Ucd Arts

kev9100

This forum has a Science thread, so why not a Arts thread??:D

Hopefully this thread will prove popular and a place where all UCD Arts students can talk about Arts related matters(i.e acedemic problems, subjects and exams).

It might also be helpful for future Arts student who need advice.

Anyone?

unknown13

Yes.

In before the "lol arts" brigade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDEZ2h41t0I

Pigwidgeon

Woooooooooooo Arts. Let's get drunk. lolololol

On a serious note, I'm in second year, Sociology major, psychology minor.

kev9100

I despise the LOL arts thing. Its so incredibly stupid and small-minded.


I was in Quinn today for the first time in a while..... my God it is so much nicer than the Newman Building. It had natural light!!:eek:

Pigwidgeon

I know I was doing a group presentation and we used the study rooms. It's so much nice there.

delta_bravo

kev9100 wrote: »

I despise the LOL arts thing. Its so incfedibly stupid and small-minded.


I was in Quinn today for the first time in a while..... my God it is so much nicer than the Newman Building. It had natural light!!:eek:

I hate Quinn. It reminds me of a hospital, all bright lights and a very sterile environment.

The Newman building has history and character. Many famous figures have passed through the place. Theres a lot more activity in the place and it has a good vibe.

TimeToShine

kev9100 wrote: »

This forum has a Science thread, so why not a Arts thread??:D

Hopefully this thread will prove popular and a place where all UCD Arts students can talk about Arts related matters(i.e acedemic problems, subjects and exams).

It might also be helpful for future Arts student who need advice.

Anyone?

LOL Arts

TimeToShine

The Newman building smells funny.

antomorro-sei

2nd year Arts myself, doing Geography and Politics.

The degree is pointless though. Unfortunately.

unknown13

Doing Sociology and will be Politics next semester.

Hillerz69

OMG arts in UCD is da biggest loada ****e!! Dats da reason i dropped out last ye after 2 months BIGGEST mistake of my life goin there ... Now im in WIT and Lovin it!! =]

antomorro-sei

Hillerz69 wrote: »

OMG arts in UCD is da biggest loada ****e!! Dats da reason i dropped out last ye after 2 months BIGGEST mistake of my life goin there ... Now im in WIT and Lovin it!! =]

Take it you weren't studying English then? :pac:

The_Minister

[MOD NOTE]

This isn't a 'bash Arts' thread; this is a thread for Arts students to talk about their studies and social outlets, free of the abuse they will doubtless endure in job interviews for the rest of their lives.

No Arts bashing please.

[/MOD NOTE]

**Timbuk2**

Is anyone doing ECON10010 Principles of Micro-economics? I'm finding it tough enough, especially understanding how a lot of the graphs are drawn. Sometimes it's hard to know even where the figures come from!

antomorro-sei

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

Is anyone doing ECON10010 Principles of Micro-economics? I'm finding it tough enough, especially understanding how a lot of the graphs are drawn. Sometimes it's hard to know even where the figures come from!

Failed it last year! Repeating it now, but really havn't gone to many of the lectures

Try quantative economics

It's not looking good for me in the upcoming exam. How much and whats the procedure for repeating? (Just in case)

Macroeconomics on the other hand is a piece of piss. Should get a B.
Have microeconomics to look forward to next semester.

antomorro-sei

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Try quantative economics

It's not looking good for me in the upcoming exam. How much and whats the procedure for repeating? (Just in case)

Macroeconomics on the other hand is a piece of piss. Should get a B.
Have microeconomics to look forward to next semester.

I dunno, I got a C+ in Quants, did well in Macro (can't remeber the grade) and then somehow spectaculary failed Micro!

It costs €230 to repeat it!

meathawk

This isn't to bash arts, I mean I couldn't imagine studying anything else. One point I'd like to make is that if you enter DN012 like I did, even if you know people entering it aswell but doing different subjects, it's a very lonely course I find. Music, seems like a very sociable subject but sociology ironically is the loneliest subject. It consists of isolated 3-4 person cliques everywhere and if you aren't in social science, the social aspect is non-existant. The tutorials aren't worth marks anymore so people tend not to turn up.

kev9100

Newman was freezing today. Did they not turn the heat on or something?

unknown13

I thought it was warm. L wasn't cold for Soc10010 today.

Économiste Monétaire

Note that we have an economics forum , if you're stuck on a question or two.

Killer Pigeon

HA! So the war begins!

alois

very true, the only people i know in my major, i know from the societies i joined. societies and clubs are the only way

Killer Pigeon

The_Minister wrote: »

[MOD NOTE]

This isn't a 'bash Arts' thread; this is a thread for Arts students to talk about their studies and social outlets, free of the abuse they will doubtless endure in job interviews for the rest of their lives.

No Arts bashing please.

[/MOD NOTE]

When I started the UCD Science thread there was none of this "Ba! Science, what a loada nerds!". It just turned into a proper discussion about Science, academic stuff and the general goings on in UCD science (mind you I believe computer science students have mostly hijacked the thread by now). Anyway, there is such a stigma attached to Arts in UCD that I can only imagine this thread turning into an Arts bashing thread of sorts or just where Arts students bemoan the fact that they picked Arts in the first place and perhaps contemplate what they're going to do after their degree. No offense but if the general societal stigma to Arts degrees doesn't change, especially in UCD, then that is the only way I expect this thread to go.

The_Minister

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

When I started the UCD Science thread there was none of this "Ba! Science, what a loada nerds!". It just turned into a proper discussion about Science, academic stuff and the general goings on in UCD science (mind you I believe computer science students have mostly hijacked the thread by now). Anyway, there is such a stigma attached to Arts in UCD that I can only imagine this thread turning into an Arts bashing thread of sorts or just where Arts students bemoan the fact that they picked Arts in the first place and perhaps contemplate what they're going to do after their degree. No offense but if the general societal stigma to Arts degrees doesn't change, especially in UCD, then that is the only way I expect this thread to go.

Possibly, but before I lock this thread due to it becoming a troll-fest of arts-bashing, I first intend to have banned users piled up around me like sandbags.

unknown13

I see where people are coming from but you have to make an effort in all subjects especially Arts. Tbh, if you want this debate start another thread because the Science Thread is going grand and didn't have any problems and I don't think it is fair that the Arts thread has to be the opposite.

**Timbuk2**

Just ignore anyone that bashes arts! Engaging in degree snobbery says a lot about that person's attitude and personality, and those people are usually not worth the font that replies to their posts are typed with.

delta_bravo

Before this derails into anarchy perhaps we could find some common ground. There used to be a great comraderie here between history students (class of 2009) and there was a megathread of discussions between a group of us, usually at 4am with an essay due at 11 that friday .

I am finished in Arts myself, I did History and Geography and finished in 2009 and did an M.A. in Geography last year. I'm back in UCD again doing secondary teaching. I had no problem finding work during my B.A. and worked in banking for 2 years up until August of this year. The degree bore no relevance to my role but showed I was a good worker etc.

So what about the rest of ye? What subject are you doing? What has the B.A. gotten you?

kev9100

Killer Pigeon wrote: »

There is such a stigma attached to Arts in UCD that I can only imagine this thread turning into an Arts bashing thread of sorts or just where Arts students bemoan the fact that they picked Arts in the first place and perhaps contemplate what they're going to do after their degree. No offense but if the general societal stigma to Arts degrees doesn't change, especially in UCD, then that is the only way I expect this thread to go.

Just to be clear, that was most certainly NOT my intention when I started the thread. I just thought it would be a good idea to have a thread for Arts Students to chat and I have every hope that it will be like that:).

[QUOTE=delta_bravo;69329694So what about the rest of ye? What subject are you doing? What has the B.A. gotten you?[/QUOTE]


For the most part, I like it. My majors are French and History and I do Politics and Sociolodgy as well. I have found Arts a bit more difficult than I originally thought(especially French Lit.) and there is quite a lot of reading too. My only real problem with Arts is that there are just so many students and if you don't live on camus it can be difficult to make a solid group of friends.

dyl10

delta_bravo wrote: »

So what about the rest of ye? What subject are you doing? What has the B.A. gotten you?

I finished up the BA last year with an Economics and Geography joint major and am now doing the MA in Geography.

Arts undergrads are incredibly short changed in the service they recieve and you can really see this when you go from BA to MA.

I hope to get work in my field but if I didn't, I think the skills I have picked up in this MA, which is incredibly time and work intensive, would stand to me in any field.

RandomName2

' Hey, hey, lavatory attendant; the lavatory paper dispenser says "Arts Degree - Please Take One" but I can't get any paper from it'

'Or yeah, it's like a coin operated lavatory, only you have to insert 6,000 euro, 36 exam scripts, and around 144,000 written words (of decent quality!) relating to various themes.'

' Oh. That's not terribly funny'

' I know.'

antomorro-sei

Lads, I'm 2nd Year doing a joint major in Politics and Geography. Now, I love Geography, but in all reality, what kind of career can anyone go into with it, and realistically get a job?

RandomName2

antomorro-sei wrote: »

Lads, I'm 2nd Year doing a joint major in Politics and Geography. Now, I love Geography, but in all reality, what kind of career can anyone go into with it, and realistically get a job?

There are dark days for all us arts students when we say

'Yah but in reality I don't have skill to be employed, do I? Hay Mister employer, youwannahearabout Marx?'

Remember to keep the faith! Arts gives you a much better grounding than any specialised degree. Even our science comrades have no specific job lined up from general science - they have to specialise to a serious extent to do that.

In terms of general skills relating to adaptive thinking there is nothing better than arts; the capacity to learn more, to work independently, to be erudite and well educated, to stand your ground when pushed and develop meaningful arguments and strong assessment.

Having said all that in the current economic climate were screwed.

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P.S. Is college open tomorrow?

P.P.S Sorry you wer asking about Geography specifically. 'Fraid its the same as most Arts subjects that it is well... arts. You don't really get many jobs specifying 'geographers'. You might be able to move into other fields such as nggggg... cartography (wow it genuinely hurt to say that seeing as I have google earth link right in front of me)... er... geology (you would have to do a whole course in it)... meterology (again another science course). Teaching? ...

delta_bravo

antomorro-sei wrote: »

Lads, I'm 2nd Year doing a joint major in Politics and Geography. Now, I love Geography, but in all reality, what kind of career can anyone go into with it, and realistically get a job?

A B.A. can get you everywhere and nowhere. Arts won't give you a job. You have to find that for yourself. There is work available for graduates, its just a bit harder to find that in previous years.

antomorro-sei

RandomName2 wrote: »

There are dark days for all us arts students when we say

'Yah but in reality I don't have skill to be employed, do I? Hay Mister employer, youwannahearabout Marx?'

Remember to keep the faith! Arts gives you a much better grounding than any specialised degree. Even our science comrades have no specific job joned up from general science - they have to specialise to a serious extent to do that.

In terms of general skills relating to adaptive thinking there is nothing better than arts; the capacity to learn more, to work independently, to be erudite and well educated, to stand your ground when pushed and develop meaningful arguments and strong assessment.

Having said all that in the current economic climate were screwed.

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P.S. Is college open tomorrow?

P.P.S Sorry you wer asking about Geography specifically. 'Fraid its the same as most Arts subjects that it is well... arts. You don't really get many jobs specifying 'geographers'. You might be able to move into other fields such as nggggg... cartography (wow it genuinely hurt to say that seeing as I have google earth link right in front of me)... er... geology (you would have to do a whole course in it)... meterology (again another science course). Teaching? ...

Cheers. Yeah its closed tomorrow... http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056106568&page=2

Cartography sounds great. Draw maps all day

Seriously though, environmental studies or anything. Can that be done from Geography?

dyl10

antomorro-sei wrote: »

Now, I love Geography, but in all reality, what kind of career can anyone go into with it, and realistically get a job?

There are careers out there in Geography. I fully intend to get one, I just may have to travel.
As DB said above, it's up to you at the end of the day.

antomorro-sei

dyl10 wrote: »

There are careers out there in Geography. I fully intend to get one, I just may have to travel.
As DB said above, it's up to you at the end of the day.

Aye. So guess the best option is to do an MA in Geog and then go find yourself a career?

dyl10

antomorro-sei wrote: »

Aye. So guess the best option is to do an MA in Geog and then go find yourself a career?

Depends what exactly you are interested in.

I believe Maynooth have a really good masters in GIS and Remote Sensing, its part funded by the EU so it is pretty cheap (€2000 I think)
Maynooth is a good place to look in general for Geography specialisation.

Geography is broad, so working out what it is in Geography that you like is important, maybe the MA will help you do that.

Chucky the tree

**Timbuk2** wrote: »

Is anyone doing ECON10010 Principles of Micro-economics? I'm finding it tough enough, especially understanding how a lot of the graphs are drawn. Sometimes it's hard to know even where the figures come from!

If you have never done it before it can be very difficult but if you stick with it's grand. For the exam just keep doing the previous exam papers as a lot of the same questions re appear.

Rojomcdojo wrote: »

Try quantative economics

It's not looking good for me in the upcoming exam. How much and whats the procedure for repeating? (Just in case)

Macroeconomics on the other hand is a piece of piss. Should get a B.
Have microeconomics to look forward to next semester.

Quantative again has a lot of the same stuff that comes up most years on the exam. Even start doing 1 part of 1 question a night for half an hour you will pass it.

Pigwidgeon

meathawk wrote: »

This isn't to bash arts, I mean I couldn't imagine studying anything else. One point I'd like to make is that if you enter DN012 like I did, even if you know people entering it aswell but doing different subjects, it's a very lonely course I find. Music, seems like a very sociable subject but sociology ironically is the loneliest subject. It consists of isolated 3-4 person cliques everywhere and if you aren't in social science, the social aspect is non-existant. The tutorials aren't worth marks anymore so people tend not to turn up.

Ate you me? I could have written this word for word. At least there is a class rep for sociology this year I suppose, although I haven't gone to any of the parties because I don't really know many people in he class and don't want to show up alone.

Although I joined welfare crew this year and have gotten to know quite a few people through it, mainly science people. It'd be nice to know more people doing sociology!

unknown13

kateos2 wrote: »

Although I joined welfare crew this year and have gotten to know quite a few people through it, mainly science people. It'd be nice to know more people doing sociology!

No, it ain't.

Pigwidgeon

unknown13 wrote: »

No, it ain't.

I meant the people I'd gotten to know.

parker kent

kateos2 wrote: »

Ate you me? I could have written this word for word. At least there is a class rep for sociology this year I suppose, although I haven't gone to any of the parties because I don't really know many people in he class and don't want to show up alone.

Although I joined welfare crew this year and have gotten to know quite a few people through it, mainly science people. It'd be nice to know more people doing sociology!

More people should send group emails to classes such as yours suggesting nights out/events for the class. A guy did that very early in one of my classes a few years ago (around 120 people, so not exactly the same as Sociology but still sizeable) and he organised a night out for everybody. It was a great idea and we all made much more friends than we would otherwise have done. Sure beats sitting in a lecture with 2 empty seats either side of you.

A simple email suggesting a few possible dates and maybe an option for an online vote to see what date suits everybody could make a big difference to everybody. I'd suggest it to your class rep if I were you!

Fad

unknown13 wrote: »

No, it ain't.

There is a very high proportion of science in it....

Science and Social Science seem to make up the bulk of it.

SarcasticFairy

kateos2 wrote: »

Although I joined welfare crew this year and have gotten to know quite a few people through it, mainly science people. It'd be nice to know more people doing sociology!

There's loads of social science students in it, too! They're lovely We're gonna have some sort of re-training/extra training/generally outlining goals for the second semester thing next year - you should get to know the SS people! They might not do sociology through arts, but they'll still probably be in some/most of your classes

unknown13 wrote: »

No, it ain't.

In fairness, there's hardly a lack of science students... I'm almost certain there's more science than social science, though it'd be fairly close. There's a good few from Law/B&L/Commerce, and a small amount from arts, and then some random-course people, but the bulk of the welfare crew is made up of science and social science people! Not that it really matters, in any case - once you're done with the whole, introducing yourself thing, nobody really cares/asks what you do

minichunkies

I was looking into Geography and archaeology and that type of thing myself. Isn't it better to take two closely related topics rather than say taking Geography with English?

Mardy Bum

Ray Foley wrote: »

I was looking into Geography and archaeology and that type of thing myself. Isn't it better to take two closely related topics rather than say taking Geography with English?

Its all relative. It depends what you want to do. Are you doing Arts for a job later or are you doing it for an interest in the subjects? If you want to do teaching do subjects which can be thought. If you want to do something geographical do the obvious ones. If you are really interested in two very different subjects do them and see what happens.

HavingCrack

Anyone else done or doing the Fluvial Geomorphology module for 2nd year Geography?? I'm just finding it really difficult to study and I have no problems in any other Geography modules :mad:.

Lou45

HavingCrack wrote: »

Anyone else done or doing the Fluvial Geomorphology module for 2nd year Geography?? I'm just finding it really difficult to study and I have no problems in any other Geography modules :mad:.

In the exact same position, actually screwed for that exam even having all the notes etc!!! Raging we didn't have that last lecture, so many people were relying on it!

antomorro-sei

I'm doing Fluvial Geomorphology too. Be happy with a C in it, even though I'm doing a fair bit of study for it, and been to the vast majority of the lectures!

Political Geography - now, I'm fooked for that