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Amn't I?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Today, an American corrected me for saying "Amn't I?", as it is "bad English", apparently.

    I pondered for a second and then told the American to feck off as "amn't" is in common usage in Ireland. Just as "Y'all" and "Ain't" are in use in America. And yes, I have heard this American saying "Y'all" before. Feckin' hypocrite!

    Anyway, I'm right, amn't I? I know it should be "aren't", but from time to time, I say "amn't".
    Does any one here say "amn't"? Maybe I'm just old.
    And FECK the crisis. This is a very important issue!

    I would have told them to feck off - if only for one reason alone.
    They should learn the meaning of english too!

    When they say "Mission accomplished" - it should actually mean it and not just "We are attempting to leave behind a hell of a mess while we scamper home with our tails between our legs!"

    They can't afford to give out about wording at all, at all!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,705 ✭✭✭Johro


    F#ck 'em. They say 'To boldly go..'
    To split infinity and beyond.


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,567 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Today, an American corrected me for saying "Amn't I?", as it is "bad English", apparently.

    I pondered for a second and then told the American to feck off as "amn't" is in common usage in Ireland. Just as "Y'all" and "Ain't" are in use in America. And yes, I have heard this American saying "Y'all" before. Feckin' hypocrite!

    Anyway, I'm right, amn't I? I know it should be "aren't", but from time to time, I say "amn't".

    Does any one here say "amn't"? Maybe I'm just old.

    And FECK the crisis. This is a very important issue!

    I suppose the problem comes, not from the contraction, but from the way "Am not I" is incorrect word order in modern English and is somewhat of an anacronism. "Am I not" is the modern word order so the contraction implies the older word order. I suppose if you put it like this:

    "I do not like cheese" or "I don't like cheese" are both correct word order so there is no problem with the contraction.

    Having said all that, I use "Amn't" in conversation but I would never use it, nor "Am not I" in writing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór


    i use both and an american called me out for using 'amn't i' and i just didn't know what to do.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭Killer Pigeon


    Americans, they always think that they're smarter than everyone else ... and they kinda are.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    Americans, they always think that they're smarter than everyone else ... and they kinda are.
    Aaa no.
    Not any worse, just not any better.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 e2e


    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

    In addition

    As you've seen this is my first post on this forum.
    My English isn't as good as yours but I hope you will get used to it.:)

    Here is my question.

    I've read that "amnae" is equal to "am not" as well.
    Would you explain it for me.
    And gimme an example please!

    Thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,954 ✭✭✭✭Larianne


    That's scottish speak there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 447 ✭✭AntiMatter


    e2e wrote: »
    Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

    In addition

    As you've seen this is my first post on this forum.
    My English isn't as good as yours but I hope you will get used to it.:)

    Here is my question.

    I've read that "amnae" is equal to "am not" as well.
    Would you explain it for me.
    And gimme an example please!

    Thanks

    I think it's more Scottish than Irish.

    Merry Christmas and welcome to Boards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,713 ✭✭✭✭Novella


    I have never in my life said "amn't I". I think it sounds ridiculous, sorry!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,397 ✭✭✭✭FreudianSlippers


    Novella wrote: »
    I have never in my life said "amn't I". I think it sounds ridiculous, sorry!
    Agreed, it's a stupid thing to say.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    Americans also say "I could care less" rather than saying "I couldn't care less"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 515 ✭✭✭Cormac2791


    amn't i!! =]


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,671 ✭✭✭BraziliaNZ


    My Canadian ex-wife used to give me grief over "amn't", hehe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,726 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    BraziliaNZ wrote: »
    My Canadian ex-wife used to give me grief over "amn't", hehe

    Overreacting a bit, but she did need to be put in her place. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,560 ✭✭✭✭dsmythy


    I say the guys who started to say come instead of cometh got some stick back in the way for not speaking right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 699 ✭✭✭ashyle


    The Master wrote: »
    An American correcting bad English?

    1) Ask him to say Soldering and Aluminium out loud
    2) Laugh
    3) Profit*




    *There may be no profit

    Americans say aluminum correctly :S http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminum#Etymology


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,057 ✭✭✭Krusader


    Speak in your own dialect, 'cause all the kids nowadays are using American phrases from watching too much Nickelodeon
    Keep Hiberno-English alive!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 332 ✭✭Bogsnorkler


    Crosáidí wrote: »
    Speak in your own dialect, 'cause all the kids nowadays are using American phrases from watching too much Nickelodeon
    Keep Hiberno-English alive!!

    I says ya, chalk it down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10 e2e


    What about an't instead of amn't?:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 121 ✭✭PanicStations




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,720 ✭✭✭Sir Arthur Daley


    amnt this an old thread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,479 ✭✭✭Hootanany


    Today, an American corrected me for saying "Amn't I?", as it is "bad English", apparently.

    I pondered for a second and then told the American to feck off as "amn't" is in common usage in Ireland. Just as "Y'all" and "Ain't" are in use in America. And yes, I have heard this American saying "Y'all" before. Feckin' hypocrite!

    Anyway, I'm right, amn't I? I know it should be "aren't", but from time to time, I say "amn't".

    Does any one here say "amn't"? Maybe I'm just old.

    And FECK the crisis. This is a very important issue!


    Nice punctuation


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,887 ✭✭✭JuliusCaesar


    Oh for heaven's sake.

    Amn't I = Am not I = Am I not - derives from "I am"/ "I am not"

    Amn't I alive and kicking? = Am not I alive and kicking = Am I not alive and kicking?




    Aren't I = Are not I = Are I not - derives fro "I are" WHA'????
    Of course amn't I is more correct, but the dialectical use of 'aren't I' in English as spoken in England has taken over. But we're still right!

    (or should I say, "We am still right")


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    I have a friend (in his 50's) that is a talker, I always laugh when he tells English people that Hiberno English is a more correct form of English than modern British English. He maintains that Hiberno English is a more true and unpolluted form of English and he's always so convincing that any English person he tells this to ends up agreeing with him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭Precious flower


    Ugh if there is one word I depise it's that! It sounds ugly and it's wrong! Thankfully, my parents had the sense to move to England, so I learned to speak correctly! *Smug Face*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 680 ✭✭✭MS.ing


    innit

    "I was just in the shop innit"

    :confused:

    people are weird innit

    its like some random (illiterate version of speach init) decided to randomly use a word init, at the end of a sentance...kind of like a tic


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 680 ✭✭✭MS.ing


    kind of

    sort of

    the list goes on. but communication is communication, as long as people understand wha chu mean then thats all that matters....................


    init


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,274 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Fcuk! That Yank has little to worry about.

    You're right there, boss! You'd swear he never heard a Mick talk before


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,660 ✭✭✭COYVB


    The Master wrote: »
    An American correcting bad English?

    1) Ask him to say Soldering and Aluminium out loud
    2) Laugh
    3) Profit*




    *There may be no profit

    If you ask an American to say aluminium out loud they'll say aluminium

    However the word they use for aluminium is aluminum. it's not a mispronunciation, it's a different word


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