gg.com/timeform/sportinglife "venn diagram" picks

mike65

This is the approach coughlan08 used for most of his horse bets recently, being "system bet" you should really follow blind

Ffos Las
12.50 First Fandango win
13.20 Tea for three win
15.00 Kilcrea Kim win
16.05 Grovemere lose

Kempton
12.30 Bobs Worth win
13.00 Dee Ee Williams win
14.05 Andytown lose

Ludlow
12.40 Natureofthebeast lose
14.15 Mud Monkey lose FELL
14.50 Phidippides win

ft9

Brilliant Mike thanks, I do not have the time to go through these each day, delighted to be able follow your selections

El Horseboxo

I haven't got the slightest bit of knowledge on horses but i done the above for 2 weeks. Just writing them down on paper after a lot of cross referencing. The idea was to post them up in my log but i got bored of doing that after about 2 days. Anyways if i had of bet on them all for the 2 weeks i would have been up probably a grand if i nailed a good staking pattern. I just don't have the balls to bet on horses though. Don't know what it is. Maybe because it just seemed so easy doing this "system" and i don't trust things that are too easy. Anyways good luck. Seems profitable once you stick at it.

Johner

6 winners so far.

rossit

well done to ya buddie hope it keeps going for yeah 6 winners on your first day not to shabby at all:cool:

mike65

Terrible short odds though, less than evens for most winners.

rossit

a winner at evs is better then a 1000/1 loser, and 6 of them bud well thats pretty **** hot

Gavin "shels"

Nice idea, any reason you don't use the ATR tips?

mike65

Cos its nothing to do with this system.

Nulty

rossit wrote: »

a winner at evs is better then a 1000/1 loser, and 6 of them bud well thats pretty **** hot

Yes but:

Ffos Las
12.50 First Fandango win 2/7 .29
13.20 Tea for three win 4/5 .80
15.00 Kilcrea Kim win 1/1 1
16.05 Grovemere lose

Kempton
12.30 Bobs Worth win 4/9 .44
13.00 Dee Ee Williams win 1/2 .5
14.05 Andytown lose

Ludlow
12.40 Natureofthebeast lose
14.15 Mud Monkey lose FELL
14.50 Phidippides win 2/7 .29

Returns .32 LSP from 10 bets after losses. 3.2%

These horses should win. You need at least 6 of them to win so that you don't lose money. They are animals runninng miles and jumping fences. They can be brought down, fall, run out, refuse to race, unseat rider, go wrong, saddle slip etc. etc. And many of these shorties are novices. Factor all that into a 2/7 shot! I don't know what SP the losers were.

mike65

Lingfield
13.20 L'Accordioniste win
14.50 Aztec Treasure lose
15.50 Keys win

Sedgefield
13.00 Dorabelle win
14.30 Schinken Otto lose

Southwell
12:10 Spyder lose

rossit

good point im new to this horse racing thing you sound like a man that knows his stuff,buti still think he did well enough be interesting to see how it run .good luck to ya

mike65

Note I have included an oddschecker preview link so you can see the exchange prices and two write ups.

Kempton
17.35 Corsican Boy lose
18.05 Prince Of Burma win

Lingfield
12.30 Paphos lose

Wetherby
13:20 Palace Jester win
15:00 Aberdale win

Naas
12:55 Osana lose
13.25 Alaivan win

Nulty

mike65 wrote: »

Lingfield
13.20 L'Accordioniste win 2/7 .29
14.50 Aztec Treasure lose
15.50 Keys win 1/2 .5

Sedgefield
13.00 Dorabelle win 6/4 1.5
14.30 Schinken Otto lose

Southwell
12:10 Spyder lose

returns -.71 LSP. Thats 'your' money from yesterday gone. Albeit these are SP and not best earlies.

mike65

The "shape" of the fields over the last few days has been terrible, the shorties are horribly short and far from cast iron. The risk/reward ratio means I'm not backing these horses.

Juwwi

Its a bit early to be knocking this system Nulty.

It looks an interesting thread Mike and worth trying for a week or two if you have the time imo.
I will be keeping a eye on it with interest.

The beauty of it for me is the tips are up the night before not like hugh taylor or pricewise systems.

Technique

A lot of people use this system to lay horses, the thinking being that so many people get on them that the prices offered can be stupidly low. So based on the last 2 days, the smart money was in laying them.

coughlan08

doesnt matter what any1 says about this system as it works if you use it in the right way..i.e doubles. ive made thousands so nuff said about the matter...:rolleyes:

The Walsho

Also note that coughlan would get good prices early on, and used different stakes depending on his confidence, along with doubling up some of them.

mike65

Updated, a few decent prices and a couple of shorties and Osana which is one of 3 likely winners in a 5 runner race!

ft9

Good day today Mike!

mike65

(gg.com picked 6 of 7 winners at Wetherby today though not one at Chepstow!)

Newbury
13.00 Alverstone Lose
13.35 Finian's Rainbow win

Taunton
16:00 Minnie Hill lose

Uttoxeter
12.20 Silver Gypsy win
14:00 Marino Prince win

Wolverhampton
17:10 Jack Smudge lose
18:10 Crimson China win
18:40 Realisation lose

Thurles
13.05 Sivota lose

Nulty

Allow me to share my opinion at least. I'm not knocking it, I'm just pointing out the down side cause its rare that anyone else does.

mike65

gg.com picked 5 winners on the bounce at Uttoxeter, the 6th pulled up and the 7th placed.

Lingfield
14:00 My Vindication lose

Musselburgh
12:10 Auberge lose
12.40 Meetings Man lose
13:50 Mini Beck lose
14:55 Kosta Brava win
15:30 First Rock win

Newbury
12:30 Dolatulo lose

Wolverhampton
16:00 Shostakovich lose

No picks for Dundalk.

Con1110

Ive tried this before mike.
Half the days you will make a small profit
around a quarter roughly break even
then the rest are major losses.
Its worth trying of course but thts how i see it

mike65

Newbury
12:25 Binocular
14:30 Big Buck's

and thats your lot

board_stiff

Con1110 wrote: »

Ive tried this before mike.
Half the days you will make a small profit
around a quarter roughly break even
then the rest are major losses.
Its worth trying of course but thts how i see it

Would it make sense then to do the opposite and lay every horse?

jjll

mike65 wrote: »

Newbury
12:25 Binocular
14:30 Big Buck's

and thats your lot

binocular needed the run when mccoy saw he was beat took it easy i still think he will beat pedlars cross at cheltenham..... big bucks is a machine always always hit flat spots best stayer around by far and i doubt he was 100% fit never that will be a distance bet at cheltenham i think i sometimes beat odds on to get a few quid back but its not a way to go with small stakes i feel

mike65

Folkestone
abandoned

Wolverhampton
15:50 Sheila's Star win
17:20 Master At Arms lose

mike65

Lingfield
13:15 Matsunosuke
13:45 Piceno
14:40 Dark Promise
15:40 Rio Royale

Southwell
15:30 Ubenkor

8-10

mike65 wrote: »

Lingfield
13:15 Matsunosuke
13:45 Piceno
14:40 Dark Promise
15:40 Rio Royale

Southwell
15:30 Ubenkor

Think only one of these won. Mike what happened to this thread? I'd be interested in giving it a few weeks to see what it's like.

Today's picks as I see them, for the sake of it:

cork

13.20 bishopsfurze
15:20 Golden Silver
15.50 Blazing Tempo.

huntington

14:05 Twist Magic
15.35 Journeyman.

southwell

13.15 Majuro
13.45 Olney Lass
14.45 Takajan

Only going small stakes to check it out.

mike65

What happened? two things - first we were down a one card a day in the freeze and second I fell ill and didn't feel up to doing this.

Anyway for the sake of continuity

Cork
14.50 Riltree lose

Wolverhampton
15:20 Steps win
17:20 Lady Rossetti lose

mike65

Catterick
14:15 Calypso Bay lose

Folkestone
13:05 Strategic Approach lose pulled up
15:35 Rudinero lose

Southwell
12:25 Finn's Rainbow lose
13:55 Nazreef win
14:55 Faithful Duchess lose

mike65

Bangor
15:35 Kings Lodge lose

Fairyhouse
12:20 Zaidpour win
13:55 Tranquil Sea win

Lingfield
12:05 Dream Of Fortune lose
13:05 March On Beetroot win
13:40 Dark Promise win
14:15 Mind The Monarch lose
15:25 Albertus Pictor lose

Newbury
15:45 Tante Sissi lose

mike65

Exeter
12:50 Silver Gypsy win
15:20 Wymott win
15:50 Hot Tottie lose

Kempton
17:00 Crystal Gale lose

Towcester
12:40 Stolen Thunder lose

mike65

Ascot
14:45 Tanks For That void

Southwell
12:05 Ebraam lose
15:30 Adam De Beaulieu lose

Wolverhampton
14:05 Malpas Missile win
16:50 John Potts win

mike65

Navan
13:15 Hidden Cyclone n/r
15:25 Soul Of Aran lose

mike65

Kempton
13:20 Dark Lover lose

mike65

Lingfield
12:35 Motirani
14:05 Fantasy Gladiator

Southwell
12:50 Inthesettlement
13:20 First Rock
14:50 Alfie Flits
15:20 Priceless Art

mike65

Lingfield
12:05 Lady Rosamunde lose

Southwell
14:30 Bivouac lose

mike65

Kempton
17:50 Lady Rosamunde n/r
18:20 Energizing win

Leopardstown
12:50 Zaidpour lose
13:20 Big Zeb win

Newbury
13:00 Punchestowns lose
15:20 Big Buck's win

Wolverhampton
14:00 Amica win

mike65

Down Royal
12:10 Dylan Ross (IRE)

Kempton
17:40 Pipers Piping
18:10 Fascination
19:10 Chilli Green

Leopardstown
13:00 Toner D'Oudairies

Taunton
15:00 Super Kenny

All losers

mike65

Lingfield
13:00 Mongoose Alert win
13:30 Sarah's Art win

Tramore
13:05 Wee Giant lose

Uttoxeter
12:10 Maxdelas win

L'prof

Just out of curiosity, can you remember if you've had all winners on any day? It's just that the prices are usually small enough and I was wondering whether it would be worth risking laying the accum?

mike65

I don't think its happened yet. After yersterday I wondered about laying the lot, myself!

mike65

Cheltenham
12:20 Bobs Worth win
14:35 Carole's Legacy lose
15:45 Keys win

Exeter
12:40 Mr Hudson lose
13:15 Bermuda Boy win
16:00 Morgan's Bay lose

Fakenham
12:00 Sire De Grugy win

Southwell
12:15 Luck Of The Draw win

mike65

Ayr
15:30 Border Flora lose

Folkestone
13:50 Ballybach win
15:55 Zelos Diktator win

mike65

Ayr
13:00 Nafaath lose

Cork
13.40 Duc De Savoie lose
15:15 Morning Supreme win
15:45 Fasolo win

Hereford
13:55 Pearlysteps win
14:25 Not Talking lose

Lingfield
13:45 Raduis Bleu lose
14:50 Shinrock Hill win

Southwell
15:15 Exopuntia lose

mike65

Kempton
14:30 Quality Art win

Leicester
13:20 Frascati Park win

mike65

Lingfield
14:25 Investment World lose

Southwell
12:40 Bellvano lose
14:40 Sonic Anthem lose
15:10 Problema Tic win

mike65

Huntingdon
14:10 Cucumber Run win
15:40 Ericht win

Southwell
13.20 Benato The Great lose
15:20 Caramelita win
15:50 Dontpaytheferryman win

Thurles
13:35 Burnt Oil Babe lose

Wolverhampton
16:10 Shutterbug lose
16:40 Madam Mayem win