US May Retaliate Against the EU..

liah

http://wikileaks.ch/cable/2007/12/07PARIS4723.html

United States wrote: »

¶1. (C) Summary: Mission Paris recommends that that the USG reinforce
our negotiating position with the EU on agricultural biotechnology by
publishing a retaliation list when the extend "Reasonable Time
Period" expires. In our view, Europe is moving backwards not
forwards on this issue with France playing a leading role, along with
Austria, Italy and even the Commission. In France, the "Grenelle"
environment process is being implemented to circumvent science-based
decisions in favor of an assessment of the "common interest."
Combined with the precautionary principle, this is a precedent with
implications far beyond MON-810 BT corn cultivation. Moving to
retaliation will make clear that the current path has real costs to
EU interests and could help strengthen European pro-biotech voices.
In fact, the pro-biotech side in France -- including within the farm
union -- have told us retaliation is the only way to begin to begin
to turn this issue in France. End Summary.

...

¶6. Country team Paris recommends that we calibrate a target
retaliation list that causes some pain across the EU since this is a
collective responsibility, but that also focuses in part on the
worst culprits. The list should be measured rather than vicious and
must be sustainable over the long term, since we should not expect an
early victory.

Remember, the key word is "may." Nothing has been confirmed, but the link is provided if you're curious; I recommend reading the full cable.

Wait - they're going to attack Europe?

liah

From what I can gather, they're making a "retaliation list," albeit it's not entirely clear what exactly that means, it's clear that their intent is to, and I quote, "cause pain" if France does not comply with their demands.

spider guardian

the next call of duty game could have US army rangers vs EU forces, brilliant!

Biggins

Deleted User wrote: »

Wait - they're going to attack Europe?

"Right lads, we're going to invade a country."

"Aaa... jeasus Sarge. Not again!"

Chucky the tree

Pretty sure they mean non-military actions.

Kasabian

Fcuk the French.

What have they ever done for us?

Thierry Henry is still a cnut.

Gummy Panda

Kasabian wrote: »

Fcuk the French.

What have they ever done for us?

Gave us French toast

phantom_lord

I presume they mean trade restrictions or something similar no? Wouldn't be that new would it?

Kasabian

Gummy Panda wrote: »

Gave us French toast

Eggy bread.

liah

This is a surreal New Years for me.

I'm sitting here reading about how the US may cause pain in the EU (whatever that means), listening to what sounds like absolute warfare outside, while sitting in what was the very last residence of the Nazi government, surrounded by Germans, as an ally, watching Hitler: The Rise of Evil. :pac:

The marijuana probably isn't helping the situation.

dlofnep

The cable is only listed as confidential. If it was anything serious, it would be top secret.

charlemont

Kasabian wrote: »

Fcuk the French.

What have they ever done for us?

Thierry Henry is still a cnut.

Killala bay....

Kasabian

charlemont wrote: »

Killala bay....

Nothing in Mayo counts

greendom

Come on Barroso smash Obama in the face

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

liah wrote: »

From what I can gather, they're making a "retaliation list," albeit it's not entirely clear what exactly that means, it's clear that their intent is to, and I quote, "cause pain" if France does not comply with their demands.

What are they trying to get France to comply with?

Thank fcuk I don't have a TV, it's so much better not knowing all the shít that's going on around the world... Most of it is utter bollíx anyway.

Celly Smunt

the americans wouldnt last a day in europe,however it's not going to happen so relax people

greendom

Is it because the US produces a lot of GM food and this is banned in Europe ?

Overheal

Way to panic Liah. The Cable refers to agricultural biotech. I presume they mean economic attacks. Not acts of military sabotage.

Kasabian

pmcmahon wrote: »

the americans wouldnt last a day in europe,however it's not going to happen so relax people

Geography is not many Americans strong point.

They could end up anywhere.

Kasabian

Overheal wrote: »

Way to panic Liah. The Cable refers to agricultural biotech. I presume they mean economic attacks. Not acts of military sabotage.

She is stoned

kerryman12

just the latest battle in the ongoing trade dispute - it would appear to me at least.

liah

liah wrote: »

This is a surreal New Years for me.

I'm sitting here reading about how the US may cause pain in the EU (whatever that means), listening to what sounds like absolute warfare outside, while sitting in what was the very last residence of the Nazi government, surrounded by Germans, as an ally, watching Hitler: The Rise of Evil. :pac:

The marijuana probably isn't helping the situation.

To make things worse, I'm pretty sure what you're actually hearing outside are, in fact, Zombies.

kerryman12

Kasabian wrote: »

Geography is not many Americans strong point.

They could end up anywhere.

that might not be good for us all the same:D

Kasabian

Let's see if we can get Liah to throw a whitener.

The Americans are coming, the Americans are coming ....

Kasabian

kerryman12 wrote: »

that might not be good for us all the same:D

Nah we'll be fine the €3 travel tax will keep them away.

kerryman12

Nah we'll be fine the €3 travel tax will keep them away.

class, at least its good for something.

Mrmoe

Not too much of a surprise. I would say that they would use even harsher methods with countries like China in order to correct the trade balance.

Agent Smith

Pffft bring it on obama...

liah

Overheal wrote: »

Way to panic Liah. The Cable refers to agricultural biotech. I presume they mean economic attacks. Not acts of military sabotage.

a) as someone pointed out, I'm stoned.
b) I was just using the words used in the cable itself, if you'd care to read the article before saying I'm panicking.

RichieC

They make me sick.

Kasabian

liah wrote: »

a) as someone pointed out, I'm stoned.
b) I was just using the words used in the cable itself, if you'd care to read the article before saying I'm panicking.

Getting defencive, cold sweats coming, lips turning blue, she's going to blow :pac:

expectationlost

economic warfare!

Kasabian

expectationlost wrote: »

economic warfare!

For XBox Live!

Quiet you

Might not be such a bad thing if they did invade. They'd have to rebuild all the stuff they'd blow up so it could be the celtic tiger II.

I for one won't be making the same mistake again. No saving and living within my means for me. Fcuk fiscal prudency, it got me stuck back with my parents. I'm gonna get as much as I can and when it all goes to siht I'll wander off to Boston and file for bankruptcy. Simples.

kerryman12

Quiet you wrote: »

Might not be such a bad thing if they did invade. They'd have to rebuild all the stuff they'd blow up so it could be the celtic tiger II.

I for one won't be making the same mistake again. No saving and living within my means for me. Fcuk fiscal prudency, it got me stuck back with my parents. I'm gonna get as much as I can and when it all goes to siht I'll wander off to Boston and file for bankruptcy. Simples.

i am up for this, I will buy the biggest house i can, a new car every year, multiple holidays, let it go.

Quiet you

kerryman12 wrote: »

i am up for this, I will buy the biggest house i can, a new car every year, multiple holidays, let it go.

I called it first. Get your own scam. Why not pretend to be a Nigerian prince and figure out some form of money transfer deal? Has promise I think.

amacachi

I'd love to see a face-off between Europe and the US, I think we could just about edge it now.

liah! liah! How many fingers am I holding up?

Lirange

amacachi wrote: »

I'd love to see a face-off between Europe and the US, I think we could just about edge it now.

If they actually wanted to take over and occupy Europe they'd be screwed. If they just wanted to obliterate Europe (i.e. blow stuff up) then we'd be screwed.

Tar.Aldarion

fcuk this, i jsut bought left for dead 2 and left it uninstalled until i needed it. Now is the time!

amacachi

Lirange wrote: »

If they actually wanted to take over and occupy Europe they'd be screwed. If they just wanted to obliterate Europe (i.e. blow stuff up) then we'd be screwed.

So would they, we have CERN remember. :pac:

Terry

Ahh, we'll be grand.
We have oil and gas off the West coast.
Uncle Sam will leave us alone if we cede the natural resources and tell them that we hate the French (even if it is for the pettiest reason known to man).

If they do invade, we'll just piss them off so much that they'll leave.
Nothing like corrupt politicians to get rid of invaders. I'm looking at your grave, DeValera.

I'm watching Dead Snow. It's awesome.

Tar.Aldarion

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm watching Dead Snow. It's awesome.

im drinking apple smirnoff and red bull, it's awesome.

Lirange

That's how the zombie apocalypse starts. The Americans deliberately experiment on Europe with frankenfoods.

Don't worry - I've got Ireland sorted for Zombies and liah has Germany. We'll be fine.. we'll be fine.

Tar.Aldarion

This thread is now about daft punk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6_ZNW1DACE

ilovesleep

This might be good for Ireland. We could sell Ireland to the US to use as a military base. We'll be kicked out from the EU anyways - just give it time. We might as well help the US fight the EU. If the worst comes to the worst we have the Aran Islands to hide out in.

ejmaztec

They've tried everything else, so now we're going to be bombed out of recession - bring it on you bad-ass mofos.:(

Terry

ilovesleep wrote: »

This might be good for Ireland. We could sell Ireland to the US to use as a military base. We'll be kicked out from the EU anyways - just give it time. We might as well help the US fight the EU. If the worst comes to the worst we have the Aran Islands to hide out in.

GTFO.
The Aran islands are mine when I win the Euro millions.

I'll be declaring independance and stocking up on old 'ra weapons from the shams in Limerick. Don't even think of coming near my new state.