Galway FG Selection for General Election, No McCormack

Sponge Bob

Just heard Padraig McCormack was not selected to run in the general election.

I personally reckon he will retire gracefully if Seán Kyne is selected by HQ as an add on third candidate .. and McCormack is party chairman.

PomBear

who are their confirmed candidtes? not that i'll be voting for them...

flynnlives

That loud mouth Fidlema Healy-SCREames!

And Brian Walsh

Sponge Bob

Healy Eames and Walsh were selected. The FG HQ has reserved the right to add another candidate and as they have an East and City candidate they will not add another from those areas.

And they have a very limited pool of Connemara area sweepers to choose from. They have around a third of a quota out there.

I personally reckon McCormack will retire, once Kyne is selected by HQ at his instigation.

Tedole

Sums up why people won't vote for FG - Walsh bloused out just before last General Election, so why the change of heat now? If they nominated McCormick now, and he got elected, he would surely be nominated as Ceann Comhairle, which means he wouldn't have to contest the following General Election.
Surely if he stood this time around he would be elecytd, so by not nominating him, FG have rejected a GUARANTEED set for the next 10 years. Bizarre.

PomBear

flynnlives wrote: »

That loud mouth Fidlema Healy-SCREames!

And Brian Walsh

you'd swear FG don't want to win the election with those two!

Sponge Bob

The pair of them, plus whoever is added, will assuredly win a seat. The second seat is dubious Pom. In Galway West I always vote 'worst first' ....with a 16th preference or something..... and eventually end up at number one by a 'least objectionable' process of selection.

You would be surprised how easy and quick it is to work the first 10 preferences out in reverse order. Yuk yuk yuk bleugh yuk sort of thing.

thesandeman

Of course McC will get out now. Dont forget the TDs pensions are going to be cut after the next election. And he wont be the only one. I think the average age of 'our representatives' will show a big drop next year. (I know its Galway Forum but I dont want people thinking its just McCormack im dissing.

johngalway

I'm disappointed McCormack wasn't selected, nor Kyne! Know McCormack a long time, met Kyne last year and was impressed tbh.

PomBear

i'm pretty happy with it, hopefully people will wise up to FG before the GE

Sponge Bob

My guesstimate is that FG will run with what I call a "seven dwarves" strategy.

They will have a ticket of maybe 5 candidates, 3 sweepers and 2 hopefuls. McCormack will not run.

FF conducted a Galway West poll ( sample size 5-600) a few weeks ago which shows a lot of bunching mid table. Here are the results

Martin Concannan (SF) 2%
Catherine Connolly (IND) 12%
Michael Crowe (FF) 7%
Noel Grealish (IND) 11%
Frank Fahy (FF) 8%
Fidelma Healy Eames (FG) 9%
Derek Nolan (LAB) 11%
Padraic McCormack (FG) 14%
Eamon O’Cuiv (FF) 15%
Niall O’Brolchain (GR) 4%
Brian Walsh (FG) 7%

A 7 dwarves strategy would be to run O Laoi Kyne and Naughton as sweepers with the intention that they would be eliminated quite early on and would transfer in such a way as to keep Healy Eames and Walsh ahead of Crowe and Fahey all the way through.

Importantly they are both meant to be ahead of Grealish and Connolly and Nolan after about 5 counts and to stay there.

It would also mean that O Cuiv would crawl over the line with no surplus because 2 of the sweepers would take connemara votes off him.

But this is risky and is designed to get their two main candidates elected, probably after O Cuiv, leaving Grealish Connolly Fahey Crowe and Nolan to squabble over 3 seats between them.

These are all city votes excepting Fahey and can transfer in the oddest ways....ie within the city not within parties.

snubbleste

Brian (I want as many flats as Frank).. And Fidelma (I love everything thats nice). FG don't want votes it seems.
Apart from Catherine Connolly, there does not seem to be much option in the constituency, it seems to be same old same old.

Any chance of a protest candidate about anything running?

Sponge Bob

snubbleste wrote: »

(I want as many flats as Frank).

Thats Michael 'Housing Benefit' Crowe not Brian Walsh

Apart from Catherine Connolly, there does not seem to be much option in the constituency, it seems to be same old same old.

It seems to be a shifting of deckchairs on the titanic all right None will ever be a cabinet minister and that's for sure.
Shall we send a delemagation to Roscommon and beg Ming to return??

Bosco boy

Sponge Bob wrote: »

My guesstimate is that FG will run with what I call a "seven dwarves" strategy.

They will have a ticket of maybe 5 candidates, 3 sweepers and 2 hopefuls. McCormack will not run.

FF conducted a Galway West poll ( sample size 5-600) a few weeks ago which shows a lot of bunching mid table. Here are the results



A 7 dwarves strategy would be to run O Laoi Kyne and Naughton as sweepers with the intention that they would be eliminated quite early on and would transfer in such a way as to keep Healy Eames and Walsh ahead of Crowe and Fahey all the way through.

Importantly they are both meant to be ahead of Grealish and Connolly and Nolan after about 5 counts and to stay there.

It would also mean that O Cuiv would crawl over the line with no surplus because 2 of the sweepers would take connemara votes off him.

But this is risky and is designed to get their two main candidates elected, probably after O Cuiv, leaving Grealish Connolly Fahey Crowe and Nolan to squabble over 3 seats between them.

These are all city votes excepting Fahey and can transfer in the oddest ways....ie within the city not within parties.

I think it will be a 4-4-2 formation, Fahy is injured and wont last the 90, Grealish will get a goal in the last minute and keep his place, O Cuiv a hat trick, O brolochan will sit on the bench unless someone has smypathy for him and gives him a place (on the reserve team). Healy Eames will be a cheer leader again! Crowe on the bench too many own goals! Bring back Paraic and play him up front he's quality!!!

snubbleste

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Thats Michael 'Housing Benefit' Crowe not Brian Walsh

I'm just going on about my previous post last september about Walsh owning 10 properties, being a former manager in Anglo...
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=67876637&postcount=81

Sponge Bob

snubbleste wrote: »

Brian (I want as many flats as Frank)..

Sorry I was wrong about him Snubbleste, just like Michael Crowe does.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=67876568&postcount=80

Article on Galwaynews.ie
http://www.galwaynews.ie/16420-padraig-mc-cormack-fails-get-selected-election-ticket

PADRAIG MC CORMACK FAILS TO GET SELECTED FOR ELECTION TICKET
Sitting TD Padraic McCormack has failed to be put on the Galway West ticket for next year's general election.

At last night's selection convention in the Salthill Hotel city cllr Brian Walsh and Senator Fidelma Healy Eames were voted onto the ticket by delegates.

Deputy McCormack, the chairperson of the Fine Gael Party, says he's disappointed with delegates' decision not to put him forward.

The party has the option of adding another name to the ticket, but if Deputy McCormack is the choice for this he may decline to be added in this manner.

Party sources say the enforced absence of approximately 200 delegates due to weather conditions may have affected Deputy McCormack's votes.

yeehaw

snubbleste wrote: »

I'm just going on about my previous post last september about Walsh owning 10 properties, being a former manager in Anglo...
http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=67876637&postcount=81

You had no point then and you have no point now.

yeehaw

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Sorry I was wrong about him Snubbleste, just like Michael Crowe does.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=67876568&postcount=80

And what, pray tell, is your point?

snubbleste

yeehaw wrote: »

And what, pray tell, is your point?
You had no point then and you have no point now.

Brian, is that you?
I know you advertise yourself as a full-time councillor but there are leaks to be fixed, potholes to be filled, footpaths to be gritted..

yeehaw

snubbleste wrote: »

Brian, is that you?
I know you advertise yourself as a full-time councillor but there are leaks to be fixed, potholes to be filled, footpaths to be gritted..

I'm afraid I still am no clearer on your point. Should owners of more than one property be excluded from running for public office?

Sponge Bob

yeehaw wrote: »

And what, pray tell, is your point?

Well done last night Brian, have you any stories to us tell from your days as an Anglo Irish manager ???

996tt

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Martin Concannan (SF) 2%
Catherine Connolly (IND) 12%
Michael Crowe (FF) 7%
Noel Grealish (IND) 11%
Frank Fahy (FF) 8%
Fidelma Healy Eames (FG) 9%
Derek Nolan (LAB) 11%
Padraic McCormack (FG) 14%
Eamon O’Cuiv (FF) 15%
Niall O’Brolchain (GR) 4%
Brian Walsh (FG) 7%

looking at that poll it looks like kn0b niall o'b wont be elected(again), so what will happen his seanad seat, is that a seat for life for him?

Euro_Kraut

996tt wrote: »

looking at that poll it looks like kn0b niall o'b wont be elected(again), so what will happen his seanad seat, is that a seat for life for him?

No. Its not the House of Lords . The Taioseach gets to nominate 13 Senators after every General Election the rest are elected by local councilors (and 6 through Universities). NÓB was nominated after a vacancy arose in the Seanad following Alan Kelly election to the European Parliament.

Enda Kenny or Eamonn Gilmore are obviously unlikely to reappoint him. He is also unlikely to be elected to the Seanad in the regular way as the Greens have only 3 Cllrs in the entire country.

In short he was made a Senator in 2009 and he will lose than seat in 2011. Basically his political career will be over as he no longer has a seat on Galway City Council.

Euro_Kraut

Tedole wrote: »

Sums up why people won't vote for FG - Walsh bloused out just before last General Election, so why the change of heat now? If they nominated McCormick now, and he got elected, he would surely be nominated as Ceann Comhairle, which means he wouldn't have to contest the following General Election.
Surely if he stood this time around he would be elecytd, so by not nominating him, FG have rejected a GUARANTEED set for the next 10 years. Bizarre.

There are a number of FG TDs that are eying up the CC seat. Not to mention the current Leas Ceann Comhraile Brendan Howlin of Labour who is the most likely to get it.

Its no done deal that McCormaic would get the CC gig. Lab/FG are looking at 110-120 seats in the Dail. That's a lot of competition for the top jobs.

996tt

Euro_Kraut wrote: »

No. Its not the House of Lords . The Taioseach gets to nominate 13 Senators after every General Election the rest are elected by local councilors (and 6 through Universities). NÓB was nominated after a vacancy arose in the Seanad following Alan Kelly election to the European Parliament.

Enda Kenny or Eamonn Gilmore are obviously unlikely to reappoint him. He is also unlikely to be elected to the Seanad in the regular way as the Greens have only 3 Cllrs in the entire country.

In short he was made a Senator in 2009 and he will lose than seat in 2011. Basically his political career will be over as he no longer has a seat on Galway City Council.

thats good to hear(as he has been rejected by the electorate that last 3 out of 4 times that he has stood), however im sure just like the time he lost his seat in the city council he'll get a big fat pay cheque

johngalway

Sponge Bob wrote: »

Just heard Padraig McCormack was not selected to run in the general election.

I personally reckon he will retire gracefully if Seán Kyne is selected by HQ as an add on third candidate .. and McCormack is party chairman.

I'm not sure Kyne is willing to run. I'd like if he would though.

flynnlives

Good to see that FG are doing everything in their power to help Frank Fahy and Michael Crowe get elected!!!

idiots!

Sponge Bob

johngalway wrote: »

I'm not sure Kyne is willing to run. I'd like if he would though.

He said he wouldn't run against McCormack or at a selection convention. He left himself the option of running if added to a ticket later.

johngalway

Sponge Bob wrote: »

He said he wouldn't run against McCormack or at a selection convention. He left himself the option of running if added to a ticket later.

Yes, but not as a designated "sweeper".

Discodog

Kenny & FG are in the scary position of assuming that they will win a landslide - whoever they put forward. We all know that they would get more votes by dropping Kenny. In any government a healthy opposition is a good sign. I suspect that FF will end up doing better than the poles suggest.

Even scarier is the thought of having to vote & knowing that you are voting for someone who is incompetent. We will be voting to keep someone out rather than voting for a good candidate.