Pacman vs. Mosley -April 16th 2011

Wild_Dogger

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-7C3AuFv4I

I'm going to let you in on a little something here .......
Start saving now , let's say a 10'er a week and stick it all on Mosley to win by KO .

Im giving ye all plenty of notice .

This one's happening ..... I got that 'gut' feeling .

digme

I'll believe it when i see it on betfair.

MD1990

pac man will win easily

pbffan

digme wrote: »

I'll believe it when i see it on betfair.

Betfair had Mayweather-Pacquiao up last year

gene_tunney

Pointless fight.

All that would happen is Pac would send Mosley into retirement after a one-sided beating. Mosley slurs his words already, he doesn't need this.

Hope it doesn't happen. Doubt it will.

Jayob10

Oh i'd well believe it will happen. It will be Bob Arum's way of showing his fighter can put Mosley away quicker than Floyd can.

Hope this fight doesn't happen

weemcd

For Shane's health I hope this fight doesn't get made, he's the type of fighter who takes shots all night, never goes down, never gives up. Tremendous heart, but he took a prolonged beating from Mayweather, the power in those shots cannot be questioned, Mayweather hits hard and he hits accurate. Aside from catching Mayweather early in the second, he was chasing him the rest of the fight unable to land, now Pacman does get hit, he is not an elusive fighter but what he lacks in that he will make up with a barrage of punches that will devour Mosley, who isn't terribly difficult to hit at this age. His only advantages I could see would be Naaz in his corner who I presume would be his trainer, his power which I would say is better than Pac, his height and reach advantages mean nothing as a much younger Margarito who is essentially the same size, failed to utilise his bigger frame in a hugely one sided beat down. Look at Cotto, Pac battered him to force a stoppage, while Mosley lost a Unanimous decision. This fight is about 5 years too late for Shane.

colly10

Mosley was one of my favorite fighters, he's totally shot now though. I'm hoping this fight doesn't happen, Mosley's going to take a serious beating if it does

siochain

sad news.....

Wild_Dogger

Mosley round 4 .

Selling the family silver

nacho libre

sorry odd-job, but pacman is only taking this fight because Mosley is on the slide.

Wild_Dogger

1 more left in him ?

nacho libre

Wild_Dogger wrote: »

1 more left in him ?

I guess we'll find out. it would be very impressive if he pulls it off. if he does manage to catch pacman cleanly, i'm not sure pacman will be able to take it.

CorkMan

nacho libre wrote: »

I guess we'll find out. it would be very impressive if he pulls it off. if he does manage to catch pacman cleanly, i'm not sure pacman will be able to take it.

Or else Pacquiao will just "applaude" him.

Wild_Dogger

Shane Mosley's like a mongoose

strobe

Wild_Dogger wrote: »

Shane Mosley's like a mongoose

Very short life span?

emergingstar

This fight was made offical this morning.

Im fed up with pac-man his last two fights were a disgrace

an average clottley and a washed up magaritto, now mosley

Its clear too see that top rank are feeding him oppenets who have been shot for a year or 2 beforehand.

Only last year Bob Arum said mosely was too old and too slow to fight pac-man, but now he is the perfect choice, What has changed?

Clearly the only fight out there was marquez, and he has been pushing for it, Why didnt pac-man accept?

Just on a side note top rank only agreed too this fight if mosely agreed to drug testing, bit rich that coming from them.

walshb

Mosley will feel 75 yrs old in there with Manny. Brutal win for Manny.

megadodge

emergingstar wrote: »

This fight was made offical this morning.

Im fed up with pac-man his last two fights were a disgrace

an average clottley and a washed up magaritto, now mosley

Its clear too see that top rank are feeding him oppenets who have been shot for a year or 2 beforehand.

Only last year Bob Arum said mosely was too old and too slow to fight pac-man, but now he is the perfect choice, What has changed?

Clearly the only fight out there was marquez, and he has been pushing for it, Why didnt pac-man accept?

Just on a side note top rank only agreed too this fight if mosely agreed to drug testing, bit rich that coming from them.

So, a former FLYWEIGHT world champion taking on and hammering two very big WELTERWEIGHTS despite being nowhere near the weight limit - because he's that small - is now a "disgrace"?

Mosely is too old. I agree. He should have retired a few years ago. But he's not slow. And the only reason these fights are taking place is because the ONLY fight that everyone wants to see is Mayweather.

I wonder why that fight isn't taking place?

It's about time people stopped getting on Pacman's case. He's the one that's continuing to fight, unlike the other pr*ck. He's the one that ceded to all the other pr*ck's ridiculous demands in order to actually make the fight. And what happens then, when there were no more excuses?

"I wanna take a break from boxing for a while"

So, basically after he tried to sully Pac's reputation and make him look like the reason it wasn't happening, when he could hide it no more, and finally came out and made it obvious that Floyd Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pacman, idiots still can't see that the whole drug-taking charade was just that - a pathetic, shameless, cowardly excuse to get out of fighting someone who's really a threat.

Pacman has never tested positive for drugs.
Pacman has no history of drugtaking.
Shane Mosely has.

emergingstar

Im not evern going to go into the matweather debate thats old and both sides belive there right.

I also dont think manny been a former flyweight have anything to do with him fighting washed up fighters

Manny never test positive, but he woudnt agree too the drugs test with 24 days with floydd, but he had a medical and blood taking 20 days before the clottley fight. I think he is clean but why make people have doubts

Also you just skipped the marquez point, i again think manny will win that fight but instead top rank feed him mosely. When marquez would be a much tougher and entertaining fight

foams

If Pacquiao faught Marquez it would be at 147 or something close to it and marquez would be slow and would recieve a brutal beatdown and he's probly lucky he's with golden boy and out of the picture.

paraguay99

megadodge wrote: »

So, a former FLYWEIGHT world champion taking on and hammering two very big WELTERWEIGHTS despite being nowhere near the weight limit - because he's that small - is now a "disgrace"?

Mosely is too old. I agree. He should have retired a few years ago. But he's not slow. And the only reason these fights are taking place is because the ONLY fight that everyone wants to see is Mayweather.

I wonder why that fight isn't taking place?

It's about time people stopped getting on Pacman's case. He's the one that's continuing to fight, unlike the other pr*ck. He's the one that ceded to all the other pr*ck's ridiculous demands in order to actually make the fight. And what happens then, when there were no more excuses?

"I wanna take a break from boxing for a while"

So, basically after he tried to sully Pac's reputation and make him look like the reason it wasn't happening, when he could hide it no more, and finally came out and made it obvious that Floyd Mayweather doesn't want to fight Pacman, idiots still can't see that the whole drug-taking charade was just that - a pathetic, shameless, cowardly excuse to get out of fighting someone who's really a threat.

Pacman has never tested positive for drugs.
Pacman has no history of drugtaking.
Shane Mosely has.

Show me where Pacman agreed to blood testing all the way up to the fight. He didn't.

Why didn't he originally agree to it? Why did he say he was scared of needles when he has plenty of tattoos?

makl

manny floyd blood n drugs money has recently been discussed to death. not again!

davedaly7532

absolutely farcical that this can be made, what about berto whose unbeaten and young. Although hes overrated, at least there'd be some interest to see if he can step up to the mark.

darced

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djhaxman

darced wrote: »

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No chance imo - he'll get beaten worse than against Mayweather.

Pointless fight.

colly10

paraguay99 wrote: »

Why did he say he was scared of needles when he has plenty of tattoos?

This **** again :rolleyes:
It has nothing to do with needles and everything to do with getting blood drawn close to a fight.

He had his blood drawn close to the Morales fight and lost, he said he feels that he was affected by having blood drawn. Yes thats irrational, but thats what he said he believes. After all the talk about this and we're still hearing the tattoo's and needles line I wonder if people actually read up on the whole thing properly rather than reading 2 lines of crap and saying yep guilty

colly10

davedaly7532 wrote: »

absolutely farcical that this can be made, what about berto whose unbeaten and young. Although hes overrated, at least there'd be some interest to see if he can step up to the mark.

Neither are a contest but I have to agree, would rather see a berto fight. The ideal would be Marquez at 140

darced wrote: »

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Was my favorite fighter but he's shot to bits, was wrecked before the 4th against Mayweather

emergingstar

colly10 wrote: »

This **** again :rolleyes:
It has nothing to do with needles and everything to do with getting blood drawn close to a fight.

He had his blood drawn close to the Morales fight and lost, he said he feels that he was affected by having blood drawn. Yes thats irrational, but thats what he said he believes. After all the talk about this and we're still hearing the tattoo's and needles line I wonder if people actually read up on the whole thing properly rather than reading 2 lines of crap and saying yep guilty

But he had blood drawn 20 days before the clottley fight for a medical check

colly10

emergingstar wrote: »

But he had blood drawn 20 days before the clottley fight for a medical check

There's a world of difference between doing something that you believe affects you the day before a fight compared to 20 days before a fight.

If I tell you that you have a fight in 20 days and the guy your up against is damn good. Now I give you the option of staying up till 6 in the morning today or the day before the fight it goes without saying which one you'd choose.

He's not "afraid" of having blood drawn if that what your getting at, he's afraid of having it drawn before a fight as he feels it will affect performance.

emergingstar

I think he is clean all im saying is he wouldnt agree to a deadline of 24 days and then he had it 20 days before his next fight.

Mayweather and pac-man wont happen anytime soon for whatever reason. pac-man pulled out the first time and mayweather the second time.

What's pissinig me off is this fight with mosely, he is washed up. Pac-man should have took on marquez at 140 thats the only fight left out there for him.

But for some reason bob arum keeps giving him washed up fighters say what ya like about weight, this will be his 3rd fight against either a limited fighter or a washed up one

digme

What about cintron?I'd love to see that fight.

Benny Lava

Fights between big names are supposed to excite you, but this one most certainly doesn't. I dread the thought of old man Mosley trying to keep up with Speedy Gonzalez who will invariably be peppering him with every shot in the book. Mosley is a good, genuine guy who has had a great career with some standout wins. It will be sad to see him getting beaten into submission. It was bad enough seeing the later rounds against Mayweather but it will be even worse against Pacquiao. He will be cut, bruised, banged up and stopped. He looked awful against Mora and had nothing left after two rounds against Mayweather. How could anyone think he has a chance to beat Pacquiao? This is a corrupt bit of match-making and real kick in the teeth from Bob Arum's shiny, expensive boot.

CorkMan

Benny Lava wrote: »

Fights between big names are supposed to excite you, but this one most certainly doesn't. I dread the thought of old man Mosley trying to keep up with Speedy Gonzalez who will invariably be peppering him with every shot in the book. Mosley is a good, genuine guy who has had a great career with some standout wins. It will be sad to see him getting beaten into submission. It was bad enough seeing the later rounds against Mayweather but it will be even worse against Pacquiao. He will be cut, bruised, banged up and stopped. He looked awful against Mora and had nothing left after two rounds against Mayweather. How could anyone think he has a chance to beat Pacquiao? This is a corrupt bit of match-making and real kick in the teeth from Bob Arum's shiny, expensive boot.

The only reason it is happening is becuase there is no Mayweather fight coming forth. Plus I think Top Rank thinks if Pacquiao KO's Mosley early on, Pacquiao would look far superior than Floyd, who took the decision. Pacquiao will go for the KO.

Regards Manny and Money fighting, I think Money will be getting locked up and I have my doubts whether we will see it at all.

paraguay99

colly10 wrote: »

This **** again :rolleyes:
It has nothing to do with needles and everything to do with getting blood drawn close to a fight.

He had his blood drawn close to the Morales fight and lost, he said he feels that he was affected by having blood drawn. Yes thats irrational, but thats what he said he believes. After all the talk about this and we're still hearing the tattoo's and needles line I wonder if people actually read up on the whole thing properly rather than reading 2 lines of crap and saying yep guilty

If it's not because Pacquiao is "scared of needles", then why did he say that he wasn't taking the blood tests the first time because he is scared of needles?

Imagine Usain Bolt said, "I don't like getting my blood taken, I'm not doing blood tests because I think it makes me weaker". The reason the blood tests are there is to prove you are not taking any PEDs. Whether you want to or not, you should take the tests regardless of any irrational beliefs.

Funny how Pacman fans can excuse someone from taking blood tests to prove they are not on PEDs and actually criticise a fighter for wanting to ensure that both competitors are completely clean

davedaly7532

digme wrote: »

What about cintron?I'd love to see that fight.

Cintron shouldn't be let near a ring after the dive he took against Williams. Anyway, after seeing the damage that Margarito did to Pacquiao and what it took out of him, i'd say it's unlikely he'll fight anyone coming down from above 154lbs in the future, especially someone as heavy handed as Cintron.
This is why he'll never fight Martinez as well: too dangerous.

Spazdarn

paraguay99 wrote: »

If it's not because Pacquiao is "scared of needles", then why did he say that he wasn't taking the blood tests the first time because he is scared of needles?

Imagine Usain Bolt said, "I don't like getting my blood taken, I'm not doing blood tests because I think it makes me weaker". The reason the blood tests are there is to prove you are not taking any PEDs. Whether you want to or not, you should take the tests regardless of any irrational beliefs.

Funny how Pacman fans can excuse someone from taking blood tests to prove they are not on PEDs and actually criticise a fighter for wanting to ensure that both competitors are completely clean

I don't think he ever said he was afraid of needles but he did insinuate that blood taken too close to a fight led to a bad performance (not sure if it was his last loss)

I originally thought it was just a case of posturing, Manny thinking what right does Floyd Mayweather have to decide how the drug tests are taken... He didn't attempt to clean up the sport of drugs before the possibility of a Manny fight.

His conditioning trainer said they agreed to take the tests...

Mayweather pussied out of the second round of negotiating claiming he never had anything to do with the negotiations, though he had about a month to come out and say they weren't occurring... as they had gotten a lot of media coverage up until then.

Thing is Mayweather's defense could easily be the difference between the two, but he's not willing to take the risk.


As far as Manny and Mosley go, it's not ideal. But Mosley's style will probably pose more issues to him than the last couple of guys, who were tailor made to his style. Mosley is still pretty fast, and strong enough... if he was fit enough to last more than 2 rounds, it could be interesting.

Manny is the man at the moment so taking money fights like this don't bother me, he's fought more than enough tough competitors, a Marquez fight would be class, but it won't happen at 140. Berto hasn't fought anyone of worth so I don't know where he's got the sense of entitlement...

The other choices are all tied up really... Khan is his stablemate, Mayweather's got legal troubles, Bradley and Alexander are facing each other, Sergio Martinez is too big and would probably destroy him...

Martinez would make for the most interesting fight, but he'd ultimately get beaten by a much better Manny Pacquiao than he faced before.

davedaly7532

ToiletFusion wrote: »

I don't think he ever said he was afraid of needles but he did insinuate that blood taken too close to a fight led to a bad performance (not sure if it was his last loss)

I originally thought it was just a case of posturing, Manny thinking what right does Floyd Mayweather have to decide how the drug tests are taken... He didn't attempt to clean up the sport of drugs before the possibility of a Manny fight.

His conditioning trainer said they agreed to take the tests...

Mayweather pussied out of the second round of negotiating claiming he never had anything to do with the negotiations, though he had about a month to come out and say they weren't occurring... as they had gotten a lot of media coverage up until then.

Thing is Mayweather's defense could easily be the difference between the two, but he's not willing to take the risk.


As far as Manny and Mosley go, it's not ideal. But Mosley's style will probably pose more issues to him than the last couple of guys, who were tailor made to his style. Mosley is still pretty fast, and strong enough... if he was fit enough to last more than 2 rounds, it could be interesting.

Manny is the man at the moment so taking money fights like this don't bother me, he's fought more than enough tough competitors, a Marquez fight would be class, but it won't happen at 140. Berto hasn't fought anyone of worth so I don't know where he's got the sense of entitlement...

The other choices are all tied up really... Khan is his stablemate, Mayweather's got legal troubles, Bradley and Alexander are facing each other, Sergio Martinez is too big and would probably destroy him...

Martinez would make for the most interesting fight, but he'd ultimately get beaten by a much better Manny Pacquiao than he faced before.

think you meant marquez there in your last line. I agree it wud be interesting,but only if pacquiao came down in weight which we know isn't going to happen. The reason I wud favour Berto or probably even more so Tim Bradley (provided he gets past Alexander) is that they're unbeaten and young which can't be underestimated.

walshb

If we are talking about talent, then surely a Berto, young, unbeaten and fresh, is the challenge, and not an aged and apst his peak Marquez; who has twice lost to Manny. Fights should be about the talent meeting the talent, not just mismatches and names that generate money.

paraguay99

ToiletFusion wrote: »

I don't think he ever said he was afraid of needles but he did insinuate that blood taken too close to a fight led to a bad performance (not sure if it was his last loss)

I originally thought it was just a case of posturing, Manny thinking what right does Floyd Mayweather have to decide how the drug tests are taken... He didn't attempt to clean up the sport of drugs before the possibility of a Manny fight.

His conditioning trainer said they agreed to take the tests...

Mayweather pussied out of the second round of negotiating claiming he never had anything to do with the negotiations, though he had about a month to come out and say they weren't occurring... as they had gotten a lot of media coverage up until then.

Thing is Mayweather's defense could easily be the difference between the two, but he's not willing to take the risk.


As far as Manny and Mosley go, it's not ideal. But Mosley's style will probably pose more issues to him than the last couple of guys, who were tailor made to his style. Mosley is still pretty fast, and strong enough... if he was fit enough to last more than 2 rounds, it could be interesting.

Manny is the man at the moment so taking money fights like this don't bother me, he's fought more than enough tough competitors, a Marquez fight would be class, but it won't happen at 140. Berto hasn't fought anyone of worth so I don't know where he's got the sense of entitlement...

The other choices are all tied up really... Khan is his stablemate, Mayweather's got legal troubles, Bradley and Alexander are facing each other, Sergio Martinez is too big and would probably destroy him...

Martinez would make for the most interesting fight, but he'd ultimately get beaten by a much better Manny Pacquiao than he faced before.

Its well known and an undisputed fact that the first excuse to come out of Pacquiaos mouth was that he was scared of needles.

He has never agreed to have random tests done up to the fight. Never. When he comes out and agrees to random tests all the way to the day of the fight, then we will be able to judge Floyds reaction.

What Pacquiao has done in the past few years has a LOT of people thinking he is on something. He refuses to prove he isn't though and looks like he has something to hide until he completely 100% agrees to the tests.

If Usain Bolt never had a random blood test before his Olympic wins, he would be questioned because he had achieved something so remarkable. Pacman has been achieving things that no other boxer has ever done and in spite of mounting claims that he is on PEDs, he refuses to take random tests which says it all for me.

Spazdarn

Manny also said if the commission decided to change the rules on drug testing he'd comply... but they haven't. Manny passed all the drugs tests he's been given, he shouldn't have to take extra drugs tests simply because "Floyd says so". Floyd is hardly clean as a whistle considering it's said by many that he's used Lidocaine-Xylocaine on his fists... which is deemed illegal in some states.

Manny vs Marquez at 140 would be the fight, but I don't see him wavering, it's the run of things now, it's the challengers that should be breaking their backs for a fight with him, a fight with Manny is a payday.

Berto is young and has a great record, but his record is riddled with knockouts of frankly **** boxers, his last fight was terrible. He's fast, very fast but he's flawed, Manny would school him too.

He's not going to look good regardless...

Manny wins against Marquez, it's because of the weight. He's a 147 pounder now and they were saying even during the Margarito fight that they wouldn't go lower than 147.

Manny beats Berto, and he gets slaughtered for the fact Berto has beaten no one of worth.

Manny beats Mosley and he's beaten a nigh on ancient boxer.

Personally I'd have preferred to see him face Paul Williams, Williams is big, but could make welterweight, he ticks the African American box! And he has a long reach and a good punch output that none of the previous fighters had...

That would have been an unreal fight... until Martinez destroyed him

colly10

digme wrote: »

What about cintron?I'd love to see that fight.

Cintron makes Berto seem well known and many of those that do know of him know him for crying in the ring/jumping out of the ring.
I found the Cintron Williams rounds hard to score, way too much of a risky fight when you take into account he'll get less than zero credit for it, Cintron managed a draw with Martinez in 09

Edit: I didn't get to see the Cintron v Martinez fight, just reading up on it now -

. Martinez tagged him with a very hard left hand in the seventh and it sent Cintron down on the mat. Cintron thought the punch was actually a clash of heads and stayed down as the referee appeared to count to ten and the bell rang to close the seventh. It appeared that the fight was called by the referee, and was over for a few minutes, with all sorts of confusion in the ring. Then it was restarted with the fight going into the eight round.

Thats another good reason, he's a clown, his fights tend to involve drama and not in a good way

colly10

paraguay99 wrote: »

If it's not because Pacquiao is "scared of needles", then why did he say that he wasn't taking the blood tests the first time because he is scared of needles?

Scared of needles/doesn't like to get blood taken the day before a fight, you know that English isn't his first language right? Out of interest have you got any quote of him saying he's scared of needles

paraguay99 wrote: »

Funny how Pacman fans can excuse someone from taking blood tests to prove they are not on PEDs and actually criticise a fighter for wanting to ensure that both competitors are completely clean

Well he has agreed to give a blood test straight after the fight. Why would a guy on PED's give blood test straight after the fight?
And why would Floyd refuse that offer, would it be because the blood tests are more for physiological warfare than anything to do with PED's?

paraguay99

colly10 wrote: »

Scared of needles/doesn't like to get blood taken the day before a fight, you know that English isn't his first language right? Out of interest have you got any quote of him saying he's scared of needles



Well he has agreed to give a blood test straight after the fight. Why would a guy on PED's give blood test straight after the fight?
And why would Floyd refuse that offer, would it be because the blood tests are more for physiological warfare than anything to do with PED's?

You must not have been following the saga if you are disputing that he said he was scared of needles at the start.

As for the blood test after the fight, who is going to enforce that? What if Pacman just doesn't want to take one after the fight. After the fight, the damage is done and people will remember what happened in the fight, not the controversy of Pacman feeling too "tired/drained" afterwards to give blood. There is no guarantee that he would give the blood after the fight.

We are not talking about great quantities of blood for a sample. It's a few mls, a very small amount.

Fact is, Pacman won't agree to random blood testing up to the day of the fight and THAT is why the fight won't happen.

colly10

paraguay99 wrote: »

You must not have been following the saga if you are disputing that he said he was scared of needles at the start

Been following it since the start, again have you any direct quote?

paraguay99 wrote: »

As for the blood test after the fight, who is going to enforce that?

Thats what the contract is for isn't it, you put in a stipulation that he pays 20m if he refuses to do the test after the fight.

paraguay99 wrote: »

Fact is, Pacman won't agree to random blood testing up to the day of the fight and THAT is why the fight won't happen.

Funny that Floyd never mentioned that last time around, considering it's supposed to be the main reason you'd think he'd give it a mention. He gave 2 reasons why he wouldn't take the fight -

1. I want to spend more time with my family
2. I need a break from boxing, i'm not fighting again this year.

In this case if you want direct quotes, no problem. I'd be fairly sure that you know that those are the reasons he gave though, you just choose to ignore them

paraguay99

colly10 wrote: »

Been following it since the start, again have you any direct quote?



Thats what the contract is for isn't it, you put in a stipulation that he pays 20m if he refuses to do the test after the fight.



Funny that Floyd never mentioned that last time around, considering it's supposed to be the main reason you'd think he'd give it a mention. He gave 2 reasons why he wouldn't take the fight -

1. I want to spend more time with my family
2. I need a break from boxing, i'm not fighting again this year.

In this case if you want direct quotes, no problem. I'd be fairly sure that you know that those are the reasons he gave though, you just choose to ignore them

lol, im not sad enough to go searching for quotes mate, if you want to find one go ahead. I've been following the saga from the start and you are probably the only person who will say that that excuse never came from the Pacquiao camp.

Floyd always said if he does the tests the fight will happen. Listen to his interview after the Mosley fight, "I just want to ensure that we are on an equal playing field, that's all I ask". It's hilarious how Pacquiao fans can criticize Floyd for simply wanting to ensure that both fighters are on an equal playing field and 100% clean. I really find it hilarious

The fight could have happened last year but pacquiao refused to take random blood tests up to the day of the fight. He continues to do so, and as a result, the fight hasn't happened.

It's really that simple. If he agrees to take the tests all the way to the day of the fight (show me a quote where he has agreed to do that), then we can judge Floyds response.

Mayweather is convinced he is on some performance enhancers. And if I was convinced my potential opponent was on performance enhancers, I'd refuse to fight him unless he was willing to prove he wasn't. Really, it's common sense and again its hilarious how Pacquiao fans can excuse that.

As for the 20million stipulation that he takes the blood test after the fight.. thats still no guarantee whatsoever, 20 million is nothing to Pacquiao. his entire reputation and career would be down the drain if he tested positive. Offer him 100million to give a blood test that he knows is going to turn in positive and I guarantee he would turn it down. He doesn't need much money to live like a king in the phillipines and already has a very highly paid job over there anyway.

maxxie

Pacquaio has met all the criteria set by the governing body!

Who does mayweather think he is demanding more blood tests closer to fight night. But it cant be said that manny did not agree in the end!

There hasnt been a word out of mayweather in months, he doesnt want it!
His own father said he doesnt want his son to face manny in an interview on eastside boxing.

paraguay99

maxxie wrote: »

Pacquaio has met all the criteria set by the governing body!

Who does mayweather think he is demanding more blood tests closer to fight night. But it cant be said that manny did not agree in the end!

There hasnt been a word out of mayweather in months, he doesnt want it!
His own father said he doesnt want his son to face manny in an interview on eastside boxing.

Shane Mosley met all the criteria of the governing body and yet he was on steroids all along. He never got caught by the governing body either. The only reason why he was caught was because he admitted it.

There is a difference between a urine test and a blood test...

maxxie

paraguay99 wrote: »

Shane Mosley met all the criteria of the governing body and yet he was on steroids all along. He never got caught by the governing body either. The only reason why he was caught was because he admitted it.

There is a difference between a urine test and a blood test...

Pacquaio agreed to the extra blood testing!

Spazdarn

paraguay99 wrote: »

It's hilarious how Pacquiao fans can criticize Floyd for simply wanting to ensure that both fighters are on an equal playing field and 100% clean. I really find it hilarious

Equal playing field? like he was on an equal playing field when he came in heavy against Marquez who was already a much smaller man. It's only a level playing field when it benefits Floyd.

maxxie wrote: »

Pacquaio agreed to the extra blood testing!

I also read that, he apparently agreed to it in the second round of negotiations, the negotiations Floyd "knew nothing about". Manny agreed to his blood testing then he goes into hiding, he was very vocal before that...

maxxie

In my opinion floyds record is not that of the p4p great he declares himself to be.

He must have things in his favour before he fights an opponent that may be risky.
Gatti, Hatton, Marquez just 3 examples of fighting guys out of their weight class.