Why? *distressing pics*

EGAR

Why do some people have dogs? Why do they not take them to the vet if they are sick? Why do they let them go real bad and then dump them?

WHY???????? :mad:





Didn't even have the guts to hand him in. What a sh*tty start for the year 2011.

Shanao

FFS, the poor dog. Hope the piece of **** who let him get like that gets what's coming to them

beanie.

Oh EGAR, he's gorgeous (well he will be).
Sarcoptes or demodex?

EGAR

I don't know yet, he is coming to EGAR tomorrow. He was dumped in a pound last night.

andreac

Ah ffs, what is wrong with people!!!!:mad::mad::(
Well done for taking him in EGAR.

Cherry Blossom

The natural evolution of the human race seems to skip an awful lot of people or they are born with parts of their brain missing (the parts that control compassion and empathy in particular). Thats the only possible reasons I can think of anyway

The Sweeper

I hope it's treatable, I hope there are no other underlying problems, and I for one look forward to seeing the 'after' photos, fingers crossed.

John_Rambo

Is he some sort of Shar Pei x Staff cross? I think these are all the rage in some areas in the UK.

EGAR

It's a Staffie pup, JR.

John_Rambo

Oh... I thought his wrinkly skin was because he's half Shar Pei, it must be because he has no fat and muscle. Best of luck, he will be in good hands tomorrow.

Cherry Blossom

John_Rambo wrote: »

Oh... I thought his wrinkly skin was because he's half Shar Pei

The same thing occured to me but I didn't think it looked quite right, like a natural part of it's make up would. You can also see around his eyes there where the skin is actually sagging so much it's like an extra eye socket!! Absolutely disgusting to let a pup get into this state!

EGAR

Dry and wrinkly skin are common in late stage mange as are secondary skin infection. He is only a few months old which is why I bet on demodectic mange.

boxerly

Poor little boy xxxxxxxxxx

daenerysstormborn3

Maybe I just haven't noticed before but there seems to be a big increase in the amount of animal cruelty cases being publicised over the past year. I say being publicised because in all reality there may have been no increase at all but just an increase in media coverage.

This photo is shocking and you'd wonder about the capacity of the person in charge of 'caring' for this pup, how could anyone let a pup get to this state?

Cherry Blossom

Good luck with this little guy Egar, I had a horse here some years ago that had a bad case of mange, it was over a year before all signs it had ever been there were gone, he also had sweet-itch which did him no favours either. Recovery after the treatment was finished was unbelievably slow as he had lost so much condition as a result of it.

EGAR

Yes, the last severe case of Demodectic mange I took in didn't really come back to normal until a full ten months had passed. It's slow but it's rewarding and he is only an ickle puplet.

I had an OTTB with sweet itch (since re-homed) - I tried conventional vet treatment etc but she didn't improve until I started feeding her Wendal's Stop Itch.

Whispered

Is it detrimental to their health besides the obvious skin discomfort? Like is that little guy going to be ok you think?

EGAR

It's very uncomfortable for them obviously but with treatment he should be ok unless there are underlying problems. I've never had a mangy dog die on me yet!

Cherry Blossom

EGAR wrote: »

I had an OTTB with sweet itch (since re-homed) - I tried conventional vet treatment etc but she didn't improve until I started feeding her Wendal's Stop Itch.

This lad was connie/ TB cross, will keep this in mind for future reference . The 2 things I found worked with this lad was feeding a garlic supplement (feed garlic to everything that will eat it now!) and not feeding anything containing molasses or beet, sticking with hay instead of hayledge and leaving him out with a certain pony that the midges seemed to prefer the taste of and had no ill-effects from being bitten.

<ETA> Should have added this fella couldn't be rugged as he'd been found tangled up in a rug with the straps cutting into him, tried and tried with this and could get a rug on him after 2 hours of approaching it very carefully, but it was the 2 hours procedure every single time and could never bring myself to leave him unsupervised with it on so had to abandon the rug idea

meathstevie

EGAR wrote: »

It's very uncomfortable for them obviously but with treatment he should be ok unless there are underlying problems. I've never had a mangy dog die on me yet!

I suppose when you look upon it as going hand in hand with malnutrition good and patient feeding is the cure.

What's he weigh in at ? Little more than half of what he should be ?

EGAR

I don't know yet, MeathStevie, he is arriving tomorrow from the Pound.

seamus

Keep us updated on his progress. Poor guy, even under all that infection you can tell he's gorgeous. How can people do this?

beanie.

If it's demodex try feeding garlic (along with treatment), it helps boost the immune system.

EGAR

Pound pup is here and was seen by my vet. He does have Demodex and secondary skin infection as well as a fungal infection. He got an injection and Advocate and has to go back to the vet in a weeks time.

In the meantime I will stabilize/boost his immune system with Echinacea and Milk Thistle. Conked out in his crate, he is as good as gold and not quite as young as I thought. I think he is about 10 months old and he is tiny.

I have named him "Phoenix".

Discodog

EGAR wrote: »

He got an injection and Advocate and has to go back to the vet in a weeks time.

My pup arrived with Demodex luckily only on his nose. Advocate was very successful but Laura (one of the Vets at BVC) attended a skin conference & told me that Advocate was not considered to be effective.

EGAR

DD, Advocate only works for mange if given at the first signs of it and then is usually just effective for Sarcoptic mange. It is, however, very effective for the treatment of fleas, worms and ear mites .

Discodog

It worked quickly on my guy & his nose had been bad for a while judging by the state of it. Mind you he got a relatively big dose. The ampoule was for 12kg+ & he weighed 12.5kg.

Demonique

Is he underweight as well?

Whispered

Lucky pup to end up with you egar. At least you wont give up on him and claim he "has to be put to sleep" because the mange is "untreatable" :mad::(

EGAR

No, he isn't underweight at all, Demonique, quite a chunky little man but his skin is badly swollen so it is hard to tell.

RubyGirl

EGAR, will you give him a bath, have a dog with bad mange at the moment, vet is to ring me tomorrow to tell me what kind, he suspects demodetic. I just think if I could rub something into him or give him a bath in something it might ease the itching? I going to try adding the garlic, and milk thistle and see how we go.

doctor evil

EGAR wrote: »

I had an OTTB with sweet itch (since re-homed) - I tried conventional vet treatment etc but she didn't improve until I started feeding her Wendal's Stop Itch.

Some horses can have allergies to the likes of Silver Birches, it can present as similar to sweet itch. A scraping would confirm what it was.

Good to hear she got rehomed.

EGAR

In case of an allergy the stop itch would not have worked and yes, she had a scraping done, as I already said she was conventionally treated first.

No, he will not get a bath yet as he got spot on, makes little sense to wash it off again. And he doesn't scratch anymore since he got the injection.

RubyGirl

EGAR wrote: »

In case of an allergy the stop itch would not have worked and yes, she had a scraping done, as I already said she was conventionally treated first.

No, he will not get a bath yet as he got spot on, makes little sense to wash it off again. And he doesn't scratch anymore since he got the injection.

Sorry EGAR I was'nt questioning your treatment at all, I was just looking for some advice on my dog.

Discodog

My little guy got another area on his nose which was getting bigger. As a precaution I treated him with Advocate on Sunday & the improvement is dramatic. It could be coincidence but it is the second time that this has happened.

pitbull_fanatic

is it just mange he has or is there more hidden problems? he's got the makings of a beautiful staffie x. looks a bit nervous but who'd blame him

EGAR

RubyGirl wrote: »

Sorry EGAR I was'nt questioning your treatment at all, I was just looking for some advice on my dog.

Sorry if it came across gruff, I was dead tired last night.

If it is Demodex mange then the immune system is usually compromised in some way and needs boosting. Feel free to PM me if you want.

EGAR

pitbull_fanatic wrote: »

is it just mange he has or is there more hidden problems? he's got the makings of a beautiful staffie x. looks a bit nervous but who'd blame him

No, just untreated mange gone on too long.

doctor evil

EGAR wrote: »

In case of an allergy the stop itch would not have worked and yes, she had a scraping done, as I already said she was conventionally treated first.

Sure sweet itch is an allergy as well? (reaction to midges saliva) Ignore if I'm rambling.

Is the dog feeling better now.

EGAR

I got the herbal supplement specifically for Sweet Itch. She had even been on steroids before that with no success, not even the slightest improvement.

EGAR

He has stopped scratching completely now, eats like a horse and all he does apart from that is sleep.. and sleep. He is a lovely little fella .

Whispered

How long does treatment usually go on for? Is it a case of never can tell?

EGAR

It really depends on the individual animal IMHO. Phoenix is young and will bounce back more quickly I hope.

chucken1

Egar,he's a very lucky doggie to end up with you. Look at that little face! He's adorable

EGAR

Update on Phoenix:

He is in foster with a boardsie since Sunday and is doing very well. Not as wrinkly anymore either and he is being pampered in the foster home

Cherry Blossom

EGAR wrote: »

Update on Phoenix:

He is in foster with a boardsie

Me thinks I recognise those floor tiles and those paws from pictures on another thread, me and my photographic memory

Is anything ever really anonymous?:p Fair play to you 'anonymous' boardsie

<Always a chance I'm wrong of course!>

Kersmash

how can people do this? I don't even have a pet but the my neighbours cat likes to hang around my house and has taken a shine to me. I can't even say no to him when he's pawing at the windows trying to get in how some people can do awful things like this is beyond me. well done on taking him in and getting him seen to. gorgeous dog.

Tranceypoo

So glad Phonenix got a happy ending, he looks so cute in that picture staring up at the camera. If only all dogs got that happy ending.

EGAR

adrenalinjunkie wrote: »

Me thinks I recognise those floor tiles and those paws from pictures on another thread, me and my photographic memory

Is anything ever really anonymous?:p Fair play to you 'anonymous' boardsie

<Always a chance I'm wrong of course!>

Lol, she can out herself if she likes

Whispered

This little man was doing so well, he had a fine covering of hair growing back and his skin seem healed. Bald but healed.

We suffered a set back yesterday. He has broken out in sores caused by a secondary bacterial infection. He's now on a course of antibiotics.

Something I was warned could happen, but a disapointment all the same.

If you want to keep up with his treatment, his recovery and his antics he has his very own FB page. http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001981871592

EGAR

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Whispered is out of the closet .