Looking to get an install of Freesat / Saorview

moonboy52

Satellite.ie only install in Dublin, Kildare,Meath and Wicklow.

www.satellitetv.ie charge €479 for A full Freesat / Saorview install with the equipment.

€290 for the D.I.Y package so €180 for the install.



Could anyone give me any advice on the following:

1. Is the satellitetv.ie price reasonable?

2. Would i be better off buying the equipment seperately and getting an installer in Waterford city to do the install?

3. Could anyone recommend someone in Waterford city who would install at a reasonable price. (Cheaper than the €180 that Satellitetv.ie are charging)

4. If the D.I.Y option is the best could someone recommend a good dish, HD PVR, cables etc?

5. I would like a second cable to be installed in my bedroom for both Terrestrial and satellite


Any thoughts or help would be appreciated as i live in a rented apartment and would not like to mess up trying to install it all myself.

Tony

Sorry I'm not able to help you out but we can't seem to get reliable installers outside of the counties you mentioned.

moonboy52 wrote: »

Satellite.ie only install in Dublin, Kildare,Meath and Wicklow.

joker@

If someone want to rip me off for 180e i will go to school and learn how to set dish ,anyway its simple ,get bottle of Jameson one friend and full day for it.Its very simple belive me.

Tony

180 to install a dish and an aerial is not unreasonable in my view.

moonboy52

joker@ wrote: »

If someone want to rip me off for 180e i will go to school and learn how to set dish ,anyway its simple ,get bottle of Jameson one friend and full day for it.Its very simple belive me.

It is not the setting up of the dish that has me concerned.

It is the running of the cables thru the attic, drilling holes etc.

I am crap at DIY (i own one screwdriver ) and i do not want to ruin the rented apartment trying to do so.

watty

You need an installer. Be suspicious of anyone much less than €180

Print out your shopping list and confirm it with proposed installer before buying from satellite.ie or anywhere, or comitting to installer.

moonboy52

Tony wrote: »

180 to install a dish and an aerial is not unreasonable in my view.

you charge 299 for a full HD freesat install (minus Saorview of course).

That seems very reasonable to me.

I am just trying to weigh my options up really

moonboy52

I am sure that satellitetv.ie are very reputable but has anyone had any dealings with them?

Tony

No problem i was just responding to Jokers comment, sorry I should have clarified that.

moonboy52 wrote: »

I am just trying to weigh my options up really

watty

yes

moonboy52

Tony wrote: »

No problem i was just responding to Jokers comment, sorry I should have clarified that.

I was comparing prices and just saying how reasonable your prices are.

I wish i was in one of the four counties

Tony

moonboy52 wrote: »

I wish i was in one of the four counties

I wish I had a good installer in your area who could help you

keith gallagher

I can't believe how expensive it is to install. Myself and my father put up mine. Took a little while to fine tune everything but it was a piece of cake

watty

And you had to pay how much?
wages
Travel time
tools depreciation (you have a meter with BER?)
van depreciation
van running cost
PL insurance

DIY can always save a lot of money if you can DIY properly.

I saved €3,500 installing stove & heating system. Dead easy.

SARZY

Tony wrote: »

180 to install a dish and an aerial is not unreasonable in my view.

Just had a dish installed AND a free to air box icluding all the wiring and drilling etc for €180.
Man advertised this price on local paper, everthing perfect.

I'm happy and so is he.

Watched him do it and aligning the dish is the only real problem, all the rest an average diy man could manage.

PS, another chap I know who has a caravan (and a portable dish) assures me that aligning the dish is simple with practise and a 'sat finder' for €20 in Maplin.

Cantona's Collars

SARZY wrote: »

Just had a dish installed AND a free to air box icluding all the wiring and drilling etc for €180.
Man advertised this price on local paper, everthing perfect.

I'm happy and so is he.

Watched him do it and aligning the dish is the only real problem, all the rest an average diy man could manage.

PS, another chap I know who has a caravan (and a portable dish) assures me that aligning the dish is simple with practise and a 'sat finder' for €20 in Maplin.

I know of an 'installer' who drilled up through the middle of somebodys bedroom floor and another who nearly blew himself up by hitting an electrical cable.Cheap and cheerful isn't always best.We have threads here about bob the baker installers who really just about manage to get the job done and can end up doing more harm than good.
Can your average diy man erect a dish and outdoor ariel safely and correctly then run the cables in a tidy manner-it's not as simple as bang up a dish stick in a single cable and bobs your uncle.

St Senan

SARZY wrote: »

Just had a dish installed AND a free to air box icluding all the wiring and drilling etc for €180.
Man advertised this price on local paper, everthing perfect.

I'm happy and so is he.

Did this man tell you that the FREE TO AIR box he supplied to you will lose channels and will always need to be manually Retuned every few months. If he didn't make sure you keep the RECEIPT he gave you. The only way it could be perfect for €180 would be if the box or remote had this logo http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5a/Logo_freesat.png on it. This is why Freesat is about €50-€60 more than these cheap budget free to air kits.

Tony

So no aerial installed in the cases you mentioned?


If you are going to quote me and compare prices compare like with like.

SARZY wrote: »

Just had a dish installed AND a free to air box icluding all the wiring and drilling etc for €180.
Man advertised this price on local paper, everthing perfect.

I'm happy and so is he.

Watched him do it and aligning the dish is the only real problem, all the rest an average diy man could manage.

PS, another chap I know who has a caravan (and a portable dish) assures me that aligning the dish is simple with practise and a 'sat finder' for €20 in Maplin.

watty

A "Portable" Dish is easier to install because it's smaller. Gets wiped out by rain.

The bigger a dish, the harder it is to find a satellite at all and the more accurately it needs aligned.

Premier

moonboy52 wrote: »

Satellite.ie only install in Dublin, Kildare,Meath and Wicklow.

www.satellitetv.ie charge €479 for A full Freesat / Saorview install with the equipment.

€290 for the D.I.Y package so €180 for the install.



Could anyone give me any advice on the following:

1. Is the satellitetv.ie price reasonable?

2. Would i be better off buying the equipment seperately and getting an installer in Waterford city to do the install?

3. Could anyone recommend someone in Waterford city who would install at a reasonable price. (Cheaper than the €180 that Satellitetv.ie are charging)

4. If the D.I.Y option is the best could someone recommend a good dish, HD PVR, cables etc?

5. I would like a second cable to be installed in my bedroom for both Terrestrial and satellite


Any thoughts or help would be appreciated as i live in a rented apartment and would not like to mess up trying to install it all myself.

Contact us we can help. Quality work and reliable service
But we wont be any cheaper than what you were quoted, will let you know after we take a look at the job first

slegs

Most things are relatively easy if you take the time to research and buy the correct materials. Tradesmen arent charging you because something is particularly difficult. They are charging you for the time and materials to do a quality job. They have to cover their costs which must include insurance. I would not have an uninsured tradesman any where near my house.

A quality tradesman will also have the experience and knowledge to deal with the odd difficult scenario. A DIYer wont....

Installing TV antennae is no different to plumbing, installing kitchens, tiling etc from this perspective. But somehow people think that installing a dish is something that should be low in cost whereas they are happy to pay a tiler amply for his services. Sky probably have a lot to do with this through free installs on subsidised packages.

You can do avery good DIY job yourself installinga dish but thats an individual's personal choice. It has no bearing on what a quality installer should charge.

People in Ireland somewhere along the way have confused the meaning of "value" with "lowest cost". I blame Lidl myself.

watty

Sometimes though something strange happens and then you need a Craftsman, expert,
and in the case to TV & Satellite someone with €1,200 to €2,700 test gear and real engineering expertise.

Also the "regular" Plumber, joiner, brick layer, Sat dish/ aerial fitter can often only do the "standard" installs. A good company has someone expert for the tricky ones.

A properly trained person also does a job that will last. That's why Bord Gais is a bit fussier about who does the plumbing.

SARZY

Tony wrote: »

So no aerial installed in the cases you mentioned?


If you are going to quote me and compare prices compare like with like.

You quoted me. I never quoted you.

I reported a fact and you get shirty with me.

Simple fact is there are hundreds of people in Ireland who have bought the gear and installed Satellite systems themselves.

There are a lot of people who wouldnt have the first clue where to start.
Thats your market. Best of luck to you.

SARZY

Tony wrote: »

So no aerial installed in the cases you mentioned?


If you are going to quote me and compare prices compare like with like.

had a look back and Tony I did quote you.

And I know why I did and so do you.

Premier

watty wrote: »

Sometimes though something strange happens and then you need a Craftsman, expert,
and in the case to TV & Satellite someone with €1,200 to €2,700 test gear and real engineering expertise.

Also the "regular" Plumber, joiner, brick layer, Sat dish/ aerial fitter can often only do the "standard" installs. A good company has someone expert for the tricky ones.

A properly trained person also does a job that will last. That's why Bord Gais is a bit fussier about who does the plumbing.

Like it watty

Tony

SARZY wrote: »

had a look back and Tony I did quote you.

Then you should correct your post. I said 180 was reasonable for a satellite and aerial install, you quoted for satellite only so the comparison was unreasonable. I'm not being "shirty" whatever you think that means but I do believe in rational debate where we deal with facts and not your misinterpretaion of what I stated.

fozz10

if an average man cant put up a sat and aerial and run the wires.and use a sat finder even with all the information and instructions available then ya need to ask questions of your self!http://www.tvtrade.ie/combo-digital-satellite-tv-kit.html this is the price and this is all it should cost. directions are on the site its not rocket science

fozz10

no dig meant at any installers here but im just trying to point out how easy it is if ya put a bit of time into it for people who think they need to fork out big money to do this kind of job

Tony

fozz10 wrote: »

its not rocket science

So how did the satellite reach orbit above the equator I'm pretty sure it was rocket science.

fozz10

yes im sure it was but that would be referring to "how to send a satellite to orbit" not the topic of installing the dish and kit which i was talking about.:)

Badgermonkey

Argos NI & UK charge £99.99 for a twin Freesat installation.

Seems like a decent price.

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/5270237/Trail/searchtext%3EFREESAT.htm

NOTE: This twin installation is only required for recordable freesat boxes, e.g Humax Foxsat HD Freesat Digital TV Recorder (532/1832). For non-recordable boxes please purchase the Single Freesat Installation (527/0086).
This item is for the satellite equipment and cabling only, NOT the Freesat box.
Our installers will call within 48 hours to arrange a convenient date for setup and installation of your Freesat equipment and satellite dish.
Installation has restrictions. Refer to the in store browser for details. Extras can be agreed and paid direct to installer. The installer will also check with you the details of your property to ensure that the standard installation service will be suitable.
The installer may quote additional charges for installations outside the scope of the standard conditions.
There is no obligation to accept an additional charge - you may cancel the installation and claim a refund instead.
Any additional charges are paid directly to the installation company.
This service is suitable for domestic premises only.

bigbadpat

I posted in the Phillips thread on 29/10/2009 as shown below and I got a lot of stick for paying 448 EURO for the FREEVIEW installation. I was happy to pay this at the time especially as everything was up and running so quickly. Had a problem with the Goodman set up box but no further problems since its free replacement. The picture quality is awsome compared with what I had before with UPC.

Phillips 37PFL9604H & Freesat.ie - Great Experience -Posted 29/11/2010
On Friday morning my Phillips 37PFL9604H LCD TV arrived (as promised by Nicola of the Phillips Shop Dame Street) following a phone call from the van driver to my mobile confirming my location.

I had just got my TV unpacked and in position at noon when the man from FREESAT.IE arrived.He installed on the side of my house an Aerial for the 4 Irish Stations & a Dish for the FREE to Air Satellite stations.I went with the HD option and the satellite installation cost 448 EURO. We turned on the TV and the set up was simple and completed in minutes.

The Phillips 37PFL9604H was purchased with my Boards discount and the picture quality & sound are awesome.After suffering for years with poor picture quality from NTL/UPC I am sorry I did not change over sooner.
The LCD TV & Satellite system was sourced having reviewed the relevant threads & information on Boards.
Isn’t this what Boards is all about !!!

galait

:rolleyes:

Tony wrote: »

So how did the satellite reach orbit above the equator I'm pretty sure it was rocket science.

IRCA

fozz10 wrote: »

if an average man cant put up a sat and aerial and run the wires.and use a sat finder even with all the information and instructions available then ya need to ask questions of your self!http://www.tvtrade.ie/combo-digital-satellite-tv-kit.html this is the price and this is all it should cost. directions are on the site its not rocket science

After a while though you get a bit old for this type of lark, I'm in my "ahem" 40's and been doing DIY all my life, recently though I had to repair the aerial on the roof. To be honest by the time I'd got to the roof line and started clambering about I thought "sod this" I was nervous of the hight and considering what the family would do if I came sliding off the roof!

Leave it to the pro's who do this every day for a living and save yourself the grief! €180 might seem a lot, but consider the callout fee, time spent doing the work etc... and all the ancillary costs (as already detailed), it's not really that bad, probably a cheaper hourly rate than a mechanic.

BTW: never did manage to fix the aerial but the local TV shop man came out and fixed it for €60

Vince Cable

Thought that was a rival to ISAA . . .

biffontour

Have you got this installed yet?
Wat county are you in?

moonboy52

biffontour wrote: »

Have you got this installed yet?
Wat county are you in?

If you are talking to me, i have not.

I decided to just go with UPC for another 12 months.

I got my bill reduced so decided i would stay.

biffontour

oh rite no prob was just asking as i install all of the above, not to worry,

iqon77

could you not get sky or chourus to do an install, cancel them after a week and use the cables that they installed as the cables for you other system ?

jpl888

In my case I've had both Sky and Chorus in the past. Chorus left behind the pole and aerial and obviously Sky sat dish and feeds, so I purchased unofficial sat and view boxes, put up a new aerial and I now have subscription free, HD English and Irish channels for under €200.

The EPG's are non-existent and you can't get "interactive" red button on it, but if you have USB storage you can record stuff (although not simultaneous like dual feed sat boxes). I suppose if you know what you need and don't need it can be a cost effective way of doing it.

dirtynosebeps

sorry for coming in on your thread like this moonboy and i hope you dont mind. but i noticed you asked about freesat/saorview. but can i ask is there a difference between the two?. at the moment we're paying €91 p/m for full sky incl. multi-room and i think it's time to look around. again i'm sorry if it looks like i'm intruding on your thread moonboy.

jpl888

Freesat will get you english channels BBC1, 2, ITV, Channel 4, Five, BBC 3, BBC 4, etc.
Saorview only gets you the Irish channels i.e. RTE1, 2, TV3, TG4, 3e.

Both have HD content.

Freesat is through a dish (you will be able to use your existing Sky dish)
Saorview is through a traditional UHF wideband aerial pointed at the correct antenna.

You can find the location of the nearest Saorview antenna at http://www.saorview.ie/make-the-switch/coverage-checker/coverage-map/

Think thats about it in summary.

monara

I'm considering Freeview and Saorview installation for e360 but I've been asked to pay all up front. Is this usual? Also, does the size of the dish matter to reception of Freeview?

St Senan

monara wrote: »

I'm considering Freeview and Saorview installation for e360 but I've been asked to pay all up front. Is this usual? Also, does the size of the dish matter to reception of Freeview?

Freeview http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freeview_%28UK%29 does not work from a Satellite Dish. Your Installer needs to do some research before he Attempts to install a dish and call it Freeview. Freeview is a DTT Aerial System in the UK. What you Need is a Branded Freesat logo system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freesat. Along with a Saorview logo system http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saorview
Only pay for the Job if your Installer is Legit and everything is installed/working properly and you are given a demo and receipt.

Check any of these for Registered legit installers in your area

http://www.cai.org.uk/component/content/article/474
http://www.nationalguild.ie/
http://www.isaa.tv/isaamap.htm

monara

Great advice Scaller. Thanks.:)

Freeview installer

Hi full install and equipement is 300 by myself ,400 odd is too expensive