Should atheists & non-practising Catholics be allowed to celebrate Christmas?

Johnny Utah

It seems to me that the true meaning of Christmas is lost on some people. Should atheists and non-practising Catholics be allowed to partake in festive celebrations, attend mass on Christmas day, receive presents and have days off work, even though they clearly have no belief in God/religion?

If so, seems quite hypocritical to me.

DrumSteve

Kill em all that's what I say.

Adyx

What about other Christians? Should they be allowed celebrate what was originally a pagan festival?

Adam

cop on

Caoimhín

It was a midwinter festival long before the christians hijacked it. So yes, i will be celebrating the mid-winter party with lots of port and food however i wont be attending the temple.

Biggins

Johnny Utah wrote: »

It seems to me that the true meaning of Christmas is lost on some people. Should atheists and non-practising Catholics be allowed to partake in festive celebrations, attend mass on Christmas day, receive presents and have days off work, even though they clearly have no belief in God/religion?

If so, seems quite hypocritical to me.

Baa humbug!

John_Rambo

Johnny Utah wrote: »

If so, seems quite hypocritical to me.

We were celebrating it along time before you. (without a money collection) I presume you won't be carrying out our traditions, decorating tree's, present giving, using mistletoe and holly? I certainly won't be visiting your church!

Happy winter solstice everyone.

Black Dog

Catholics are hardly in a position to call others hypocrites. Priests and child abuse spring to mind.

pikachucheeks

Christmas is pretty much more about the commercial side of things than anything else these days.

jimthemental

Nothing for some, miniature Christmas trees and afterlife for others. :rolleyes:

Jesus Wept

lol. I hope you are just trolling and not this silly.
I'm celebrating the feast of maximum occupancy this holiday season.

Daith

I don't know what religion has to do with Santa?

bonerm

I don't celebrate Christmas. I celebrate Cokemas. (the two are very similar in appearance).

dlofnep

Allowed to celebrate Christmas? Who's going to stop me? A pedophile priest?

"Oi! Put that present down and suck my cock!"

jester77

Are you saying that Santa Claus should only visit Catholics??

Get out of it... I bet you those 3 wise men that visited Santa were not even Catholics!

maximoose

Johnny Utah wrote: »

It seems to me that the true meaning of Christmas is lost on some people. Should atheists and non-practising Catholics be allowed to partake in festive celebrations, attend mass on Christmas day, receive presents and have days off work, even though they clearly have no belief in God/religion?

If so, seems quite hypocritical to me.

Christmas hasn't had any real religious meaning for decades

now go and f*ck yourself

Paparazzo

Take away Jesus and going to mass for them. And leave the non Christian bits like Santa, Christmas trees, presents and the rest of the non Christian parts to the atheists. Obviously mass goers can't use the non Christian bits. Police will make unannounced calls to houses to police it. Brilliant idea op.

orourkeda

Johnny Utah wrote: »

It seems to me that the true meaning of Christmas is lost on some people. Should atheists and non-practising Catholics be allowed to partake in festive celebrations, attend mass on Christmas day, receive presents and have days off work, even though they clearly have no belief in God/religion?

If so, seems quite hypocritical to me.

Why would they bother celebrating something they don't believe in. Seems pointless.

phill106

Do non-christians refuse a christmas bonus?

TheIrishGrover

ALLOWED!!!???!!! :mad:

To me Cristmas is a time of giving thanks for your friends and family and even strangers and appreciating which seems to be pretty much what every religion preaches but few, if ANY practice.

Jesus Wept

You are thinking of thanksgiving grover.

Lumen

Johnny Utah wrote: »

Should atheists and non-practising Catholics be allowed to partake in festive celebrations, attend mass on Christmas day, receive presents and have days off work, even though they clearly have no belief in God/religion?

Tell you what: I'll do all that stuff and you can feel guilty for me.

Minstrel27

Johnny Utah wrote: »

It seems to me that the true meaning of Christmas is lost on some people. Should atheists and non-practising Catholics be allowed to partake in festive celebrations, attend mass on Christmas day, receive presents and have days off work, even though they clearly have no belief in God/religion?

If so, seems quite hypocritical to me.

I shall be celebrating my few days off from work with copious amounts of food and ale.

phill106 wrote: »

Do non-christians refuse a christmas bonus?

A Christmas bonus? Been a while since I have seen one of those.

senordingdong

Xmas = peados only.

prinz

Johnny Utah wrote: »

It seems to me that the true meaning of Christmas is lost on some people. Should atheists and non-practising Catholics be allowed to partake in festive celebrations, attend mass on Christmas day, receive presents and have days off work, even though they clearly have no belief in God/religion? If so, seems quite hypocritical to me.

Are you trying to tell me I should stop giving presents to atheists and other non-Christians?

BigDuffman

If I remember my primary school, religious brainwashing. Your Jewish Zombie wizzard king, who is his own father. Had some angel have sex with his mother so he could be born. You guys go and chant in a temple and then eat parts of his body and blood to celebrate him being born and dying?

Fair enough, doesn't sound like my type of party. Tell ya what why dont you lot not "allow" us to go to your worship temple. We'll sit at home with our "Festive Dinners" and open our presents around the "festive tree" and get smashed.

bronte

You wouldn't be advising the use of artificial contraception now would you Father?

It's an excuse to skive off work to spend time with the ones youj love. Go f*ck yourself Utah.

If you don't like it, raise an army and try to kill the infidels.

Emphasis on try.

TheIrishGrover

The-Rigger wrote: »

You are thinking of thanksgiving grover.

Well I'm Irish and living in Ireland so I don't celebrate thanksgiving but as corny as it sounds I think Christmas is a time of giving and peace to all men. Sure it's hung around a Christian festival just as Christmas timing itself is timed around a pagan festival. OP I appologise if I came across a bit harsh but it was just the word "Allowed" that set me off. I think people of any or no religion should be able to celebrate the Christmas period as the see fit (Apart maybe from that Thugee Cult but Indy sorted them out )

Pherekydes

OP is making the mistake of associating a real entity, namely Jesus of Nazareth, with someone who doesn't exist, namely God.

Yes, we can celebrate giving and a Christian charitableness at Christmas without having to believe in God.

jimthemental

I think Christmas is needed because it gives a schedule to the year, be it personally or for business you start anew when you come back. Everyone needs a collective break in the year also and it is a healthy thing to look forward to during the last few dark months of the year. Even if there were no religious implications I think that the holiday atmosphere should be open to everyone.

Ah man - you're stopping me from celebrating a pagan festival and also by receiving presents from a character that was coloured in by Coca-Cola.

Actually screw it - I'm going to celebrate Hanukkah. Those chocolate coins are delicious.

Apanachi

If they want to, why not? if you're going to go down that road of stopping people celebrate things that have nothing to do with their beliefs/ancestory etc... , then you'd have to ban St. Patrick's Day & Hallowe'en in the US

Now what I do find a Big pain in the ar$e, a (catholic) colleague of mine has to work Christmas (AGAIN!!!) this year, because another muslim colleague wants to have Christmas off (AGAIN!!!) - even though he doesn't celebrate Christmas at all

Plazaman

You're right OP, segregation is the only way to stop those pesky atheists enjoying themselves at Christmas. I say use the Aviva Stadium to lock them in there for Christmas Eve to Stephens Day with Militia patrolling to ensure no fun is had. That'll teach them. Cheek of them drinking our beer and opening our presents (must be some form of blood test to check for the atheist gene).

dr.bollocko

Cut out the personal stuff from here on out please folks. Everyone be telling everyong to go and f*ck themselves. No need for it. In fact if ye all f*cked each other we might spread a little happiness. Christian or no.
(ie missionary or anal apparently.)

NothingMan

Christmas OP or Xmas?

Where X = The square root of the sum of the hypotenuse devided by 4 y to the power of 7.

That's what I celebrate.

It's a disgusting sentiment that because you don't have the flag of Christianity or whatever, you should be shut out, excluded, left out of the celebrations.

It's something at the top of the slippery slope of bigotry (down at the bottom being getting shot for blasphemy).

I oppose vehemently the idea that "YOU ZALL BEH CRISSTIN OR YU ZALL OT SELEBRATE ZE CRISSTIN FESTIVAL! NO PREZZIES FOR YU PAGAN!

(I got an infraction for the go f......ly off a cliff comment)

dr.bollocko

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Cut out the personal stuff from here on out please folks. Everyone be telling everyong to go and f*ck themselves. No need for it. In fact if ye all f*cked each other we might spread a little happiness. Christian or no.
(ie missionary or anal apparently.)

Actually I believe in procreational racial deconstruction - we just keep f*cking until we're all the same colour.

Coriolanus

Dunno bout the. Rest of you but I'm celebrating saturnalia.

Yakult

Johnny Utah wrote: »

It seems to me that the true meaning of Christmas is lost on some people.

Yeah... Look around you, its nothing but a commercial holiday that gets milked. Alot of people including ye ole high and mighty christians (:rolleyes:) dont celebrate the true meaning of it anymore.

Pace2008

Johnny Utah wrote: »

It seems to me that the true meaning of Christmas is lost on some people. Should atheists and non-practising Catholics be allowed to partake in festive celebrations, attend mass on Christmas day, receive presents and have days off work, even though they clearly have no belief in God/religion?

If so, seems quite hypocritical to me.

As you know very well, Christmas has long ago transcended being the celebration of an arbitrary date attributed as the birth of Christ. It is what the people make it, and it's their prerogative to celebrate it as they see fit1.

Obvious contrarian is obvious.

achtungbarry

OP, answer me this:

Will you be partaking in the non christian aspects of Christmas such as putting up a christmas tree, eating turkey and ham for dinner, exchanging gifts, doing the whole Santa thing with the kids etc?

If so, is it not you being the hypocrite?

Rabies

Johnny Utah wrote: »

It seems to me that the true meaning of Christmas is lost on some people. Should atheists and non-practising Catholics be allowed to partake in festive celebrations, attend mass on Christmas day, receive presents and have days off work, even though they clearly have no belief in God/religion?

If so, seems quite hypocritical to me.

We don't attend mass.
To us its day with the family and give presents. Its not about religion.
You don't have to be catholic to give gifts on a certain day of the year.

Adam

op is fail

/unfollow

Now come on, not all of us completely throw out the Baby Jeebus side of Christmas. I'm a beleiver (yes I could be wrong, but I don't ferickin care!). We're not all atheists y'know.

But you have every right to celebrate Christmas as you see fit. You have no rigth to dictate to others how they should or shouldn't celebrate.

topper75

Nevore wrote: »

Dunno bout the. Rest of you but I'm celebrating saturnalia.

So your craic is over tomorrow then according to wikipedia?

Saturnalia was introduced around [217 BC] to raise citizen morale after a crushing military defeat at the hands of the Carthaginians.[1] Originally celebrated for a day, on December 17, its popularity saw it grow until it became a week-long extravaganza, ending on the 23rd. Efforts to shorten the celebration were unsuccessful. Augustus tried to reduce it to three days, and Caligula to five. These attempts caused uproar and massive revolts among the Roman citizens.

Kwanzaa is where it's at.

MagicSean

You can't have it both ways. Either Christmas is a public holiday which is open to everyone or it is a religious holiday, in which case you should work through it.

sensibleken

Christians should only be celebrated by christians mid summer when JC was actually born

sipstrassi

If you can organise that Christmas is removed from everywhere but your churches then fair enough, I'll have nothing to do with it.

Thanks in advance.

pablomakaveli

Deleted User wrote: »

Actually I believe in procreational racial deconstruction - we just keep f*cking until we're all the same colour.

I call all the asian women.:D