Petrol to hit €1.50

91011

Just beware of increasing petrol prices. Refinery prices have hit 53c / litre and when you add in the taxes, duties & vat + distribution cost, prices will hit €1.50 in many places by month end.

Diesel will hit 1.40 and home heat will pass €800 for 1000 litres.

Cause is a combination of high demand from China, closure of oil lines in Alaska and flooding of coal mines in Australia (power generators will have to increase power creation from diesel plants whilst coal is in short supply in that part of world - queensland is one of largest producers of coal in the world)

squod

Not ****ing surprised, most people don't even look at the price of what they're buying anymore. It's 1.43 in some places FFS! How do people afford 1.43?????????

matt-dublin

squod wrote: »

Not ****ing surprised, most people don't even look at the price of what they're buying anymore. It's 1.43 in some places FFS! How do people afford 1.43?????????

i only own a car to look at now, spends most of its time in its parking space!

Owen

So to recap, Petrol up, Diesel up, home utilities up, UPC going up, VHI nearly 50% up, mortgages supposedly going up, wages down. All good.

Axe Rake

Move away from VHI, go Diesel, shop more wisely in lidl/aldi and stalk around for special offers. Eat less take-aways, quit smoking, stop drinking etc
Get free to air satellite TV..

Or you can just emigrate :pac:

biko

I'm sooo happy I can work from home.

Avns1s

PaintDoctor wrote: »

So to recap, Petrol up, Diesel up, home utilities up, UPC going up, VHI nearly 50% up, mortgages supposedly going up, wages down. All good.

Pretty much sums it up!!

Did a fill this morning at €143.9. Fecks sake but it was spooky watching the "This sale" numbers increasing so rapidly relative to the "Litres". :mad:

Zonda999

pumps.ie is telling me that a few places in Dublin have it for 146.9!

When it was ~130 in summer 2008 before the world financial ssystem went kablamo, i though we'd be waiting a nice while for it to surpass it again, whatever about increased taxes. Never would have though it would surpass it this quickly and at such a rate...

andyseadog

Axe Rake wrote: »

Or you can just emigrate :pac:

and be broke in the sun

Atomic Pineapple

Axe Rake wrote: »

Move away from VHI, go Diesel, shop more wisely in lidl/aldi and stalk around for special offers. Eat less take-aways, quit smoking, stop drinking etc
Get free to air satellite TV..

Or you can just emigrate :pac:

Wash your mouth out!

no1beemerfan

biko wrote: »

I'm sooo happy I can work from home.

I do almost 120 miles a day to and from work

It is getting crazy now to fill the car and thanks to the Universal Social Charge I'm down the price of a tank and a bit a month :mad:

SONIC2008

It's ok, I've a horse outside :cool:

Mc Love

There is a petrol station in Limerick that has been the most expensive for a while now and people still stop there - are they thick? Yes possibly....its 147.9 at the mo

billyboy01

I'd say it will hit the €2 mark in the next 18 months! As it was about 1.10c about 18 months ago! But this is a good thing as it will push automotive engineers and scientists to find a new form of fuel or design ultra efficient engines.

So until that happens its back to the Honda 50 or if a car is needed a 1.0 litre car!

fletch

Thank God I cycle to work and drive a diesel (fill of 40ltrs only every 3-4weeks)

DarkJager

Don't forget the majority of this cost is because of the ****ing greens and their carbon tax. Something like 80% of that price is government tax on it.

recyclebin

Don't blame the Greens for the tax. There was plenty of tax on fuel before the greens came into power. Your falling into the FF trap where everything bad is blamed on the junior partner in government. Why do you think Mary Harney has kept the Health job? It's because FF wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

We are just going to have to get used to high fuel prices until the alternatives become comparatively competitive.

Wind power wasn't a cheap way of producing power until the price of fossil fuels rose to a certain point. The same will probably happen with electric and hydrogen powered cars.

Atomic Pineapple

recyclebin wrote: »

Wind power wasn't a cheap way of producing power until the price of fossil fuels rose to a certain point. The same will probably happen with electric and hydrogen powered cars.

Even though we burn fossil fuels to make our electricity?

DarkJager

recyclebin wrote: »

Don't blame the Greens for the tax. There was plenty of tax on fuel before the greens came into power. Your falling into the FF trap where everything bad is blamed on the junior partner in government. Why do you think Mary Harney has kept the Health job? It's because FF wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

We are just going to have to get used to high fuel prices until the alternatives become comparatively competitive.

Wind power wasn't a cheap way of producing power until the price of fossil fuels rose to a certain point. The same will probably happen with electric and hydrogen powered cars.

I will blame the Greens partly for it, though I understand the tax levels were on it before they ever got put on a leash by FF. However, they are a party determined to hit people with taxes for anything they can, all under the guise of "saving the environment". They have been one of the most irritating and abysmal parties in Government, and it still makes me wonder how they ever got in.

bryaner

Axe Rake wrote: »

Move away from VHI, go Diesel, shop more wisely in lidl/aldi and stalk around for special offers. Eat less take-aways, quit smoking, stop drinking etc
Get free to air satellite TV..

Or you can just emigrate :pac:

Maybe you could emigrate from boards.;)

s_carnage

DarkJager wrote: »

Don't forget the majority of this cost is because of the ****ing greens and their carbon tax. Something like 80% of that price is government tax on it.

It was on Matt Cooper over a week ago that it is something like 67% that goes straight to the government so when it hits €1.50 over €1 is going straight to the government.

Stinicker

Sure can't we all just use Public transport..... oh wait! :eek:

The horrible situation about this was since about 2007 the general way was Oil went up and the Dollar devalued thus offsetting the true cost of oil by the stronger Euro, and when Oil went down in price the Dollar strengthened. However now that the Fianna Fail traitors have destroyed Ireland (and screwed the whole Euro also) we are in a situation where a strong Euro will not shield us from the high oil prices like it did the last few years as the Euro is so weak at the moment.

In 2008 Gas in the United States went from lows of $1.88/$2.20 a gallon to between $3.80/$4.60 a gallon, In Ireland at the same time a powerful Euro at €1=$1.55 saw prices rise from about €1/litre to around €1.25/litre and we did not feel the real brunt percentage wise. However now with a weak Euro, strengthening dollar and strong Demand $100 oil will cripple us and that old filling station in Ushers Quay that used to charge like €1.79/litre will look normal.

Weak Euro, Stronger Dollar, Strong Demand from developing countries all added up with a Traitor Fianna Fail government screwing the Motorist with tax will see alot/alot of people being forced of the roads due to rising cost of fuel in relation to falling incomes. There will be some cheap guzzlers out there in a few months I imagine.

MarkoC

Stinicker wrote: »

Sure can't we all just use Public transport..... oh wait! :eek:

Where ? In Sligo ? MUHAHHAHA

dr.fuzzenstein

Axe Rake wrote: »

Move away from VHI, go Diesel, shop more wisely in lidl/aldi and stalk around for special offers. Eat less take-aways, quit smoking, stop drinking etc
Get free to air satellite TV..

Or you can just emigrate :pac:

My problem is I've done all that.
I had everything cut right down to the bone and can't cut back anymore.
I actually will have to quit my job because the cost of driving there is becoming stupid, plus my wages will be down.
I'll quit the job, sell the car and sign on the dole, well done you fcuking **** in The Stupid Fcuking Wanker Party for Arseholes (FF), now you're paying for me to do nothing.
It's not worth working anymore.
Or I might get a second tank for green diesel so if they dip my main tank it will contain the real thing.
I already work on the side and don't pay tax, the TV licence won't get renewed, shopping will be spuds only, after that it's dealing drugs and hitting old ladies over the head with a brick for their purse.
Just ask yourself the question:
Who benefits if we all loose our houses?
Find that party and you will find FF in their pocket.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

dr.fuzzenstein wrote: »

My problem is I've done all that.
I had everything cut right down to the bone and can't cut back anymore.
I actually will have to quit my job because the cost of driving there is becoming stupid, plus my wages will be down.
I'll quit the job, sell the car and sign on the dole, well done you fcuking **** in The Stupid Fcuking Wanker Party for Arseholes (FF), now you're paying for me to do nothing.
It's not worth working anymore.
Or I might get a second tank for green diesel so if they dip my main tank it will contain the real thing.
I already work on the side and don't pay tax, the TV licence won't get renewed, shopping will be spuds only, after that it's dealing drugs and hitting old ladies over the head with a brick for their purse.

With an attitude like that we will all soon be out of this crisis :rolleyes:

MarkoC

Mckenzie Spicy Pebble wrote: »

With an attitude like that we will all soon be out of this crisis :rolleyes:

And whats wrong with his attitude ?
Nearly all the country thinks the same way ...

btkm8unsl0w5r4

And that sir is why were screwed.

dr.fuzzenstein

Mckenzie Spicy Pebble wrote: »

With an attitude like that we will all soon be out of this crisis :rolleyes:

My problem is that I've lost my previous job, money's down, but it just about was enough.
It was tough, but manageable.
However with wages going down, diesel going up and everything else going up (deflation my arse) it get more and more difficult and if this continues it will become impossible.
Many people I'm sure are in my situation and are right at the edge.
The latest "measures" by the rancid, stinking, traitor government will push thousands over the edge.
I consider this an attack on my property and standard of living, the same way I would regard a mugger.
I must now figure out how to avoid being raped by those robbin' bastids, keep as much money from them, just about hold on for another while before selling my house and taking the proceeds (not in negative equite thank God) to a proper country that is run by adults, such as Sweden, norway, Denmark, Germany, etc...
FG will come into power and they will simply replace FF's cronies with their own.
Ireland is a lovely country with many great people, but you have the worst government outside Chad and Angola.
And that will always keep this country down.
This will never EVER be a Switzerland or Sweden, etc...
This will always be a country where the cake is quietly divided up in the backroom by the big boys and then the crumbs will be thrown at the little people.
And it will never, ever change.

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Sooooo petrol is going to hit 1:50 euro eh.......

galwaytt

recyclebin wrote: »

Don't blame the Greens for the tax. There was plenty of tax on fuel before the greens came into power. Your falling into the FF trap where everything bad is blamed on the junior partner in government. Why do you think Mary Harney has kept the Health job? It's because FF wouldn't touch it with a barge pole.

We are just going to have to get used to high fuel prices until the alternatives become comparatively competitive.

Wind power wasn't a cheap way of producing power until the price of fossil fuels rose to a certain point. The same will probably happen with electric and hydrogen powered cars.

Well I do blame the Green Party. Irrespective of what the tax was before, and what other parties have done, they have singled out and hammered, the working public, and sacrificed our jobs and economy just to suit their ego. Their policies are failed, flawed, and unsustainable (sic). They are floating around as if we're Germany and have massive resources, both natural, financial and social, to carry the costs - and it is all about the costs - and we don't. We're a rural economy, based on the western-most tip of Europe, with naturally higher costs, and more sparse infrastructure. It can never be any other way. To think we can tax our way into becoming like the mainland European model is not only ludicrous, it's deranged.

And as for windpower - waiting to call it cheap, just by dint of other fuels being expensive exposes it for the fallacy that is. That justification is the sort of nonsense that has brought us Anglo Irish Bank, NAMA, Carbon Tax.

As for alternatives to fossil fuels - well, this has been done to death on here already, but if you're going to wait for them to appear before fixing our economy, then there'll be tumbleweed blowing down the street's........

DarkJager wrote: »

They have been one of the most irritating and abysmal parties in Government, and it still makes me wonder how they ever got in.

How ? Easy - complacency on our (the voting public's..) part.

Let's not make the same mistake again - make sure not only are they out, but like so many other's - out of business. Permanently.

MarkoC

Mckenzie Spicy Pebble wrote: »

And that sir is why were screwed.

Yeah thats the poor people attitude

My dear god ... By your opinion poor people must have no emotions, feelings and opinions ...

Sry but i disagree with you here.

galwaytt

...sorry, forgot to post the real reason for posting.......just back from the UK today, and petrol over there is £1.32/litre, which is €1.60/litre.

€1.50 ?

You'll be lucky if it's that cheap !

L1011

Time to register for BIK and start using my company car I think...

patwicklow

Now i can understand why wicklow county council are forking out 20million
to build a footpath from the meetings of the waters to woodenbridge, looks like we,l all be walking them very soon,

btkm8unsl0w5r4

Mckenzie Spicy Pebble wrote: »

Sooooo petrol is going to hit 1:50 euro eh.......

1:50 you say that very high, still less than the UK though thats a bonus. But car are cheaper there so it levels out. Still people who drive for a living are going to be hit hard.

Stheno

Zonda999 wrote: »

pumps.ie is telling me that a few places in Dublin have it for 146.9!

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All the petrol stations where I live have it at that price! They've always tended to be very high price wise though.

roguey

Still cheaper than a bottle of coke...:p

Seth Brundle

Mckenzie Spicy Pebble wrote: »

1:50 you say that very high, still less than the UK though thats a bonus. But car are cheaper there so it levels out. Still people who drive for a living are going to be hit hard.

We pay huge amounts of VRT and then huge amounts again on motor tax.
We pay higher VAT on everything compared to the UK.
We also have a non-life insurance levy of 3%.
We have a crap road network.
We have inadequate knowledge on how to use the roads.
It levels out?

lau1247

should i consider myself lucky that it is still 139.9 when i went to the pumps earlier?

the outlook is not looking good and will be raining ****e for a long while

coolbeans

You can blame the Greens all you want but the fundamentals remains unchallenged. Demand for oil is rising while supply remains stagnant. When you consider that prices are nearing $100 per barrel amidst the most depressed worldwide economy since World War II you gotta worry for the near future. Peak oil is here and has been for some time. Get used to it.

MarkoC

Liter of petrol is roughly 60 cents, rest of the price are all taxes

Voodoomelon

My fill 2 weeks ago was €116.90, not far off €120.00 now tomorrow i'm guessing.

I've started cutting down on me driving now, running to the gym, doing my shopping in the same place, minimising the spins etc.

The General.

MarkoC wrote: »

Liter of petrol is roughly 60 cents, rest of the price are all taxes

Yeah, we know that.

Stinicker

Voodoomelon wrote: »

My fill 2 weeks ago was €116.90, not far off €120.00 now tomorrow i'm guessing.

I've started cutting down on me driving now, running to the gym, doing my shopping in the same place, minimising the spins etc.

What you driving Voodoo and what size tank has it?

physioman

Vegetable oil is 69c a litre in supervalu. Definitely considering going back full time on it

patwicklow

physioman wrote: »

Vegetable oil is 69c a litre in supervalu. Definitely considering going back full time on it

and can a diesel engine run on that?

catbear

The colder than average weather for northern europe may have had an adverse influence on price. Demand was fierce during the snow period and inventories were run down fast so topping up cost more as it bid up oil price from other regions.

MarkoC

physioman wrote: »

and can a diesel engine run on that?

Mix it 50:50 and happy days

Another thing here is how the customs will look at it ...

racer1

Thank f... i just bought a diesel. i read last week on BBC website that oil prices are biggest danger to the world economic recovery. Well i think our Gov need to wake up as we are an island nation. Our dependency on fossil fuels is to great and raising taxes on fuel in every budget will only kill any hope of us getting out of this mess we are in. Higher fuel costs dont only hit the car user. It impacts on the prices on everything in shops too. Higher retail prices and less take home pay = less money for consumers to spend and no recovery.

91011

well we can smile looking to the UK and some other european countries - we're still about 8th cheapest!!!:eek:

UK prices are set to hit £1.36 (€1.65) for petrol and an absolute whopping £1.40 (€1.70) for diesel! (you should see the queues of yellow plate diesels in Dundalk & Donegal)

US prices are set to go to £3.50 for a US gallon (3.8litres) in some states.

the good news is all of these price rises will see demand taper off and prices should start fallling back once all the weather and oil line problems correct themselves.

in the meantime - go easy on the pedal

MarkoC

91011 wrote: »

well we can smile looking to the UK and some other european countries - we're still about 8th cheapest!!!:eek:

UK prices are set to hit £1.36 (€1.65) for petrol and an absolute whopping £1.40 (€1.70) for diesel! (you should see the queues of yellow plate diesels in Dundalk & Donegal)

US prices are set to go to £3.50 for a US gallon (3.8litres) in some states.

the good news is all of these price rises will see demand taper off and prices should start fallling back once all the weather and oil line problems correct themselves.

in the meantime - go easy on the pedal

I think you missing the point here, most countries have no roadtax either which makes Irelands petrol the dearest in EU !