Student Union Elections 2011

talleyrand

The College Tribune got all this started on twitter/FB so why not here.
Who is running for what . . .

Not hiding behind a Nickname K Woods

Is Talleyrand so famous that he is worthy of having a fake boards.ie account made claiming to be him? And... *poof*... I just lost all faith in the world.

Riamfada

oh so real tallyrand is having a go at fake tallyrand.

delta_bravo

Talleyrand would never use a smiley

Killer Pigeon

Not hiding behind a Nickname K Woods

Sorry Grimes, I'm not Talleyrand. Allow your blood pressure to calm down, you haven't cracked the identity.

Riamfada

Not hiding behind a Nickname K Woods wrote: »

Sorry Grimes, I'm not Talleyrand. Allow your blood pressure to calm down, you haven't cracked the identity.

Ah sure its all in good fun.

GobBass

I think I'm gonna get people to write my name,draw a box and tick inside it. You know,for the lolz. The advertising pays for itself. I could be a shadowy SU president that secretly gets things done as opposed to the other way around.:D

Sierra Oscar

Wont all the political party hacks be busy campaigning for the GE? Goody!

Grassroots_FF

I have an idea of some of the candidates. Can't give their names yet but one of them should blow everyone out of the water! Great speaker, very presentable and well connected with certain socs.

Killer Pigeon

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

I have an idea of some of the candidates. Can't give their names yet but one of them should blow everyone out of the water! Great speaker, very presentable and well connected with certain socs.

Hmm, I'm really struggling to figure out who Grassroots FF holds in such high esteem.

Gary, stop flattering yourself and get off boards.ie. You might have a gift for oratory and debating and your dashing 'presentable' looks might intrigue many young virgins but your policying skills are in disarray and totally redundant. This time the voters will not be fooled by smoke and mirrors.

Grassroots_FF

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Hmm, I'm really struggling to figure out who Grassroots FF holds in such high esteem.

Gary, stop flattering yourself and get off boards.ie. You might have a gift for oratory and debating and your dashing 'presentable' looks might intrigue many young virgins but your policying skills are in disarray and totally redundant. This time the voters will not be fooled by smoke and mirrors.

I'm not Gary. And I'm talking about the UCD SU elections not the USI ones.

Killer Pigeon

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

I'm not Gary. And I'm talking about the UCD SU elections not the USI ones.

I think it's relatively clear that you were speaking about the UCDSU elections, I mean this thread is dedicated to them, is it not?

Also, if you aren't Gary, I would ask you to relay that message onto him.

Furthermore, are you even in UCD Grassroots FF?

Grassroots_FF

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

I think it's relatively clear that you were speaking about the UCDSU elections, I mean this thread is dedicated to them, is it not?

Also, if you aren't Gary, I would ask you to relay that message onto him.

Furthermore, are you even in UCD Grassroots FF?

Not anymore but I still go to some of the Cumann events and hot whiskey nights if I'm in Dub

Killer Pigeon

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Not anymore but I still go to some of the Cumann events and hot whiskey nights if I'm in Dub

Don't know what 'Cumann' you speak of (:rolleyes:) but I can assure you a Mojito Night would beat a Hot Whiskey night any time. :P

Riamfada

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Not anymore but I still go to some of the Cumann events and hot whiskey nights if I'm in Dub

I think I know who you are! But if you are who I think you are then I am surprised at some of the stuff you have been posting over the past few days. Im happy to be learning more about you, you are a graduate of UCD so therefore not stupid enough to tow the party line simply because you have only been in UCD a few months, you actually believe what you post and there are only a few died hard DeValera Youth that came out of UCD once the D2 tickets dried up or else you are Pierce Farrell taking the piss (quite well I might add).

The Cumann is the Kevin Barry Cumann society more commonly referred to as the hated KBC which is the youth division of the Fianna Fail party in UCD. It usually consists of the sons and daughters of TD's and their friends, people looking to climb the social ladder by getting in with the party, blondes girlsand idiots. They kind of are the personification of everything that is wrong with UCD. The also rely on free Whiskey to generate interest among required grassroots cannon fodder for the society. If I remember correctly, Ogra Fianna Gael had much more attractive members.

Why do the KBC feel the need to drag party politics into a left wing organisation. The UCD union is a joke, it is not a union in terms of a union. People really don't care about it and laugh at you when your running around with black and white posters of ugly unskilled idiots. If the university really cared about student representation, Martin Butler would get off his boney old behind and reform the union to coincide with the launch of the nations biggest recession folly, the UCD Student Center part Deux. Unfortunately due to many reasons none of this will happen and the same horrible cycle will go on and on and on .......

All ex KBC members who became sabbats in recent years had serious questions hanging over their heads. Some stuff went around about Gary that cant be posted for legal reasons, that money was only resting in my account O'Sullivan & plenty more....

Riamfada

A good day for me was when an ex sabbat came to me and said that everything I have every claimed the union to be was true. Now for an elected sabbat to say that, someone knee deep in the political crap ... well sir that makes me smile.

GobBass

Not to get away from the important topic that is the election but I'm pretty sure the biggest recession folly was the Conference Centre. Too little too late in a time where it was needed. Would have made sense ten years ago.

I'm beginning to think that over the next few months,there will be several threads of this nature shamelessly promoting either people who are running or if we are (un)lucky enough, the candidates themselves. All I know is at the end of this year when I get my degree (by the grace of God and the respective departments of UCD that I'm affiliated,strictly academic and no social clubs jargon there), I'll be unemployed.

In the words of a former Taoiseach at a recent horse run.."Might run for president, ah sure it looks great craic sure".

Killer Pigeon

Grimes wrote: »

The Cumann is the Kevin Barry Cumann society more commonly referred to as the hated KBC which is the youth division of the Fianna Fail party in UCD. It usually consists of the sons and daughters of TD's and their friends, people looking to climb the social ladder by getting in with the party, blondes girlsand idiots. They kind of are the personification of everything that is wrong with UCD. The also rely on free Whiskey to generate interest among required grassroots cannon fodder for the society. If I remember correctly, Ogra Fianna Gael had much more attractive members.

This year not only were they relying on free Whiskey but also free Michael Collins DVDs. Pathetic desperation.

Personally I see KBC as the true embodiment of an American Rich-Daddy Frat Society. Ógra FF is bit like the secretive 'Skull and Bones' society which have branches in some American universities.

Riamfada

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

This year not only were they relying on free Whiskey but also free Michael Collins DVDs.

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't it kind of accepted that DeV, the father of the Fianna Fail party, ordered the assasination of Collins because as a Fianna Failer dev refused to accept the democratic decision of the Dail on some sort of treaty thingy.

Seems like the wrong sort of material to be handing out at a Fianna Fail rally or are they just banking on the fact that most of their UCD members dont know much about the party other than the fact that Daddy votes for them and Collins was a founding member.

Killer Pigeon

Grimes wrote: »

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't it kind of accepted that DeV, the father of the Fianna Fail party, ordered the assasination of Collins because as a Fianna Failer dev refused to accept the democratic decision of the Dail on some sort of treaty thingy.

Seems like the wrong sort of material to be handing out at a Fianna Fail rally or are they just banking on the fact that most of their UCD members dont know much about the party other than the fact that Daddy votes for them and Collins was a founding member.

Well nobody knows if DeV really ordered the assassination of Collins but that's the way it's portrayed in the film anyway. But yes it's quite ironic. Shows the abundance of air-brains within the society if you ask me.

Grassroots_FF

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

This year not only were they relying on free Whiskey but also free Michael Collins DVDs. Pathetic desperation.

Personally I see KBC as the true embodiment of an American Rich-Daddy Frat Society. Ógra FF is bit like the secretive 'Skull and Bones' society which have branches in some American universities.

First I've heard of them using Michael Collins dvds. I'd be very dissappointed if that's now acceptable in KBC. When I was there we preferred to talk up the likes of Lemass as a great moderniser of Ireland. I understand that the economics of Dev don't have much appeal to the youth today but the way he was portrayed in that Hollywood guff "Michael Collins" was very offensive. Dev afterall was a master statesman and unlike Collins always stood by the idea of a 32 county republic.

GobBass

I love how talk of something as innocent (and at this point futile) as a student election that the notion of the Treaty takes over.

Sierra Oscar

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

First I've heard of them using Michael Collins dvds. I'd be very dissappointed if that's now acceptable in KBC.

First I have ever heard of it too to be fair . . .

The film Michael Collins has been widely rubbished by many academics, including our own Diarmaid Ferriter . . . good film but not historically accurate.

JBoy!

talleyrand wrote: »

The College Tribune got all this started on twitter/FB so why not here.
Who is running for what . . .

Where can ya find the College Tribune Facebook? I want to contact them!

JBoy!

Also Pat de Brun and Scott Ahern are going for President I heard!

Killer Pigeon

JBoy! wrote: »

Scott Ahern

:rolleyes:

Would he, like Gary, not have it in his interests to finish his degree.

JBoy!

the money is too good and the work is pretty easy

Sierra Oscar

There should be a limit set on how many consecutive terms you can hold as a union sabbatical. Would put the brakes under the likes of Scott Ahern fairly lively.

keepkeyyellow

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

There should be a limit set on how many consecutive terms you can hold as a union sabbatical. Would put the brakes under the likes of Scott Ahern fairly lively.

Leave Scotty alone. He's a dote.

Grassroots_FF

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

There should be a limit set on how many consecutive terms you can hold as a union sabbatical. Would put the brakes under the likes of Scott Ahern fairly lively.

Student Union officiers should be allowed stay on as long as the students want them to

Sierra Oscar

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Student Union officiers should be allowed stay on as long as the students want them to

Are you a current student of UCD?

Killer Pigeon

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Student Union officiers should be allowed stay on as long as the students want them to

Oh how Venezuelan of you.

Grassroots_FF

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Oh how Venezuelan of you.

Hardly. Why should there be term limits? If someone isn't doing a good job then vote them out. Simple. It's undemocratic not to allow people to run.

kev9100

I'm a first year and I signed up for the KBC at the start of they year purely because I wasn't aware they were a FF organisation and they promised me and my friends a cheap trip to Amsterdam. The amount of utter crap they send me in e-mails is horrendous. As an aside, does anyone know if there is a Labour group in UCD?

unknown13

kev9100 wrote: »

I'm a first year and I signed up for the KBC at the start of they year purely because I wasn't aware they were a FF organisation and they promised me and my friends a cheap trip to Amsterdam. The amount of utter crap they send me in e-mails is horrendous. As an aside, does anyone know if there is a Labour group in UCD?

Think so, Refreshers week is coming up soon so you can sign up then.

Killer Pigeon

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Hardly. Why should there be term limits? If someone isn't doing a good job then vote them out. Simple. It's undemocratic not to allow people to run.

Of course there should be a limit, could you honestly imagine them running for sabbatical positions for years on end until eventually they're in their late 20's enjoying a nice salary and a soft job while being totally out of touch with the student population?

I say NO!

A majority of people only spend 3-4 years doing their degree and the student population is always being refreshed year after year. Those students have just as much of a right to run for sabbatical position as the people who've being hanging around the grand chambers of Student Union for years on end. However, the newer students normally don't have as much sway on the electorate simply because the smug old-swingers have gobbled up a large amount of support over the years. It's simple unfair.

I think students should only be allowed to have a maximum of two terms on ANY vice-presidency or presidency position to give other newer student a chance.

Killer Pigeon

kev9100 wrote: »

I'm a first year and I signed up for the KBC at the start of they year purely because I wasn't aware they were a FF organisation and they promised me and my friends a cheap trip to Amsterdam. The amount of utter crap they send me in e-mails is horrendous. As an aside, does anyone know if there is a Labour group in UCD?

Yes yes yes, there is! It's called the Charlie Donnelly Society, we're the UCD Labour Youth branch. There's some interesting events organised from January onwards and we're always looking for new faces. Come join us on refreshers week! Unlike most political parties in UCD, we actually care about pressing issues not the general 'how's you're father' politics you'd expect in KBC or dare I say the Blueshirts.

Grassroots_FF

kev9100 wrote: »

I'm a first year and I signed up for the KBC at the start of they year purely because I wasn't aware they were a FF organisation and they promised me and my friends a cheap trip to Amsterdam. The amount of utter crap they send me in e-mails is horrendous. As an aside, does anyone know if there is a Labour group in UCD?

You should read the Fine Gael manifesto before joining Labour. Afterall a vote for Labour is a vote for Enda Kenny to be taoiseach.

kev9100

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Yes yes yes, there is! It's called the Charlie Donnelly Society, we're the UCD Labour Youth branch. There's some interesting events organised from January onwards and we're always looking for new faces. Come join us on refreshers week! Unlike most political parties in UCD, we actually care about pressing issues not the general 'how's you're father' politics you'd expect in KBC or dare I say the Blueshirts.

Great. I might head to a few of those when the new term starts.

Killer Pigeon

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

You should read the Fine Gael manifesto before joining Labour. Afterall a vote for Labour is a vote for Enda Kenny to be taoiseach.

That's getting old.

Enda for Tánaiste!

Keep in mind that Labour are stronger in opposition of the reintroduction of fees than the Blueshirts.

kev9100

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

You should read the Fine Gael manifesto before joining Labour. Afterall a vote for Labour is a vote for Enda Kenny to be taoiseach.

Not to be rude, thats pure BS. A vote for labour is a vote for labour. Attack Labour by all means, but don't try and pull that trick.

Grassroots_FF

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

That's getting old.

Enda for Tánaiste!

Keep in mind that Labour are stronger in opposition of the reintroduction of fees than the Blueshirts.

Labour will be the junior partner in the next government led by Fine Gael and you know it. Labour will follow the exact same policies FF and FG advocate as they always have when in government. They are a joke of a party. Completely gutless.

Killer Pigeon

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Labour will be the junior partner in the next government led by Fine Gael and you know it. Labour will follow the exact same policies FF and FG advocate as they always have when in government. They are a joke of a party. Completely gutless.

ABSOLUTE BULLSHITE!

If it weren't for the labour party being in government in the 90's legalisation of homosexuality would have come far later and free fees would have never been introduced. Your analysis of Labour 'following the same policies' as the other major parties is nonsense. Yes, I can admit that some of their policies became somewhat diluted (naturally when a liberal party is thrown in with a conservative party), but still we get the message across and don't lie to the voters like FF and FG have been so famous for doing. Remember that labour's participation in those coalitions were, at their heart, conditional.

All you're posts here on boards.ie so far Grassroot_FF have been devoid of principle and fact.

Grassroots_FF

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

ABSOLUTE BULLSHITE!

If it weren't for the labour party being in government in the 90's legalisation of homosexuality would have come far later and free fees would have never been introduced. Your analysis of Labour 'following the same policies' as the other major parties is nonsense. Yes, I can admit their own policies become somewhat diluted (naturally when a liberal party is thrown in with a conservative party), but still we get the message across and don't lie to the voters like FF and FG have been so famous for doing. Remember that labour's participation in those coalitions were, at their heart, conditional.

All you're posts here on boards so far Grassroot_FF have been devoid of principle and fact.

More gays and free fees for the rich kids in UCD? Yeah that's exactly what the country needed:rolleyes:

kev9100

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

More gays and free fees for the rich kids in UCD? Yeah that's exactly what the country needed:rolleyes:

Care to explain the more gays part? And no fees was designed to make it easier for the middle class not the rich to get to college.

Killer Pigeon

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

More gays and free fees for the rich kids in UCD? Yeah that's exactly what the country needed:rolleyes:

Oh, I'm sure the people over the in LGBT forum whom you tried to beflatter so gallantly a couple of days ago won't be too happy to hear this. I quote;

Fianna Fáil are becoming very pro-gay these days if any of you people want to get involved in politics

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056135531

Gay people can feel confident that FF will represent them.

Yes, I'm sure dear sir.

And of course, we shall forget about the middle and lower income earning families just because there are a few rich kids.

Mardy Bum

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

More gays and free fees for the rich kids in UCD? Yeah that's exactly what the country needed:rolleyes:

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Are you a current student of UCD?

Current Student of Fianna Fail indoctrination by the looks of his posts.
I reckon he will get a 1st!

keepkeyyellow

I'm amazed how the thread can go from SU Elections > Someone stealing Talleyrand's identity > Term Limits > KBC > The Gays.

Train of thought is fantastic.

Mycroft H

Could we not just get rid of the SU in its entirety?

They really aren't any use whatsoever

Fad

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Would he, like Gary, not have it in his interests to finish his degree.

Scott has finished his degree........