Support former UCD SU president Gary Redmond

Grassroots_FF

Gary is now president of the USI and former SU presidents and Ents officer here at UCD. Gary has always served us well and is great craic and organised many great gigs for students. He organised the biggest march in decades as 40,000 students marched in Dublin against fees. Since he became USI president many leftie and pinko begrudgers have attempted to destroy his reputation and have alleged he is in cahoots with the government to bring in fees. I have never met a harder working individual than Gary Redmond who stands up for students and is a voice for everyone. All UCD students should stick up for Gary and tell all the moaners and whingers where to go.

rainbow kirby

yosser hughes

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Gary is now president of the USI and former SU presidents and Ents officer here at UCD. Gary has always served us well and is great craic and organised many great gigs for students. He organised the biggest march in decades as 40,000 students marched in Dublin against fees. Since he became USI president many leftie and pinko begrudgers have attempted to destroy his reputation and have alleged he is in cahoots with the government to bring in fees. I have never met a harder working individual than Gary Redmond who stands up for students and is a voice for everyone. All UCD students should stick up for Gary and tell all the moaners and whingers where to go.

Support him in what? Is he a FF member?
What should the moaners and whingers do?

Grassroots_FF

yosser hughes wrote: »

Support him in what? Is he a FF member?
What should the moaners and whingers do?

It's irrelevent whether he is a FF member or not. The fact is he is the best man for the job and a hard worker. These lefty types are trying to undermine him. They were the ones rioting on the march.

yosser hughes

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

It's irrelevent whether he is a FF member or not. The fact is he is the best man for the job and a hard worker. These lefty types are trying to undermine him. They were the ones rioting on the march.

It's very relevant.Is he a FF member? If he is,then he will get no support from me.I don't support corrupt,crooked, traitors.

Grassroots_FF

yosser hughes wrote: »

It's very relevant.Is he a FF member? If he is,then he will get no support from me.I don't support corrupt,crooked, traitors.

It's not relevent. All that matters is he is doing a good job which he is.

parker kent

He is from Arklow, I can never support anybody from Arklow :pac:

Fad

He is a FF hack.

He is head of USI.

Do I need to know ANYTHING else about him?

yosser hughes

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

It's not relevent. All that matters is he is doing a good job which he is.

you're spelling relevant wrong:D.
Grassroots FF indeed!:D

maximalistic

Oh give us a break, the guy presided over the re-introduction of health fees into ucd and as usi president condemned the actions of breakaway usi members who were dealt with poorly by the gards on merrion row. Best man for the job? you really mean to insult our intelligence by telling us a Fianna Fáil careerist is the best we can do?

Grassroots_FF

maximalistic wrote: »

Oh give us a break, the guy presided over the re-introduction of health fees into ucd and as usi president condemned the actions of breakaway usi members who were dealt with poorly by the gards on merrion row. Best man for the job? you really mean to insult our intelligence by telling us a Fianna Fáil careerist is the best we can do?

Those "breakaway" people were not authorised to act by the USI and therefore deserved everything they got from the guards. The USI agreed the march route with the guards beforehand. We can't have hooligan elements taking the law into their own hands. Look at what happened in London. The students were completely out of control.

spudington16

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

It's not relevent. All that matters is he is doing a good job which he is.

"I don't have to listen to these wild accusations!"

maximalistic

"not authorised to act"?? Were the Italian student protesters authorised to take over the tower of Pisa or the colosseum in Rome for their protest? As demonised as they were by the Irish media all the "breakaway" protesters did was stage a sit in in the department of Finance before being dispersed in a less than favourable manner. They were no party headquarters attacked, no widespread vandalism or violence against police so dont throw in a comparision to London for shock value. Again these people were condemned and disowned by a USI president who is meant to represent all usi members regardless of their political beliefs. Well anyone with a half a brain knows he is a FF careerist, and for the sake of students in general he wont stand for election again.

liamygunner29

Support him to do what?

Sierra Oscar

Lest we forget.

delta_bravo

This gent is clearly a leftist subversive trying to get us to hate our esteemed alumni: Premier Redmond.

Let us remember the good times in UCD under his stewardship:

• The strong campaigning by Gary to return the UCD Students Services overpayment of €8 per student
  
• The masterful swoop of not returning the €8 to the students due to the "administrative costs"
  
• Reduction in library opening hours
  
• Failure to get a permanent 24 hour study space
  
• The great defiance to the introduction of health centre charges for students
  
• The introduction of health centre charges for students

The old campus just isn't the same without the great statesman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNrKZ0WGd5M

Raphael

I'm as inclined to dislike the man who chose to blatantly wipe his ass on SU mandate* as anyone else, but lets keep the libel and abuse to a minimum here.



*Referencing Gary Redmonds support of the reintroduction of Health Centre Fees, something the SU had been mandated to oppose in any form

Fad

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Lest we forget.

I could not support a man with such awful awful hair........

delta_bravo wrote: »

• The Science Day debacle where €35,000 for charity vanished

Pretty sure that had little or nothing to do with him, his education colleague DO'S was more involved, although amusingly, he was also a KBC head........... >_>

Wolfe Tone

Quite frankly he is a Bollocks, I hope I never see his smarmy face again, least I be tempted to follow facekickers sage advice.

delta_bravo

Fad wrote: »

Pretty sure that had little or nothing to do with him, his education colleague DO'S was more involved, although amusingly, he was also a KBC head........... >_>

Yeah I took that out of my post. Forgot who the genius behind the one was.

parker kent

maximalistic wrote: »

"not authorised to act"?? Were the Italian student protesters authorised to take over the tower of Pisa or the colosseum in Rome for their protest? As demonised as they were by the Irish media all the "breakaway" protesters did was stage a sit in in the department of Finance before being dispersed in a less than favourable manner. They were no party headquarters attacked, no widespread vandalism or violence against police so dont throw in a comparision to London for shock value. Again these people were condemned and disowned by a USI president who is meant to represent all usi members regardless of their political beliefs. Well anyone with a half a brain knows he is a FF careerist, and for the sake of students in general he wont stand for election again.

As much as I may disagree with much of what Redmond and the USI do, the many students with faces covered, throwing rocks and invading a government building went well beyond simple protesting. That there was not widespread vandalism etc is due in part to good policing by the Gardaí. But there has already been a long thread on the march, so this we should not get into it too much here.

Plus on a wider note, many people are blinded into a mindless rabble and instantly condemning anything remotely related to Fianna Fail. The posts consisting of "pfft Fianna Fail" hardly have much merit behind them. Complain about their poor policies and suggest alternatives by all means, but don't get bogged down in rabble raising and looking for a pound of flesh.

Annasopra

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Gary is now president of the USI and former SU presidents and Ents officer here at UCD. Gary has always served us well and is great craic and organised many great gigs for students. He organised the biggest march in decades as 40,000 students marched in Dublin against fees. Since he became USI president many leftie and pinko begrudgers have attempted to destroy his reputation and have alleged he is in cahoots with the government to bring in fees. I have never met a harder working individual than Gary Redmond who stands up for students and is a voice for everyone. All UCD students should stick up for Gary and tell all the moaners and whingers where to go.

No Thanks - I don't support Gary because he doesn't support my interests as a student and doesn't support the members of USI. He is also choosing to attack our frontline services by calling for the renegotiation of Croke Park

http://www.corkstudentnews.com/news/topstories/iadt-lecturer-hits-out-at-usi-over-croke-park-statement-19842

parker kent

Johnnymcg wrote: »

No Thanks - I don't support Gary because he doesn't support my interests as a student and doesn't support the members of USI. He is also choosing to attack our frontline services by calling for the renegotiation of Croke Park

http://www.corkstudentnews.com/news/topstories/iadt-lecturer-hits-out-at-usi-over-croke-park-statement-19842

That has to be renegotiated. And this is coming from someone who is now jobless thanks to public service cuts. But the Croke Park agreement HAS to be renegotiated.

delta_bravo

Johnnymcg wrote: »

No Thanks - I don't support Gary because he doesn't support my interests as a student and doesn't support the members of USI. He is also choosing to attack our frontline services by calling for the renegotiation of Croke Park

http://www.corkstudentnews.com/news/topstories/iadt-lecturer-hits-out-at-usi-over-croke-park-statement-19842

Thats a separate issue completely. Also, an Art and Design lecturer is not a "frontline service"

A cynical view of that lecturers comments would say she is trying to protect her pay and workload. The Institutes of Technology appear to be in need of some major restructuring anyway if you look at this article.

Letter to Irish Times, 28th Sept 2010

** Speaking of academic pay rates, the following is the text of a letter we received from a senior figure in one of the Institutes of Technology (IOTs).

“In the IoTs, there is no requirement on teaching staff to hold a PhD-level qualifications to be hired, which is as it should be. We have people with trade certificates and basic degrees earning huge amounts of money. There is no expectation on these people to produce any research or do anything other than be present for their basic teaching hours. Once the examinations are over in the middle of May, they are not seen again on campus until the 1st of September, apart from dealing with the exams process, correcting scripts etc, for which they are paid additional, extraordinary sums of money.

“This also applies to Heads of Departments and Schools, probably averaging almost €100,000 pa – these people are here for little more than six months of the year. In short, the rates of academic pay in the IoTs, for a hugely underqualified and underperforming workforce, is nothing short of a national disgrace.”

The academic in question wants to maintain his anonymity. He writes: “I have to work with these people every day, so I would be committing career suicide by going public. I’ve seen too many people who spoke out get isolated over the years. It’s just not worth it.”

Expect this issue to receive considerably more coverage in the coming weeks.

I wouldn't give Gary any criticism for that deal at all.

unknown13

parker kent wrote: »

As much as I may disagree with much of what Redmond and the USI do, the many students with faces covered, throwing rocks and invading a government building went well beyond simple protesting. That there was not widespread vandalism etc is due in part to good policing by the Gardaí. But there has already been a long thread on the march, so this we should not get into it too much here.

They weren't students doing that they were left wing political groups such as Eirigi and SWP doing that hooliganism.

Fad

unknown13 wrote: »

They weren't students doing that they were left wing political groups such as Eirigi and SWP doing that hooliganism.

SWP has a group within UCD.............

Riamfada

Support him for what? Is he running again?

Killer Pigeon

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Gary is now president of the USI and former SU presidents and Ents officer here at UCD. Gary has always served us well and is great craic and organised many great gigs for students. He organised the biggest march in decades as 40,000 students marched in Dublin against fees. Since he became USI president many leftie and pinko begrudgers have attempted to destroy his reputation and have alleged he is in cahoots with the government to bring in fees. I have never met a harder working individual than Gary Redmond who stands up for students and is a voice for everyone. All UCD students should stick up for Gary and tell all the moaners and whingers where to go.

You dare show your presents on boards.ie with a FF mindset?

By the way Gary is a moany little cheating lying careerist biAtch. How much did he pay you?

Killer Pigeon

parker kent wrote: »

As much as I may disagree with much of what Redmond and the USI do, the many students with faces covered, throwing rocks and invading a government building went well beyond simple protesting. That there was not widespread vandalism etc is due in part to good policing by the Gardaí. But there has already been a long thread on the march, so this we should not get into it too much here.

Plus on a wider note, many people are blinded into a mindless rabble and instantly condemning anything remotely related to Fianna Fail. The posts consisting of "pfft Fianna Fail" hardly have much merit behind them. Complain about their poor policies and suggest alternatives by all means, but don't get bogged down in rabble raising and looking for a pound of flesh.

I believe the little angel Gary Redmond was involved in a few sit down protests (some in government buildings) in his time. Obviously not as much as his predecessors in UCD.

Killer Pigeon

unknown13 wrote: »

They weren't students doing that they were left wing political groups such as Eirigi and SWP doing that hooliganism.

Eirigí, yes
SWP, not so sure

I think people in Eirigí are a little bit more ... well rowdy, tbh.

Just a note, not all left wing political groups support hooliganism.

Further note, SWP and Eirigí weren't the only people who 'raided' the DoF.

Killer Pigeon

parker kent wrote: »

As much as I may disagree with much of what Redmond and the USI do, the many students with faces covered, throwing rocks and invading a government building went well beyond simple protesting. That there was not widespread vandalism etc is due in part to good policing by the Gardaí. But there has already been a long thread on the march, so this we should not get into it too much here.

To be fair, there weren't many people with faces covered. From the photos of the event you can clearly see that only 1 or 2 people have faces covered and they were most likely from the undesirable group who always try to cause trouble at any and every major public gathering.

Plus, as I've said. The USI have 'invaded' government buildings in the past all without major Garda intervention.

Killer Pigeon

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

It's irrelevent whether he is a FF member or not. The fact is he is the best man for the job and a hard worker. These lefty types are trying to undermine him. They were the ones rioting on the march.

Sir, I call that blatant right wing propaganda. You're just, excuse my french, shit stirring to be honest. Please let's cut the bull and have some hard facts.

Also, I'm a lefty, are you trying to associate me with the riots in Baggot Street? If so, I think I would have every right to associate your FF cohort and Gary Redmond with the governments epic failings (which have caused more than a mere bloody nose) over the past couple of years.

xp90

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

Gary is now president of the USI and former SU presidents and Ents officer here at UCD. Gary has always served us well and is great craic and organised many great gigs for students. He organised the biggest march in decades as 40,000 students marched in Dublin against fees. Since he became USI president many leftie and pinko begrudgers have attempted to destroy his reputation and have alleged he is in cahoots with the government to bring in fees. I have never met a harder working individual than Gary Redmond who stands up for students and is a voice for everyone. All UCD students should stick up for Gary and tell all the moaners and whingers where to go.

craggles

Thread of the Century.

Killer Pigeon

Grassroots_FF wrote: »

(1)Those "breakaway" people were not authorised to act by the USI and therefore deserved everything they got from the guards. The USI agreed the march route with the guards beforehand. (2) We can't have hooligan elements taking the law into their own hands. Look at what happened in London. The students were completely out of control.

(1) Ah, this is good. So does that mean than people who wish to hold a separate protest should be bet up because they don't conform, eh? Do all student demonstrations have to be authorised by an undemocratically elected USI that doesn't have the unanimous support of the students? Sometimes I really do ask what type of democracy we're living in at all.

(2) Yes, sit down protester are indeed hooligans.

Killer Pigeon

And furthermore, would the Saint* not want to get back down to work and finish his bloody degree, he's been off on a high fling now for the past couple of years doing jack shit. He's the true embodiment of a waster TBH.


*Master Redmond.

robz18

TDOie

Down with this sort of thing!

PrivateEye

Gary Redmond himself has taken part in sit-down protests, including the one shown here, called by, and organised by Free Education for Everyone. The images in this post are from a FEE blockade in UCD (supported by UCDSU) at the arrival of Brian Lenihan in 2008.

Gardaí remove him from the roadway in several images. He also took part in an occupation of Wicklow County Council offices.

Should also state obvious troll is obvious. Notice when you put Gary Redmond into google, right below 'Gary Redmond USI' you find 'Gary Redmond Fianna Fail'. Tough break.

FiendishFriend

If you can't complete what you need to do in one term then you are not good at your job!!! So sick of these these serial SU ****es sponging off us over and over!! Get out into the real world and get a real job !!! One term and thats it !!! Rumour has it Scott Ahern is going to run again if not in UCD then in USI and i have no doubt redmond will run again !! GET OUT AND WORK LIKE THE REST OF US !!!

Riamfada

Do you remember that scene in the blues brothers where the Nazis are having a rally and everyone is booing them and generally shouting abuse at them but the Nazis are oblivious. They keep spouting their delusioned propaganda until Jake and Elwood drive a car through the group.

This is a bit like this. Everyone hates Fianna Fail,Fianna Fail hacks and die hard sons and daughters of the party however our ubermensch are unable to grasp this and still believe in their superiority and god given right to rule.

I might just drive my car through the next Ogra Fianna Fail rally.

PS: Everyone hates Fianna Failers.

unknown13

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

Eirigí, yes
SWP, not so sure

I think people in Eirigí are a little bit more ... well rowdy, tbh.

Just a note, not all left wing political groups support hooliganism.

Further note, SWP and Eirigí weren't the only people who 'raided' the DoF.

As I was walking by the DoF shortly after the incident happened. You could clearly see a number of their big red banners outside it. A few of their members were even arrested in the DoF. The SWP were involved in that failed sit in.

Wolfe Tone

I am pretty sure it was OgraSF and Eirigi.

Pandoras Twist

Surely this is tongue in cheek? If not, I weep for the future.

unknown13

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

I am pretty sure it was OgraSF and Eirigi.

Give me a few mins and I will provide proof the SWP were involved.

Riamfada

Pandoras Twist wrote: »

Surely this is tongue in cheek?

You would be suprised.

unknown13

Source for backing up my argument

Wolfe Tone

unknown13 wrote: »

Source for backing up my argument

Im near sure it was just Eirigi and Ogra inside it though. I remember hearing jokes about "republican consensus at last!"

unknown13

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Im near sure it was just Eirigi and Ogra inside it though. I remember hearing jokes about "republican consensus at last!"

1) you are either a member of the SWP.

and / or

2) I have backed up my points enough, so if you can't accept that SWP than keep it to yourself. They were involved like it or not. I am not searching for any more sources because two is enough.

Wolfe Tone

unknown13 wrote: »

1) you are either a member of the SWP.

and / or

2) I have backed up my points enough, so if you can't accept that SWP than keep it to yourself. They were involved like it or not. I am not searching for any more sources because two is enough.

Being a republican I would more likely be a member of Ogra or Eirigi tbh!

Personally I supported the sit in.



So, you got that wrong son, better luck next time.

Dwaegon

MUSSOLINI wrote: »

Being a republican I would more likely be a member of Ogra or Eirigi tbh!

Personally I supported the sit in.



So, you got that wrong son, better luck next time.

Equally as bad tbh..