,166 ✭✭✭Cheeky_gal


    Usually I would NEVER give this advice but here it goes - Don't tell your wife.

    The reason i say this is because it's clearly obvious from reading your post that you deeply regret it and will never do anything of the sort again however, with that said, give up alcohol completely or limit yourself to one or two to prevent the above happening again.

    I completely disagree with the above poster who said "alcohol does not 'make you' do things". We've all done stuff under the influence which we're ashamed of, some people have done worse than others - in this case you cheated on your wife and children.

    I'm definately not saying it's OK what you did, I'm merely saying that some people have an alcohol intolerence and you sound like on of these people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thanks for your opinions, I'm not sure I was looking for advice, I just needed to write how I'm feeling. We've been with each other for nearly 20 years and nothing like this has happened before I have never even contemplated it. I'm not perfect, I made a mistake, I wish I could change it but I can't. All I can hope for is that she doesnt find out. I wasnt able to eat my lunch and couldnt sleep last night, I have tears in my eyes. I guess I just want to know how long will I feel like this for.

    Just feel so guilty.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,673 ✭✭✭Miss Fluff


    I think you being consumed with guilt is your "punishment" as it were. You'll always feel bad about it, but confessing all really isn't going to result in anything positive coming from this situation. For goodness' sake don't tell your wife, lay off the vodka as it evidently makes you go loopers, and endeavour not to ever get into that type of situation again. I'd also make damn sure your mate never repeats a word of this to anyone.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 514 ✭✭✭argentum


    Please dont tell your wife and feck up her life.Live with the guilt.get yourself tested if you need to and try and move on.
    I would think more of the kids to be honest,your wife is an adult and you can talk to her but if you tell her your fecked, she could ask you to leave and split up and they would be destroyed.
    Please give up drink if you cant handle it and dont get your self into that situation again


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    Suchafool wrote: »
    Thanks for your opinions, I'm not sure I was looking for advice, I just needed to write how I'm feeling.

    This forum is for posters to post about issues and get advice so you'll probably be offered advice regardless. If you just need somewhere to write to sort your head out perhaps setting up a blog or something might help?

    All the best.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Distorted


    I feel sorry for the girl (did you tell her you were single?), your kids and your wife more than you. I bet you don't want to lose your wife - it would mean running the risk of losing your home, family and living in a rented room in a flat if she found out. I agree its best not to tell her but if you really don't want to mess up your life, don't put yourself into these situations where you can't resist temptation. Why were you at the party in the first place? Why did you drink so much?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭Wagon


    asgtsdg wrote: »
    Drink doesn't "make you" do stuff. It just gives you courage to do what you already wanted to do deep down inside.
    Yeah, completely true.

    Normally I would say to tell the other person and let them decide what to do next. But this is more complicated than that. 20 years is a long time and there are kids involved so they have to be considered too. If you are genuinely remorseful about it, I reckon don't tell her. But if it happens again, then DO tell her because there's something not right then and you deserve everything that happens after that.

    In the meantime, give up drinking or else stick to beer, something you are familiar with and can handle. Don't be boozing at all if you're on a diet. Don't put yourself in these situations and be very aware of what you are doing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thanks for your input, the girl knew I was married. As I said I know the single cause of this was drinking a lot of vodka, I know this for certain, I was in such a state I could have been anyones. This has never happened to me before in all the years I have been drinking. It is totally out of character for me, as I said anybody can make a mistake once, today has been the worst day of my life, I really do feel like driving off the pier. I don't know what to do, I really feel like I have to tell my wife but I know I shouldnt.

    I'm so useless


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭curlzy


    Hey OP,

    I'm glad you feel guilty, maybe feeling like a **** will stop you doing something so nasty again. Just wanted to point out that you didn't just cheat on your wife, for the sake of some fooling around you cheated on your children too. You've gambled their happy home, sense of security and family. Your actions are beyond dispicable. But like I say hopefully feeling crap will stop you doing something like this again. I personally don't believe the drink made you do this. I've done crazy things on drink, like seriously crazy things but I've never ever cheated no matter how drunk I've been because to me it's one of the filtiest, nastiest, most pathetic things you can do, so drink isn't an excuse. I wouldn't tell your wife unless this happens again. Why ruin her life and your kids life, never mind your own. You'll just have to live with your guilty conscience TBH you deserve to feel like crap. So suck it up and get on with it, hopefully it doesn't get back to her. If she somehow does find out then come clean immediately and maybe show her this thread but to be honest if she does find out I can't see it going well for you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭dub_3


    As others have said you need to control your drinking to prevent this happening again.

    It does seem you completely misjudged your ability to handle spirits.

    As for your dieting, yes there are less calories in a measure of spirits than in a pint, but you can drink the spirits a lot quicker. Two measures of spirits would be close to the calories in a pint. Then consider the calories in the mixer. There may be no gain at all.

    Also if you're drinking on an empty stomach (cos you're dieting) the alcohol will be absorbed into your system quicker. i.e. you get drunk quicker.

    So take care and make sure you don't put yourself in a position where you will loose control again and do something stupid.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    if you were as drunk as you make out, how exactly did you end up in a hotel with this girl? if you had the wherewithal to organise that, i think you need to stop putting so much blame on the vodka and start taking some responsibility...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    Suchafool wrote: »
    Thanks for your input, the girl knew I was married. As I said I know the single cause of this was drinking a lot of vodka, I know this for certain, I was in such a state I could have been anyones. This has never happened to me before in all the years I have been drinking. It is totally out of character for me, as I said anybody can make a mistake once, today has been the worst day of my life, I really do feel like driving off the pier. I don't know what to do, I really feel like I have to tell my wife but I know I shouldnt.

    I'm so useless

    I beg to differ. The single cause was you - not vodka - and some personal responsibility would go a long way to helping your cause, OP. Blaming drink and then heaping on the auld self-pity really doesn't come across as the conscientious husband filled with remorse.

    You have to have a long hard look at yourself and your marriage and work out why you were prepared to throw it all away for a quick fumble - and don't deflect responsibility into the bottom of a glass, you ingested the alcohol and then were coherent enough to get to a hotel room and indulge in some fooling around.

    It's not a question of "shouldn't" tell your wife, perhaps you should - only you can make that decision - if you are truly sorry and committed to ensuring it doesn't happen again then there is nothing to be gained from telling your wife other than causing more misery and heartache and appeasing your guilty conscience.

    Best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,842 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    OP, do what your friend says and let it pass. Yes you feel terrible but that is your punishment for what you did. It would be more unfair to put your family through the upset that would happen if you told your wife. So this is yours to deal with and if you learn anything from it, you wont do it again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,630 ✭✭✭Zen65


    Suchafool wrote: »
    I don't know what to do, I feel suicidal for the first time in my life. I wish I could go back 2 days and stop it from happening. I'm not making excuses for drinking but generally I only drink beer but I have been drinking Vodka to try and lose some weight and I know it didnt agree with me.

    Let's get the obvious out of the way first:

    Suicide would hurt your wife and kids more than cheating, especially since the events after that party would certainly come out afterwards. You don't help anyone by thinking that way; it's just being selfish!

    As for the incident itself, it is in the past and you cannot now change it. If cheating is not what you want to do then don't do it again, and for you that has to mean not putting yourself in the way of temptation i.e. not drinking any alcohol when you are away from your wife for any length of time, and not staying in the company of a woman who might tempt you. Don't delude yourself by thinking the vodka was at fault, as others have already rightly said. The problem is that somewhere in yourself there is a weakness, a doubt, a desire that you normally control when you are in the full of your senses. When you weaken that resolve with drink you can succumb to temptation.

    Be a better husband. Set yourself a goal now that you will remind yourself each day why you do not want to cheat on your wife, and go further to ensure that each day you let your wife and kids know how important they are in your life, and how much you love them.

    Don't do anything radical, all at once in that regard ..... you'll look like a guilty man.... but resolve to make it the norm that you tell your family how much you love them, by word or deed.

    Tell yourself how important they are to you. Say those words to yourself every day and you will not err this way again.



    Be at peace,

    Z


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭ando


    Suchafool wrote: »
    as I said anybody can make a mistake once

    No I don’t agree with that quote. I have been put into situations where I could have cheated but I didn’t, I had the strength to tell them where to go so no i dont agree with you on that. They are the exact words that came out of my ex's mouth a few weeks before she emotionally cheated on me...

    I don’t understand how so many ppl are telling you to stay quiet. The wife has the right to know the truth and then to make up her own mind, but it’s your decision.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Distorted


    See, I don't think you put yourself in the position of going out to parties without your wife and drinking so much that you claim to have lost your self control, without the idea that something might happen. I think going to a hotel with the girl is just taking things to their logical conclusion. But if you were my husband, I wouldn't be happy that you were going to parties and getting drunk at them in the first place. I'm not saying you have to live in each other's pockets, but going to parties and getting drunk (and no doubt flirting with women) are the actions of a single man, not a married man with kids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,724 ✭✭✭seenitall


    If I were in the position of your wife, OP, I'd damn well want to know what you've been up to behind my back. So I think the most honest and respectful thing to do would be to tell her. However, I am quite sure that that is the one thing you will not do, as that would require courage and integrity, and those things are in short supply when self-pity and avoiding responsibility ("drink made me do it") are the order of the day.

    Sorry, OP, but everything you have written on here so far indicates to me that you are on the slippery slope of repeating your "one mistake". People who successfully cheat stay quiet about it and blame it on external factors, so you're already on that path mentally.

    I don't like thinking of your wife any more than you do at the moment. Poor woman.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Juan Shallow Telegraph


    OP wallowing in self pity and blaming the drink is not fooling anyone. Come clean to your wife now. Moping about like an angsty teenager is not your "punishment". The only thing you could do that would even remotely convince me, personally speaking, that you mean what you said and that you're better off not telling your wife is to never drink again.

    Frankly, I think you should tell her AND tell her you won't touch a drop again. Show her you mean it, otherwise it's empty words and avoiding responsibility.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,119 ✭✭✭Wagon


    seenitall wrote: »
    If I were in the position of your wife, OP, I'd damn well want to know what you've been up to behind my back. So I think the most honest and respectful thing to do would be to tell her. However, I am quite sure that that is the one thing you will not do, as that would require courage and integrity, and those things are in short supply when self-pity and avoiding responsibility ("drink made me do it") are the order of the day.

    Sorry, OP, but everything you have written on here so far indicates to me that you are on the slippery slope of repeating your "one mistake". People who successfully cheat stay quiet about it and blame it on external factors, so you're already on that path mentally.

    I don't like thinking of your wife any more than you do at the moment. Poor woman.
    Yeah me too. But there is kids involved which really complicates matters. Then she could get a divorce (understandably) and then the kids would have to go through that as well. Other than that, the right thing to do would be to tell her.

    As a matter of interest OP, how old are your children?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 FilthyMickey


    Dont tell her mate whatever you do, nothing good will come of it. Even if she says she forgives you, she wont and it will eventually ruin your marriage. You have the power to move on, forget about it and just dont do it again.
    To be honest I have done loads of things that I would never do while sober. Its a fact that alcohol lowers inhibitions.
    Whatever other people say how good they are about not cheating when they had the chance, good for them but dont let them give you a worse guilty conscience than you already have.
    People talk themselves up a lot for being holyer than thou, take it with a pinch of salt.
    You made a mistake, you feel guilt about it, it will pass. It will pass even quciker if you make her life better and your kids by being extra nice and responsible to your family.
    People make mistakes, we all do in one way or another, thats what makes us human but its how we learn from them is what makes us a better person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,466 ✭✭✭Virgil°


    I'd be in fairly the same boat as Wagon. id be the first one to say normally that the offender should fess up. Once you cheat the decision to maintain the relationship no longer morally lays in your territory. The whole "use the guilt as your form of punishment, it'll only make things worse, its selfish, don't ease your own conscience" blahdeblah bullschit! Complete cop out.
    The only reason to my mind that you shouldn't tell her is because there are kids involved and they too will suffer the consequences.
    So as zen said, look to genuinely better yourself bit by bit. Not all at once because it'll be obvious. Don't for a second blame the alcohol. You did this.
    And just try to bear it and get past it for the sake of your family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,439 ✭✭✭ando


    To be honest I have done loads of things that I would never do while sober. Its a fact that alcohol lowers inhibitions.
    Whatever other people say how good they are about not cheating when they had the chance, good for them but dont let them give you a worse guilty conscience than you already have.
    People talk themselves up a lot for being holyer than thou, take it with a pinch of salt.

    Pinch of salt.. I’m sorry but have you ever been cheated on? It sounds like from that post that you have been the one doing the cheating. Do you know how it feels to be on the receiving end of it? I’m not talking myself up by being "holyer than thou", it’s just that I’ve never cheated. I have been tempted and have had the opportunity but I’m not that kind of person. I’m not trying to big myself up, its just who I am. I have respect for who I am with till the end, unfortunately some people don't and just stab us saps in the back, and I don’t feel any sympathy for any of them. In this case there are kids involved which I feel sorry for. I just don’t understand how ppl can cheat, never will


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,631 ✭✭✭✭Hank Scorpio


    asgtsdg wrote: »

    Drink doesn't "make you" do stuff. It just gives you courage to do what you already wanted to do deep down inside.

    Agree with first part of your post, but not with the above.

    OP give it a few days and the dirty, sleeplessness guilt will disspear, its all steming from the drink


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    OP, how can you be so sure that your wife won't find out about it anyway from someone else? I'm sure someone saw you leave the party? I'm sure it's possible people saw you walking to the hotel, or someone you or your wife know may work in the hotel. There are many ways that you probably never thought about which may allow your wife to find out about this. I disagree with everyone telling you not to tell her. She deserves to know what she married that could betray the trust of her and her children so much.

    Why were you at a party on your own and staying away overnight anyway? Unusual behaviour for a married man.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 200 ✭✭RoisinDove


    Dont tell her mate whatever you do, nothing good will come of it. Even if she says she forgives you, she wont and it will eventually ruin your marriage. You have the power to move on, forget about it and just dont do it again.
    To be honest I have done loads of things that I would never do while sober. Its a fact that alcohol lowers inhibitions.
    Whatever other people say how good they are about not cheating when they had the chance, good for them but dont let them give you a worse guilty conscience than you already have.
    People talk themselves up a lot for being holyer than thou, take it with a pinch of salt.
    You made a mistake, you feel guilt about it, it will pass. It will pass even quciker if you make her life better and your kids by being extra nice and responsible to your family.
    People make mistakes, we all do in one way or another, thats what makes us human but its how we learn from them is what makes us a better person.

    Holier than thou? You're just another one of those people who trivialises cheating as if it were a traffic violation or keeping a five euro note you found on the street. The OP took marriage vows, he promised to be faithful and he completely broke that promise! It's more than a little mistake. Saying 'oh I'll learn from it and never do it again' is the coward's way out. He says he feels bad but in my experience people like this really don't. They feel guilty for a week, then they justify it to themselves and make excuses for it. OP is already doing this! The right thing to do is to tell the wife and let her decide what to do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    You can think what you want of me but I can't agree that you dont make mistakes and drink doesnt affect your inhibitions, I genuinely feel like I had no control over what I was doing at the time. I know I'm generally a good person, husband and father and I know my wife knows that too and I would be reasonably confident she'd forgive me, if I told her but I also wouldnt like to hurt her anymore so I'll say nothing. I agree with most of the things you are saying, I will not put myself in this position ever again. I have learnt from this and it wont happen again.


  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Juan Shallow Telegraph


    Suchafool wrote: »
    I would be reasonably confident she'd forgive me, if I told her
    So tell her.
    but I also wouldnt like to hurt her anymore so I'll say nothing.
    Lying and deceit is hurting her. It's just not hurting you, which I suspect is what you are more concerned about especially as you said she might forgive you.
    I have learnt from this and it wont happen again.

    Is this supposed to reassure anyone? It shouldn't have happened in the first place.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 469 ✭✭GoldenTickets


    Suchafool wrote: »
    but I also wouldnt like to hurt her anymore so I'll say nothing.

    Wow, how considerate of you!

    This is a pathetic atttempt to excuse not coming clean and it will fool nobody but you.

    God I hope your wife finds out about this from someone else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 FilthyMickey


    ando wrote: »
    Pinch of salt.. I’m sorry but have you ever been cheated on? It sounds like from that post that you have been the one doing the cheating. Do you know how it feels to be on the receiving end of it? I’m not talking myself up by being "holyer than thou", it’s just that I’ve never cheated. I have been tempted and have had the opportunity but I’m not that kind of person. I’m not trying to big myself up, its just who I am. I have respect for who I am with till the end, unfortunately some people don't and just stab us saps in the back, and I don’t feel any sympathy for any of them. In this case there are kids involved which I feel sorry for. I just don’t understand how ppl can cheat, never will

    Good for you if you will never cheat. Sorry for you if you have been cheated on. My post is directed at the OP as to not to listen to people who will lecture him about what he already knows was wrong.
    People cheat for all sorts of reasons and circumstances and your circumstances may be different to his.
    And no, your presumption of me cheating is incorrect and irrelevent.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 FilthyMickey


    Suchafool wrote: »
    You can think what you want of me but I can't agree that you dont make mistakes and drink doesnt affect your inhibitions, I genuinely feel like I had no control over what I was doing at the time. I know I'm generally a good person, husband and father and I know my wife knows that too and I would be reasonably confident she'd forgive me, if I told her but I also wouldnt like to hurt her anymore so I'll say nothing. I agree with most of the things you are saying, I will not put myself in this position ever again. I have learnt from this and it wont happen again.

    I wil agree to what another poster has said in that you are suffering some depression/guilt ect from the come down of a heavy drinking session. This will pass soon and you will be thinking more coherently.
    I believe you that you have learned a lesson and you wont do it again if you dont drink yourself into that sort of state. Wiseup and move on.
    Good luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭Distorted


    Suchafool wrote: »
    I genuinely feel like I had no control over what I was doing at the time. I know I'm generally a good person, husband and father

    That really implausible. If you had no control over what you were doing, you wouldn't have been able to chat up a girl you didn't know, book into a hotel, get into the room and physically have sex.

    Most people are generally good people, unless they're psychopaths.

    It sounds like you did it quite deliberately but have made a pact with yourself that its ok as long as you admit somewhere publicly that its wrong and you won't do it again.

    Until the next time you "have no control over yourself". Is this really the first time you have cheated on your wife?

    I do actually agree that people make mistakes but I don't think your responses indicate that you accept the blame for doing so which makes it unlikely to happen again.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 FilthyMickey


    RoisinDove wrote: »
    Holier than thou? You're just another one of those people who trivialises cheating as if it were a traffic violation or keeping a five euro note you found on the street. The OP took marriage vows, he promised to be faithful and he completely broke that promise! It's more than a little mistake. Saying 'oh I'll learn from it and never do it again' is the coward's way out. He says he feels bad but in my experience people like this really don't. They feel guilty for a week, then they justify it to themselves and make excuses for it. OP is already doing this! The right thing to do is to tell the wife and let her decide what to do.

    No you are mistaken, I am not trivialising cheating, its very serious and I would hate it done to me. I would honestly feel sorry for his wife and kids if they found out. I am trying to be logical here and give him the benefit of the doubt in that he has learned his lesson by realising the error of his ways.
    I mean if he never does it again and she never found out, well really no one is hurt are they? The children will still have a father and they wont suffer the fallout of a broken marriage. Damage limitation is what I feel is important here. The other side of the argument that was put forward was telling him to come clean otherwise hes a coward? Well I think the "coward" action is the right one here.
    Telling her because its the "right thing to do" does not sound logical to me if you look at the bigger picture.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29 FilthyMickey


    Distorted wrote: »
    That really implausible. If you had no control over what you were doing, you wouldn't have been able to chat up a girl you didn't know, book into a hotel, get into the room and physically have sex.

    Most people are generally good people, unless they're psychopaths.

    It sounds like you did it quite deliberately but have made a pact with yourself that its ok as long as you admit somewhere publicly that its wrong and you won't do it again.

    Until the next time you "have no control over yourself". Is this really the first time you have cheated on your wife?

    I do actually agree that people make mistakes but I don't think your responses indicate that you accept the blame for doing so which makes it unlikely to happen again.
    What does he have to do or say to warrant blame acceptance?
    When you mention "good people" and psychopaths above, are you thinking that the OP may be a psychopath cause he booked a hotel to have sex with a woman, in that it was premeditated?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    MAte don't even think about suicide. That would be far worse than your wife finding out. In cold logical terms its irrational too. Might as well wait and see if she finds out before doing it. Of course it would be just as bad for your family then too.

    What you did was wrong but you held off having sex so there's at least a shred of decency in you somewhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭kerryman12


    MAte don't even think about suicide. That would be far worse than your wife finding out. In cold logical terms its irrational too. Might as well wait and see if she finds out before doing it. QUOTE]

    Dude

    I dont like picking out others post when they are trying to help the OP, but WTF!!!

    Suicide wont help anyone at any stage, end of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 166,026 ✭✭✭✭LegacyUser


    Thanks for all your input again, its much appreciated, I'm not going to kill myself but that's just the way I felt yesterday. I know lots of people cheat but I never thought I'd be one of them. You just have to believe I'm genuinely remorseful, I'm just so sick in my stomach about it.

    Also, for the person who suggested its not the first time, well that's just ridiculous, why would I lie on a forum where nobody knows me. Everything I have said is the truth. I have been in situations before where a girl has come on to me and I've just fobbed them off. I have never gone out of my way to hook up with someone.

    All I can say is that I will never get into a situation where this will happen and if my wife finds out I will have to deal with the consequences.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,779 ✭✭✭up for anything


    argentum wrote: »
    Please dont tell your wife and feck up her life.Live with the guilt.get yourself tested if you need to and try and move on.

    So it's not fecking up her life to let her live a lie with a cheater!!!! :mad:

    I'm amazed by the replies here compared to the usual ones. There have been OPs on PI who have cheated on a boyfriend of several months and they have been pilloried and told that they are 'scum' and that they should 'fess up and give their other halves a chance to find some decent girl/guy and all that sort of stuff! What is the difference in this man's situation and theirs?

    ETA: I forgot to add my advice. Tell your wife. It's only right that she should know. I don't think guilt will be that much of a burden especially when you balance it against what you stand to lose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭gerryk


    I mean if he never does it again and she never found out, well really no one is hurt are they? The children will still have a father and they wont suffer the fallout of a broken marriage. Damage limitation is what I feel is important here.

    I'm glad someone is saying it. There are far too many taking what they see as the high moral ground, when it's obvious that the motivation behind this is purely vindictive and punitive. They just want to see the guy suffer with no thought for his children and the damage the fallout from something like this would have on them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    Please keep replies on topic and helpful to the OP and reply to threads in a civil and well phrased manner.

    If you have an issue with a post or poster, please use the report function rather than dragging the thread off-topic.

    If you haven't already done so, please take the time to read the forum rules in the charter.

    Many thanks.
    Ickle


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,726 ✭✭✭gerryk


    OP, just so we're clear, in my opinion, what you did is one of the most reprehensible breaches of trust a person can be guilty of. However, I don't believe any good can come of it telling your wife. What you do need to do is take a long, hard look at yourself and whatever drives you failed to keep in check and sort that out.
    As for the guilt... every time you feel guilty, turn that guilt into something positive you do for your family.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭allovertheshop


    OP,

    as a person who has been on the receiving end of being cheated on, i say don't tell her.

    you have two children together so realistically speaking, telling her is not going to break up your marriage because you'll probably put the children first and decide that the best thing for them is to stay together.

    so what you will end up doing is breaking your wifes heart and then she'll end up staying with you and questioning herself (and you) everyday. Everytime you are late home, she'll be wondering...everytime you say you are meeting friends, she'll be wondering. It's just not fair on her.

    What you did was so wrong, but you know that already, otherwise you wouldn't be on here looking for advice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,897 ✭✭✭Kimia


    I would also be normally of the opinion to tell her and let the chips fall as they may, but in this instance it appears that the OP is genuinely remorseful and horrified at his own behaviour. Coupled with the fact that he has never done anything like this before in 20 years, I would be confident that he will never do it again, especially after a shock like this.

    I totally disagree with the mystics saying that 'drink just lets the demons out that were there all along'. What a load of crap. I have been baloobas before and done stuff totally out of character, in fact one time I was horrible to someone (yelled at them really bad) that I really, genuinely like! It could have been anyone I was screaming at, because I was so drunk I didn't know what I was doing. It is terrible, but it doesn't mean that I really don't like that person deep down and my 'true' thoughts came out. I was just ranting like a lunatic! (Oh I still feel shame over that one :o)

    So my advice is similar to Gerry's above. Don't say anything. Live with the guilt. That will be your punishment. And use this as an opportunity to realise that you are very very lucky to have a family who love you. Make sure to be the best husband and father you can be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭I am a friend


    Suchafool wrote: »
    Thanks for your input, the girl knew I was married. As I said I know the single cause of this was drinking a lot of vodka, I know this for certain, I was in such a state I could have been anyones. This has never happened to me before in all the years I have been drinking. It is totally out of character for me, as I said anybody can make a mistake once, today has been the worst day of my life, I really do feel like driving off the pier. I don't know what to do, I really feel like I have to tell my wife but I know I shouldnt.

    I'm so useless

    Well with all due respect, you were sober enough for your equipment to work!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭I am a friend


    bluewolf wrote: »
    So tell her.

    Lying and deceit is hurting her. It's just not hurting you, which I suspect is what you are more concerned about especially as you said she might forgive you.

    Bluewolf, you are actually playing with peoples lives here... Your words or anyones on here may encourage him to tell her and to what affect...???

    He has been an ass but telling his wife will not change it and its better to learn from it and move on than to rip apart his family....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    You already cheated on her, OP. Do you really want the fact that you're lying about it sitting on your conscience, too?

    If you love her and respect her, you will tell her what you have done, show her the depths of your remorse, explain absolutely everything, and promise her you will do absolutely anything it takes to make sure you can regain her trust.

    Your wife is an adult and presumably an intelligent, mature woman. By not telling her, it means you don't think she's strong enough to make her own decision about what to do; it's insulting and deceptive and entirely NOT what you should be doing with someone you plan on spending the rest of your life with. What does it say about how you view her? There's also the fact that, more often than not, somewhere down the line the truth will come out. Do you want to risk her hearing about it from someone other than you? If she hears it from someone else she'll be wondering how many times it's happened, and it could seriously snowball.

    If your wife is an intelligent, mature woman, she should be able to read your sincerity if you are genuinely remorseful. Please have enough respect for her to be honest with her.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭I am a friend


    liah wrote: »
    Please have enough respect for her to be honest with her.

    You are idealising the situation here... Its better for him to treat ehr with respect and love for the next 50 years and never cheat again than tell her, to get it off his conscience and ruin her trust in him and the marriage.

    OP, I would normally never say this but 'Dont tell her'. you seem genuinely sorry and the best way to make it up to your family is to do right by them from now on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,750 ✭✭✭liah


    You are idealising the situation here... Its better for him to treat ehr with respect and love for the next 50 years and never cheat again than tell her, to get it off his conscience and ruin her trust in him and the marriage.

    OP, I would normally never say this but 'Dont tell her'. you seem genuinely sorry and the best way to make it up to your family is to do right by them from now on.

    I know I would consider being more forgiving if he came clean right away and showed me his remorse than if I found out down the line that he'd done it and then added insult to injury by lying about it to my face.

    Look at the circumstances.

    1) It only happened once
    2) He was an incoherent level of drunk
    3) He was remorseful to the point of contemplating suicide
    4) They didn't have sex
    5) He said it's possible that his wife would forgive him
    6) His wife has to consider the future of the family, too

    Put all these together, pair them with demonstrating (and I mean going all out) he'll do everything to win her trust back, and odds are fairly good that she won't throw away the relationship, and he'll have two less things on his conscience and possibly an even stronger relationship by the end of it because at least she'll know that if something happens (and not just in regards to cheating), he has enough respect for her to come clean and allow her to make her own judgments.

    Astonishing how many people are advocating making decisions for and lying to other people, especially the ones you claim to love.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭kerryman12


    This is a serious question now, I am not trying to be a w**ker but do you honestly believe that?
    and odds are fairly good that she won't throw away the relationship,


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