strange creatures

wolflark

in june 1990 i saw the strangest thing ever....
i wasn't drunk or on drugs or insane.... two "creatures ?" on a rooftop in a Dublin housing estate.... thats the short version of the story....
anybody anything similar ? or maybe i am insane !

a-k-47

could you at least describe what they looked like

Riamfada

perhaps the long version of the story

Ziycon

wolflark wrote: »

in june 1990 i saw the strangest thing ever....
i wasn't drunk or on drugs or insane.... two "creatures ?" on a rooftop in a Dublin housing estate.... thats the short version of the story....
anybody anything similar ? or maybe i am insane !

I'd be interested to hear the full story, what age where you, where there any other witness?

Rasmus

Interested too, would be cool if the OP signs in again.

wolflark

thanks for replies.... i was nineteen at the time.... unfortunatly no other witnesses.... it was about 2.30 in the morning.... they were both about 5 foot tall, completly covered in black hair. they were skinny like gibbons, but their heads were more like dogs, with long snouts.... their eyes were the size of eggs and completly white.... they came down from the rooftop and stood about 8 feet from me on top of a garage.... i ran across the field to my house, and for a short while they followed, making noises much like a young girl laughing.... i actually soiled myself as i ran.... the next day i went back over with my dad and my dog.... my dog sniffed around but would not go any closer to where i had saw them....

i dont fully expect to be believed, but it certainly happened....
WOLFLARK....

Riamfada

Bit signsy?

Rasmus

Thanks for posting. Is there definitely no way that these were humans in costume?

wolflark

i have often thought about the "humans in costumes" thingy, but if you had of seen the way they climbed and jumped from the roof, it was a bit impossible.... dont get me wrong, i'm not suggesting aliens, but defo not any animal i've ever seen before....

Rasmus

I was just googling the description you outlined. Seems there's something similar in British and Irish folklore about 'fairy dogs'. Strangely enough, when I was a kid one of my fears was tall standing up-right dogs in humanoid form.

wolflark

cheers rasmus.... must google "fairy dogs" never heard of that....
it was a strange experience alright, but one i'm kinda glad to have had....
and if i'm not believed, i dont really mind, because i know it happened....
glad i put in out there on boards anyway.... we all need to keep an open mind....

Ziycon

Possible a sighting of the infamous Chupacabra!?

faceman

Or the "mothmen"

Btw, thanks OP. I read this thread last night before going to sleep and dreamt that someone dug nails into my back while screaming like a weird child. I woke up still feeling that sensation! :eek: :pac:

loldog

Wow, freaky story. :eek:

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Major Lovechild

It this something like what you saw?

Riamfada

Unless there were some Barbary Apes running around the midlands ..... then again it may have been some locals.

Rasmus

OP, could you elaborate on the way they moved - you mentioned that they jumped on the roof I think, unlike any human or animal... that's very interesting.

Riamfada

On seconds thoughts perhaps it was a TROLL

Phoenix Park

I sincerely hope i never come across that thing in the photo one night :eek:

Rasmus

Phoenix Park wrote: »

I sincerely hope i never come across that thing in the photo one night :eek:

A gibbon?

Phoenix Park

Eh..yep, i guess so. Happy to reiterate i do not want to meet a gibbon on my way home some night Especially with eyes like those

Rasmus

Especially two of them, laughing like girls : O

What about this OP?

Riamfada

Seriously, Im as skeptical as the next man but when we start using "flying brown bears in a Dublin housing estate" as a more rational excuse than ghosts I think the skeptics are a bit more outlandish than the paranormal claimants. The same goes for escaped Barbary Apes (not gibbons) in the Dublin burbs.

Rasmus

Grimes wrote: »

Seriously, Im as skeptical as the next man but when we start using "flying brown bears in a Dublin housing estate" as a more rational excuse than ghosts I think the skeptics are a bit more outlandish than the paranormal claimants. The same goes for escaped Barbary Apes (not gibbons) in the Dublin burbs.

The pic above was to see how similar what the OP saw was to a bear. I have been searching the internet for creatures of his description and can't find anything. I don't think the creatures were ghost related, but indeed scarier and creepier!

wolflark

thanks for all replies....
in regards to bears, gibbons, baboons or barb apes....
i am aware of these animals and trust me guys, none of the above.
this things were very thin and really agile, certainly like the gibbons i've seen in zoos.... but the head was completely different to gibbons....
their necks were also quite long (no ET jokes please)
anyway you cant fake **** in your pants, ask my loving mother who had to wash them !
i'm still genuine interested in any opinions....
wrecking my head for the past 20 years....
Wolflark

faceman

I was talking to someone about this story last night as part of a wider story. She proceeded to tell me a story about what she called "treehead"

Similar type of story except she was indoors at the time and treehead was at her window on the top floor of her house. Happened on regular occurrence. Although when she recalled the story it was difficult to ascertain if it was of the result of sleep paralysis.

GhostInTheRuins

Cú Sídhe?

Not saying I believe your story or anything, but it's interesting none the less.

Riamfada

faceman wrote: »

I was talking to someone about this story last night as part of a wider story. She proceeded to tell me a story about what she called "treehead"

Similar type of story except she was indoors at the time and treehead was at her window on the top floor of her house. Happened on regular occurrence. Although when she recalled the story it was difficult to ascertain if it was of the result of sleep paralysis.

Any more infor on this,what age is the person now,where abouts (county. rural/urban) did they see this?

Twin-go

OP, you say they were like dogs but sung like little girls?

They could have been the mysterious Wolflark.

faceman

Grimes wrote: »

Any more infor on this,what age is the person now,where abouts (county. rural/urban) did they see this?

Shes 30 now. It hasnt happen in 12 years. She said it first happened when she was 8, then 13, then 18. She recorded the dates of each occasion and it always happened on 5 year intervals, to the day.

Basically, she recalls when it happened first time, she heard a tapping on her bedroom window at night (top floor of a 2 storey house) and opening the curtains and seeing the face. She described the face as being disfigured but looking "tree like". She said the most striking features being the eyes. Deep eye sockets staring at her. And tapping at the glass. It repeated itself when she was 13 and 18, all events followed the same pattern.

It happened in Tramore, Waterford where she grew up, it hasnt happned since moving to Dublin, although she says she suffers with recurring weekly nightmares about a treelike claw being in her bedroom, hovering above her. She often jumps out of bed with fright, and after a few moments the feeling dissapates. The nightmare and feeling of a prescence in her room does sound like sleep paralysis.

However its difficult to ascertain if the events when she was younger was sleep paralysis, because as i said above, she recalls opening the curtains and was awake at the time.

I have family in Tramore myself and the town is rife with stories, hauntings. I have often heard tale of a horseman who roams the darker streets and have had family members experience it too.

Rasmus

Just putting this out there:
In regard to both experiences mentioned in the thread, it's possible that certain things we see are not necessarily what we think we see.

It's been speculated (especially with accounts of supposed alien abduction) that the brain rationalizes things it sees if the subject is unrecognisable, or doesn't make sense.
For instance, some people have reported seeing a barking dog at night, when it turns out that they were actually 'abducted' and may have seen an alien, according to their account. .
It's a coping mechanism when we experience fear or confusion. This kind of experience has also been reported during particularly traumatic events.
Nothing to cite, sorry, just referring to articles, programmes and books I've read in the past.

Now, I can't imagine how this would have happened with the weird creatures on the roof, or the tree creature, as why would these people see such odd things if they were trying to rationalize?

It's just something to think about, that maybe what they saw is something related to this phenomenon, and that what was witnessed could even have been something weirder?

On a paranormal note, the tree creature would probably be considered to be an 'Elemental', an earth-bound spirit/creature otherwise known as a goblin. I've read a bit about them on paranormal sites.

Ziycon

As Rasmus described the brain will block out or hide very traumatic events to protect the person and over time it will slowly move the memory of the event from the unconscious mind to the conscious mind to allow the person to gradually accept what happened. This is a defense mechanism that the brain uses to protect the person.

Unfortunately due to the fallibility of the human memory, as time goes by the memory can morph and change and its very hard to say what bits are part of the original memory and what has been added over time to help explain certain aspects of the memory.

The best thing to do is to write done everything you can remember as soon as you get a chance after the incident or when witnessing something to have an accurate as possible account of what happened.

wolflark

i forgot to mention.... the following day after the "sighting".... i drew a picture of the "creature".... i'm away for the weekend, but when i get home i"ll scan it and post it up....
wolflark

GodlessM

I've studied cryptozoology quite a bit over the years and have never heard accounts of encounters with Kujo and Treebeard before.

Your encounter would be very easy to explain if the part about them chasing wasn't part of it, but alas the whole thing makes very little sense. I would imagine there is some part of the memory askew, but there's no way to tell, and we do have to accept that there may be a lot out there that we don't know about.

That being said, and coming back to the chasing part of your tale OP, if aggressive unidentified animals were in your area surely someone would have reported sightings and attacks before.

Ziycon

GodlessM wrote: »

That being said, and coming back to the chasing part of your tale OP, if aggressive unidentified animals were in your area surely someone would have reported sightings and attacks before.

Its possible that people in the area know about it but choose not to say anything, sure weren't our parents, family and the neighbors able to keep the secret of Santa etc. from us for all those years!?! If theres a general consensus or reason to not share information among a group of people its possible to keep it under wraps but you will always get a few leaks but nothing that can't be fobbed off.

On the other hand, what I just said could be a load'a, who knows...

fryup

a vivid dream, i reckon that over time you believe really happened

LandoCalrissian

OP any chance of that picture

really curious to see your depiction of the creatures

leddpipe

peoples grip on the workings of the human brain is SHOCKINGLY bad on this thread!:mad:

GodlessM

leddpipe wrote: »

peoples grip on the workings of the human brain is SHOCKINGLY bad on this thread!:mad:

Are you a psychiatrist?

leddpipe

GodlessM wrote: »

Are you a psychiatrist?

No, Ma in Behavioral Science!

Rasmus

leddpipe wrote: »

No, Ma in Behavioral Science!

No-one claims to be an 'expert' besides yourself - so why not blind us with your knowledge of the subject?

leddpipe

Rasmus wrote: »

No-one claims to be an 'expert' besides yourself - so why not blind us with your knowledge of the subject?

when did I claim to be an expert Tonto!I just hate the way people latch on to these bullsh1t pop psychology assertions and blurt them out as fact!
its never even been properly established that repressed memories actually exist, yet for the sake of explaining many things, including traumatic memories they are taken as fact!

fryup

wolflark wrote: »

they were both about 5 foot tall, completly covered in black hair. they were skinny like gibbons, , making noises much like a young girl laughing....
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well, maybe they were gibbons...some people have been known to keep them as pets

and they make noises like a loud laugh

leddpipe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOjqdwlBCc8

lol . little girl

Ziycon

leddpipe wrote: »

when did I claim to be an expert Tonto!I just hate the way people latch on to these bullsh1t pop psychology assertions and blurt them out as fact!
its never even been properly established that repressed memories actually exist, yet for the sake of explaining many things, including traumatic memories they are taken as fact!

I'll be the fist to throw my hands up when I'm wrong. Please do correct me where I'm wrong so I don't go saying a load of crap again, I'd be interested to hear what a person with a background like yourself has to say regarding memories in a situation like this.

I understand about the whole debate about repressed memories that has been going on for years, is there another school of thought on how memories from a traumatic event are handled?

okioffice84

Troll

Rasmus

okioffice84 wrote: »

Troll

Who?

Riamfada

fryup wrote: »

well, maybe they were gibbons

BARBARY FECKIN' APES!!

Turquoise1

I remember hearing a similar story from my other half about two lads who were up the mountains near my hometown, saw a white creature one night with a dog-like face who chased them for a bit. It took them a while to get over it.

A few other fellas got curious and went into the area to investigate and they saw it too, their own dogs chased after it but the dogs never came back. This happened back in the late 80s/ early 90s but I haven't heard about anyone seeing anything up there lately.

Ziycon

Turquoise1 wrote: »

I remember hearing a similar story from my other half about two lads who were up the mountains near my hometown, saw a white creature one night with a dog-like face who chased them for a bit. It took them a while to get over it.

A few other fellas got curious and went into the area to investigate and they saw it too, their own dogs chased after it but the dogs never came back. This happened back in the late 80s/ early 90s but I haven't heard about anyone seeing anything up there lately.

Can you tell us what mountain and the area on the mountains these incidents occurred?

MajorMax

I try to keep an open mind, but there's usually a plausible explanation for everything. When I was 19 I stayed up for 3 days without sleep, seemed like a good idea at the time. At the end I was seeing some freaky stuff. I was in a girls bedroom while she was getting showered and there was a pile of laundry in the corner. I saw an evil little figure glaring at me from the top of this pile, I was so sleep deprived that I was convinced that it was real. But of course it wasn't.