Fingal Tri's Duathlon Series, open for entry.

tinydave

Hi All,
Just sticking this up to let you know the Fingal Tri Club Duathlon series is now open for entries.

For information please see the below links

http://www.fingaltri.ie/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=125&Itemid=90


http://www.runireland.com/events/fingal-tri-club-duathlon-race-1

http://www.runireland.com/events/fingal-tri-club-duathlon-race-2

tinydave

Hi All,

Remember to get your one day licence if you need one by Thursday 17.02.2011

Cheers
Tinydave:)

nomadic

Whats the crack if I haven't received my TI licence yet? I applied last week but probably won't have it in time. Will a copy of the email do?

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

I might give this a go as the two dates do not clash with other races i have on.

adamski8

nomadic wrote: »

Whats the crack if I haven't received my TI licence yet? I applied last week but probably won't have it in time. Will a copy of the email do?

same here. applied 10 working days ago and no sign of it!

tinydave

Hey lads,

Any feedback on yesterdays race, good / bad points ? all welcome.
we had 117 signed up and 96 raced and 2 DNF's.great day had by all and the weather helped alot

Dave

Ah_go_on

Really enjoyed yesterday, lots of marshals and very well organised, I'll be back for the second one. I now know why that road is called heartbreak hill, nearly killed me on the 2nd run. Very friendly atmosphere aswell, well done. Any sign of results yet???

tinydave

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It's good to hear good feed back about the race esp as it was our 1st race.
Alot of talk about the hill, all good and people loving the challenge. See u in march so

nomadic

Great race with loads of marshalls and the weather was perfect. Maybe another bike marshall for the next one.;)

tinydave

That's gonna be looked at alright, their was a train of about 6-7 going passed us at transition, no even trying to hide it! :rolleyes:

nomadic

tinydave wrote: »

That's gonna be looked at alright, their was a train of about 6-7 going passed us at transition, no even trying to hide it! :rolleyes:

You the bald dude?

tinydave

There was bald welsh dude in transition and bald other guy floating around (that was me):D

adamski8

Really enjoyed my first event! I never expected the hill to be so steep! Im looking forward to next month, hopefully I can run all the way up the hill next time. Glad the one day licenses were made available on the day as I hadnt got my TI license in time.
That main road was the only bad point, really really bad surface for the bike.

nomadic

tinydave wrote: »

There was bald welsh dude in transition and bald other guy floating around (that was me):D

Ahh right, I was the chap who was following the train that gave you's a shout. Cheers for the offer of a doughnut. I'm sorry now I didn't take it.

adamski8

nomadic wrote: »

Ahh right, I was the chap who was following the train that gave you's a shout. Cheers for the offer of a doughnut. I'm sorry now I didn't take it.

whats a train?

nomadic

adamski8 wrote: »

whats a train?

Big line of bikes a little too close together.

tunney

For the sole reason that draftees got done unlike the other duathlons I will be back. blatant drafting and pathetic excuses afterwards "I couldn't have been drafting I was the fastest on the bike" four people said that. One if the top three claimed "but you just couldn't drop back when passed". No actually you could, you just didn't. Fantastic to see the rule enforced. Just wish more races did. As more and more clubs teach members how to draft in races it's great to see an organiser running a more fair race.

(a good race for lots of other reasons too really enjoyed it. Would be perfect if the first run was longer)

tinydave

nomadic wrote: »

Ahh right, I was the chap who was following the train that gave you's a shout. Cheers for the offer of a doughnut. I'm sorry now I didn't take it.

It was a lovely doughnut too..
I get to race in the march one so it means I can have 2 maybe 3 more doughnuts lol

nomadic

Yea I'd agree with that. Good to see penalties, it was a joke. Just disapointed I got roped in with the rest. What is the usual procedure with draft busting. Can it not be sorted out on the road? The bike passed a load of times but didn't say a word to anyone.

tinydave

tunney wrote: »

(a good race for lots of other reasons too really enjoyed it. Would be perfect if the first run was longer)

You could go up the Hill further Next time

mloc123

On the drafting issue... is 2mins not the standard penalty?

d4r3n

I thought it was marshalled very well, nice to have the Guards at the big junctions and with them stopping the traffic it almost felt like you were on closed roads, the minor roads were so quiet.

The drafting was quite bad in places though, I could see two guys taking turns for about 7-8 km.

DaveR1

tunney wrote: »

For the sole reason that draftees got done unlike the other duathlons I will be back. blatant drafting

Fantastic to see the rule enforced.

@Tunney.... Do you not think the fact that all 7 who were busted had a bike split exactly 1minute faster than the next best bike split (you), meant that by giving them the 1minute penalty just let them get away with it? It didn't change the order of the top 5?
However a correct 2min penalty or stopping them on the road as the rules imply when its constant, or disqualification, would all have moved you up to 1st?

tunney

Okay - I had assumed it was a 2 minute penalty. 1 minute is a joke and does not act as a deterent to drafting. In fact, knowing its only a minute the next time I ...............

Did I deserve to win - no.
However did some weaker bikers outsplit me - yes.
Is one minute fair no. Is 2, barely. 5-10 minutes pentlaty and that acts as a deterent.
Actually now that i think about it 1 minute, thats like saying "come race, come draft, its all good"
In fact I'm rather annoyed. I know some of the top five are much weaker than
Me on the bike but rode faster.

nomadic

tunney wrote: »

Okay - I had assumed it was a 2 minute penalty. 1 minute is a joke and does not act as a deterent to drafting. In fact, knowing its only a minute the next time I ...............

Did I deserve to win - no.
However did some weaker bikers outsplit me - yes.
Is one minute fair no. Is 2, barely. 5-10 minutes pentlaty and that acts as a deterent.
Actually now that i think about it 1 minute, thats like saying "come race, come draft, its all good"
In fact I'm rather annoyed. I know some of the top five are much weaker than
Me on the bike but rode faster.

I think the penalties given were convenient in that they showed that they acted on the drafting but it didn't really penalise anyone ie. avoiding any real controversy.

I'd be pissed off if it was anything more than a training race for me. Just for the record,I feel I would have gone quicker on the bike but there was no way past the group. I asked for the bike marshall to be sent up to the front as I passed transition after the first lap(tinydave can back me up on that one).

Ceepo

mloc123 wrote: »

On the drafting issue... is 2mins not the standard penalty?

My understanding is that for Sprint distance, penalty is 1 min, Oly is 2 mins and longer distances 5 mins,
1 minute is the correct penalty. not everyone will agree if its fair but them's the rules.

But as far as i know the draft marshal can stop (when safe) and give the time penalty and then the draftee can carry on about there race, and in this case 6 people as the first in line is deemed not to drafting could have been stopped.

Everyone knows that it happens and its good to see that something is been done about it

adamski8

I'm guessing everyone will be faster next race?! what times generally would people expect the times to go by? Would it be ambitious of me to aim for 10mins off my time of 1:16?

Fergus McGrath

Ceepo wrote: »

My understanding is that for Sprint distance, penalty is 1 min, Oly is 2 mins and longer distances 5 mins,
1 minute is the correct penalty. not everyone will agree if its fair but them's the rules.

But as far as i know the draft marshal can stop (when safe) and give the time penalty and then the draftee can carry on about there race, and in this case 6 people as the first in line is deemed not to drafting could have been stopped.

Everyone knows that it happens and its good to see that something is been done about it

Your right about the penalties there id say it would be more of a penalty to stop them on the course as it would work out as a more than 1 min penalty ! Ideally if we had a few motorbike marshals this would be the way to do it but unfortunately not able to be done for this race at east for the 1st one !
This is only our 1st race so we will definitely be aiming to improve as we go along
Roll on March 19th:pac:
And thanks for the feedback guys

tunney

I thought it was a well marshalled race and I was impressed at the number of volunteers.

If I was to do the next race I would do a few things differently. I would be lighter, I would wear a heavier runner. I would have practised short course transitions and stay on course on the bike. more importantly I'd sit off the back on the bike (legally or illegally - probably illegally) and wait for T2 and then run with fresh legs. One minute for drafting - cheers, I'll take that.

On a separate note is there a contact email address for the race organiser? Unrelated to anything discussed on this thread.

tunney

To clarify - I really enjoyed this race and thought the organisers, the club and the marshals did themselves proud. A challenging course with a nice post race spread.

tinydave

nomadic wrote: »

I think the penalties given were convenient in that they showed that they acted on the drafting but it didn't really penalise anyone ie. avoiding any real controversy.

I'd be pissed off if it was anything more than a training race for me. Just for the record,I feel I would have gone quicker on the bike but there was no way past the group. I asked for the bike marshall to be sent up to the front as I passed transition after the first lap(tinydave can back me up on that one).

Yep you gave us a shout as you went passed and you were well out of the drafting box when i seen you

tinydave

tunney wrote: »

I thought it was a well marshalled race and I was impressed at the number of volunteers.

On a separate note is there a contact email address for the race organiser? Unrelated to anything discussed on this thread.

i think we had 32/33 volunteers marshaling in the race and 3 of them were not club members so all was good


races@fingaltri.ie and the race director can pick up the mail there

duffyshuffle

I enjoyed the race even if my run fitness made the uphill a bit of a struggle, road surface wasn't great in places, but what you gonna do, we live in Ireland, very well marshalled, great to see draft busters out on the course, and at the pointy end of the race, event was very friendly, ran smoothly, nice after race food/drinks, a lot going for it, I would race again. Anything you could do to further split the field, like make the first run 4/5km?

adamski8

tunney wrote: »

If I was to do the next race I would do a few things differently. I would be lighter, I would wear a heavier runner. I would have practised short course transitions and stay on course on the bike. more importantly I'd sit off the back on the bike (legally or illegally - probably illegally) and wait for T2 and then run with fresh legs. One minute for drafting - cheers, I'll take that.

what does this entail and why would it help the run?

kennyb3

tunney wrote: »

I thought it was a well marshalled race and I was impressed at the number of volunteers.

If I was to do the next race I would do a few things differently. I would be lighter, I would wear a heavier runner. I would have practised short course transitions and stay on course on the bike. more importantly I'd sit off the back on the bike (legally or illegally - probably illegally) and wait for T2 and then run with fresh legs. One minute for drafting - cheers, I'll take that.

On a separate note is there a contact email address for the race organiser? Unrelated to anything discussed on this thread.

You left out shaving your legs btw:D

jcunniffe

adamski8 wrote: »

what does this entail and why would it help the run?

It means, he'd chill out on the bike and draft off the back of the train with his HR 10-15beats below what it was on Sunday, take his 1 minute drafting penalty and then kick ass on the run.

Which is why 1 minute is never a sufficient penalty in such a case.

J

adamski8

jcunniffe wrote: »

It means, he'd chill out on the bike and draft off the back of the train with his HR 10-15beats below what it was on Sunday, take his 1 minute drafting penalty and then kick ass on the run.

Which is why 1 minute is never a sufficient penalty in such a case.

J

ah i thought it was a way of leaning back on the seat
i take it if people keep drafting surely they can get multiple drafting 1min penalties no?

tunney

You'd think. But it seems not

tinydave

Hi Lads,
Just a quick note to say that the last race is on this Saturday and its starting at 10am instead of 11am
Hope to see a few of you there!
Drafting is on the main watch list this week, with a shoot to kill policy in full affect*
ok maybe not shoot to kill!!!!!

nomadic

Looking forward to it.

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

nomadic wrote: »

Looking forward to it.

+1

tunney

I hope to see you all on Saturday but I've no idea if I actually managed to enter successfully. Man that RunIreland site is so bad. I don't understand why race organisers use it -are the commissions that much less than something like ActiveEurope?

tinydave

tunney wrote: »

I hope to see you all on Saturday but I've no idea if I actually managed to enter successfully. Man that RunIreland site is so bad. I don't understand why race organisers use it -are the commissions that much less than something like ActiveEurope?

Email races@fingaltri.ie and get him to confirm if you have entered and explain what happened.
Hope to see you saturday, I will be the one squeezed into a fingaltri trisuit:-)

RobBaxter

Can you register on the day? When is the closing date for registration given that you're already a member of triathlonireland??

tinydave

RobBaxter wrote: »

Can you register on the day? When is the closing date for registration given that you're already a member of triathlonireland??

Howaya rob,
Give races@fingaltri.ie a mail and see if he can do anything for you, entries closed yesterday, I'm sure he can sort something out for you :-)

RobBaxter

tinydave wrote: »

Howaya rob,
Give races@fingaltri.ie a mail and see if he can do anything for you, entries closed yesterday, I'm sure he can sort something out for you :-)

Thanks Dave.

RobBaxter

Couldn't get an entry. Called the guy running the show. Race has reached it's full capacity!

If anyone wants to sell their entry or can't go please PM me and I will buy your entry from you.

Cheers,
Rob

tunney

RobBaxter wrote: »

Couldn't get an entry. Called the guy running the show. Race has reached it's full capacity!

If anyone wants to sell their entry or can't go please PM me and I will buy your entry from you.

Cheers,
Rob

<poopy hat>
No race transfer requests for races that don't allow transfers
</poopy hat>

My entry was sorted by the lads in Fingal - cheers. Now if only they could clear my tummy bug.........

RobBaxter

tunney wrote: »

<poopy hat>
No race transfer requests for races that don't allow transfers
</poopy hat>

My entry was sorted by the lads in Fingal - cheers. Now if only they could clear my tummy bug.........

alright so Garda leonard

hf4z6sqo7vjngi

Enjoyable race, well run and well marshalled. The road surface in parts was bad but hey it's Ireland!! That hill was a real lung buster and coming down the second time was fun. Did not witness any drafting going on, it goes to show changing from a 1 to a 2 min penalty acts as a deterent.

nomadic

Great race again. No drafting this time out and great marshalling. The hill was a beast for most people, even Laura Casey had to walk up it.

Interesting to compare bike splits from this one and the last one:rolleyes:.


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