Onkle's Integra

Gary ITR

I didn't take on this job myself, the car is my daily runner so a mistake could have proved costly. Basically my car was being tuned on Neptune, tuning software for Honda. Normally playing with the ignition timing will see an increase in power in these engines but it got me nothing at the top end, so on investigation one of my plugs was covered in oil. It looked like fresh oil so it pointed towards the valve stem oil seals.

So the parts ordered were

*OEM Valve Stem Oil Seals
*BuddyClub Headgasket
*ARP Bolts and Studs
*Coolant
*Oil
*Ordered Magnecor leads while I was at it
*These Aldi Caramel Biscuits, gorgeous yokes
*Lots of Tea and Coffee

Also to go in was my own ITG Maxogen Airbox, I had been using the one from the Urban Per4mance track car until my own bracket came in



There's how we started the day, around 10.30am



The disassembly begins, my own duties for the day were taking snaps and making sure nobody's cup ran dry



The two boys are fierce quick, the head was out of the car in roughly 40 minutes



The parts






My valves being cleaned up, they were caked in crap, really bad



My head on the bench awaiting it's cleaned up valves



Before



After



Cleaned down a bit



After it was cleaned down one of the mechanics spent quite some time reseating the valves, being very careful and methodical in his work. It's a fairly easy process just tedious and time consuming.

The new gasket in place



I made a decision not to skim the head, there were no HG issues prior to the head coming off and skimming would have limited my options when I'm going to be upping compression, I know skimming ups compression but I want to do it with pistons, I need to be up around 13:1
Anyway the head was checked and it was straight as an arrow

The ARP's going into place, the gasket used along with the ARP's are reusable items, so if the head comes off again they are absolutely fine to reuse unlike OEM parts



More Below....

Gary ITR

Contd..

The Head going back on



Cams in place



And into the final stages



At around 9.30PM she fired into life, one turn and on the button



Now get your car and get the **** out of my garage




I know this isn't technically help/advice but I thought it might be appreciated


We haven't done a dyno run since the build, a bit of time to let it run in can do no harm and now the weather has played it's part. The car feels stronger on crossover in VTEC and is noticeably less smokey too. Hopefully I'll get my map sorted this side of Christmas. With the oil making it's way onto the plugs we had overfuelled to compensate so now I'm running pig rich. So as soon as I can it'll be plugged in and tuned properly

shamwari

Excellent post!

I forgot that Honda's have their timing belts on the wrong side too :P

Gary ITR

Thanks It was an epic day, 11 hours in total but nothing was rushed

The pair of lads working on the car kept trying to remove my aircon when I wasn't looking.

I have a good theory on the aircon though, you see a TegR is perfectly balanced with an 85kg driver, I'm eh.... somewhat heavier than 85kg and the compressor for the aircon is on the opposite side of the car making it all balanced out again

Plug

Reseating the valves, thats just grinding the valves right? Hate that job:D Good job.
Not been nosy but thats your garage?

Gary ITR

Plug wrote: »

Reseating the valves, thats just grinding the valves right? Hate that job:D Good job.

Lapping them in, took a few hours

Plug wrote: »

Not been nosy but thats your garage?

Ha! I wish, that's Urban Per4mance, I'm just one of their customers.

Moby

Onkle wrote: »

Lapping them in, took a few hours

If the valves took so long to grind in, they must have been badly worn, you should have took them to a machine shop to have them refaced and also reface the seatings ,it would be a better job and not cost a lot

Gary ITR

Moby wrote: »

If the valves took so long to grind in, they must have been badly worn, you should have took them to a machine shop to have them refaced and also reface the seatings ,it would be a better job and not cost a lot

It wasn't a case of bad wear, in fact there was very little wear, the lads were just meticulous about it

Atomic Pineapple

What figure are you hoping to get with the tune after the rebuild has settled in?

Captain Slow IRL

Is that your old car Draffodx?

Gary ITR

Captain Slow IRL wrote: »

Is that your old car Draffodx?

There might be one or two bits of Draff's old car in there alright


@draff it all depends on where it's dyno'd before the rebuild and with the tune we couldn't fuel right due to the oil in the spark I hit 195 in Martin Tracey's place. In Urban I got 180, I'd like to hit mid 190's there though.

With the mods I'm seeing the power band widening in the middle though, at lower revs I'm producing far more HP, at 4500 RPM I was up 15brake

Atomic Pineapple

Onkle wrote: »

There might be one or two bits of Draff's old car in there alright

Its still got the same heart in it!

Onkle wrote: »

@draff it all depends on where it's dyno'd before the rebuild and with the tune we couldn't fuel right due to the oil in the spark I hit 195 in Martin Tracey's place. In Urban I got 180, I'd like to hit mid 190's there though.

With the mods I'm seeing the power band widening in the middle though, at lower revs I'm producing far more HP, at 4500 RPM I was up 15brake

Best to keep it to Urbans to see the improvements from start to finish I reckon, 195 with incorrect fueling is a crazy figure! Mid 190 would be a class figure to hit, glad the car found a good home after being up for adoption for so long

Be interesting to get it to AI again at some stage to see the difference from when I had it.

Gary ITR

Booked for the Map and Dyno run at 3.45 on Thursday, fingers crossed for good figures

Gary ITR

Will I ever get my tune? LOL

Well the last 3/4 days my poxy clutch has been giving up the ghost but we dynoed it anyway (new clutch going in Saturday) and as expected it was overfuelling like mad due to us trying to compensate before the head rebuild.

No blue smoke from her, it's a bit smokey in this vid but that's all fuel. Sorry but no sound for some reason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y96aQyaQKg

Gary ITR

Well the map is done at last New clutch went in today, in between cups of coffee and burger king

I made 186 and hit it consistently, I didn't get hung up too much on the top end figure because at 6000RPM I'm up 52BHP vs where I started which is an unreal figure for an NA 1.8

I made bundles of torque too and I'm only 12ft/lbs off the Urban Race Car which is an absolute monster of a car

So off I went for a drive and my God the pull from the car is super, I'm honestly really chuffed with it

Gary ITR

She's hitting the track tomorrow, if my driving isn't really really awful I'll post a vid or two

Gary ITR

I changed the title of the thread, might as well use this thread to keep track of where I'm going with the car.

Out on the track yesterday it was excellent, the only thing that let it down in the morning session was the driver I gave it one small slap when I spun and caught my bumper on the rumple strip, got back to the pits and my indicator/sidelight cluster had come out of it's clip so I took it out altogether and off I went again.

Come the afternoon session things took a turn, the car had outperformed it's brakes and tyres, the fluid had boiled and the tyres were scrubbed to bits so I gad to take it a bit easier on it. Towards the end of the session though I had a good feel for the car and the track, the only thing I can do now is improve.

The mods made so far are

Buddyclub balljoints
Buddyclub camber arms
Braided lines + Rebuilt calipers
Uprated pads
Buddyclub Catback
N1 Header
Tuned on Neptune
ITG Maxogen airbox

What I need before the next visit to the track is better brake fluid and better pads, I'm going to go for Endless and I'll have to get trackday tyres onto a spare set of wheels

Tallon

Photos look great, fair play to the lads.

The cars coming along nicely.

Gary ITR

My mate was supposed to be coming with me to take pics but I couldn't get him out of bed, there was a fair few lads there taking pics anyway

projectgtr

Have a look at Carbotech brakes done a full day with absolutely no fade at all,match that with some motul 5.1 and you have a nice setup, then id be looking at braided lines, going out on track is expensive it makes you do mods you never even thought of ,

looked like you had fun bro any video?? Im dying to get back out, im trying to pull an end of year trip back to the ring for my 30th

Gary ITR

projectgtr wrote: »

Have a look at Carbotech brakes done a full day with absolutely no fade at all,match that with some motul 5.1 and you have a nice setup, then id be looking at braided lines, going out on track is expensive it makes you do mods you never even thought of ,

looked like you had fun bro any video?? Im dying to get back out, im trying to pull an end of year trip back to the ring for my 30th

Have the braided lines already, I've heard great things about Endless and drive a car with them and it has some stopping power

No vids unfortunately, my mate was supposed to be doing all that

projectgtr

You wont go wrong with endless Ive heard nothing but good about them, one thing id say they have over the carbotech is that ive heard they get up to operating temperature quicker so they are better for road, i have to keep reminding myself to heat mine up while im out on the roads.

What tyres were you running, and what ones are you planning on running next?

Gary ITR

projectgtr wrote: »

You wont go wrong with endless Ive heard nothing but good about them, one thing id say they have over the carbotech is that ive heard they get up to operating temperature quicker so they are better for road, i have to keep reminding myself to heat mine up while im out on the roads.

What tyres were you running, and what ones are you planning on running next?

One of the lads has Endless pads and discs and doesn't really suffer any problems with heating them up, he reckons after 3/4 minutes with some gentle braking they're grand

I just ran with the T1R's, I'll be getting another set of them for the road but I'm officially on the hunt for another set of wheels but mine is a UKDM (5 stud) and I'll be sticking a set of 888's on them

projectgtr

Onkle wrote: »

One of the lads has Endless pads and discs and doesn't really suffer any problems with heating them up, he reckons after 3/4 minutes with some gentle braking they're grand

I just ran with the T1R's, I'll be getting another set of them for the road but I'm officially on the hunt for another set of wheels but mine is a UKDM (5 stud) and I'll be sticking a set of 888's on them

T1Rs are so much fun around mondello, fun as in scaring the crap out of passengers though i did manage to pass an evo with mine R888s are an amazing tyre, one of the best tyres ive used, what kinda prices are you getting they seem to be creeping up alot lately :mad: Might try something different i the summer

Gary ITR

projectgtr wrote: »

T1Rs are so much fun around mondello, fun as in scaring the crap out of passengers though i did manage to pass an evo with mine R888s are an amazing tyre, one of the best tyres ive used, what kinda prices are you getting they seem to be creeping up alot lately :mad: Might try something different i the summer

They gripped well enough I suppose but they lasted peeing time.

Yeah the 888's are expensive, I'm just pricing online tbh, looking at a group buy with a few lads though if you're interested?

projectgtr

Onkle wrote: »

They gripped well enough I suppose but they lasted peeing time.

Yeah the 888's are expensive, I'm just pricing online tbh, looking at a group buy with a few lads though if you're interested?

thanks man,give us a shout when your getting them if i have funds ill be in

Must get up my last video think i had the T1Rs on then

Gary ITR

New tyres on and definitely going Endless brakes, they'll be ordered on Monday . Also a Buddyclub short shifter going in on Tuesday, she's getting an oil and filter change at the same time, best off after the trackday, should have done it sooner but I haven't had the time this week.

Tefral

2 things:

- I want in on the R888 Group buy, though ill need 16s for the JDM.
- 13:1 Compression? Is that not too high on our ****e jungle juice?

Gary ITR

cronin_j wrote: »

2 things:

- I want in on the R888 Group buy, though ill need 16s for the JDM.
- 13:1 Compression? Is that not too high on our ****e jungle juice?

I'll keep you posted about the 888's

As for the compression, each Maxol fill will require a bottle of Octane booster, cheap enough if you buy it the right way

Tefral

Onkle wrote: »

I'll keep you posted about the 888's

As for the compression, each Maxol fill will require a bottle of Octane booster, cheap enough if you buy it the right way

Im going for higher compression pistons but not as high as 13:1. I just couldnt be putting up with the proboost all the time.

Are you doing any work to the head?

Gary ITR

cronin_j wrote: »

Im going for higher compression pistons but not as high as 13:1. I just couldnt be putting up with the proboost all the time.

Are you doing any work to the head?

I'll be going for Buddyclub valves, springs and retainers and having the head flowed along with the cams of course

Atomic Pineapple

Onkle wrote: »

I'll be going for Buddyclub valves, springs and retainers and having the head flowed along with the cams of course

When you next taking it out on track I might tip along to practice taking pictures

CharlieCroker

draffodx wrote: »

When you next taking it out on track I might tip along to practice taking pictures

I might pop along just to laugh at your driving!!

Gary ITR

CharlieCroker wrote: »

I might pop along just to laugh at your driving!!

Will your Alfa make it to Kildare?

omb0wyn5ehpij9

Good thread dude, making great progress on the teg.
Definitely need to go out in it with you to see the difference!

Gary ITR

Bryn wrote: »

Good thread dude, making great progress on the teg.
Definitely need to go out in it with you to see the difference!

You're more than welcome dude, I might even let you drive it if you promise to drive it like you stole it

Tallon

Noone would steal it

Gary ITR

Tallon wrote: »

Noone would steal it

Not after the alarm your mate installed

Tefral

Make sure you get an OEM headgasket man, the Buddyclub and cometic headgaskets leak!

Gary ITR

cronin_j wrote: »

Make sure you get an OEM headgasket man, the Buddyclub and cometic headgaskets leak!

If they're not installed properly they do. A few cars that are regulars in Urban have BuddyClub headgaskets and are used without any issue. No problems with mine so far either. I did hear of a guy using a BuddyClub hg and having issues but he reused the original bolts

challengemaster

draffodx wrote: »

When you next taking it out on track I might tip along to practice taking pictures

Mondello don't like people popping along to take pics without jumping through a massive series of loops, forms and formalities first

I even got kicked off the track before when taking pics :pac:

Gary ITR

From my limited knowledge of it the Pitlane wall seems to be fine but other areas would require a pass/hi-vis and safety brief so I'm told

Maybe ask LIGHTNING?

Gary ITR

Got a rebuild on my distributor today. I didn't use Urban for this because they hadn't got the parts in stock. When it was finished I went on the Dyno again and have lost 20 brake. If the distributor doesn't go back on exactly the same way it came off then the ignition timing gets messed up so I have to go back on Neptune this Saturday. Never ever going to another garage ever again lol!


I gave the IACV a good clean this evening to make myself feel better, there has been a slight hunting in my idle this week, the cleaning has sorted it though

Plug

Onkle wrote: »

Got a rebuild on my distributor today. I didn't use Urban for this because they hadn't got the parts in stock. When it was finished I went on the Dyno again and have lost 20 brake. If the distributor doesn't go back on exactly the same way it came off then the ignition timing gets messed up so I have to go back on Neptune this Saturday. Never ever going to another garage ever again lol!


I gave the IACV a good clean this evening to make myself feel better, there has been a slight hunting in my idle this week, the cleaning has sorted it though

lol, made an arse of that! ? Are ya going back to urban to sort it?

Gary ITR

Hopefully Mick can take a look Saturday, my NCT is 13.40 on Saturday too :eek:

I got a bad vibe from the crowd doing the distributor, I really should have just walked out when he blamed my map, the car had this issue on the standard ECU so it ain't the map. He only blamed the map after he found out who did it too. I worked in sales for many years I was always told to 'never knock your competitor', reason being you look like an arrogant asshole and it's true. The guys I dealt with yesterday were not great, no professionalism and no interest. They didn't even ask me to take the car for a spin to check it. Wether it was a good job or not the customer service was terrible

Gary ITR

*whistles*

Plug

Are ya going to get the bottom end rebuilt? Did ya get new rods as well?

Gary ITR

High compression pistons, Buddyclub spec IV cams, adjustable pulleys, Buddyclub valves, dual valve springs and titanium retainers.

The standard ITR rod is more than good enough for this build. I will be doing shell barings though along with a baffled sump and change the oil pump while it's out. Few other things too

Plug

Onkle wrote: »

High compression pistons, Buddyclub spec IV cams, adjustable pulleys, Buddyclub valves, dual valve springs and titanium retainers.

The standard ITR rod is more than good enough for this build. I will be doing shell barings though along with a baffled sump and change the oil pump while it's out. Few other things too

200BHP anyway! jesus that must of set you back a bit. What are the adjustable pulleys?

Gary ITR

Plug wrote: »

200BHP anyway! jesus that must of set you back a bit. What are the adjustable pulleys?

Ah she should break 200 anyway, similar builds have gotten from 205 to 220

The adjustable cam pulley allows the timing to be fiddled with in the eternal hunt for more power

Plug

Them pulleys look nice:cool:
Over 200bhp from a 1.8 N/A now thats good, 116BHP per litre roughly!
Are you taking pictures of the process?