Clocked car? The evidence is pretty overwhelming....

Motorcheck

I'd be interested in what people think about this report that was run yesterday. The car in question is advertised at http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1790944.

A customer of ours tells us that the seller swears mileage is genuine but our report has some pretty compelling evidence against it. See it here http://www.motorcheck.ie/report/05D90750/XEHJRW

Atlantic Dawn

It's a UK car with no mention of service history in the advert, how can they stand over the mileage if they have no evidense to back it up.

Top Dog

137,711 Mls back in July of 2008 :eek:

johnos1984

If the owner didn't import it I'd say he very much believes it is genuine mileage.

Sickening how this happens

EDIT: you may want to copy the link into the scams thread

dnme

Are you gonna send this report to the seller? cops? website? simi?

bladebrew

did poor paul selling the car think he saved a fortune buying a car in the uk!

that is fairly high mileage for a 5 year old car, i assume its a reps car that has been clocked, did the seller on donedeal only import the car at the start of december

bmw535d

id say it has at least double the milage its advertised at.

60k knocked off it really at least, 4 years driving. If he's that adamant its not clocked he doesnt like the idea he's been shafted himself, is realising it will be very hard to shift or if clocked it himself.

johnos1984

According to the Motorcheck report it's priced about right, €7440 is the valuation for a poor car

andyseadog

that is shocking, but i suppose it goes to prove how paying a few extra euro for a history check can make it all worth it!

x in the city

andyseadog wrote: »

that is shocking, but i suppose it goes to prove how paying a few extra euro for a history check can make it all worth it!

or it goes to prove hondas go on for as long as the world will end....

upon first looking at that ad, i could see no way did that do 80k miles, i was thinking 150k at least.

common sense is needed also

colm_mcm

He's got 3 cars for sale on donedeal in the last 4 days, I'd be checking them all

andyseadog

at a very quick google of the sellers phone number, hes also uploaded these 2 adverts in the last 2 days, id be curious to know if these cars had a history, but dont have 70 quid to pay for the curiosity.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1783869

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1787784

edit : beaten to it by colm

johnos1984

andyseadog wrote: »

at a very quick google of the sellers phone number, hes also uploaded these 2 adverts in the last 2 days, id be curious to know if these cars had a history, but dont have 70 quid to pay for the curiosity.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1783869

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1787784

edit : beaten to it by colm

The tyres on that merc look flat also its funny how the cars are pictured outside all different houses

bladebrew

andyseadog wrote: »

at a very quick google of the sellers phone number, hes also uploaded these 2 adverts in the last 2 days, id be curious to know if these cars had a history, but dont have 70 quid to pay for the curiosity.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1783869

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1787784

edit : beaten to it by colm

does that mercedes have 2 flat tyres

x in the city

x in the city wrote: »

or it goes to prove hondas go on for as long as the world will end....

upon first looking at that ad, i could see no way did that do 80k miles, i was thinking 150k at least.

common sense is needed also

aside from the car being in a thread that alerted you to it being clocked what made you think there was 150k at least on it ?

johnos1984

RoverJames wrote: »

aside from the car being in a thread that alerted you to it being clocked what made you think there was 150k at least on it ?

I think he used the magnifying glass from CSI to read the service history which the seller had just dumped :pac:

andyseadog

RoverJames wrote: »

aside from the car being in a thread that alerted you to it being clocked what made you think there was 150k at least on it ?

one of the wheels is missing a center cap

Jimbob 83

The cupholder was showing excessive wear

shannon_tek

johnos1984 wrote: »

.... also its funny how the cars are pictured outside all different houses

But there not. check again. Edit: two different ads. but different places your right there . its common. even i do it when taken photo of my cars.

jimmycrackcorm

OPs post reported for being a blatant shill for motorcheck services.

Seth Brundle

Motorcheck wrote: »

I'd be interested in what people think about this report that was run yesterday. The car in question is advertised at http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1790944.

A customer of ours tells us that the seller swears mileage is genuine but our report has some pretty compelling evidence against it. See it here http://www.motorcheck.ie/report/05D90750/XEHJRW

Do you really need us to explain the service that you sell to your customers or as jimmy says, are you just advertising?

Ozziej

kbannon wrote: »

Do you really need us to explain the service that you sell to your customers or as jimmy says, are you just advertising?

Its one step removed from spam but heh its public service innit

Esel

shannon_tek wrote: »

But there not. check again. Edit: two different ads. but different places your right there . its common. even i do it when taken photo of my cars.

Does this help achieve sales?

Absurdum

from the CLK ad

dodgy dealer wrote:

selling as I need saloon car!

he's also selling a saloon and an estate

I tried to ring him to tell him but he won't answer

shannon_tek

esel wrote: »

Does this help achieve sales?

nope but you may have got a nicer photo after you have the add up. sometimes it can help getting ppl to look at the add

-Corkie-

kbannon wrote: »

Do you really need us to explain the service that you sell to your customers or as jimmy says, are you just advertising?

His username is registered as Motorcheck. I cant see what your problem is? He has being great here giving people advice and free reports to Boards users.

Big Nasty

-Corkie- wrote: »

His username is registered as Motorcheck. I cant see what your problem is? He has being great here giving people advice and free reports to Boards users.

Have to agree to be fair!

Gary ITR

-Corkie- wrote: »

His username is registered as Motorcheck. I cant see what your problem is? He has being great here giving people advice and free reports to Boards users.

MCMLXXV wrote: »

Have to agree to be fair!

Lads leave the moderating to the mods please

johnos1984

Onkle wrote: »

Lads leave the moderating to the mods please

In fairness he is being treated badly and the mods are at the head of the pack

-Corkie-

Onkle wrote: »

Lads leave the moderating to the mods please

TBH lad he didnt seem to be in moderating mode.

If he typed it like this I would have said nothing.:)

freighter

johnos1984 wrote: »

In fairness he is being treated badly and the mods are at the head of the pack

You are so right. The last time that oul Wibbs chased him of the site. Cant ye give the man a break.

I actually contacted admin about that Bannon fellow. Why dont he like people getting motoring advice on a motoring forum. He obviously has some secret problem or has an intrest in some other car checking site..

JMSE

I found the thread very interesting and have never seen such a report although I have heard in many conversations of these checks. So in a public interest sort of way, mine has been served.

glic71rods46t0

This is one of the best threads on Motoring forum in ages. A real public service done by highlighting this issue. I cant understand why anyone would take issue with the OP???????????
OP - can you provide reports on the other cars the seller has up for sale please?

JJJJNR

Anyone know what these guys do?

crime_prevention@garda.ie

johnos1984

JJJJNR wrote: »

Anyone know what these guys do?

crime_prevention@garda.ie

Nothing unless your willing to go to the station and make a formal complaint and follow it up with a day in court

No issue with the Gardaí who generally do a good job but unless you are willing to follow through is little the can/will do

x in the city

RoverJames wrote: »

aside from the car being in a thread that alerted you to it being clocked what made you think there was 150k at least on it ?

a high class honda accord diesel, was probably on stellar miles...

motorway or the like, anyone who thought that was on 80k was a muppet!

as i said, common sense goes a long way.

-Corkie-

x in the city wrote: »

a high class honda accord diesel, was probably on stellar miles...

motorway or the like, anyone who thought that was on 80k was a muppet!

as i said, common sense goes a long way.

Thats OK for me or you to say but it may appear ligit for a normal Joe Soap who knows f all about cars.

Seth Brundle

-Corkie- wrote: »

His username is registered as Motorcheck. I cant see what your problem is? He has being great here giving people advice and free reports to Boards users.

Who said that I have a problem?
However, the OP was requested to contact the admins in the past regarding his use of the site to promote his business. I can safely assume that the admins have not made an agreement with them to post here given that their username has not turned red and bold!
My role along with the mods is to ensure that all boards members follow the rules laid down. All members must follow them and whilst we generally turn the occasional blind eye to things this does not give the right to continuous free advertising.

However, my post last night was not made with a strict moderating hat on as I tend to leave the moderating here to the mods.
I was seriously wondering though why someone who offers a service that looks up a car's history for items such as mileage should find the need to ask our opinion on something which is fairly obvious.
It just so happens that their post was reported moments before I posted. I could have deleted the thread or taken various other forms of action but I didn't. I merely asked a question.

As for freighter's comment that I may have another vested interest, well, I don't and most people on here who have known me over the last seven years, know that!

Now lets leave it there.

unkel

colm_mcm wrote: »

He's got 3 cars for sale on donedeal in the last 4 days

It's Madden. He's back :eek:

-Corkie-

He is only trying to help people here. Now if he came on last night and posted it as his first post I would agree but he has done several favours here for members. I watch this forum everyday and I have seen him give plenty of good advice. I definitley wouldnt call it shilling.

However you are the bosses so you make the decisions to delete the thread or ban him which ever.:)

Seth Brundle

unkel wrote: »

It's Madden. He's back

Are you serious?

Shane732

kbannon wrote: »

]
It just so happens that their post was reported moments before I posted. I could have deleted the thread or taken various other forms of action but I didn't. I merely asked a question.

Please forgive the ignorance but why could you have deleted the thread?

There's numerous posters in this forum who could be very interested in something along the lines of that Accord.

I don't understand what he's done wrong? He hasn't come in offering a two for one deal or anything like that. He's simply pointing out a clocked car.

Seth Brundle

Shane732 wrote: »

Please forgive the ignorance but why could you have deleted the thread?

There's numerous posters in this forum who could be very interested in something along the lines of that Accord.

I don't understand what he's done wrong? He hasn't come in offering a two for one deal or anything like that. He's simply pointing out a clocked car.

I've already explained myself so to quote myself...

kbannon wrote: »

Now lets leave it there.

johnos1984

Corkie has he been discussed before here?

Anyone have a link?

glic71rods46t0

kbannon wrote: »

I was seriously wondering though why someone who offers a service that looks up a car's history for items such as mileage should find the need to ask our opinion on something which is fairly obvious.

To be fair the obvious part is that the report seems to suggest that the car is being advertised with false mileage. The OP's post seeks opinions on this. My reading of this is that he is provoking debate on the issue in general as well as this specific car - there is nothing "obvious" about opinions!
I think that the OP has raised an issue of huge public importance especially for the general public who might not be as aware of how "obvious" this looks for industry insiders!

-Corkie-

johnos1984 wrote: »

Corkie has he been discussed before here?

Anyone have a link?

I dont know but Unkel must!:)

johnos1984

-Corkie- wrote: »

I dont know but Unkel must!:)

Quoted the wrong person

x in the city

x in the city wrote: »

a high class honda accord diesel, was probably on stellar miles...

motorway or the like, anyone who thought that was on 80k was a muppet!

as i said, common sense goes a long way.

Are you serious ? Your only reason for reckoning it was clocked was because it was a high class diesel Accord You reckon that's common sense ? Jesus, and anyone who reckons a 2005 diesel Accord with a claimed 80K on it is genuine is a muppet ?

And in the same sentence you say "probably".

Profound.

-Corkie-

RoverJames wrote: »

And in the same sentence you say "probably".

Profound.

If Carlsberg clocked cars...;)

johnos1984

Shane732 wrote: »

I don't understand what he's done wrong?

Nothing, but people don't like to be told their wrong

And from looking at the thread it appears Motorcheck has warned us all of a dodgy car which is often times recommended on here

It also highlights that a seller with a poor record is back selling cars again.

Now if you or I posted the car and the seller and said they were bad the thread would be locked for slander or some other reason as we would have no evidence

And Kbannan you were asked a question on something you posted as a normal contributor and not a mod as it wasn't highlighted hence I see no problem with people questioning you on it and your reasoning for posting it

Also with all the 'thanks' in support of Motorcheck it would appear few have any issue with him or the free service he provides at times for the general public on here.