Protest outside dep of finance tommorow

GarlicBread

Joe higgins is organizing a protest outside the dep of finance tommorow, im sketchy on facts and im just getting the word out. If your irish you should be there, full ****ing stop. I dont think i really need to articulate why its happening or what the aim is and any dickheads who come on here giving out about protesters should.............well, i dont wanna be banned so i wont say, but you get my drift.

BlaasForRafa

GarlicBread wrote: »

Joe higgins is organizing a protest outside the dep of finance tommorow, im sketchy on facts and im just getting the word out. If your irish you should be there, full ****ing stop. I dont think i really need to articulate why its happening or what the aim is and any dickheads who come on here giving out about protesters should.............well, i dont wanna be banned so i wont say, but you get my drift.

Hould yer whining and lay off with the patriotic crap as well.

How about answering a couple of simple questions.

Will Eirigi be there?

Will the Socialist Workers Party be there?

GarlicBread

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

Hould yer whining and lay off with the patriotic crap as well.

How about answering a couple of simple questions.

Will Eirigi be there?

Will the Socialist Workers Party be there?

As far as i know joe higgins is not a member of either of those two groups, hes a member of the socialist party. The point of your question?

stepbar

GarlicBread wrote: »

Joe higgins is organizing a protest outside the dep of finance tommorow, im sketchy on facts and im just getting the word out. If your irish you should be there, full ****ing stop. I dont think i really need to articulate why its happening or what the aim is and any dickheads who come on here giving out about protesters should.............well, i dont wanna be banned so i wont say, but you get my drift.

Afraid I got to go to work tomorrow.... No doubt his cohort of crusties will turn up... Christ even Sinn Fein might show... And do what? Neither you or the socialist ideology you support has any ideas about how we get out of this mess bar give out about what "entitlements" are going to be cut.

BlaasForRafa

GarlicBread wrote: »

As far as i know joe higgins is not a member of either of those two groups, hes a member of the socialist party. The point of your question?

I didn't ask whether Joe Higgins was a member of those groups, I asked whether they will be there and I note that you dodged the question.

A protest that includes extreme socialists will not attract a broad spectrum of the populace.

yoshytoshy

Some of us have to work ,full stop.

GarlicBread

stepbar wrote: »

Christ even Sinn Fein might show

Jesus, your right, imagine what would happen if we let sinn fein run the economy.......................

Nozebleed

the people of this country are so uneducated when it comes to politics. its hard to believe. if you had half a brain...you would be going to protest outside the dept of finance tomorrow. regardless of who's or what is going to be there.

ThisRegard

If my Irish what ?

yoshytoshy

Nozebleed wrote: »

the people of this country are so uneducated when it comes to politics. its hard to believe. if you had half a brain...you would be going to protest outside the dept of finance tomorrow. regardless of who's or what is going to be there.

So people with half brains will be there ,are you sure it's not a zombie gathering ?

Nozebleed

yoshytoshy wrote: »

So people with half brains will be there ,are you sure it's not a zombie gathering ?

yeah they're in the dept of finance! ahh..you know what i mean. we all should be on the streets. were just too ****ing stupid.

Dirk Gently

GarlicBread wrote: »

As far as i know joe higgins is not a member of either of those two groups, hes a member of the socialist party. The point of your question?

slightly pedantry but there was a recent left alliance agreed among some of the socialist groups which includes the socialist party and people before profit. people before profit are the SWP so if this is a united left alliance protest then the swp will be there (they'd be there anyway though no matter who organised it).

Any that's irrelevant, if you feel the need to protest then go, if you dont want to protest then dont go. If people want to protest but stay away because a handful of SWP will be there then they've basically surrendered their right to protest and handed their right over to the SWP instead.

stepbar

GarlicBread wrote: »

Jesus, your right, imagine what would happen if we let sinn fein run the economy.......................

Or SWP / Joe Higgins / Eirigi / Labour (shock horror)

Truth is socialism or any part there of will NOT get us out of this mess.

GarlicBread

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

I didn't ask whether Joe Higgins was a member of those groups, I asked whether they will be there and I note that you dodged the question.

A protest that includes extreme socialists will not attract a broad spectrum of the populace.

I have no idea who is gonna turn other than Joe himself, whos an mep i might add.

I have no idea about the other two groups you mentioned, they are very welcome to turn if they want along with the rest of the country. Its a very sad tactic trying to polarize people into not going "because the boogy man from the left is gonna be there and im so afraid of been seen standing next to him".

yoshytoshy

Nozebleed wrote: »

yeah they're in the dept of finance! ahh..you know what i mean. we all should be on the streets. were just too ****ing stupid.

Doing a dance on TV isn't my thing to be honest ,I'd have more chance of winning the X-factor than a protest making any difference.
We need money ,even the socialist party needs money. You can't keep your family warm by rubbing your hands together.

BlaasForRafa

GarlicBread wrote: »

Jesus, your right, imagine what would happen if we let sinn fein run the economy.......................

I can imagine.....something like 1930's era soviet union comes to mind.

Nozebleed

us Irish cant think for ourselves you see..we need to be told what to do.

Black Swan

GarlicBread wrote: »

Joe higgins is organizing a protest outside the dep of finance tommorow, im sketchy on facts and im just getting the word out.

Are these the missing details, including the link?

Picket outside Department of Finance at EU / IMF talks
When: 10.30am TOMORROW (Thursday)
Where: Department of Finance, Upper Merrion Street [Merrion Square]

More details link: http://www.joehiggins.eu/2010/11/picket-outside-department-of-finance-eu-imf-talks/

BlaasForRafa

GarlicBread wrote: »

I have no idea who is gonna turn other than Joe himself, whos an mep i might add.

I have no idea about the other two groups you mentioned, they are very welcome to turn if they want along with the rest of the country. Its a very sad tactic trying to polarize people into not going "because the boogy man from the left is gonna be there and im so afraid of been seen standing next to him".

The extreme left have zero answers, just a load of hot air. Protest for the sake of protest is all they're good for since they don't actually have any practical solutions to the problems the country is in. Like another poster said, I have a job to be going to tomorrow.

GarlicBread

clown bag wrote: »

slightly pedantry but there was a recent left alliance agreed among some of the socialist groups which includes the socialist party and people before profit. people before profit are the SWP so if this is a united left alliance protest then the swp will be there (they'd be there anyway though no matter who organised it).

Any that's irrelevant, if you feel the need to protest then go, if you dont want to protest then dont go. If people want to protest but stay away because a handful of SWP will be there then they've basically surrendered their right to protest and handed their right over to the SWP instead.

Well said.

stepbar

Nozebleed wrote: »

us Irish cant think for ourselves you see..we need to be told what to do.

Do you have any concrete proposals in light of what is currently happening?

GarlicBread

Blue_Lagoon wrote: »

Are these the missing details, including the link?

Picket outside Department of Finance at EU / IMF talks
When: 10.30am TOMORROW (Thursday)
Where: Department of Finance, Upper Merrion Street [Merrion Square]

More details link: http://www.joehiggins.eu/2010/11/picket-outside-department-of-finance-eu-imf-talks/

Cheers, i just heard it on radio so was getting the word out.

skearon

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

The extreme left have zero answers, just a load of hot air. Protest for the sake of protest is all they're good for since they don't actually have any practical solutions to the problems the country is in. Like another poster said, I have a job to be going to tomorrow.

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery

brianthelion

I am afraid the barn door is closed and that horse has already gone maybe you should go to Brussels

Nozebleed

stepbar wrote: »

Do you have any concrete proposals in light of what is currently happening?

:rolleyes:

Stato x

BlaasForRafa wrote: »

The extreme left have zero answers, just a load of hot air. Protest for the sake of protest is all they're good for since they don't actually have any practical solutions to the problems the country is in. Like another poster said, I have a job to be going to tomorrow.

How ignorant!!!!

So people are protesting for fun or what???
Everyone has practical views and soloutions if u are willing to listen and not put them in a box on the left,right or wherever.

Whats your plan?? Vote for the same clowns who got us in this mess or the other side who let it happen?

Ur lucky to have a job as Im sure u know.
Protests show the people are unhappy as is the mood of a lot of people.

So if u dont think its needed then u must think the country is being run well.
And Im pretty sure thats not the case.

GarlicBread

skearon wrote: »

Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance....................the equal sharing of misery

That my friend, is exactly where we are as country right now. Excellently articulated, i couldnt have done it better my self.

Fo Real

Ahh Joe Higgins. He always provided a bit of comic relief in the Dáil with his nonsensical ramblings. Remind me how may TDs the socialist party currently has in our national parliament?

Let's not forget that he brought back the Nigerian "student" Olukunle Eluhanla after he had been deported. Higgins has no respect for the law and I can only imagine how many non-EU nationals he would flood the country with if he had his way. He is a Trotskyite communist proponent of a failed ideology.

In the words of Bertie Ahern "He will not pull people back into the failed old policies he dreamed up in south Kerry when he was a young fellow. Now go away."

GarlicBread

Fo Real wrote: »

Let's not forget that he brought back the Nigerian "student" Olukunle Eluhanla after he had been deported.

Awwww, the guy has a conscience, hes a disgrace to his country isnt he. Theres so much bull**** around here im gonna need a JCB shovel it up.

GarlicBread

Joseph... wrote: »

1 more thing....we have to look at the french...wenevr regulations or cuts are forced upon them they act...we on the other hand accept...is it all that bad???

Im afraid it is all that bad and this is precisely why. If we didnt sit on our asses and do nothing for so long over the last two years we wouldnt be in even a fraction of the scandal that exists now.

stepbar

Nozebleed wrote: »

:rolleyes:

Thought not...

Fo Real

GarlicBread wrote: »

Awwww, the guy has a conscience, hes a disgrace to his country isnt he. Theres so much bull**** around here im gonna need a JCB shovel it up.

I think you're missing the point: That student had no right to be here. He was an illegal immigrant. I don't wish to sidetrack this thread anymore so if you can't get your head around this simple fact we can discuss it in another thread or via PM.

Also there is a long thread on "why it's in your interest NOT to protest at this time" currently in this forum. Perhaps you should skim some of it. Running riot and shouting socialist slogans while offering NO solutions isn't going to fix anything. Rather it gives foreign investors a very bad image of our country.

stepbar

GarlicBread wrote: »

Im afraid it is all that bad and this is precisely why. If we didnt sit on our asses and do nothing for so long over the last two years we wouldnt be in even a fraction of the scandal that exists now.

Sorry.... If we hadn't went off and guaranteed the entire financial system we wouldn't be in half the mess we're in. Anglo should have been let go to hell.

Nozebleed

stepbar wrote: »

Do you have any concrete proposals in light of what is currently happening?

how many times a day do you ask this retarded question? pathetic..my friend..truely pathetic.

GarlicBread

Fo Real wrote: »

Running riot and shouting socialist slogans while offering NO solutions isn't going to fix anything. Rather it gives foreign investors a very bad image of our country.

:pac: Your cracking me up, plz stop, plz. We couldnt look any worse, not in a million years.

stepbar

Nozebleed wrote: »

how many times a day do you ask this retarded question? pathetic..my friend..truely pathetic.

Pathetic! Lol

Try living in the real world will you for a moment... Or are you totally obvlious to what is happening at the moment?

Truth is all your cohorts do is protest. I wouldn't mind so much if you guys had anything to offer but the reality is that you don't.

stepbar

GarlicBread wrote: »

:pac: Your cracking me up, plz stop, plz. We couldnt look any worse, not in a million years.

Sorry but what is your solution? Do you have any?

Nozebleed

stepbar wrote: »

Sorry but what is your solution? Do you have any?

thats a good question..let me think. :rolleyes:

Fo Real

GarlicBread wrote: »

:pac: Your cracking me up, plz stop, plz. We couldnt look any worse, not in a million years.

You know what? Go ahead and stand out in the cold with the crusties tomorrow. Why should I care? I hope it lashes rain and you are rewarded with the swift blow of a Garda's baton like some of those moronic students.

You don't even have a united message. You don't know what you're protesting for. You're like Ian Paisley - no, no, no - without offering any solutions.

I predict Palestinian flags galore and a bunch of failed, unemeployed middle aged men with beards.

stepbar

Nozebleed wrote: »

thats a good question..let me think. :rolleyes:

It's a ****ing brilliant question and the lack of an answer only reinforces my beliefs.

Mr.Micro

stepbar wrote: »

Sorry.... If we hadn't went off and guaranteed the entire financial system we wouldn't be in half the mess we're in. Anglo should have been let go to hell.

That is so true 35 billion or so maybe more. Saving it was not in the nations interest but IMO for FF and the golden few, probably FF stalwarts.

GarlicBread

Fo Real wrote: »

You know what? Go ahead and stand out in the cold with the crusties tomorrow. Why should I care? I hope it lashes rain and you are rewarded with the swift blow of a Garda's baton like some of those moronic students.

You don't even have a united message. You don't know what you're protesting for. You're like Ian Paisley - no, no, no - without offering any solutions.

I predict Palestinian flags galore and a bunch of failed, unemeployed middle aged men with beards.

If you really wanted, you could use google and find all the coherence and alternatives you want at the click of a button, was even a link posted here 20mins ago by somone. This is not a policy thread. Youd be more at home on the anti protest thread so go away over there cheers.

Enough of beard hating already, theres much more serious things going on imo.

stepbar

Fo Real wrote: »

You know what? Go ahead and stand out in the cold with the crusties tomorrow. Why should I care? I hope it lashes rain and you are rewarded with the swift blow of a Garda's baton like some of those moronic students.

You don't even have a united message. You don't know what you're protesting for. You're like Ian Paisley - no, no, no - without offering any solutions.

I predict Palestinian flags galore and a bunch of failed, unemeployed middle aged men with beards.

Maybe SIPTU might have a stand outside selling tea and coffee.... The beards would love that...

Scofflaw

Nozebleed wrote: »

how many times a day do you ask this retarded question? pathetic..my friend..truely pathetic.

And that's enough fighting and personalising the discussion from Nozebleed. Take a week off.

moderately,
Scofflaw

stepbar

GarlicBread wrote: »

If you really wanted, you could use google and find all the coherence and alternatives you want at the click of a button, was even a link posted here 20mins ago by somone. This is not a policy thread. Youd be more at home on the anti protest thread so go away over there cheers.

Enough of beard hating already, theres much more serious things going on imo.

I'll ask again..., what are the proposals on the table?

stepbar

Scofflaw wrote: »

And that's enough fighting and personalising the discussion from Nozebleed. Take a week off.

moderately,
Scofflaw

Thanks Scoff but I don't think he / she should be banned. But I'll leave it up to you in your capacity as a mod.

GarlicBread

stepbar wrote: »

I'll ask again..., what are the proposals on the table?

You should read what you quote, this is not a policy thread. Your obivously not going tommorow, why do you have an agenda of trying to divert people from going. That is the real question.

GarlicBread

Scofflaw wrote: »

And that's enough fighting and personalising the discussion from Nozebleed. Take a week off.

moderately,
Scofflaw

Did you just ban a guy for a week because he pointed out the truth?

wonderfulname

GarlicBread wrote: »

im sketchy on facts and im just getting the word out. If your irish you should be there, full ****ing stop.

So you don't know what's going on but because I'm Irish I have to go? What utter bull.

Not a hope in hell that I, or anyone else of sound mind and judgement will be caught dead at whatever the hell it turns out to be.

wonderfulname

GarlicBread wrote: »

Did you just ban a guy for a week because he pointed out the truth?

Careful now, save it for your riot protest.

stepbar

GarlicBread wrote: »

You should read what you quote, this is not a policy thread. Your obivously not going tommorow, why do you have an agenda of trying to divert people from going. That is the real question.

You have offered NO reason why anyone should support your protest. None. And truth be told you don't have any policies to offer. Because if you did you'd have same up in a flash. As I've said earlier, I'll be at work paying for the crusties to protest. That in itself is the bigger scandal. Knock yourself out... I wait in baited breath...