moderator test

ormondprop

was just thnking that it would be good to do a moderator comparrison test. i have a .25 ase utra jet z compact with a 5/8x18 thread so just wondering is there any lads out there with mods in the same thread that would be willing to meet up and do some testing

gunhappy_ie

Do you have a sound meter and chronograph to test before and after shots ??

ormondprop

couldnt be arsed buying a chronograph unless someone had one to give a lend of, if a few lads were willing to come i'd buy a sound meter, something like this should do the job
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-Accurate...item2eb009b221

gunhappy_ie

ormondprop wrote: »

couldnt be arsed buying a chronograph unless someone had one to give a lend of, if a few lads were willing to come i'd buy a sound meter, something like this should do the job
http://cgi.ebay.com/Digital-Accurate...item2eb009b221

Sorry but i dont think that will do it. My pistol fires at about 160+ db..... my suppressor spec says it knocks off just over 30 db so it still might be too loud with the suppressor on.

poulo6.5

ormondprop wrote: »

was just thnking that it would be good to do a moderator comparrison test. i have a .25 ase utra jet z compact with a 5/8x18 thread so just wondering is there any lads out there with mods in the same thread that would be willing to meet up and do some testing

I have a t8 on my tikka .223. I think it has the same thread as yours and I am in tip as well so I can meet up with you if you want.

Excuse the pun but it sounds interesting.

ormondprop

sounds like a plan. even though the t8 prob wont fit on my rifle i'd still like to see how my mod compares to yours on your tikka, just have to see does anyone else want to meet up aswell

shanmoll308

Hey Poulo you can collect my chronograph on your way if its of any use to ye. But be warned if you shoot it..its your's

Shanmoll308.

poulo6.5

shanmoll308 wrote: »

Hey Poulo you can collect my chronograph on your way if its of any use to ye. But be warned if you shoot it..its your's

Shanmoll308.

Cheers Shanmoll I will take you up on that if you don't mind. It would kill 2 birds for me as I want to check the MV of the superformance ammo I got. It states 3000fps on the box tested with a 24" barrel. My barrel is 22.5" so will be interesting.

Thanks

ormondprop

i have a few other lads on a differant site who will meet up aswell so this could work out, just have to save up and find a good sound meter now,
i just hate the way you get feck all good comparrisons of equipment, before i bought my mod the only one i heard in the flesh was a t8 and was great for sound reduction but i didnt want anything that big on my rifle, so i was only going on what other people said about their mods as a guide on what to buy, atleast if we do side by side comparrisons of them people will know which is smallest, lightest or best for sound reduction

Tackleberrywho

ormondprop wrote: »

i have a few other lads on a differant site who will meet up aswell so this could work out, just have to save up and find a good sound meter now,
i just hate the way you get feck all good comparrisons of equipment, before i bought my mod the only one i heard in the flesh was a t8 and was great for sound reduction but i didnt want anything that big on my rifle, so i was only going on what other people said about their mods as a guide on what to buy, atleast if we do side by side comparrisons of them people will know which is smallest, lightest or best for sound reduction

Relative to calibre though

.270 is one of the loudest rifles to hush
.220 swift is also extremely loud amongst others.

ormondprop

that all depends on everyone here to help out, if we get enough calibre's and mods with similar threads
and most importantly, it wud be a bit of craic

murph226

I have a PES T12 scout on a .223 Tikka, might be able to make this aswell pending when its on!

Tackleberrywho

I'm going to try out the S5 ASE ULTRA on the .308 tomorrow.

Turns out it is the same thread so I can bring both Mods with me, and try both



She is smaller in overall length but perhaps similar in effective length

gunhappy_ie

Depending when and where Id love to come along

ormondprop

i dont mind when we do it or where, has anybody got a good place where they zero their rifles that would do

poulo6.5

ormondprop wrote: »

i dont mind when we do it or where, has anybody got a good place where they zero their rifles that would do

i have a place up the mountain from me where i regularly 0 and practice, and is commonly used by other shooters for 0'ing there.
its miles from any houses and easy to get to if it suits people to come to clonmel;)

other than that i'm flexible on traveling:D

ormondprop

sounds good to me if other lads are willing to travel there, will have to source a soundmeter first

ormondprop

poulo6.5 wrote: »

It would kill 2 birds for me as I want to check the MV of the superformance ammo I got.
Thanks

maybe you could kill 3 birds if you can persuade somebody with a .204 to come:D

poulo6.5

ormondprop wrote: »

sounds good to me if other lads are willing to travel there, will have to source a soundmeter first

i will make some inquiries here and see what i can come up with

foxboy

would love to go aswell, depending where and when, Clonmel sounds good
have remington 700 .223 and should have au northstar in a week or so, waiting for permission
the northstar is 1/2" unf

ianoo

i'd be interested as well ,i have 2 mods at the moment a ase north star and a roedale delta light ,both in .30 cal threaded 1/2 x 20 unf ...use them both on my .308 and .223 .would be great to see how they compare to others ,,,clonmel would suit me as well ..
ian

ormondprop

i was asking around and its very hard to come by sound meters that measure over 130db and they are very expensive so it was recommended to get one that will go to 130db and place it 5 or 10m to the side of the rifle and it should work then

poulo6.5

ormondprop wrote: »

i was asking around and its very hard to come by sound meters that measure over 130db and they are very expensive so it was recommended to get one that will go to 130db and place it 5 or 10m to the side of the rifle and it should work then

Sure once we keep the sound meter in the same place and shoot from the same place that should be good enough for a comparison

ormondprop

i was hoping you'd say that because i wasn't going spending a fortune on one, i'll buy a sound meter so and as soon as i get it we can arrange a date that suits everyone

declan1980

if ye're gonna have a chronograph i wouldn't mind giving it a go, i'd love to find out what my actual mv is. i've got a au northstar in .25 cal, so it would be interesting to see if there was much between it and the 30 cal on a 223. i'm only a half hour from clonmel, so if i'm not working it would be no bother for me to come down

ormondprop

just came across this for free, just 17 euro for postage, the site obviously made a mistake as i googled it and its worth over 200euro, have no feckin money on my credit card though, i wonder if i bought it would i have gotten away with it
http://soundmeter.ie/sound-meters/sound-meter-407750-sound-level-meter-with-pc-interface.html

foxboy

maybe, I think they would not be able to charge you any more than the €17 as it would be an unauthorised charge

clivej

ormondprop wrote: »

just came across this for free, just 17 euro for postage, the site obviously made a mistake as i googled it and its worth over 200euro, have no feckin money on my credit card though, i wonder if i bought it would i have gotten away with it
http://soundmeter.ie/sound-meters/sound-meter-407750-sound-level-meter-with-pc-interface.html

foxboy wrote: »

maybe, I think they would not be able to charge you any more than the €17 as it would be an unauthorised charge

At that money you should give it a go but chances are they will refund you the postage and not send it on.
But if the order department is not aware of the zero charge then it will get shipped.

welsummer

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I'm going to try out the S5 ASE ULTRA on the .308 tomorrow.She is smaller in overall length but perhaps similar in effective length .

i had a s5 for a couple of days, using it on a 243 and gave it back. it was nowhere near as effective as the t8.

i would love to hear the results of you test, instead of the usual sales from a sales man

Tackleberrywho

welsummer wrote: »

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I'm going to try out the S5 ASE ULTRA on the .308 tomorrow.She is smaller in overall length but perhaps similar in effective length .

i had a s5 for a couple of days, using it on a 243 and gave it back. it was nowhere near as effective as the t8.

i would love to hear the results of you test, instead of the usual sales from a sales man

I need a Camera Man to record

The Reflex is quite good, however there is a tinnie sound to it.
The ASE will be tested tomorrow avo all things going well

poulo6.5

ormondprop wrote: »

just came across this for free, just 17 euro for postage, the site obviously made a mistake as i googled it and its worth over 200euro, have no feckin money on my credit card though, i wonder if i bought it would i have gotten away with it
http://soundmeter.ie/sound-meters/sound-meter-407750-sound-level-meter-with-pc-interface.html

there is a lad near me that has a db meter for €80 or for hire for €15 for a day. what do you think

ormondprop

that would be perfect, 15 quid, just haveto buy some ammo now so

poulo6.5

ormondprop wrote: »

that would be perfect, 15 quid, just haveto buy some ammo now so

when do you want to do this.

ormondprop

i won't be able to do this weekend because i have matches but if it suits everyone else i could drop you down my mod some evening and ye can use it away, could anyone else who is interested in coming say when they want to di it?
this week some day if your still on holidays or the weekend or some weekend in the next few weeks?

ormondprop

time to reseruct this, i havent forgotten about it, just havent had time for it due to work during the week and i've been playing rugby and any time i did get a free day i used it to go hunting, so i was thinking maybe we could do this paddys weekend or over the easter holidays, what you guys think

poulo6.5

ormondprop wrote: »

time to reseruct this, i havent forgotten about it, just havent had time for it due to work during the week and i've been playing rugby and any time i did get a free day i used it to go hunting, so i was thinking maybe we could do this paddys weekend or over the easter holidays, what you guys think

I'm still up for it anyway.
I was up the mountain today for an hour.
I painted my targets and fired some shots at 430y and 550y.
Let me know when you are ready to do this.

ormondprop

550 yards:eek: sounds like a challenge for me with my hornet, if carlsberg did ammo

our rugby season is nearly over and hunting is nearly finished aswell so i should be free some weekend in the next few weeks

derek_g34

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I'm going to try out the S5 ASE ULTRA on the .308 tomorrow.

Turns out it is the same thread so I can bring both Mods with me, and try both

She is smaller in overall length but perhaps similar in effective length

Hey Tackleberry,

Any reason why you're using an Ase Utra S5 on your .308? On their brochure they list an S7 for .308 - .338.

Did you guys get around to meeting up yet?

Tackleberrywho

derek_g34 wrote: »

Hey Tackleberry,

Any reason why you're using an Ase Utra S5 on your .308? On their brochure they list an S7 for .308 - .338.

Did you guys get around to meeting up yet?

It is .30 cal. I was using it on the .223 for 2 reasons.

1. It was stainless and rifle is stainless
2. It is a very short moderator

I was also advised to get a bigger than .25 cal if I ever went .308 (which I did soon after)

I did not want a long moderator as the Rifle had a 26" barrel and I did not want it looking longer
Hopefully that makes sense

derek_g34

I'm in the process of looking into a suppressor for my own .308. I haven't a clue where to start. I like the look of the Ase Utra, they're made in Finland...and the Sako boys seem to know what they're doing:D

Tackleberrywho

derek_g34 wrote: »

I'm in the process of looking into a suppressor for my own .308. I haven't a clue where to start. I like the look of the Ase Utra, they're made in Finland...and the Sako boys seem to know what they're doing:D

They are really well built, a shade heavy though in stainless.

The smaller the mod the quicker it heats too.
Firing off 20 rounds and then having to wait 5 mins for it to cool can be a pain

Only an issue with high mag scopes that can pick up the Mirage

I'll be using it Sunday at MNSCI

clivej

derek_g34 wrote: »

I'm in the process of looking into a suppressor for my own .308. I haven't a clue where to start. I like the look of the Ase Utra, they're made in Finland...and the Sako boys seem to know what they're doing:D

ASE Northstar .30 cal on the Sako 75 varmint .308. But I use it mainly on my .223.
It's a couple of oz's lighter than a T8 and shorter. Keeps the noise down from the rifle very well.

Tackleberrywho

I think the best Mod on the Market are the Roedale for Stalking/hunting as they in Aluminium are sooooooo light and the build quality is fantastic.

Cheaper than an ASE too!

clivej

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I think the best Mod on the Market are the Roedale for Stalking/hunting as they in Aluminium are sooooooo light and the build quality is fantastic.

Cheaper than an ASE too!

You can't complain about that. I think Edi is the agent for them.

Tackleberrywho

clivej wrote: »

You can't complain about that. I think Edi is the agent for them.

When i can scrape a few shillings together I will get one for teh .308 and leave the ASE for .223

Unless Edi does Hire Purchase!!

clivej

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

When i can scrape a few shillings together I will get one for teh .308 and leave the ASE for .223

Unless Edi does Hire Purchase!!

I'd say he will but you get the goods with the final payment.

Tackleberrywho

clivej wrote: »

I'd say he will but you get the goods with the final payment.

Ah that is not Hire purchase!

I used tio do a lot of HP off dealers. It was the only way for me.

50 now, 20 later 100 later 20 and so on. It's always a feast or famine with me!:D

After Taxing my jeep and motor bike, Insuring motorbike, buying a new barrel and buying college project components I am now brassic again.

clivej

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Ah that is not Hire purchase!

I used tio do a lot of HP off dealers. It was the only way for me.

50 now, 20 later 100 later 20 and so on. It's always a feast or famine with me!:D

After Taxing my jeep and motor bike, Insuring motorbike, buying a new barrel and buying college project components I am now brassic again.

Same here either it's a feast or a famine.
I try to get as much of the dosh together first before I do a deal so that some of the pain is taken away.

Mauser 308

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I think the best Mod on the Market are the Roedale for Stalking/hunting as they in Aluminium are sooooooo light and the build quality is fantastic.

Cheaper than an ASE too!

Hey Tack, how does the T8 compare to the Roedale for noise reduction on the 308?. What sort of money do they run?

Tackleberrywho

Mauser 308 wrote: »

Hey Tack, how does the T8 compare to the Roedale for noise reduction on the 308?. What sort of money do they run?

I never got around to buying on so I can't speak for noise reduction.

They are ~1/3 smaller and Lighter than a T8

http://www.roedaleprecision.com/epages/schalldaempfer.htm

Dachipster

I know this is an old thread, but did ye ever get around to doing the test.

I am trying to find info to make an educated choice on a mod for a tikka .223. Looking for something that will last, is tidy and obviously quite.

Question: do the over barrel ones mark the outside of the barrel?