Barmen Short Changing People

HayleyLyons1

Seems to be a epidemic of this behaviour going on at the minute. Was attempted on me twice yesterday, and once on Christmas Eve. Spoke to a couple of friends and a similar thing happened to them.

Seems like more than "innocent mistakes", funny enough have yet to be given more change than I was due.

Do barmen think they can fleece the drunken reveller?

galwayrush

Some do, just keep your wits about you.

Degag

HayleyLyons1 wrote: »

funny enough have yet to be given more change than I was due.

Have often done it. Realised after i've given a customer their change that i gave them the change of a tenner instead of a fiver, or forgot to charge for a drink or mixer or something. Not many people say so either.

Mr. Manager

Happened me once in Barcode.

Start of the night and there was only about 12 people in the place including myself and 4 friends. I had just asked the taxi man to stop off at the ATM for cash for the night before arriving. When I got in I handed a €50 to my friend, headed to the toilet and told her to get myself and herself a drink. When I came back she handed me about €12 change.

She said to me "did you not give me a €50, I thought you did but the barman said otherwise" - I walked over to the barman and asked him for my remaining money. He told me to go away and that I was drunk. At this point not even a drop of alcohol had touched my lips.

Luckily for me, I know the head owner from playing poker, so out I walked to the hut to Mr. X and said that I was short changed. Mr.X went inside and told the lad behind the bar to count his til and that it shouldn't take long as it was only the start of the night.

In the end, I got my change back but not even an apology out of the c*nt.

Degag

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Happened me once in Barcode.

Start of the night and there was only about 12 people in the place including myself and 4 friends. I had just asked the taxi man to stop off at the ATM for cash for the night before arriving. When I got in I handed a €50 to my friend, headed to the toilet and told her to get myself and herself a drink. When I came back she handed me about €12 change.

She said to me "did you not give me a €50, I thought you did but the barman said otherwise" - I walked over to the barman and asked him for my remaining money. He told me to go away and that I was drunk. At this point not even a drop of alcohol had touched my lips.

Luckily for me, I know the head owner from playing poker, so out I walked to the hut to Mr. X and said that I was short changed. Mr.X went inside and told the lad behind the bar to count his til and that it shouldn't take long as it was only the start of the night.

In the end, I got my change back but not even an apology out of the c*nt.

To be fair to the barman, you can often have chancers (and i'm not saying you're one!) who say they handed you a fifty when they didn't. I normally tell them that they'll have to come back tomorrow when the till is counted. It's not really necessary to count the till then because the genuine person will come back while the chancer won't!

Of course when you were proved to be right, you should have gotten an apology!

TanG411

I gave a tenner to a barman for a Cidona.

Got back €47.80.

Suffice to say, I walked away pleased.
Maybe I'm the reason the country is in such turmoil? If that's the case, I can understand the politicians/bankers/above-average Joe taking bonuses.

I had a good night anyway.

Mr. Manager

Degag wrote: »

To be fair to the barman, you can often have chancers (and i'm not saying you're one!) who say they handed you a fifty when they didn't. I normally tell them that they'll have to come back tomorrow when the till is counted. It's not really necessary to count the till then because the genuine person will come back while the chancer won't!

Of course when you were proved to be right, you should have gotten an apology!

Ah yea, I'm fully aware that people will try their luck at any given time. It was mainly the fact that the guy instantly thought I was drunk and completely dismissed my allegation and then wouldn't apologise when proven wrong.

I worked in retail for a number of years and had people trying on a regular basis. I quickly learned to just leave whatever note they gave me on the till before issuing the change. That way if there was ever any complication I would simply point to the note and say "this is your note, it hasn't been in the till"

happyoutscan

Rosicky7 wrote: »

I had a good night anyway.

On Cidona?

Remmy

I gave a barmen twenty euro for two pints of guiness once and got back the twenty and some change.He probablly thought I gave him a tenner or something.:D

Degag

Remmy wrote: »

I gave a barmen twenty euro for two pints of guiness once and got back the twenty and some change.He probablly thought I gave him a tenner or something.:D

How would that work exactly?

Fishyfreak

Degag wrote: »

How would that work exactly?

Must have been in Oppositeland.

CorkMan

Cereal Rapist wrote: »

Happened me once in Barcode.

Start of the night and there was only about 12 people in the place including myself and 4 friends. I had just asked the taxi man to stop off at the ATM for cash for the night before arriving. When I got in I handed a €50 to my friend, headed to the toilet and told her to get myself and herself a drink. When I came back she handed me about €12 change.

She said to me "did you not give me a €50, I thought you did but the barman said otherwise" - I walked over to the barman and asked him for my remaining money. He told me to go away and that I was drunk. At this point not even a drop of alcohol had touched my lips.

Luckily for me, I know the head owner from playing poker, so out I walked to the hut to Mr. X and said that I was short changed. Mr.X went inside and told the lad behind the bar to count his til and that it shouldn't take long as it was only the start of the night.

In the end, I got my change back but not even an apology out of the c*nt.

If there were no cameras in the place he would have got pulled over the counter by me and have recieving a big thumping. Plus I would take my change from the register.

AnonoBoy

CorkMan wrote: »

If there were no cameras in the place he would have got pulled over the counter by me and have recieving a big thumping. Plus I would take my change from the register.

No you wouldn't.

High energy

They need to make their money somehow, I say fair play to our new generation of thieving bar persons.

smurgen

id say some do but i can say the majority of the time it's just a simple error. Was working in one of corks busiest nightclubs last night and we were very understaffed. had a few people catch me for money too.handed me a handfull of coppers and stroll away quickly. bar was too busy to go after them! if i short changed anyone it was cause i was doing the work of a few people!

Degag

I remember short changing a guy twice on one night. He went ballistic! One time it was for something like 15c or something. He couldn't understand why i wouldn't be bothered trying to short change someone for the sake of 15c!

Mr. Manager

High energy wrote: »

They need to make their money somehow, I say fair play to our new generation of thieving bar persons.

I hope you get ripped off next time you buy a pint.

vektarman

HayleyLyons1 wrote: »

Do barmen think they can fleece the drunken reveller?

Not just barmen, some barwomen seen to be doing it as well.

Mr. Manager

Are they not just called bartenders? Falling in with the whole air steward/stewardess - actor/actress bullsh*t

Kimono-Girl

its easy to confuse money i did it last week in our local, i ordered a bottle of coke, paid €5 and because it was busy i told him keep the change since it was only a euro or two, he looked at me all shocked and was like "are you sure?" so i said yes and went back to my friends, only when i got home i realized i had the €5 in my wallet and my €20 was gone....

so he got a decent tip anyway

Run_to_da_hills

There use to be a guy in McDonaghs Dalkey (Before it changed management to the Ivory) who was renowned for short changing. I would always come prepared and would memorize the last five digits on any larger denomination and leave it mark on it before handing it to him, this guy was also seasoned at it and would hand back the change of a tenner in a crowded bar and quickly start serving down the other end of the bar hoping you would forget in the confusion, I exposed him twice out loud in front of customers.

A good tip is to break any lager notes to lessen this problem.

Kintarō Hattori

Kimono-Girl wrote: »

its easy to confuse money i did it last week in our local, i ordered a bottle of coke, paid €5 and because it was busy i told him keep the change since it was only a euro or two, he looked at me all shocked and was like "are you sure?" so i said yes and went back to my friends, only when i got home i realized i had the €5 in my wallet and my €20 was gone....

so he got a decent tip anyway

Hehe, he probably thought you fancied him. Was he overly friendly next time you went in?

Kimono-Girl

Kintarō Hattori wrote: »

Hehe, he probably thought you fancied him. Was he overly friendly next time you went in?

ha ha no

we have before i did the above, gotten free drinks and crisps from there, which is why i didn't mind the large tip so much!

TanG411

happyoutscan wrote: »

On Cidona?

I don't drink alcohol.

A good night for me is just relaxing, playing darts in a quiet pub, and chatting to some friends.

But to get the large amount of change, I was in a busy pub. But just relaxing with friends.

PrincessLola

When I worked at a well known supermarket I had plenty of off-moments where I would accidently short-change customers. They were always quick to point it out tho :pac: tbh it was more me being absent minded then any devious intent! But I also had a women who insisted over and over that I had short changed her 50 euro, even running to the manager complaining about me; we checked the cameras and i had infact given her the correct 50 euro change, she didn't even apologize, she just walked out of the shop.:(

Princess Peach

I was in a bar last week, drink cost €10, gave the barman a €20 and he handed me back €40!

Highlight of my life!

ilovesleep

Rosicky7 wrote: »

I gave a tenner to a barman for a Cidona.

Got back €47.80.

Suffice to say, I walked away pleased.
Maybe I'm the reason the country is in such turmoil? If that's the case, I can understand the politicians/bankers/above-average Joe taking bonuses.

I had a good night anyway.

I once handed in 5euro for a 2euro take away coffee at a petrol station and got 48euro change back. Was a very broke student at the time. was a good week.

falan

Reminds me of a few months ago i went into Centra. Was at the till paying for stuff when there was another member of staff passing and she pointed at 10 euro on the ground 6ft away from me and asked did i drop it? There was no way it could of been mine but i just said thanks and scooped it up and out the door i went....:)

On the other hand, i was in Manchester airport in August, went into a cafe. My order came to £4.88. I handed her £5 and she gave me back £5.12p. I was feeling honest so pointed out her mistake and gave her back the fiver. She gave a face like this, followed by a face like this:D

GhostInTheRuins

ilovesleep wrote: »

I once handed in 5euro for a 2euro take away coffee at a petrol station and got 48euro change back. Was a very broke student at the time. was a good week.

Princess Peach wrote: »

I was in a bar last week, drink cost €10, gave the barman a €20 and he handed me back €40!

Highlight of my life!

Remmy wrote: »

I gave a barmen twenty euro for two pints of guiness once and got back the twenty and some change.He probablly thought I gave him a tenner or something.

Rosicky7 wrote: »

I gave a tenner to a barman for a Cidona.

Got back €47.80.

Suffice to say, I walked away pleased.
Maybe I'm the reason the country is in such turmoil? If that's the case, I can understand the politicians/bankers/above-average Joe taking bonuses.

I had a good night anyway.

Am I the only person that's stupid enough to give back money when I get too much change?

Princess Peach

I'd give the money back in a shop, or a small pub. This was a loud obnoxious night club that were robbing me blind with the price of drinks anyway!

dan185

Kimono-Girl wrote: »

its easy to confuse money i did it last week in our local, i ordered a bottle of coke, paid €5 and because it was busy i told him keep the change since it was only a euro or two, he looked at me all shocked and was like "are you sure?" so i said yes and went back to my friends, only when i got home i realized i had the €5 in my wallet and my €20 was gone....

so he got a decent tip anyway

4 quid for a bottle of coke:eek:

deanswift

HayleyLyons1 wrote: »

Seems to be a epidemic of this behaviour going on at the minute. Was attempted on me twice yesterday, and once on Christmas Eve. Spoke to a couple of friends and a similar thing happened to them.

Seems like more than "innocent mistakes", funny enough have yet to be given more change than I was due.

Do barmen think they can fleece the drunken reveller?

Name them and shame them or STFU

Big Pussy Bonpensiero

I got sacked for doing this too much (well, this and handing out too many free drinks).. Made like 50 quid a night though so I wasnt too bothered:p! Its so easy in a club.. Some of the lads are fcuking pros at it! A friend once made 200 quid one night, needless to say he got the sack not long after too, far too many complaints... Went on a nice holiday to Napa not long after tho, so he probably wasnt too bothered either..:p

Aussie Sean

Princess Peach wrote: »

I'd give the money back in a shop, or a small pub. This was a loud obnoxious night club that were robbing me blind with the price of drinks anyway!

Didn't you choose to go to said loud obnoxious night club????

Sean

Princess Peach

Aussie Sean wrote: »

Didn't you choose to go to said loud obnoxious night club????

Sean

No, friends dragged me there! They agreed to leave after the 3rd random guy came up and asked me why I had a murderous look on my face :pac:

True story!

garv123

i over charged someone by mistake lastnight and he copped it and so did i because i put port into the till in a rush instead of dash of port and he wanted a receipt so i got it for him.
then i put in dash port and hit 3.20 (price of port) and then gave him the change and then he wanted a receipt for that. still didnt think i was right and wanted a receipt for the origional list so id to type out the list of drinks and cash it off and print a receipt for him and then write about 2 fecking notes in the till of what was done to balance. the fella just wanted to be stubborn and ignorant even when he knew he was wrong and his changed balanced the 2nd receipt he still wanted more.

i myself never short changed anyone on purpose, i get more tips when i dont

Lia_lia

I work in a bar. Sometimes when it's very busy I do genuinely give out the wrong change by mistake. Like sometimes if someone hands me a 50 I don't really look at it properly and mistake it for a ten. But this rarely happens and a apologise when it's pointed out to me.

Joe7

Lia_lia wrote: »

I work in a bar. Sometimes when it's very busy I do genuinely give out the wrong change by mistake. Like sometimes if someone hands me a 50 I don't really look at it properly and mistake it for a ten. . .

It doesn't feel like a tenner, what would you get for that in a bar anyway?

BigBenRoeth

Its not just pubs this is happening in now,Bianca Jackson short changed me there the day before xmas eve

johnn

THFC wrote: »

I got sacked for doing this too much (well, this and handing out too many free drinks).. Made like 50 quid a night though so I wasnt too bothered:p! Its so easy in a club.. Some of the lads are fcuking pros at it! A friend once made 200 quid one night, needless to say he got the sack not long after too, far too many complaints... Went on a nice holiday to Napa not long after tho, so he probably wasnt too bothered either..:p

You are what is wrong with this country :rolleyes:

EuskalHerria

Working in a busy nightclub it has happened where I've accidently given someone the wrong change often only mixing up the note and instaly making sure all is right, but would never consider doing it on purpose. Bar staff have a responsibility to serve people who have been drinking honestly and most do but as in all walks of life your going to find chancers, both sides of the bar. When I go out I always ask how much the drinks are, generally will stop any dodgy staff trying anything.

maxxie

Princess Peach wrote: »

I'd give the money back in a shop, or a small pub. This was a loud obnoxious night club that were robbing me blind with the price of drinks anyway!

But that barmans till will then be down at the end of the night! Which he may have to pay back himself!

maxxie

deanswift wrote: »

Name them and shame them or STFU

Dandelion :eek:

Degag

Joe7 wrote: »

It doesn't feel like a tenner, what would you get for that in a bar anyway?

WTF!! It doesn't feel like a tenner? It's not like barstaff have to use all their 5 senses to identify a banknote! Also, in my pub you can get three pints for less than €11.

johnn

Most barmen in town empty the contents of the trays under the taps into pint glasses near the end of the night and start offloading them on the drunkest customers, then keep their money rather than charge it to the til, they're making a fortune off it. Scum :rolleyes:

mann

For some reason I keep mistaking the €20 for a €5 note… so I’m in my local and the girl serving me gives me the change of a €20 when I thought I had given her a €5 note… 3 times I said to her that I only gave her €5 and 3 times she said it was a €20 in the end she took it back saying she would check the till at end of shift,

This happened me twice on different occasions in the same bar with different bar tenders… reason I gave it back is because I knew that if they’re till was down at the end of the night that the money the till was down would be taken from they’re wage’s,

What made me cop on was weeks later I said to my nephew “ Here’s a fiver for you” he pointed out that it was a €20

Then later that evening I gave an honest barman from a different pub what I thought was two €5 notes for 2 pints and he pointed out that I had given him a €20 and a €5 to pay an €8 bill,

Now I wasn’t drunk when any of these transactions went on but I was really pissed when I thought about the other staff not giving me my money back when they later checked they’re tills to find they were up money, :mad:

Mug of the year or what

johnn

mann wrote: »

For some reason I keep mistaking the €20 for a €5 note… so I’m in my local and the girl serving me gives me the change of a €20 when I thought I had given her a €5 note… 3 times I said to her that I only gave her €5 and 3 times she said it was a €20 in the end she took it back saying she would check the till at end of shift,

This happened me twice on different occasions in the same bar with different bar tenders… reason I gave it back is because I knew that if they’re till was down at the end of the night that the money the till was down would be taken from they’re wage’s,

What made me cop on was weeks later I said to my nephew “ Here’s a fiver for you” he pointed out that it was a €20

Then later that evening I gave an honest barman from a different pub what I thought was two €5 notes for 2 pints and he pointed out that I had given him a €20 and a €5 to pay an €8 bill,

Now I wasn’t drunk when any of these transactions went on but I was really pissed when I thought about the other staff not giving me my money back when they later checked they’re tills to find they were up money, :mad:

Mug of the year or what

This is the man to get us out of this Recession.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

CorkMan wrote: »

If there were no cameras in the place he would have got pulled over the counter by me and have recieving a big thumping. Plus I would take my change from the register.

Oh lol...

Degag

johnn wrote: »

Most barmen in town empty the contents of the trays under the taps into pint glasses near the end of the night and start offloading them on the drunkest customers, then keep their money rather than charge it to the til, they're making a fortune off it. Scum :rolleyes:

I would doubt it tbh.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

maxxie wrote: »

Dandelion :eek:

That place is an over priced hole.

johnn wrote: »

Most barmen in town empty the contents of the trays under the taps into pint glasses near the end of the night and start offloading them on the drunkest customers, then keep their money rather than charge it to the til, they're making a fortune off it. Scum :rolleyes:

This is bull****...

How do people come up with this crap?

garv123

johnn wrote: »

Most barmen in town empty the contents of the trays under the taps into pint glasses near the end of the night and start offloading them on the drunkest customers, then keep their money rather than charge it to the til, they're making a fortune off it. Scum :rolleyes:

them drip trays are the messiest things ever to empty into a mop bucket when washing them not to mind a point glass.
that post is so much B**LOX

and did the other customers stand there watching him do this and not complain eh? or did he suddenly disappear with it behind closed doors and came out again with the tray empty and a full pint? and guinness would make beer go a dirty colour in it too.

complete bullsh!t