Republican or Democrat

bobblepuzzle

With Obama falling in the poles, what's your view?

Personally, I dread the Republicans comming back into power... even worse I dread the possiblility of Sarah Palin becoming president of the USA :eek:

4zn76tysfajdxp

Non-American.

amacachi

:eek:

starbelgrade

Republocrat.

Namlub

I'll certainly be voting for the democrats. Wait a second...

galwayrush

I'm Irish, we're ****ed, so who cares?

R0ot

For the war, against the war, who cares? 100 episodes.

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davrho

Heads or tails.....

bobblepuzzle

R0ot wrote: »

For the war, against the war, who cares? 100 episodes.

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That's not the only issue.... open your mind a tad

FreudianSlippers

Libertarian.

cleremy jarkson

Hmm..wonder what way this poll will turn out! Only Americans themselves should have any reason to want the Republicans in. For everyone else, they just mean an increased chance of a major war.

Agricola

We have more than enough problems here. Let the Americans sort themselves out. Its not like we have a vote.

Denerick

Both parties are unattractive but it is undeniable that the Democrats are the lesser of two evils. For the most part, the Democratic party is essentially a centrist European party. Over here they would be vaguely conservative, like Merkels Christian Democrats in Germany. The Republicans on the other hand are like the mildly Islamist party in Turkey. Although they won't really bring about a theocracy, they always make sure to make it look like they really want to.

Pherekydes

What problems with the Poles? What about the North Koreans, the Iranians and the Republicans (the greatest threat to world peace)?

Overheal

**** em: Libertarians FTW

bobblepuzzle

Overheal wrote: »

**** em: Libertarians FTW

Who is this party you speak of?

R0ot

bobblepuzzle wrote: »

That's not the only issue.... open your mind a tad

Yay I got one. Get the reference.

Mark200

Obama's doing a pretty good job. It's the rest of his party that's holding him back.

I'd prefer Democrats, though. The idea of the Republicans having enough power to implement everything they say they want to do is really scary. Not going to happen, though.

Anita Blow

That's odd. We're at the 2nd page and there's been no "BETTER THAN FF/NAMA LOL SHOWER OF ****" post?

epgc3fyqirnbsx

I dont care what country I'm in, I'm voting Fianna Fail

minidazzler

I support the Tea Party, they are rockin it!

FreudianSlippers

Anita Blow wrote: »

That's odd. We're at the 2nd page and there's been no "BETTER THAN FF/NAMA LOL SHOWER OF ****" post?

That'd be a completely stupid thing to say since the US is $13,875,045,734,771.76 in debt (that's $13.8+ trillion).
That's $44,793.41 for each citizen of the US.

orourkeda

bobblepuzzle wrote: »

With Obama falling in the poles, what's your view?

Personally, I dread the Republicans comming back into power... even worse I dread the possiblility of Sarah Palin becoming president of the USA :eek:

Barabk Obama is a Bullsh1tter.

So will the next republican candidate. Makes no difference.

cypharius

minidazzler wrote: »

I support the Tea Party, they are rockin it!

Obvious troll is obvious.

bobblepuzzle

orourkeda wrote: »

Barabk Obama is a Bullsh1tter.

So will the next republican candidate. Makes no difference.

No he is not, he got through a bill on healthcare that any commentator 10 years ago would have fainted at...

4zn76tysfajdxp

Overheal wrote: »

**** em: Libertarians FTW

May I ask why? Don't know a lot about them, apart from the fact that they're popular with young gun-owners and "pot" smokers.

orourkeda

Mark200 wrote: »

Obama's doing a pretty good job. It's the rest of his party that's holding him back.

I'd prefer Democrats, though. The idea of the Republicans having enough power to implement everything they say they want to do is really scary. Not going to happen, though.

Obama's done jacksh*t in office.

The same thing is true of the Democrats.

Killer Pigeon

bobblepuzzle wrote: »

With Obama falling in the poles, what's your view?

Personally, I dread the Republicans comming back into power... even worse I dread the possiblility of Sarah Palin becoming president of the USA :eek:

I'd vote for the Libertarian Party, even though they're unpopular (yes, they do exist - America isn't exactly bipartisan).

http://www.lp.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_Party_%28United_States%29

There isn't much other chose apart from that, unless you're bent on voting for the National Socialist Green Party.

bobblepuzzle

orourkeda wrote: »

Obama's done jacksh*t in office.

The same thing is true of the Democrats.

Don't cry... what in your opinion is he doing wrong?

FreudianSlippers

orourkeda wrote: »

Obama's done jacksh*t in office.

The same thing is true of the Democrats.

Remove the space and it'll work

http://whatthefu ckhasobamadonesofar.com/

bobblepuzzle

OisinT wrote: »

http://whatthe****hasobamadonesofar.com/

You need to put the f*u*c*k in that link...

Denerick

orourkeda wrote: »

Obama's done jacksh*t in office.

The same thing is true of the Democrats.

You know absolutely nothing about American politics.

Killer Pigeon

bobblepuzzle wrote: »

You need to put the f*u*c*k in that link...

There's a PG version:

http://whattheheckhasobamadonesofar.com/?q=8

bobblepuzzle

Denerick wrote: »

You know absolutely nothing about American politics.

I asked him previously as to why he thinks Obama is so sh*t, lets wait

orourkeda

Denerick wrote: »

You know absolutely nothing about American politics.

Please list the achievements that prove me wrong.

bobblepuzzle

orourkeda wrote: »

Please list the achievements that prove me wrong.

Sorry, I asked for your opinion first... please answer the question, why do you think Obama is so ****?

FreudianSlippers

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

There's a PG version:

http://whattheheckhasobamadonesofar.com/?q=8

orourkeda wrote: »

Please list the achievements that prove me wrong.

Spend 2 minutes on the above website.

Denerick

orourkeda wrote: »

Please list the achievements that prove me wrong.

His achievement is getting anything passed at all in an American body politic. The fact that you don't recognise me tells me you don't know much about how American politics works, or that it is designed to prevent powerful Presidents 'getting things done'.

orourkeda

bobblepuzzle wrote: »

Don't cry... what in your opinion is he doing wrong?

The arse has fallen out of his approval ratings for a start.

The obvious statement is that he was simply unworthy of the adulation that was heaped upon at the time of his election and he has failed spectacularly to live up to his billing.

He's no different from many politicians in the sense that he has either failed completely to deliver on the promises that he made or did so in a manner that did not tally

orourkeda

Denerick wrote: »

His achievement is getting anything passed at all in an American body politic. The fact that you don't recognise me tells me you don't know much about how American politics works, or that it is designed to prevent powerful Presidents 'getting things done'.

He had a majority which has been spunked away. If it was difficult for him previouly, it's now verging on the impossible. How many us presidents have faced the same problem

bobblepuzzle

orourkeda wrote: »

The arse has fallen out of his approval ratings for a start.

The obvious statement is that he was simply unworthy of the adulation that was heaped upon at the time of his election and he has failed spectacularly to live up to his billing.

He's no different from many politicians in the sense that he has either failed completely to deliver on the promises that he made or did so in a manner that did not tally

Sorry, you haven't given us ANY facts whatsoever, what you have done is given us your own drivel, please answer the question, WHY IS OBAMA SO ****?

FreudianSlippers

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_has_President_Barack_Obama_done_so_far wrote:

In his first week in office, Barack Obama did the following:

• Froze the salaries for top White House staff members. This is a largely symbolic act, but might be an important one.
  
• Set a deadline for the closing of Guantanamo Bay. Some of his supporters would say this is a great thing because they believe it operates as something from the Dark Ages. Others believe this characterization to not be true, and that no plan will be put place to determine what to do with the prisoners. Time will tell.
  
• Fast-tracked the process to apply new fuel standards to 2011 car models AND initiated steps to allow California to set its own standards for auto emissions that are stricter than that of the Federal government. Again, this is a measure that some of his supporters hail as a grand step forward, while his detractors (or flamers) point out that it could provide an additional severe drag on the economy, especially in car manufacturing areas.
  
• Signed a detailed executive order to ban torture and inhumane treatment of prisoners.
  
• Asked the military leadership to engage in additional planning necessary to execute a responsible military draw down from Iraq.
  
• Released the interrogation memos without consulting the Bush staff and/or Bush about it. And they were only partially released some of the information in the memos were not made public.
  
• Signed an executive order that restored a 30-day time frame for former presidents to review records before they are released. It also eliminated the right for the vice president or family members of former presidents to do the reviews.
  
• Signed an executive order that requires that appointees sign forms saying that they were not hired because of political affiliations or contributions. This is far from an unbeatable measure, but is an important early step towards cleaning up governmental hiring policies. It is easier to prove someone lied when their signature is right next to the statement in question.
  
• Signed an order banning gifts from lobbyists and banning anyone from working in an agency they had lobbied in previous years. Promptly made the order toothless by immediately granting a waiver to a former defense lobbyist.
  
• Lifted a ban on giving federal money to international groups that perform abortions or provide abortion information.
  
• Granted his first TV interview as president to Al-Arabiya, a channel described as a "voice of moderation" to the Middle East. His supporters call this a very smart move to help angered nations and groups feel a bit less cast aside, and let them know that they need not resort to violence to be made a part of the world discussion. Detractors point out that this is the type of thing Neville Chamberlain would have done, though a TV interview and "the Munch Agreement" are leagues apart.

In his first 7 months in office
He's done quite a lot actually.

• He has so far passed an economic recovery bill which has met mixed criticism but is slowly progressing. He has passed the AMD Stabilization and Support bill which was tailored to help stabilize and strengthen the United States Military, and has shown improvement within the standard. President Obama has also been working on other proposals, bills, and acts to be passed on topics such as Health Care reform, Education, the Mortgage crisis, the war on Al-Qaeda, and Domestic policy.
  
• Promised to send additional troops to Afghanistan in March and began the pullout of troops in Iraq.
  
• Passed the bailout of the auto industry and pressured their management to tow the party line.
  
• Waffled on sending troops and allowed those serving no suffer from lack of support. (If you had to send 30,000 Americans to a war zone I bet you would hesitate unless I realized lives were at stake and I was in charge)
  
• Refused to allow open meetings regarding health care reform as promised.
  
• Passed more tax increases on middle America than any other President.
  
• Encouraged Cap and trade passage to increase demand of foreign oil and raise the cost of our supply. (How does cap and trade increase demand? (See discussion))
  
• Promised to make tough decisions regarding the ability to continue paying medicare payments. Cutting $400 billion from their budget.
  
• Insulted police doing their jobs making the office look foolish. (How? (See discussion)

First Year:

• Sent troops to Afghanistan but pulled troops out of Iraq (What planet? He has nt pulled out of Iraq!) we are now at 115,000 troops as of 2/11/2010! Zero actual draw down.
• Made a more transparent form of Government (almost daily daily Facebook Q&A's with his staff) Has had more closed door meetings then any previous administration. Even his open door committee only has closed door meetings!
• Tried several times to get the Republicans to join him and get bi-partizanship on the destruction of democracy. Republicans did not wish to contribute!
• Passed a stimulus package that is creating no jobs across the country. This bill has given more to the rich then every previous President combined!
• Well on his way to passing the HC bill which will ration health care to most Americans and help less then 12 million. The cost will destroy our children's and grand children's future.
• Managed to have the two worst months for deficit spending ever. (The two Februarys he has been President)

Just to put it out there.

Oh not to mention had "Don't ask, don't tell" repealed last week!

orourkeda

OisinT wrote: »

Spend 2 minutes on the above website.

http://obamalies.net/obama-lies-directory

another 2 monutes here.

El_Dangeroso

Cali Chilly Therapist wrote: »

May I ask why? Don't know a lot about them, apart from the fact that they're popular with young gun-owners and "pot" smokers.

This will tell you all you need to know:

http://www.leftycartoons.com/wp-content/uploads/types_of_libertarian1.png

Can you guess which type of libertarian I am? :cool:

bobblepuzzle

orourkeda wrote: »

http://obamalies.net/obama-lies-directory

another 2 monutes here.

Mate, what kind of ****e are you reading... go to bed :mad:

orourkeda

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

FreudianSlippers

orourkeda wrote: »

"I will see your facts and raise you this conspiracy theory!"

:facepalm:

orourkeda

bobblepuzzle wrote: »

Mate, what kind of ****e are you reading... go to bed :mad:

You dont like it no?

FreudianSlippers

orourkeda wrote: »

You dont like it no?

Conveniently ignoring Post #43?

jd007

bobblepuzzle wrote: »

With Obama falling in the poles, what's your view?

Hey leave the Polish out of this!! :mad: :pac:

OctavarIan

orourkeda wrote: »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

I'm about as anti-capitalist as they get, but I've watched this before and it's pure tripe of the highest order.