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Rugby type legs...

  • 29-12-2010 3:09pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5


    how do i get that massive toned hamstrings look....i find it easy enought to bulid thighs, but not the backs in comparison...cheers;)..or do players just look bigger cause their shorts are tight?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    lots of heavy deadlifts and squats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭LaHaine


    Dont forget the milk!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭ScareGilly


    Deadlifts, Squats, More Deadlifts, More Squats, Some more Deadlifts, Some more Squats..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,144 ✭✭✭Parsley


    low, low squats.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭grimloch


    Maybe a few focused hamstring exercises

    Leg curls
    Glute ham raise
    Stiff legged deads


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,348 ✭✭✭the drifter


    grimloch wrote: »
    Maybe a few focused hamstring exercises

    Leg curls
    Glute ham raise
    Stiff legged deads

    pfft....squat.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭Dr Nic


    I found squats to be poor for hamstrings, and deadlifts murdered my back.
    Best thing i found was hamstring raises. Sort of like a plank for your back.
    You can vary the intensity then by using a bench to raise your legs, a medball, weights on stomach etc

    And also bulgarian squats, good mornings
    So anything but squats and deadlifts


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,692 ✭✭✭Jarren




  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Dr Nic wrote: »
    I found squats to be poor for hamstrings, and deadlifts murdered my back.
    Best thing i found was hamstring raises. Sort of like a plank for your back.
    You can vary the intensity then by using a bench to raise your legs, a medball, weights on stomach etc

    And also bulgarian squats, good mornings
    So anything but squats and deadlifts

    What you "feel" versus the actual celluar adaptation isn't always linked...

    My hamstrings are a lot less sore after a heavy set of 5 on SLDLs than they would be after 25 reps on leg curls.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭Josh_Calvert


    it's dna too....I can just look at a leg press and gain an inch around my quads but I can spend 8 months doing preacher curls and not get beyond a 20kg bell :o

    plus not all rugby players have rugby player legs per se...different shapes for positions etc...

    good advice about squats though....my own view would be that squats are what you do when you've already built up your hams and quads....they'll just wear you out and **** your back if you start heavy or even moderate without having built up fibres and ligaments in your legs beforehand.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,892 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    good advice about squats though....my own view would be that squats are what you do when you've already built up your hams and quads....they'll just wear you out and **** your back if you start heavy or even moderate without having built up fibres and ligaments in your legs beforehand.

    hah?

    they/them/theirs


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭ScareGilly


    First trip to the gym, I started on 85kg squats, I'm 85 kg and it had no effect on my back. The only thing I have to say about squats is when you're just starting out, wrap a towel/cushion around the bar, my shoulders still get sore from the weight of the bar on them..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,032 ✭✭✭dave80


    ScareGilly wrote: »
    wrap a towel/cushion around the bar, my shoulders still get sore from the weight of the bar on them..

    do not do this, man up and work the upper back with facepulls, rear laterals etc


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,323 ✭✭✭Dr Nic


    Lol yeah, i remember when squats took more out of my traps than my legs...
    It goes away after about 3 months... :)

    Try some cleans to build your traps, then you'll have a nice cradle to hold the bar in


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 983 ✭✭✭Frogdog


    good advice about squats though....my own view would be that squats are what you do when you've already built up your hams and quads....they'll just wear you out and **** your back if you start heavy or even moderate without having built up fibres and ligaments in your legs beforehand.

    How about building up your hams and quads, and all fibres and ligaments contained therein, by squatting at whatever weight you can manage at the start, and then increasing it every few workouts until you have "rugby type legs"??? :rolleyes::confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    I used to "wall sit" when training for speed skating. That built up my quads massively.

    Just sit against a wall like you are on a chair. But without the chair.

    Hold as long as you can before you collapse.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Jumpy wrote: »
    I used to "wall sit" when training for speed skating. That built up my quads massively.

    Just sit against a wall like you are on a chair. But without the chair.

    Hold as long as you can before you collapse.

    ....and if he was looking to train his hamstrings, which he is :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Hanley wrote: »
    ....and if he was looking to train his hamstrings, which he is :D

    Its right next to it. I got close.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 21,981 ✭✭✭✭Hanley


    Jumpy wrote: »
    Its right next to it. I got close.

    I tried to tell her that, but she was having none of it. :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭ScareGilly


    dave80 wrote: »
    do not do this, man up and work the upper back with facepulls, rear laterals etc

    Nothing wrong with my upper back, I just have bad shoulders.. All I feel I need to work on is my core/abs. I'm just not built for weights, my knees are shagged, my shoulders are shagged, my ankles are shagged... Just trying to help a guy out, all he asked for was rugby type legs, not a strong back ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,368 ✭✭✭cc87


    ScareGilly wrote: »
    Just trying to help a guy out, all he asked for was rugby type legs, not a strong back ;)

    Show me someone with "rugby" type legs and a weak back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 723 ✭✭✭ScareGilly


    cc87 wrote: »
    Show me someone with "rugby" type legs and a weak back.

    That's not the point... But I suppose when I started going to my gym, there was no free weights, so I had to use isolation machines for my legs. So I can safely say I had "rugby" type legs and a weakish back.. The point is, the OP asked how to get "rugby" type legs. The answer is squats and deadlifts. Not getting a strong back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,541 ✭✭✭Davei141


    ScareGilly wrote: »
    Nothing wrong with my upper back, I just have bad shoulders.. All I feel I need to work on is my core/abs. I'm just not built for weights, my knees are shagged, my shoulders are shagged, my ankles are shagged... Just trying to help a guy out, all he asked for was rugby type legs, not a strong back ;)
    ScareGilly wrote: »
    That's not the point... But I suppose when I started going to my gym, there was no free weights, so I had to use isolation machines for my legs. So I can safely say I had "rugby" type legs and a weakish back.. The point is, the OP asked how to get "rugby" type legs. The answer is squats and deadlifts. Not getting a strong back.

    Silly season has begun a day early.


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