Anyone studying/have studied Neuromuscular Physical Therapy with NTC?

Daragh86

I was considering studying the above with NTC and just hoping to get a bit of feedback about the course, qualification, job prospects, etc.

I have been previously involved with a lot of sports teams in different circumstances so would have a lot of contacts in sport, hopefully the above course would be enough to get involved in Physical Therapy with sports teams?

cdor25

did you ever go through with this course. I am considering starting it myself in the next month and would like as much feedback as possible.

calfmuscle

I have two good friends who have completed this course and they both found it awful. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. One is now studying physio in UCD and the other is in a totally other profession.

g'em

calfmuscle wrote: »

I have two good friends who have completed this course and they both found it awful. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. One is now studying physio in UCD and the other is in a totally other profession.

In what sense did they find it awful? The content? Tutors? Facilities? Was it pitched to high? Too low? Was there real world applIcability? there's lots if reasons why they might not have liked it, qualifying it would be a start

calfmuscle

Sorry, they both came out of it feeling like they couldn't treat patients independently. They both said anyone could pass the course, there was very little need to actually attend to get your certificate. The girl who is now doing physio said she was appalled at how little she actually learnt from the course in comparison to physio, for example she didn't know the most basic of shoulder assessment testing.

Mick0

calfmuscle wrote: »

Sorry, they both came out of it feeling like they couldn't treat patients independently. They both said anyone could pass the course, there was very little need to actually attend to get your certificate. The girl who is now doing physio said she was appalled at how little she actually learnt from the course in comparison to physio, for example she didn't know the most basic of shoulder assessment testing.

I agree with what being said here, having done the course myself. They talk a good talk but a lot of what they say lacks credibility. I got all As throughout but was still left with a feeling that I'd been had. They of course try to sell you other courses but my advice is give these guys a wide berth. They're good sales men but that's all!

sug.pl

hi, sorry to pull out this topic again, but has anyone else completed this course?
Went to the NTC for open day and still can't make up my mind about this course.. guy seem to throw at me a lot of details about himself and his achievements info(books, magazines w his name, etc.) - but his personal, whether i would like to hear more about his students achievements and work..
Mick0 - Have you tried to look for a job after the course? Do they give you structured professional basics along with what i would call "newest/arguable clinical data"?
for me the plan is being able to start working as physical therapist, as supposed to working as massage therapist who i'm now, even with variety of techniques. A bit worried that they are trying to sell me a technique for 3 grand...rather than career step up.
If anybody else done the course - any feedback much appreciated
or if anybody works as physical therapist - what's your take on NTC?
g'em, cdor25 - did you go for the course?

thehamo

other options would be to do a lot of cpd courses/certifications as a massage therapist and buid up your knowledge that way. ive heard bad things from a lot of people about the ntc course, that they left not really having a good knowledge of treating injury etc.

sug.pl

Thanx Thehamo, think i better stay away from them, too many people expressing concerns.
unfortunately more cpd courses would not work for me - already have a bunch, yet look the same in employers eyes. It's not the NMT, but "physical therapy"bit in their cert - in 1 year!- made them so attractive to me...
guess have to go for 3year IPTAS course

Checked your web page - looks very well:)

thehamo

IPTAS course is good, but ive heard its quite tough. Two different people ive talked to have said there was a high failure rate and its quite intense. Upwards of 17/18000euro for a title of "Physical Therapist".

By the by, any manual body worker can call them selves a Physical Therapist, its not a protected title like chartered physio.

calfmuscle

You should hold off on signing up to a course unless it's physiotherapy for a bit longer. The chartered society of physiotherapists is currently trying to protect both physiotherapist and physical therapist for the sole use of physiotherapist. This would mean you would need a BSc in physio to call yourself a physical therapist. This is currently under review by the minister for health and a decision should be made in the next month or so.

thehamo

calfmuscle wrote: »

You should hold off on signing up to a course unless it's physiotherapy for a bit longer. The chartered society of physiotherapists is currently trying to protect both physiotherapist and physical therapist for the sole use of physiotherapist. This would mean you would need a BSc in physio to call yourself a physical therapist. This is currently under review by the minister for health and a decision should be made in the next month or so.

Im sure IPTAs would have something to.say about that

calfmuscle

thehamo wrote: »

Im sure IPTAs would have something to.say about that

The debate has been going on for a long time and now that CORU registration is beginning a decision needs to be made.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/physiotherapists-say-confusion-with-physical-therapist-misleads-public-1.1992967

sug.pl

Thanx for the warning, I'm aware this discussion is on, but i think it was on for last ten years at least.. not sure to wait on the basis of fear is a good thing
Also think that it's unlikely they would cut off all physical therapists out of practise - they serve the public demand, to provide more physios(places for them) going to cost government out of budget.. and the longer they withhold decision the more actively working physical therapists going to be in place(and the better they will be qualified) fighting back for the name. Physio education and methods on the other side are in need of an update - again rather than deal with transformation and improvement existing education program it is easier for the minister let the private sector() to take care of them selves(private colleges preparing private practitioners and competition to sort out the standards) ...
I could be wrong thou..

dreamcatch

Currently doing this course now if anyone has any questions I'm happy to answer

murfler

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/96558536#Comment_96558536

Hi did you complete course? I'm considering starting the course in January and would really appreciate any feedback from someone who has completed it. Is it as bad as other posters have stated? Are you working in the area? Thanks

Cill94

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182570#Comment_118182570

Neuromuscular therapy primarily claims to work by treating trigger points, which is essentially bro science.

Would recommend reading this article. It in particular mentions a well-known study that showed that even supposed 'experts' in trigger points weren't able to locate them on subjects when they were blinded to them. I.e. NMT, like all manual therapy, does not actually require any skill or special training, because it doesn't work in the way it claims to.

https://www.thesports.physio/soft-tissue-sore-spots/