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Renting in Ballymun/Santry?

  • 21-11-2010 1:21pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭


    Hi guys,

    Looking for new place to rent by the end of next month and can't help getting tempted from the prices of apartments in Ballymun/Santry Cross.

    On Daft, apartments are showing as about 700-800 for a decent 2 bedroom apartment.

    My question, what is it like to live in the Ballymun area nowadays?

    Is it safe, regarding walking at night (I walk every night after work) and for parking?

    I have heard conflicting things, that is a new and improved area and not as bad as it used to be, and others sayings the situation is still as bad theres just some new buildings there now.

    Any help or advice is much appreciated.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 4,575 Mod ✭✭✭✭dory


    It depends where you're living. There's a big area between one end of Santry and the other end of Ballymun. I lived on DCU campus, so in the general area and never had a problem. I really liked the area. Occasionally there were gangs of teenagers hanging around but that happens everywhere.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,588 ✭✭✭Bluetonic


    dory wrote: »
    Occasionally there were gangs of teenagers hanging around but that happens everywhere.
    Thats generally what happens in college alright.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    I lived in Santry Cross for the guts of two years, in two different apartments (had to move to a bigger one because we were expecting a baby).

    The side of the road where the hotel is better in general, cleaner, more quiet, more secure.

    The apartments on the other side of the road were a nightmare, kids regularly hanging out outside my kitchen window (i lived on the top floor) in the night time, lift was always out of order, people left their bins in the hallway rather than bring them down to the basement where the big bins were, car park was always being broken into. Kids abseiling down the side of the building with rope. Notified the management company several times and nothing was done about it (this was the Turnpike).

    Ballymun itself was fine, never any bother.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Hi
    I have to say it is really fine in these areas. I myself am from Finglas but I currently live in Bordeaux, France studying a PhD in Chemistry and lived in Cambridge before that. I would have no hasitation to move back to Finglas. My brother did Astrophysics...yes and we are all from Finglas. 2 of my friends from school in Finglas studied in Havard, 1 in Havard Medical School and the other again in Astro Physics at Havard.

    So I really dont see what the issue is. Finglas area mingles with Ballymun/Glasanevin. In fact when my Grandparents moved to Finglas in the 1940's it was all Finglas and then parts came under the name Glasanevin North or Ballymun.

    Where my parents live in Finglas, the neighbours are quite old, in their late 70s and 80s. The neighbours have worked in the US and one even helped build the Empire State Building. They are really friendly.

    Each time I meet up with my school friends work colleagues, they ask us where we are from...I say Finglas...and they say...oh you as well? But you dont have a Finglas accent???? I mean as if im meant to have 10 kids and be on crack cocaine or something??

    Off course certain parts have a bad reputation, but even then its just a few bad apples. In school everybody was from really nice families...they were all human at the end of the day (shock horror). Ive never had any problems and its only 10 minute drive into the city centre. Taxi's are only about 12 euro home after a night out. The 40N nightlink is about 4 euro home from town. The Botanic Gardens is close by which is really nice. The Autoban pub is quite nice. Its not so far to the Phoenix Park which is brillant for jogging in and I really love it there.

    You have Charlestown Shopping Centre, Lidl, Aldi, Tesco and Superquinn in Finglas. You then have IKEA in Ballymun and the the Omni Centre in Santry.

    The only time crime is involved, is if people personally get involved in Drugs issues etc...which if your a normal person will never ever involve you, and therefore you will not see it at all. I have to say the people I know from the Northside, are the most down to earth people I have ever met (and I have recently lived in Cornwall, Cambridge, Bordeaux and San Francisco). I personally cant wait to move back to Finglas (I know you asked about Ballymun/Santry...but Finglas had alot of development around the back of Ballymun, around St.Margarets road/Charlestown SC....it also has the M50 and Dublin Airport on its doorstep as well as DCU).

    Oh just to add...im female and never had any problems walking home from the bus stop to my home late at night in Finglas. In fact i recently had to change my hair colour from Blonde to Black in Bordeaux, France because I was getting so much hassle from the Arabs and Muslim men...I never felt safer then I did in Finglas.
    You really cannot go wrong ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Are you a student in DCU? Well if you would consider...I recommend Jamestown Road, Ballygall Road West direction in Finglas East. You have access to the 17A bus outside Superquinn, the Finglas East Post Office or across from St. Canice's Boys School on Ballygal Road East.

    You also have quite a few buses into the city centre...104, 83, 40s and 19s. You can also get the 220 out to Blanchardstown SC (but this is not so regular). If you have a car or bicycle you can get around easily too. Finglas Village also has lots of great Chinese take-aways and Tesco's/Lidl/Aldi stock lots of cheap alcohol, which is brillant coming up to Christmas if you want to invite friends around for Raclette or Fondue and Wine evening ;)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 156 ✭✭Cranky Mc Funhouse


    Its actually extremely common for PhDs from across the globe to end up homeless in the Ballymun/Finglas area. I can't count the times I've been stopped by some homeless guy trying to sell me some lab. notes in exchange for crack money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Its actually extremely common for PhDs from across the globe to end up homeless in the Ballymun/Finglas area. I can't count the times I've been stopped by some homeless guy trying to sell me some lab. notes in exchange for crack money.

    Hmmm well Ive been out of Ireland too long to get your humour...but I can tell you all my friends from Finglas have gone on to get Masters and PhDs and have really successful jobs in Irish Embasy's, UN etc across the world. Its just like any other place in Ireland to live and about 15 minute drive to Malahide, Howth etc...but also close to town. Its a great place to live and Im very happy to have worked for high paid European Schlorship PhD and not only represented Ireland...but Finglas on a Global level.

    I really love it and cant wait to go back to Finglas for Christmas...oh how its so lucky to live there. Sure the view of the Chateau and Vineyard is brillant everyday in Bordeaux...but Finglas is the best place to live.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Oh and just to add...the houses are nearly the same price to rent as appartments. So I think you would benefit more with a house. There alot of older estabiblished houses with large gardens (100 m long) in these areas. The reason being, if you are in an appartment, you have neighbours below, above, left, right and in front of you!!! Thats so much potential for things to go wrong. At least in a semi detached house you just have 1 real neighbour joining to the wall of your house. Not to mention the older houses are usually well built and therefore the walls are not paper tin or shoe box quality. There are many old nice houses around Finglas East, Ballygal Road West and Santry area.

    They also have the benefit of nice old trees in the gardens. If you have a car...you can live anywhere in these area's. If you are depending on a bus, just check around 5 minutes walk from the villages so you can get the bus quickly into the city centre. Come on, realistic, you will prob spend most of your time socialising in the city centre as its only 10 mins away. Or even in Phisboro/Drumcondra in the Porterhouse/John McGowans. So the pubs in these area's are not so important. All you want is good access to shops, take-away and bus/motorway/city/taxi's and these area's are perfect!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    Are you a student in DCU?

    Hiya, no i'm not a student. Working in Swords, currently living in Rathgar and just want somewhere a bit closer to work that is decent and a decent price and still near the city (but not centre).

    Also, needs to be near bus routes as my partner doesn't own a car, yet.

    Just generally want a nice, clean, bright 2 bed apartment, near tesco/lidl and the like in a nice area that I can walk in at night after work. Also somewhere with a secure car park.

    The apartments in Ballymun are enticing me because there are some really decent looking 2 bed apartments going for 750, I was just wondering is it a safe area now.

    Thanks for the comments guys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    The apartments on the other side of the road were a nightmare, kids regularly hanging out outside my kitchen window (i lived on the top floor) in the night time, lift was always out of order, people left their bins in the hallway rather than bring them down to the basement where the big bins were, car park was always being broken into. Kids abseiling down the side of the building with rope. Notified the management company several times and nothing was done about it (this was the Turnpike).

    Ballymun itself was fine, never any bother.

    Hi Adrieanne,

    Can you please tell me a little bit more about the terrible apartments so I know what to steer clear from? I have noticed a few nice apts on Santry Cross which I am interested in viewing but don't want to waste my time going to the nightmare ones.

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Monife wrote: »
    Hiya, no i'm not a student. Working in Swords, currently living in Rathgar and just want somewhere a bit closer to work that is decent and a decent price and still near the city (but not centre).

    Also, needs to be near bus routes as my partner doesn't own a car, yet.

    Just generally want a nice, clean, bright 2 bed apartment, near tesco/lidl and the like in a nice area that I can walk in at night after work. Also somewhere with a secure car park.

    The apartments in Ballymun are enticing me because there are some really decent looking 2 bed apartments going for 750, I was just wondering is it a safe area now.

    Thanks for the comments guys.

    I dont know if you would get everything you ask for no matter what area of Dublin you were looking into!!! I mean NEW appartments will mean young couples, maybe students having parties, or young families with the walls being paper tin.

    Whereas if your willing to look at older more established houses in the area you will have a really quite life.

    I am not sure exactly where you are talking about? Is it near Santry Lane? In the old Santry Woods area?? Santry Woods and the new development looks nice inside there. I have to say i have used the 17A bus alot from Omni Shopping Centre/Santry Lane to Finglas Village and standing around that particular bus stop has been abit scary for me on Santry Lane at night. Thou ive never had any trouble it has been scary and ive never been scared around Finglas....

    Whereas walking around Finglas Village home has been really safe as it there are quite alot of elderly people around that area. Glasnevin Avenue has some really great fine houses and not so far from where you are talking about. Griffith Avenue is also nice. I do not know what bus routes are like but they are on the main road. The 19s service DCU and all the students, so I think around Ballymun Ave etc in the older houses is quite nice to live in.

    I would say Finglas, Glasnevin, Santry are definitely quiter then Ballymun. Theres alot of houses built around the 1930s that in those areas, similar to Rathgar which are quite nice. I would avoid anything too new that is going to have lots of kids hanging around.

    Since my gym was out in Swords, I used to get the 41s, 16s etc to Santry Lane and then switch to the 17A bus. I dont live in that area and never had any problems, but that junction is not so great. Its a bit isolated if you are waiting for a bus alone at night. Whereas I was always used to being in Finglas Village where its not very far from the Garda Station, so it feels safer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    Are the Glasnevin, Finglas, Santry areas diverse?

    By that I mean, is there a wide range of nationalities and is there more (than usual) discrimination there?

    I ask this, because my partner is non-national, I am Irish. :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Oh yes, I dont want to give away too much details as to exactly where im from online. But there is a nice mix of people around Finglas East down to Tolka Valley/Ballygal Road East up to around Willowpark (where Bono is from), be it Dublin people, people from the country (my grandparents were from Westmeath and settled in Finglas), and Europeans and other nationalities. There is definitely not many Europeans in these area's now because of the countries situation compared to what there used to be.

    I tried looking on Daft.ie to see where this "Santry Cross" is. It is basically off Ballymun village by the looks of things? I think they were built when the flats were knocked down and to move people from the old Ballymun Flats into these new houses/appartments, so I would avoid those type of developments. Balbutcher Lane I found was to be not the most pleasent and its closeby. Thou again nothing has ever happened to me. And now there is the huge IKEA nearby, things might have changed but its still a place I would not like to live full time.

    In that area, I think the Northwood area was private and in the old Santry woods...which seems ok. But again, if your going to get buses, I dunno. I only got the 17A bus and its not the nicest.

    You are better off sticking a bit closer to where the DCU campus is as its really well serviced with buses. Or around Glasnevin Ave area in the older districts. Also N2 is well serviced with buses and a quick hop onto M50 in the back way on 1 stop pass IKEA.

    You also want to think about mornings etc and traffic. All these developments were built around what used to be "Country Lane". So stick to the main road areas and you will be fine getting to Swords. My friend was living in Ashtown near Phoenix Park...which is lovely but nightmare to get in and out off.

    I dont know where in Swords you work...but Swords is also ok to live in...but I understand it could be a bit more out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    I think Charlestown area in Finglas is prob the best for you. Its still near Ballymun area which you were talking about. You have the Shopping centre and the buses, I think 104 go there and onto IKEA?? And maybe the 83?? And the 2 of them go over to southside if you ever need to visit friends again. Its at the M50 Junction 5 exit. Its basically the other side of IKEA, but far enough away from Balbutcher Lane.

    It would also be serviced by European people...as anytime im in Dunnes theres a huge Polish Food section and I dont hear much English. Also Lidl and Aldi are next to it as well. And you have 24 hour Tesco's at Clearwater N2 serviced by the same buses. I can tell you the bus 104 is really quick into city centre and its in within 10 to 15 mins


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    I dont know where in Swords you work...but Swords is also ok to live in...but I understand it could be a bit more out.

    Ideally, I would love to live in Swords, cheaper better quality accomodation, quiet but still near things.

    But its a problem for my partner with the buses as they are not that frequent and he still has to get a 2nd bus once he gets to the city centre.

    I like the Finglas/Glasnevin area too but the places we can afford look drab and dated and the ones that have what we are looking for are too expensive for our budget. Looking ideally at a budget of 650-750 as my partner was let go a few months ago and has only been able to get a few hours a week (not even every week, agency work), so I pay the rent and he manages the bills when he can.

    Would love to know would anyone know which part of Ballymun is decent?

    Never even imagined living there before but the apartments look decent and are a good price.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Monife wrote: »
    Ideally, I would love to live in Swords, cheaper better quality accomodation, quiet but still near things.

    But its a problem for my partner with the buses as they are not that frequent and he still has to get a 2nd bus once he gets to the city centre.

    I like the Finglas/Glasnevin area too but the places we can afford look drab and dated and the ones that have what we are looking for are too expensive for our budget. Looking ideally at a budget of 650-750 as my partner was let go a few months ago and has only been able to get a few hours a week (not even every week, agency work), so I pay the rent and he manages the bills when he can.

    Would love to know would anyone know which part of Ballymun is decent?

    Never even imagined living there before but the apartments look decent and are a good price.
    Id steer well clear. The area is well dodge anywhere off the main road through it. If you are looking in that area, stay the city side of DCU imo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    I would also agree with the above poster and I am from Finglas near by.

    I think Charlestown Place is a good alternative

    http://www.charlestowncentre.ie/

    Here are the homes:
    http://www.charlestownhomes.ie/

    There is no nice area in Ballymun!!! Northwood as I mentioned before would be ok, in what is old Santry Woods or City side of Glasnevin Ave...near DCU (Thats it)

    Ive grown up in Finglas East for 22 years of my life and all my family still live there. So I know what im talking about.

    Look, realistic, I think if you are willing to accept a few things and not fussed by a few teenagers hanging around the shops. You will be grand and will not have problems. If thats whats in your budget I think you will be fine. If its a matter that you dont have a choice. If your happy enough to live there, fair play to you. I would not suggest it to anyone, but you seem up for moving there. Ballymun was created as a place for low cost living and in the 60s the government moved scores of families out there to the ugly flats. They were so ugly, they knocked them down to regenerate the area. The people who lived in the flats moved into these developments. If you dont mind it, and willing to tollerate it, then you will be fine. I still think its far safer then alot of places in big cities like London or Paris. I personally think there are similar alternatives near by. But ive given you all the advice I know.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    Yes there is! Santry Cross is grand. Honestly, and I'm not from the area.

    Look for The Claremont - http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=977332

    The Hampton - http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=905735

    The Landey - http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=979231

    Stay away from the Maiseton and the Turnpike.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 810 ✭✭✭Laisurg


    Well it depends which part of course, some are alright some are actually pretty good and other parts are hell on earth, stay away from the parts near finglas i lived in finglas for 3 years and i will NEVER go back i didn't even live in the worst part, the closer it is in ballymun to dcu the better it is generally, as for racism, you should be alright in an apartment block area santry aint too bad, theres generally just little knacker teenagers around the place, i would say its better than ballymun, then again it depends on which part, i never went too far into santry but the area around the omni centre seems pretty decent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Laisurg wrote: »
    Well it depends which part of course, some are alright some are actually pretty good and other parts are hell on earth, stay away from the parts near finglas i lived in finglas for 3 years and i will NEVER go back i didn't even live in the worst part, the closer it is in ballymun to dcu the better it is generally, as for racism, you should be alright in an apartment block area santry aint too bad, theres generally just little knacker teenagers around the place, i would say its better than ballymun, then again it depends on which part, i never went too far into santry but the area around the omni centre seems pretty decent.

    Im from Finglas East and its grand. Ballymun is far worse then Finglas. Ballymun was literally just Social Housing. Finglas East has lots of private house built in the 30s. If your talking about Balbutcher Lane in Ballymun, yes this is well dodge...but then IMO its all very dodge. As it was just to replace Ballymun Flats and even people in North Inner city Dublin flats would not have moved out to Ballymun flats


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Yes there is! Santry Cross is grand. Honestly, and I'm not from the area.

    Look for The Claremont - http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=977332

    The Hampton - http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=905735

    The Landey - http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=979231

    Stay away from the Maiseton and the Turnpike.

    This is a silly name "Santry Cross", its basically Ballymun Village


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Going with silly names...if you can wait a week or 2 i can imagine with the Bailout that the rent prices will come down to more your budget. Lets face it, the rent prices we see today are little reflection as to what has happened over the past few days!!!

    this place looks nice and like i said before the Shopping Centre is really nice and not dodgy

    http://www.myhome.ie/lettings/brochure/charlestown-place-finglas-dublin/391605


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    Hi OP,

    if you take a wander around ballymun, you can see straight away which are the nicer areas - its pretty obvious.

    I know a lot of people working in Swords and living in Santry Wood, so have a look around there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    this place looks nice and like i said before the Shopping Centre is really nice and not dodgy

    http://www.myhome.ie/lettings/brochure/charlestown-place-finglas-dublin/391605

    This is the kinda place I would be looking for, but would defo not pay 800 for a 1 bed. I'm looking at max 650/700 for a 1 bed and hoping for 750 for a 2 bed.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    Going with silly names...if you can wait a week or 2 i can imagine with the Bailout that the rent prices will come down to more your budget. Lets face it, the rent prices we see today are little reflection as to what has happened over the past few days!!!

    this place looks nice and like i said before the Shopping Centre is really nice and not dodgy

    http://www.myhome.ie/lettings/brochure/charlestown-place-finglas-dublin/391605

    No offence but you dont live in the country, the shopping centre is dodgy as hell plus he works in Swords which would mean two buses to work and having to rely on the number 17 bus which is a crap service.

    the OP never asked about Finglas he asked about Ballymun


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Monife wrote: »
    This is the kinda place I would be looking for, but would defo not pay 800 for a 1 bed. I'm looking at max 650/700 for a 1 bed and hoping for 750 for a 2 bed.

    Well can you hold out a few weeks?? Im certain loads of people are in the same boat and when the Budget is passed alot of people will have to leave Ireland which will free up alot more places to rent and therefore decrease the prices of rent even more.

    There has to be alot of situations now where there is just 1 income paying towards rent!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    irishbird wrote: »
    No offence but you dont live in the country, the shopping centre is dodgy as hell plus he works in Swords which would mean two buses to work and having to rely on the number 17 bus which is a crap service.

    the OP never asked about Finglas he asked about Ballymun

    Haha...well Im on a European exchange, which means the EU pay for my flights back to Ireland. So im actually in Finglas every 2 weeks!! Charlestown SC is not dodgy and I am in the SC every other week shopping in Dunnes Stores, Boots, Heatons.

    He or she doesnt have to get 2 buses. They have a car. Which will be easy access onto the M50 one or 2 stops. You can also go via the back roads. Charlestown is literally about 5 minute drive from the area they mentioned and therefore will not take much longer.

    Its the partner which needs to get over to the southside and there are 2 buses which go to Southside from Charlestown SC.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    Well can you hold out a few weeks?? Im certain loads of people are in the same boat and when the Budget is passed alot of people will have to leave Ireland which will free up alot more places to rent and therefore decrease the prices of rent even more.

    There has to be alot of situations now where there is just 1 income paying towards rent!!

    Yeah we can wait a bit, I was just being organised. Our current lease runs out 29 December. So we have more than month, but I want to start viewing places possibly at the end of the 1st week of December or the 2nd week (want to be completely thorough as my last 2 places looked great and then lots of things were niggling after living there for a while).
    Also will have to be weekend or evening viewings which can be awkward.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    I am in the SC every other week shopping in Dunnes Stores, Boots, Heatons.

    During the day - its not a nice place at night


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Sorry its the 140 bus which goes from IKEA down N2 and to Leeson St. 83 goes Charlestown/ Harristown to Kimmage via Rathmines and Rathgar Rd....so maybe its an option by time late December comes I think prices will have changed. Or at least offer thats how much you would pay!!! I can see lots more people leaving the country...so it will be a renters market still


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    irishbird wrote: »
    Hi OP,

    if you take a wander around ballymun, you can see straight away which are the nicer areas - its pretty obvious.

    I know a lot of people working in Swords and living in Santry Wood, so have a look around there.

    Santry Wood is completely private development and therefore really out of OPs budget. I agree its nicer. But basically OP is suggesting living in the cheapest appartments which were originally for ex Ballymun Flats people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    irishbird wrote: »
    During the day - its not a nice place at night

    Its fine. I live around the corner from it. I used to study in DCU and went to the Gym in Swords, I know from getting the 17A everyday that the areas around Ballymun Village were dodgy.

    In comparison Charlestown is alot safer. Being an attractive young female, ive never had any problems walking around there at night and my school friends live there. Ive had far more problems walking around the streets of Bordeaux or Cambridge at night.

    Sure most of that Shopping Centre Appartments look empty!!! Not many people moved into them, so Im sure there will not be many people to give you hassle. At nighttime there is no reason for people to be around that area, because there are no pubs or nightclubs nearby. And if people are coming back from pubs they are getting taxi's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    magneticimpulse, stop hogging the thread, its unbecoming, just like the name dropping.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    2 men shot dead near the Clearwater in Finglas.

    That has put me right off Finglas!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ck1970


    morning all , and just to put you wide on santry cross apartments , Have lived there for last 12 months and to be honest lease just up and dying to get out its like Afghanistan there at nite and come the weekdends kids hanging around ( and totally agree with poster re rubbish outside apts and in stairwellss and and as 4 parking esp the underground car park its a nightmare and entry and exit at your peril there has been several cars broken in 2 recently and 1 burnt out resembling a war zone sometimes , The fire alarms dont seen to work and complex on hamptons side is not very well kept ( other side days hotel much better as per other poster i agree ) litter, kids , drugs , car parking major probs constantly having 2 park on road or elsewhere as spaces always full as work late shift and finish after midnite ,there is security on site i think they are there nite times only, and try there best but as i said at start of post ... Stay Well away ... Im moving to Swords .. :eek:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    ck1970 wrote: »
    morning all , and just to put you wide on santry cross apartments , Have lived there for last 12 months and to be honest lease just up and dying to get out its like Afghanistan there at nite and come the weekdends kids hanging around ( and totally agree with poster re rubbish outside apts and in stairwellss and and as 4 parking esp the underground car park its a nightmare and entry and exit at your peril there has been several cars broken in 2 recently and 1 burnt out resembling a war zone sometimes , The fire alarms dont seen to work and complex on hamptons side is not very well kept ( other side days hotel much better as per other poster i agree ) litter, kids , drugs , car parking major probs constantly having 2 park on road or elsewhere as spaces always full as work late shift and finish after midnite ,there is security on site i think they are there nite times only, and try there best but as i said at start of post ... Stay Well away ... Im moving to Swords .. :eek:

    Hi CK,

    Would you say all the apartments in Santry Cross are nightmare or just the Turnpike, Maieston and Hamptons (or is that all of them - I am clueless)?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2 ck1970


    Hiya Monife , Just to state not all the apts are bad its just seem to be on the linnbhfla / charter/ hamptons side which is wide open have a mate who live on otherside of road much quieter and wish i had shared with them instead aah well ... To sum up i cant wait to get out of here even this am theres kidsn junkies hanging around and would gladly pay an extra few euro to be comfortable and safe elsewhere only a week 2 go before im outa dodge .. there is a phone number for a security co on gate around place if you like i get it for you and pass it on . ck:cool::P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    The apartments beside the hotel are gated and much more secure than the Turnpike/Maiseton/Charter/Linbhla/Hamptons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Monife wrote: »
    2 men shot dead near the Clearwater in Finglas.

    That has put me right off Finglas!!

    Exactly, then why do you want to move to Ballymun??? Ballymun is worse then finglas...you just have to walk around the 2 and see they are equally similar. It also reflects is the price of rent as you have seen...the rent in Ballymun is cheaper then in Finglas. You are paying relative to what really reflects the area. If the appartments are 750 euro which you are looking at, and 1000 euro everywhere else in Dublin...well that really says alot!!! Of course they would charge more if they could get it, but sadly no! Also apparently these gang members rent appartments and guns/drugs etc are sold from "cheap" rent appartments. Do you really want to have neighbours like that? At least in a house you know who is calling to your front door.

    You pay for what you get in life and looking for the cheapest rock bottom rent...usually comes at a price!!

    Also to add Clearwater Tescos is next to Finglas South...that is rough like Ballymun!! Really all of Ballymun is rough (Santry Cross is just a new name to sell Ballymun Village as a nice area...its not...its low income and with that comes problems. Sure there are nice people around there). The gangs are not just isolated to Finglas South...they are everywhere. So just because a "shooting" happened in Finglas South doesnt mean Ballymun Village is Beverly Hills.

    Also the area i mentioned before is nearer to Santry Cross then it is to Tescos in Clearwater


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    I don't know if it is any use to you Monife but how about this?

    http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=973618

    There are a few spots around Drumcondra/Phibsboro that would meet your criteria.
    Easy access for you to Swords.
    Good commuting for the OH on bus routes to southside.
    Well priced and near the city (but not centre).

    Stay away from Finglas/Ballymun if you can.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Zamboni wrote: »
    I don't know if it is any use to you Monife but how about this?

    http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=973618

    There are a few spots around Drumcondra/Phibsboro that would meet your criteria.
    Easy access for you to Swords.
    Good commuting for the OH on bus routes to southside.
    Well priced and near the city (but not centre).

    Stay away from Finglas/Ballymun if you can.

    Like I said before im from Finglas!! Its not all that bad, there are nice places in it. But you have to pay more rent to get a nicer place, or live outside Dublin and get cheaper rent still.

    Sure the gangland people shot were apparently from around North Circular Road in Drumcodra!!! Its like a cancer. Cloniffe Road is not far from some dodgy flats called Ballybough!! Basically you cant win in Dublin. Its a very small city. What could be high end upper class on 1 street is gangland getto around the corner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,014 ✭✭✭Monife


    Zamboni wrote: »
    I don't know if it is any use to you Monife but how about this?

    http://www.daft.ie/searchrental.daft?id=973618

    There are a few spots around Drumcondra/Phibsboro that would meet your criteria.
    Easy access for you to Swords.
    Good commuting for the OH on bus routes to southside.
    Well priced and near the city (but not centre).

    Stay away from Finglas/Ballymun if you can.

    Hi Zamboni,

    Yeah I have seen that place but wanted something a little more modern. I am thinking probably to steer clear of Ballymun altogether (just got fixated on the nice apartments with low rent), but just one last question about Ballymun, does anyone know what the College View apartments are like on Ballymun road?? (If they are nightmare too then I am definitely forgetting about Ballymun.)

    Ideal places for us would be Santry or Drumcondra. Have seen a few nice ones and hoping I can haggle the rent a bit when it comes to viewing.

    Thanks for all the replies guys, much appreciated. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    College View are fine too, as are the apartments up over the Travelodge on the Ballymun Road.

    There's nothing wrong with Ballymun, or Finglas for that matter, I've lived in both and never had any trouble there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,306 ✭✭✭Zamboni


    There's nothing wrong with Ballymun, or Finglas for that matter, I've lived in both and never had any trouble there.

    Look, nobody is here to piss all over Finglas and the Ballymun and there are great people living there but lets not deny that that they have a higher rate of scum than other places.
    I know both places extremely well and I have seen horrifying events with my own eyes in both of them.
    With all other things being equal why anyone would want to live there when they do not have to is beyond me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,952 ✭✭✭magneticimpulse


    Zamboni wrote: »
    Look, nobody is here to piss all over Finglas and the Ballymun and there are great people living there but lets not deny that that they have a higher rate of scum than other places.
    I know both places extremely well and I have seen horrifying events with my own eyes in both of them.
    With all other things being equal why anyone would want to live there when they do not have to is beyond me.

    Unless im blind i dont know...but i would love to represent these area's because it is misrepresented by the NEWS. There are lots of lovely people in these area's. Theres a far amount of scum all over Ireland and not only scum, but just plan stuck up people. Id rather the down to earth nice people in these area's any day over the stuck up high maintenance Paris Hilton types you find elsewhere in Dublin.

    Ive lived in the best of places such as San Francisco, Windsor, Cambridge, Cornwall and Bordeaux....and I still love Finglas. I love the people, i love the spirit of people and i god damn have the best neighbours ever!!! For anybody just to "assume" things because of the news is out of their mind.

    Sure bad things happen and sure if you have more money live in Dublin 4. But at the end of the day, life is life, humans are humans and unfortunately a few bad apples from other area's give the places a bad name. Id totally be proud to live in any of these area's over a snobby place anyday in Dublin. Because they are big fish in a small pond.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Monife wrote: »
    Hi Zamboni,

    Yeah I have seen that place but wanted something a little more modern. I am thinking probably to steer clear of Ballymun altogether (just got fixated on the nice apartments with low rent), but just one last question about Ballymun, does anyone know what the College View apartments are like on Ballymun road?? (If they are nightmare too then I am definitely forgetting about Ballymun.)

    Ideal places for us would be Santry or Drumcondra. Have seen a few nice ones and hoping I can haggle the rent a bit when it comes to viewing.

    Thanks for all the replies guys, much appreciated. :)


    I lived in Collegeview for 3 and a half years up to 2008 - the place was fantastic for the first year (working people only and not a quarter full) then became an utter kip.
    Drug addicts in the stairwells, absolutely no security in the building, excrement and vomit on the stairwells, rubbish in the common areas and everyone had access to teh place as the doors were constantly kicked in and vandalised as were the lifts, kids using it as a playground. Cars burnt out and robbed in the underground carpark - and this place was right beside the copshop.

    Unless it has undergone a drastic change in the past two years - keep well away.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,580 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    magneticimpulse banned for one week for hogging thread, even after being warned.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 10,661 ✭✭✭✭John Mason


    OP

    maybe you could have a look at this site, you can see any issue the residence have.

    http://www.neighbours.ie/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,862 ✭✭✭✭January


    irishbird wrote: »
    OP

    maybe you could have a look at this site, you can see any issue the residence have.

    http://www.neighbours.ie/

    Not used in the least by the residents of Santry Cross...

    Listen, I didn't HAVE to live in Ballymun or Finglas, I choose to live there because I liked the apartment/house enough. I never had any problems in the general area of Ballymun nobody ever bothered me when walking through the shopping centre, or down the main street. There was one robbed car in the time I lived in Ballymun and the Gardai caught him within ten minutes.

    It's good for public transport links, close to the airport and the Omni shopping centre. Close to IKEA. The Claremont/The Kilmore/The Goulding are very nice apartments in a gated development. The Turnpike/Maiseton/Charter/Hamptons/Linbhla are a lot less secure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭Scrappychimow


    Unless im blind i dont know...but i would love to represent these area's because it is misrepresented by the NEWS. There are lots of lovely people in these area's. Theres a far amount of scum all over Ireland and not only scum, but just plan stuck up people. Id rather the down to earth nice people in these area's any day over the stuck up high maintenance Paris Hilton types you find elsewhere in Dublin.

    Ive lived in the best of places such as San Francisco, Windsor, Cambridge, Cornwall and Bordeaux....and I still love Finglas. I love the people, i love the spirit of people and i god damn have the best neighbours ever!!! For anybody just to "assume" things because of the news is out of their mind.

    Sure bad things happen and sure if you have more money live in Dublin 4. But at the end of the day, life is life, humans are humans and unfortunately a few bad apples from other area's give the places a bad name. Id totally be proud to live in any of these area's over a snobby place anyday in Dublin. Because they are big fish in a small pond.

    What a load of crap , a few good people and a load of rotten apples more like.


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