where can you buy militaria in Ireland?

Fuinseog

had something similar in a thread regarding militaria in Dublin, but am also interested in where I can buy military medals around the country.
fairs are the obvious source, but more often than not I end up missing them. otherwise it is difficult to source medals in Ireland. sometimes I get lucky in an army surplus shop, but it is very hit and miss.

I know of a place in Belfast and Athlone, but that is it.

R.Dub.Fusilier

you mentioned LIR in another thread , i bought a couple of medals from him , sold a few to him also but he was tight with the cash. i am sure you try antique shops , i will always drop into them if i am passing , sometimes you can be lucky. but otherwise cant help.

Fuinseog

R.Dub.Fusilier wrote: »

you mentioned LIR in another thread , i bought a couple of medals from him , sold a few to him also but he was tight with the cash. i am sure you try antique shops , i will always drop into them if i am passing , sometimes you can be lucky. but otherwise cant help.

I guess he wants to a make a bit of a profit. i have only been there once and was happy to get a discount.

i have tried antique shops, but rarely found anything and if they did have any, tend to overprice them.

got lucky with russian medals in a second hand shop today.

BlackEdelweiss

Where in Athlone?

Fuinseog

BlackEdelweiss wrote: »

Where in Athlone?

the shop is called Treasures (or at least the word treasures is in the title) near a bridge just up from an Old IRA monument. the guy running it is Louis Walsh. its basically an antique shop, but he has a lot of Irish medals and a few British and Third Reich items. its worth a visit.

Morlar

If you can make it to dublin then I'd recommend the regular militaria fairs (north star or Teachers Club). Dealers from the north and the republic, sometimes france and uk etc, usually a bargain or two to be found on the day. The prices in georgian arcade I find to be excessively high and the choice is very limited.

R.Dub.Fusilier

Fuinseog wrote: »

I guess he wants to a make a bit of a profit. i have only been there once and was happy to get a discount.

i have no problem with people trying to make a few quid and glad you got a discount . i was offered e30 for a WW1 German four medal bar. they even told me they sell the Iorn Cross for e70.

Fuinseog

R.Dub.Fusilier wrote: »

i have no problem with people trying to make a few quid and glad you got a discount . i was offered e30 for a WW1 German four medal bar. they even told me they sell the Iorn Cross for e70.

there is a Czech girl there and seems quite friendly. i have been in medal shops abroad and once you ask the price they do not want anything to do with you.

70 euro should get you an iron cross. i have bought them a lot cheaper. depends on condition and of course maker.

if you are into collecting Bundeswehr items, the shops of Temple Bar have a broad selection of hats and walking out jackets, but i think you are more WW1?

R.Dub.Fusilier

Fuinseog wrote: »

if you are into collecting Bundeswehr items, the shops of Temple Bar have a broad selection of hats and walking out jackets, but i think you are more WW1?

not into Bundeswehr stuff but i usually buy i do have a camo combat jacket that i bought about 15 years ago.i mostly collect WW1 stuff, medals and badges to Irish regiments or Irish men who served in same.

Fuinseog

found a small antique place on the quays in Dublin, between o'connell street and the SIPTU building.
he has a dublin fusiliers cap badge as well as another irish regiment. seriously overpriced and he does not seem to know much about militaria, but maybe worth looking into.

R.Dub.Fusilier

Fuinseog wrote: »

70 euro should get you an iron cross. i have bought them a lot cheaper. depends on condition and of course maker.

here is the medal bar that i was offered e30 for. sorry the pic is not the best.

Morlar

R.Dub.Fusilier wrote: »

here is the medal bar that i was offered e30 for. sorry the pic is not the best.

There are profit margins and then there is taking the piss. An offer of €30 for that is completely taking the piss !!

I would not recommend that georgian arcade place at all (not just because of this €30 offer).

I would say it again but the Dublin fairs are your best bet for choice and price and for the ability to get a 2nd opinion from different dealers and collectors.

North Star or Teachers club being the main ones - the events section has the lowdown on them.

Degsy

Fuinseog wrote: »

found a small antique place on the quays in Dublin, between o'connell street and the SIPTU building.
he has a dublin fusiliers cap badge as well as another irish regiment. seriously overpriced and he does not seem to know much about militaria, but maybe worth looking into.

The guy in that shop was abit strange..he was trying to pass off Tobacco Cards as genuine photographs of hitler and wanted 130 euro for a plaster bust that had been bashed to bits on one side.

Fuinseog

Degsy wrote: »

The guy in that shop was abit strange..he was trying to pass off Tobacco Cards as genuine photographs of hitler and wanted 130 euro for a plaster bust that had been bashed to bits on one side.

interesting observations. was he interested in haggling or did you try?

R.Dub.Fusilier

Degsy wrote: »

The guy in that shop was abit strange..he was trying to pass off Tobacco Cards as genuine photographs of hitler and wanted 130 euro for a plaster bust that had been bashed to bits on one side.

its been a while since i was in that shop but i remember he was trying to pass off del-Pardo model soldiers , the ones you can sometimes get bi-weekly in magazines, as antique items. i only asked about them to see what he would say. he was also looking for mad money for a sh**e bust of churchill.

R.Dub.Fusilier

Morlar wrote: »

There are profit margins and then there is taking the piss. An offer of €30 for that is completely taking the piss !!

I would not recommend that georgian arcade place at all (not just because of this €30 offer).

I would say it again but the Dublin fairs are your best bet for choice and price and for the ability to get a 2nd opinion from different dealers and collectors.

North Star or Teachers club being the main ones - the events section has the lowdown on them.

you can see why i didnt take her offer, she seemed a bit pissed off when i said no to it . she couldnt understand how i felt that a cross on its own would cost around e60 and i wasnt going to take e30 for four good medals. i'm glad i didnt sell its a nice group.

i have never sold anything in the North Star or Teachers club but have got good stuff at both of them .

MedalFuhrer

My sister bought me a nice medal for Christmas. I found out through my niece after some subtle proding that the shop where she bought it wanted 200 Euro for it, but that she haggled him down to 160 yo-yos.
The going rate for the medal is about 60 Euros. :eek: I obviously could never tell her this as she was good enough to spend weeks wondering what to buy me and looking for shops in Dublin. But what a rip off merchant!! :mad:

Morlar

MedalFuhrer wrote: »

My sister bought me a nice medal for Christmas. I found out through my niece after some subtle proding that the shop where she bought it wanted 200 Euro for it, but that she haggled him down to 160 yo-yos.
The going rate for the medal is about 60 Euros. :eek: I obviously could never tell her this as she was good enough to spend weeks wondering what to buy me and looking for shops in Dublin. But what a rip off merchant!! :mad:

It's infuriating to see honest people being ripped off like that !

BlackEdelweiss

I called in to the place in Athlone last week when I was down that way. He had a couple of Irish medals and that was it, nothing that interested me, he said he had a few German medals a while back but never got more once they were sold.

Fuinseog

BlackEdelweiss wrote: »

I called in to the place in Athlone last week when I was down that way. He had a couple of Irish medals and that was it, nothing that interested me, he said he had a few German medals a while back but never got more once they were sold.

I was there a year ago and he also had British medals. as regards third reich, the selection isn't great in this country.

HerrScheisse

I never understood why there are so many shysters in militaria dealing?

I was at a fair some time ago and the dealer had a medal that interested me - the going rate is around 300 euro. So I was hugely surprised when he said it was 30 euro. I asked him was it repro and he said that it was not. Then I turned it sideways and it had a very clear circular cast line around the rim :eek:

Alright I wouldn't have been burned as much as MedalFuhrer was but 30 euro for a cast is still wasted money.

arnhem44

Online Irish dealers are also an option,dealers of course will charge dealer prices but worth keeping in mind and there are a few out there.

wyndham

Saw this and thought there may be interest in here. (I don't have any interest and have no idea of prices, etc)

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/antiques/1618249

Huge Military collection

Irish Liquidators has been asked to sell a fantastic collection of military items. The collections comprises of Uniforms, Hats, knifes and bayonets, Medals, cap badges and insignia. Some of the highlights inc AN RAF 5 medal group inc 2 stars and good conduct medal Named and an Irish civil war ammo pouch, There is too much to list so its worth a visit to the shop to see the complete collection. As well as a selection of full dress uniforms there is medals from Great Britain, Germany, France, U.S and U.N as well as a great selection of cap badges, patches and insignia, ammo, magazines and pouches.

Morlar

wyndham wrote: »

Saw this and thought there may be interest in here. (I don't have any interest and have no idea of prices, etc)

http://www.donedeal.ie/for-sale/antiques/1618249

Huge Military collection

Irish Liquidators has been asked to sell a fantastic collection of military items. The collections comprises of Uniforms, Hats, knifes and bayonets, Medals, cap badges and insignia. Some of the highlights inc AN RAF 5 medal group inc 2 stars and good conduct medal Named and an Irish civil war ammo pouch, There is too much to list so its worth a visit to the shop to see the complete collection. As well as a selection of full dress uniforms there is medals from Great Britain, Germany, France, U.S and U.N as well as a great selection of cap badges, patches and insignia, ammo, magazines and pouches.

Does anyone know the Name of that shop and the address ?

wyndham

From the ad:

The shop is open from 10-6 Mon-Sat and sun 11-5 and is on the Straffan to Clane Rd in County Kildare. We also have a 25% sale so our prices are great value. Also 100+ military books

Think it's called Irish Liquidators.

Fuinseog

there is a place in Dublin one, just off dorset street. its a military model shop, but it has a few Irish and british badges as well as WW2 reenactor equipment including SS cuff titles for a tenner.

danpatjoe

arnhem44 wrote: »

Online Irish dealers are also an option,dealers of course will charge dealer prices but worth keeping in mind and there are a few out there.

Irish dealers? Can you give us some links?
The only one I am aware of is:
http://theirishwar.com/

Regards - Dan

arnhem44

danpatjoe wrote: »

Irish dealers? Can you give us some links?
The only one I am aware of is:
http://theirishwar.com/

Regards - Dan

Hi Dan,There isn't many but I'll put up what ones I know when I get a chance(tomorrow most likely).Some will be cross border and some here.

BlackEdelweiss

I'm only guessing but I would say they would be way overpriced compared to other worldwide dealers. If you are buying online the only extra cost will be postage and if buying from a dealer where this kind of stuff is more accessible then I cannot imagine an Irish dealer being able to match their prices even including postage. I am green with envy of people living on mainland europe or the USA who have access to these vast militaria shows, shops and even the ability to search for veterans looking to sell their bring backs. Just another drawback to living on an island at the edge of the world.

arnhem44

First off I have nothing to do with any of these sites,prices you will see will vary from very expensive to reasonably priced so make of them what you will.

http://irishhistoricalmilitaria.com/

http://www.ww2depot.com/catalog/index.php?osCsid=06beacde97830c17f708065e3014db72

http://www.protac.ie/store/index.php/

http://www.iol.ie/~coinsandmedals/

http://www.frontlinemilitaria.co.uk/index.html

http://www.northirishmilitaria.com/aboutus.asp

http://www.cookstownantiques.com/10324/info.php?p=6&pno=0

A couple without websites

Abba Coins, Cards & Militaria
42 Rosscoole Park, Belfast, County Antrim, BT14 8JX
Tel: 01232-710115

http://www.blackrockmarket.com/thecollectorsshop.html

And surplus

http://armyshop.ie/index.php?menu=2

Fuinseog

http://www.protac.ie/store/index.php/

a nice selection.


protac makes his own stuff and supplies the army. some stuff is of good quality, other stuff less so.
a lot of soldiers are critical of him.
as regards the collectibles no one is going to fork out 1000 euros for a PDF sword. they can be had for a lot less.

now that I think of it the is an army surplus in Killarney at the outlet. last time I was there they had bayonets for the steyr for sale. expect to pay about 100 e for it.

R.Dub.Fusilier

heres a link to a site up north. dont know anything about it but has some nice and expensive stuff.

http://www.percussioncap.co.uk/index.html

i have got stuff from the bloke that runs this site at the teachers club so if you have a problem its easy to catch up with him. he has good stuff and i have bought medals from him in the past.
http://www.iol.ie/~coinsandmedals/

Morlar

I think it's worth pointing out to any newer collectors that some of those online links are incredibly expensive.

You would pick many of those items up a lot cheaper either at auctions, militaria fairs (look under events above) or from foreign based online militaria dealers or from classified adverts on militaria forum websites.

danpatjoe

Morlar wrote: »

I think it's worth pointing out to any newer collectors that some of those online links are incredibly expensive........

Agreed, There are some crazy prices being asked. It seems to be the way in Ireland.

I happened upon a little shop in Carrick on Shannon, Co. Leitrim that has some bits and pieces of militaria for sale - a few random bayonets and some medals - mostly British and South African named medal bars. Sadly also very expensive. They also wanted €75 for an unmarked WW1 EK2 with replaced ribbon, and €50 for one with a broken suspension ring (drilled through the frame with an incorrectly replaced ring and ribbon)!!:eek:

I talked to the owner and he tried to convince me that they were very competitive prices... needless to say, I did not purchase.

Morlar

danpatjoe wrote: »

Agreed, There are some crazy prices being asked. It seems to be the way in Ireland.

I happened upon a little shop in Carrick on Shannon, Co. Leitrim that has some bits and pieces of militaria for sale - a few random bayonets and some medals - mostly British and South African named medal bars. Sadly also very expensive. They also wanted €75 for an unmarked WW1 EK2 with replaced ribbon, and €50 for one with a broken suspension ring (drilled through the frame with an incorrectly replaced ring and ribbon)!!:eek:

I talked to the owner and he tried to convince me that they were very competitive prices... needless to say, I did not purchase.

I have seen similair prices at militaria shops in Normandy, an infamous one in St Mere Eglise springs to mind. The owners know that 99.9% of militaria collectors will laugh at the prices and keep on walking, but all it takes is the 1% of new or non medal collectors to pay and then they stay in business. They are there for years and years so their approach seems to catch enough unsuspecting victims to allow them to stay in business.

Likewise with the online ones, there are some dealers who have items they know are completely overpriced but it costs them nothing to leave them on their site for years and years and years then one day someone knew happens along and thinks this must be a correct price and then they pay it. I know of some dealers with inventory sitting on their websites year in and year out - other collectors I know have commented on this too.

Another tactic i have seen is in captioning items, ie this is a 'Winterschlacht im Osten' medal from Stalingrad . . . .oh really and how do you know that it's from Stalingrad and why should I believe you ?

ollaetta

Morlar wrote: »

I have seen similair prices at militaria shops in Normandy, an infamous one in St Mere Eglise springs to mind..

I presume you mean S***** Line, crazy tourist trap prices. Getting reasonably priced items in Normandy is not easy and you can forget it in towns like St. Mere Eglise especially anytime around June 6th.

Sorry for going slightly off topic.

Fuinseog

there is a place in Carlingford that sells a lot of repro Third Reich and 1916 stuff. he does has a few genuine articles as well. if you are interested check him out soon as the Mail on Sunday is spearheading a campaign to have him closed down (apparently selling anything with a swastika on it is akin to selling kiddie porn)

Fozzydog3

can someone say €75 for a spanish FR-8 bayonet ?

sick as a dog

I should have questioned the morals of a man who will sell a bayonet to a 14 year old

Dr Strange

Fozzydog3 wrote: »

can someone say €75 for a spanish FR-8 bayonet ?

sick as a dog

I should have questioned the morals of a man who will sell a bayonet to a 14 year old

What's this in connection with?

Fozzydog3

Preusse wrote: »

What's this in connection with?

people were talking about there previous experiences with overpriced militaria thus i responded with with my previous experience/ knowledge on the subject to promote conversation

WilcoOut

R.Dub.Fusilier wrote: »

here is the medal bar that i was offered e30 for. sorry the pic is not the best.

how much would i expect to pay to get some royal dublin fusilier insignia?

and where can i get some!?

R.Dub.Fusilier

WilcoOut wrote: »

how much would i expect to pay to get some royal dublin fusilier insignia?

and where can i get some!?

i got the badges i have at fairs in dublin and some from the internet. i got most from the fair in the North Star Hotel and a couple from the fair in the Teachers Club. if you get a good dealer you can get insignia from e20 up. i bought from the same dealer in the NS Hotel and would go back to him at the next fair if i wanted something and it would build up a bit of a working relationship with him and it was easier to haggle with him and he would give me a discount if i was buying a couple of things from him.

its harder to buy from the net as you dont get the feel of the item and if the item is priced low and looks too good to be true then keep away from it as it is probably fake/restrike , unless thats what you want?. i was caught out a couple of times.

Razspur

I have a 1916-1921 Service Medal, bought along with a coin collection, on research it is being sold from 450-1100 Euros retail online. Two dealers I offered it too in Belfast and Dublin offered £275 (330euro) and 300euro. It is the non-combatant type without Comrac Bar. Can anyone advise if this is a fair price and would I do better to wait for the Feb Coin Fair at the RDS ?

danpatjoe

Razspur wrote: »

I have a 1916-1921 Service Medal, bought along with a coin collection, on research it is being sold from 450-1100 Euros retail online. Two dealers I offered it too in Belfast and Dublin offered £275 (330euro) and 300euro. It is the non-combatant type without Comrac Bar. Can anyone advise if this is a fair price and would I do better to wait for the Feb Coin Fair at the RDS ?

If it has its original coffin-case these offers might be ok, but if it is just the medal on its own, then jump on it. Lately, these non-combatant medals (without case) usually go for about €200. I picked one up recently for €180. Having the original case will certainly increase the value, but note that a lot of sellers are offering these with the green case from the anniversary medals, claiming that they are the correct case.

Regards - Dan

billymc1

hi if anyone can help me im looking for a war of independence comrac medal to add to my collection tks billy

The Dragon

Hi,

I read Georges Street Arcade was mentioned. I remember last time I stopped by I saw alot of fake Third Reich items for sale. One cross in particular that stood out was a fake Mother's Cross. Caution is advised when buying medals but in all fairness I think coins, bank notes and phone cards are his area of expertise.

I have this dealers business card and details for anyone that may be interested.

Lir Coins & Collectables / Edited by moderator. Please do not post the names and mobile numbers here. You could ask other posters to contact you via PN for contact details if you wish to do that.

Kind Regards

Winston Churchill

I have been attending militaria fairs both North and South of the border for about ten years. I always pick up business cards, bring them home and put them into a shoe box. I will go through the shoe box when I get home and see what may be of interest to you all.

I wont post personal information such as names or phone numbers because this is against the rules.

Winston Churchill

Most of the business cards and flyers in mys shoe box contained personal information ie names of the individuals were also used in their e-mails addresses which means I won't post them but here is a small list of what I can post.

Winston Churchill

Specialising in Irish Militaria

Cairn Castle Militaria

www.cairncastlemilitaria.com


Also on facebook as Cairn Castle Militaria

The website contains a links section with further links to other militaria dealers.

Winston Churchill

Outpost Militaria

E-mail: outpostmilitaria@gmail.com

No website. I believe a Third Reich dealer.

Winston Churchill

I bought from this dealer maybe ten years ago at fairs. He has since given up doing fairs and only uses his website now. A pity because he had in my opinion one of the best selections of militaria.

www.military-medals-online.com