Standing For the National Anthem

cyrusdvirus

This is an aside from the Things you Refuse to do thread.

I have to say I'm appalled at the amount of people who refuse to stand for the National Anthem.

Honestly, what are your reasons for not standing? Is it cos you think you are quirky and cool and just want to be different?? I just don't understand it. One poster said it's cos they have no interest in the army So the National Anthem is more to do with the army, than the nation?? Here's a clue. NATIONal Anthem.....

starbelgrade

I like to breakdance to Amhrán na bhFiann.

Bookworm85

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg9n3ypN9i8

enda1

gatecrash wrote: »

This is an aside from the Things you Refuse to do thread.

I have to say I'm appalled at the amount of people who refuse to stand for the National Anthem.

Honestly, what are your reasons for not standing? Is it cos you think you are quirky and cool and just want to be different?? I just don't understand it. One poster said it's cos they have no interest in the army So the National Anthem is more to do with the army, than the nation?? Here's a clue. NATIONal Anthem.....

How about that some people don't feel particularly patriotic.
Some have sore legs.
Some are afraid they'll lose their seats in a sly game of musical chairs.
Some are deaf.
Some are not Irish.
Some want to cause disrespect.
and on, and on

Sanjuro

Why should someone stand for the national anthem? It's a piece of music. And not a particularly good one at that. It's not like remaining seated is the same as burning a flag. Something which is also baffling in how it incenses some people. This whole sense of national pride and being beholden to the past is just tedious. Bollocks to standing for a song.

AnonoBoy

Sinne Fianna Fáil, Atá fá gheall ag Éirinn.

Adam

it's too much effort, and i never know where to look...

jimthemental

I was the first to question this and was genuinely surprised to see this attitude.

It honors those who died for our freedom and is even more poignant today as we seem to be relinquishing that freedom due to the shambles that are the government and the banks. I don't know much Irish but you can be sure I know and stand for this song, be it in Croke Park or a nightclub.

Sunnyisland

I stand for the nation anthem as i am proud to be Irish and salute the people who done there best to make this country a better place to live and lest we not forget them and us.

enda1

realies wrote: »

I stand for the nation anthem as i am proud to be Irish and salute the people who done there best to make this country a better place to live and lest we not forget them and us.

did their best

Your salutation is accepted. :cool::P

arybvtcw0eolkf

gatecrash wrote: »

This is an aside from the Things you Refuse to do thread.

I have to say I'm appalled at the amount of people who refuse to stand for the National Anthem.
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Don't mind them, they just say it for the internet.

I seen the thread too, and the one about playing it in nightclubs - BS. I've worked in just about most major nightclubs in Dublin over the last 20 years and I've never heard it played.

In pubs I've only seen it once or twice where people didn't show their respect for the anthem, usually "Here, show a little fvcking respect" gets 'em up off their lazy good for nothing hole.

Like I said, its mostly internet bullsh*t talk out of 'em.

Renn

I'd rather stand for the Deutschlandlied tbh.

cyrusdvirus

How about that some people don't feel particularly patriotic.

If it's a sporting event, then why would you be there supporting your team?

Some have sore legs.

And standing for 3 minutes os gonna knock 3 years off their lives??

Some are afraid they'll lose their seats in a sly game of musical chairs.

In a night out situation it's normally played at the end of the night... Loosing your seat shouldn't really be a problem. At a sporting event, you have an assigned seat.

Some are deaf.

Fair enough.

Some are not Irish.

In a civilised country most people will have the respect to stand for that nations Anthem. I'd stand for GSTQ or Rule Britannia or whatever is the anthem of our neighbours if i was there.

Some want to cause disrespect.

They are the ones i understand least

Adam

realies wrote: »

I stand for the nation anthem as i am proud to be Irish and salute the people who done there best to make this country a better place to live and lest we not forget them and us.

derp?

Renn

In pubs I've only seen it once or twice where people didn't show their respect for the anthem, usually "Here, show a little fvcking respect" gets 'em up off their lazy good for nothing hole.

F*ck, that's the most cringeworthy thing I've read in AH in a while.

Adam

people who do stand dont bother me. people who get high and mighty about it can fcuk off.

R P McMurphy

In some pubs you don't have the option as could get a slap/lots of abuse if you don't. Is just easier to go with the flow.

Professional Griefer

Sanjuro wrote: »

Why should someone stand for the national anthem? It's a piece of music. And not a particularly good one at that. It's not like remaining seated is the same as burning a flag. Something which is also baffling in how it incenses some people. This whole sense of national pride and being beholden to the past is just tedious. Bollocks to standing for a song.

I actually like our national anthem, and don't like any others, except the French.

Run_to_da_hills

There is some excuse for people that don't stand for Amhran Na Bfiann, ie, they may be crippled, but there is absolutly no excuse for those that keep on talking and drinking.

If I was in the UK I would shut up and respect their anthem likewise foreigners in our country should respect ours.

I was at a function in Tipperary where the DJ was requested to play the anthem 3 times in a row until people finally got the message to STFU. Proper order.

Jesus Wept

It's comical that it is most often played in pubs and nightclubs at the end of the night when people have a feed of drink in them, swaying happily from side to side with a moronic look of vacant pride on their faces.

Sometimes there'll be a few over enthusiastic Wolfe Tones fans who get verbally aggressive and many more dirty looks from other old people.

One messy drunk old coot was actually fist pumping along to the national anthem such was her enthusiasm/inebriation.

Sanjuro

Ix Deadmau5 wrote: »

I actually like our national anthem, and don't like any others, except the French.

The last two lines of the national anthem are pretty good. But the rest of it is pretty dull. It should start off more bombastically.

Guill

Op, CAn you explain why i should stand to this music?

arybvtcw0eolkf

This occasion still makes my hair stand on edge with pride..

Adam

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

There is some excuse for people that don't stand for Amhran Na Bfiann, ie, they may be crippled, but there is absolutly no excuse for those that keep on talking and drinking.

If I was in the UK I would shut up and respect their anthem likewise foreigners in our country should respect ours.

I was at a function in Tipperary where the DJ was requested to play the anthem 3 times in a row until people finally got the message to STFU. Proper order.

i'd have kept quiet the first time, and left the second time.

sensibleken

The only time I come accross it is at ****e weddings or some such crap night out where the DJ will play rock the boat or the macarena. I don't do them either.

What has the war of independance got to do with a night like that?

Guill

Sanjuro wrote: »

The last two lines of the national anthem are pretty good. But the rest of it is pretty dull. It should start off more bombastically.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W5pq4bIzIw

Like this?

enda1

I think its more disrespectful TO our National Anthem to play it in a pub than any level of disrespect shown by not standing when its played in a pub.

Not standing is usually more a sign of the idiocy and disrespect shown by the DJ, management and participants of the pub who see fit to play the anthem in honour of their nights boozing.

Run_to_da_hills

Adam wrote: »

i'd have kept quiet the first time, and left the second time.

It was actually stopped half way through and then started from the beginning again.

Fighting Irish

gatecrash wrote: »

This is an aside from the Things you Refuse to do thread.

I have to say I'm appalled at the amount of people who refuse to stand for the National Anthem.

Honestly, what are your reasons for not standing? Is it cos you think you are quirky and cool and just want to be different?? I just don't understand it. One poster said it's cos they have no interest in the army So the National Anthem is more to do with the army, than the nation?? Here's a clue. NATIONal Anthem.....

I usually always stand but in all honesty, i couldn't give a fook about the national anthem

jimthemental

gatecrash wrote: »

In a civilised country most people will have the respect to stand for that nations Anthem. I'd stand for GSTQ or Rule Britannia or whatever is the anthem of our neighbours if i was there.

Hold your horses there a second lad! I wouldn't go talking over it but by Jesus I would not stand for it unless it was at a match or something, and even then I'm not sure if I could. That goes for any country's anthem not just the British. I'd show respectful silence but I wouldn't stand.

AnonoBoy

The National Anthem should be played at appropriate times, not at the end of a night in a pub where half the people are hammered off their faces.

Where's the respect in that?

Fighting Irish

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

There is some excuse for people that don't stand for Amhran Na Bfiann, ie, they may be crippled, but there is absolutly no excuse for those that keep on talking and drinking.

If I was in the UK I would shut up and respect their anthem likewise foreigners in our country should respect ours.

I was at a function in Tipperary where the DJ was requested to play the anthem 3 times in a row until people finally got the message to STFU. Proper order.

Some people realise they only have one life and standing and being quiet for one song isn't going to affect their lives in any good way

Duggy747

City folk don't hear the National Anthem at the end of the night.

*chews on potato*

In towns around the country it's fairly common for (country) bands to finish their set with the anthem in pubs and DJs to play the song in the nite-clubs............if anything it's a good reminder to get the last pint in :pac:

As for standing for it, I fail to see what's the problem. If you don't want to stand then don't, don't be an arse and criticise those who want to.

People whinging about modern Ireland and all that.....

Balfie

Ronan Acidic Quota wrote: »

This occasion still makes my hair stand on edge with pride..

Have to fully agree. John Hayes shows his pride like no other.

Me personally, I stand with pride no matter where I may be when the national anthem comes on.

Renn

If you don't want to stand then don't, don't be an arse and criticise those who want to.

Did you read the opening post?

Renn

Pride for what though? What did you do?

thecool

In towns around the country it's fairly common for (country) bands to finish their set with the anthem in pubs

CRYSTAL SWING

sensibleken

Play ghost town by the specials. that'll get em standing

prinz

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

It was actually stopped half way through and then started from the beginning again.

That's just as disrespectful to the anthem as not standing or being quiet enough. :rolleyes:

I'll stand and pay due respect if the song is being treated with respect, i.e. in an official capacity, NOT by a band/DJ in a pub/niteclub. If I'm in the pub watching sport or some such and the anthem is on I would keep silent. That said I'll do the same for any other anthems too. The worst thing is a certain set of muppets who will willfully attempt to disrupt anthems of other countries, particularly our neighbours to the east,.... and then bitch about tourists not paying enough respect to ours.

Jagera

I was in an Irish pub in London (on a stag do) when the Irish Anthem broke out.

Some stood, some didn't, some cared, some didn't, but arguments went on for ages. It was crap.

Pace2008

What kind of ****hole club plays the national anthem at the end of the night?

Adam

Pace2008 wrote: »

What kind of ****hole club plays the national anthem at the end of the night?

cavan nightclubs

Run_to_da_hills

Pace2008 wrote: »

What kind of ****hole club plays the national anthem at the end of the night?

Plenty of places outside Dublin.

Most motorcycle rallies around the country also have it played.

Pace2008

Oh, and remember guys - being a patriot isn't about working hard for your country and paying your taxes.

It's about having an Éire tattoo on your arm, possessing a 26 + 6 = 1 bumper sticker, and standing for the national anthem at the end of a drinking session.

Run_to_da_hills

prinz wrote: »

That's just as disrespectful to the anthem as not standing or being quiet enough. :rolleyes:

.

It was the only way to get the attention of the crowd, I couldn't see anything wrong with this as long as a full uninterupted version was played at the end.

krudler

meh, couldnt care less tbh, I'll stand at an event or just keep quiet if its playing at a wedding (of course any dj who plays it is a crap dj, end of story)

arybvtcw0eolkf

Renn wrote: »

Pride for what though? What did you do?

Well I can only speak for myself.

I've served under our flag at home and abroad, I've worn it on my shoulder with pride in myself, my country and the reputation we've brought with us, and the excellent work we've done.

I've saluted comrades whose coffins were draped in our flag.

Pride in my anthem, country, flag & comrades goes hand in hand.

twinQuins

As I don't endorse nationalism - and don't really understand it - I don't care about showing respect for, what to me, is just a song; It has no meaning to me.

My heart is not stirred whenever I hear it, no more so than most other songs. I don't begrudge others standing for it but, by the same token, I would also expect the same courtesy shown to me.

Renn

Well no, I don't have any pride in what other people have done. I acknowledge it certainly, but pride is something totally different. Fwiw, I've a pretty big interest in Irish history, read up on it quite a bit, have visited numerous historic sites, but that's as far as it goes tbh. I don't even know the words to the national anthem so it's probably best I steer well clear of it all.

Can you not respect other people's decisions in a pub?

Canis Lupus

I'd (not happily) die for Ireland if it was required (I imagine we're safe enough from invasion so it's likely I'll never have to worry about it) but I can't be arsed to stand for that song.

Adam

Ronan Acidic Quota wrote: »

Well I can only speak for myself.

I've served under our flag at home and abroad, I've worn it on my shoulder with pride in myself, my country and the reputation we've brought with us, and the excellent work we've done.

I've saluted comrades whose coffins were draped in our flag.

Pride in my anthem, country, flag & comrades goes hand in hand.

and whether i do or do not stand for a song does not change my respect for such actions, however if you told me off for not standing in a pub i'd think less of you as a person.