Average Hand

Pal

Texas Holdem

whats the average hand in 7 cards ?

Dean.Tamkin

If they are all clubs then you have a straight

Jul3s

Pal wrote: »

Texas Holdem

whats the average hand in 7 cards ?

The average hand is Q7 offsuit.

premierstone

Jul3s wrote: »

The average hand is Q7 offsuit.

Thought it was Q8 myself, but anyway I think the OP is asking what is the average made hand after the river.

Dean.Tamkin

premierstone wrote: »

Thought it was Q8 myself, but anyway I think the OP is asking what is the average made hand after the river.

Ace high would be kinda average

premierstone

Dean.Tamkin wrote: »

Ace high would be kinda average

There are far too many variables to make any kind of calculation I would imagine

AstonMartin

2pair

TerryTibbs!

A busted draw :rolleyes:

DJKendo

Pocket Rockets

zuroph

four of a pair i think.

Mellor

boards should really just cull this place all together,
lol at too many variables

Guffy

the average hand to win in poker is two pair.

what the average hand in general would be, i don't know

Pal

Sorry to resurrect from a year ago, but i still search for the answer.

You deal 7 cards a million times to 10 players. (2 holes each , a flop, a turn and a river. They all stay in)

What is the average hand ?

Am I being clear with the question ?

Thanks. Somebody must know. My theories are all over the place at the tables. I'm an average sort of guy you see.
Tend to stay in the game when I am better than average (whatever that might be)

The Irish Riddler

Whatever it is your trying to ask your not asking it properly. Whats the average hand if the board is dealt and everyone see what their best 5 card hand is? I don't know but more importantly its irrevelant to how the game plays so won't make you a better player. You are not going to call bets on the flop and turn to hit a miracle river card and expect to be a profitable player.


The average winning hand in texas holdem is 2 pair.

The average starting pocket cards are either Q7 or Q8.

Pal

Thanks.

You answered what I wanted.

So I play to flop with Q8 or better. I stay after flop with 2 pair.
Testing theory tonight

zuroph

Pal wrote: »

Thanks.

You answered what I wanted.

So I play to flop with Q8 or better. I stay after flop with 2 pair.
Testing theory tonight

Its a losing theory.

Pal

zuroph wrote: »

Its a losing theory.

I just won a tournament. Honest.

Jul3s

Pal wrote: »

Thanks.

You answered what I wanted.

So I play to flop with Q8 or better. I stay after flop with 2 pair.
Testing theory tonight

I gave you that answer in the 3rd post!

Pal wrote: »

I just won a tournament. Honest.

Prove it or it didn't happen.
Also even a blind squirrel finds the nuts every now and then.

restingpilgrim

Pal wrote: »

Thanks.

You answered what I wanted.

So I play to flop with Q8 or better. I stay after flop with 2 pair.
Testing theory tonight

Your dealt pocket 2's flop is KKA turn Q river 10 are you still in with your two pair because if you are can you tell me where you play please.

Pal

restingpilgrim wrote: »

Your dealt pocket 2's flop is KKA turn Q river 10 are you still in with your two pair because if you are can you tell me where you play please.

I would, in your example, still have a better than average hand which in all probability would lose.

However, on a head to head, a better than average hand has a better than 50/50 chance to win.

My game plan is having definitive fold and hold levels. Then sticking to it. (However with an extreme example like yours, I guess I would be tempted to fold)

zuroph

Pal wrote: »

I would, in your example, still have a better than average hand which in all probability would lose.

However, on a head to head, a better than average hand has a better than 50/50 chance to win.

My game plan is having definitive fold and hold levels. Then sticking to it. (However with an extreme example like yours, I guess I would be tempted to fold)

no no no.

hand dealt, yes, but hands brought to the flop are much higher. You're totally ignoring that the other players would have to bring the hand to the flop too, unless they all played by your flawed system, you're behind more times than ahead.

but please carry on. and post your usernames.

Mellor

Pal wrote: »

I would, in your example, still have a better than average hand which in all probability would lose.

However, on a head to head, a better than average hand has a better than 50/50 chance to win.

My game plan is having definitive fold and hold levels. Then sticking to it. (However with an extreme example like yours, I guess I would be tempted to fold)

That's fine, as long as you are palying a Stevie Wonder

Hank Scorpio

games are dead

Jul3s

Pal wrote: »

I would, in your example, still have a better than average hand which in all probability would lose.

However, on a head to head, a better than average hand has a better than 50/50 chance to win.

My game plan is having definitive fold and hold levels. Then sticking to it. (However with an extreme example like yours, I guess I would be tempted to fold)

nuxxx wrote: »

games are dead

People who think even remotely like above are living proof the game is not dead and never will be, as there is one born every minute.
Long live the game!.

Hank Scorpio

Jul3s wrote: »

People who think even remotely like above are living proof the game is not dead and never will be, as there is one born every minute.
Long live the game!.

That's what I meant :P

Mellor

There's no money in poker, Everybodys solid

Pal

Another advantage of playing the better than average hand is that it takes the guesswork out of calling bluffers.

No more agonising in having to try and read their intention.
If you're holding better than average, they get called.

zuroph

ah see, you pushed too hard here, ignoring the posts as if they never happened to spout more nonsense. Trolling. WP

Pal

zuroph wrote: »

ah see, you pushed too hard here, ignoring the posts as if they never happened to spout more nonsense. Trolling. WP

It was a genuine comment about the bluffers for what its worth. Anyways, my question is answered and thanks to all. Time to move on. Ciao.

shangri la

I watched poker on de telly. 1 pair usually wins. Just flop a pair jacks or better and keep calling their bets. Good luck. Was the competition you won the sunday million on pokerstars?

AngryBollix

Jul3s wrote: »

The average hand is Q7 offsuit.

Isnt that the average in heads up play?

Jul3s

AngryBollix wrote: »

Isnt that the average in heads up play?

Yea I should have said the average starting hand and afaik that doesn't change from full ring to heads up, although in heads up play the value of Q high is more than in a full ring game.